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My Desert Island All Time Top 10 Worst Losses of the Mack Brown Era.


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If you really wanted to mess me up, you should have gotten to me before Rout 66.

This list is arbitrary and I'm sure many will disagree.  I'd love to see ammendments and suggestions, but also stories.  Texas losses are like JFK's death.  I always know where I was.  I'm sure you do to.  Also, for the first half of the Mack Brown era, I was in college (read:  had a drinking problem, particularly on Saturdays).  Any additional details for the late 90's games would be greatly appreciated.  I don't live in Austin anymore, and haven't been to a game in years, so any additional info from people that were at games would be greatly appreciated. 

I think this is probably a better discussion topic than Top 10 Games of the Mack Brown Era was.  That is the nature of Texas fans (Although no video in this one, I wouldn't do that to ya).  Okies, Aggies, and others will call it whining, to be sure.  I call it a palate that is honed to savor every note of sorrow.  So, without further ado, My Desert Island All Time Top 10 Worst Losses of the Mack Brown Era.

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10.  1999 NCST 23, Texas 20

In the 10 spot comes North Carolina State.  And does DeLoss know us or what?  You can actually buy the DVD of this game from Texas Athletics for $50.  I mean, who wouldn't want to watch NCST return a blocked punt 35 yards for the game winning TD with only 3:06 remaining? 

Why it makes the list:  Season opener, still the only one Mack has lost at Texas.  We were ranked 17th, coming off of the high of Ricky's game vs A&M, thrashing Mississippi State in the Cotton, Major back for year two, the #1 recruiting class in the nation, and we lose in AUGUST.

9.  1998 Texas Tech 42, Texas 35

At number 9, we have the first Red Raider appearance on the list.  Riding high after winning 6 straight, Mack's inaugural team headed into the desert.  A shootout ensued.  When the dust cleared, Tech's Ricky Williams outrushed our own Ricky 148-141.  After Texas tied the game with 2:18 to play, Tech drove 82 yards and scored the winning touchdown with :25 left on a 3 yard Rob Peters run.

Why it makes the list:  Winning this game would have set Texas up for a Big 12 South deciding game at home against A&M.  After getting drubbed early in the year by KState and UCLA (both Top 10 teams), Texas had won every game since.  Also set the precedent for subsequent upset losses at Tech in 2002 and 2008 (more on those games later).

8. 2003 Arkansas 38, Texas 28

Matt f-ing Jones.  The future Jags WR torched Texas for 124 on the ground, 139 on the ground in the game that signaled the beginning of the end for Chance Mock.  To me, this will always be "The game that Vince didn't play".  Any criticism of Mack not playing freshmen starts here for me.  Vince's line from the previous week's 66-7 drubbing of New Mexico St. was as follows:  5 car., 61 yds, 2 TD's, 1-1 passing, 60 yds.  And he played not a down against Arkansas.  The back breaker came in the 4th quarter:  on 3rd and 1, from their own 39 Arkansas had a 35-28 lead.  Matt Jones breaks a 60 yard run to the Texas 1 yard line, setting up a FG, and effectively ending the Horns' chances. 

Why it makes the list:  Ranked #6 in the country, Texas looked every bit of it the week before.  UNRANKED Arkansas came into DKRTMS and whipped our ass.  3 fumbles by the Horns = 3 turnovers.  Mack's list of home losses to unranked teams is a short one:  3 games.  Spoiler Alert:  All 3 are on this list.

7. 2000 Stanford 27, Texas 24

A week after losing to SAN JOSE ST., Stanford did the unthinkable, beating the Horns 27-24 on a DeRonnie Pitts touchdown reception with 1:12 to play.  Chris Lewis, Stanford's backup QB (we knocked their starter out in the 1st Quarter), was 12-33, but threw 3 TD's against 0 INT's for the Cardinal.  MBTF doesn't have a recap, but Stanford's site does.

Why it makes the list:  I still don't understand this loss.  This was a Stoopsing of a night road game if ever there was one.  Applewhite struggled and the Texas offense managed only 1 TD through the first 50 minutes of play.  This against a defense that had given up 40 points the previous week to San Jose St.  As a Top 5 team, during the Mack Brown era, there have been a total of 3 loses to unranked teams:  All 3 are on this list.

6. 2002 Texas Tech 42, Texas 38

Texas came into this game ranked 4th in the AP, needing another Oklahoma loss (which would come in Bedlam) after Reggie McNeal went all "only great game of his career" on the Sooners.  At the time, Texas was in the thick of the National Title race (although the title was eventually between undefeated Miami and Ohio State).  Kliff Kingsbury threw for 473 yards and 6 TD's as Tech pulled the upset.  Taurean Henderson scored the go ahead TD with 5:41 to play in the 4th.  On the ensuing drive's first play, Chris Simms threw an INT to Ryan Aycock.  Tech then proceeded to run off the remaining 5 and a half minutes to seal the victory.

Why it makes the list:  Here's a fun little stat during Mack's tenure at Texas:

Mack Brown against unranked conference foes (non-Tech variety):  45-3 or 93.75%

Mack Brown against unranked Tech:  6-2 or 75%

This one hurts because it was the culmination of a disappointing 2002 season.  Pre-season #3. That '02 Team was STACKED.  Talent all over the place.  Roy Williams, Derrick Johnson, Cedric Benson, Nathan Vasher, Cory Redding, and that's only the super duper badasses.  Excepting 2005, this was the most talent on a Texas roster during the Mack Brown era.  And it wasn't a particularly great Tech team either.  They were 7-4 at the time, and one week away from getting shellacked 60-15 @ OU (sound familiar?).  I'm sure that I'm biased because my brother-in-law went to Tech, but damn. 

5. 2007 Kansas State 41, Texas 21

We all knew this team was flawed.  The 2007 Horns showed that during the non-con slate, with games that were entirely too close against Arkansas St. (at least we're not Aggies and pulled out the W), @ Central Florida, and pulling away late against TCU.  We didn't know how flawed until KState came to town.  Everyone was eager to avenge the brutal 2006 loss in Manhattan (more on this later, in case you hadn't figured that out yet) but the Horns trailed 24-14 at the half.  Jamaal Charles pulled Texas to within a FG early in the 3rd, but a Jordy Nelson (shudder and post idea:  all SOB team aka guys who played disproportionately well against Texas.  I've already got the skill positions filled) 89 yard punt return put this one effectively out of reach.

Why it makes the list:  Texas came into the game #7 (although we all knew that was high) against unranked Kansas State.  We had all the motivation in the world to kick the crap out of this team, and laid an egg.  2 special teams TD's allowed.  An INT return for TD.  Add it all up, and it was the largest margin of victory in a home loss during the Mack Brown era.  And this is #5!  Going to need a drink to keep reading, people.

4. (tie) 2006 KState 45, Texas 42 and 2006 A&M 12, Texas 7

I know.  And I agree.  Its a cop-out.  But which one was worse, really?  Losing Colt on the opening drive, or watching his head slosh around against the Agros?  These two games are inseparable in my mind, because they combined to form the 3rd of 4 total losing streaks during the Mack Brown era (curiously, KState is involved in 3 of the 4).  I'll spare you the recap, as you can read PB's recaps of both games here and here.  Especially after the A&M one, PB was bitter.  We all were.  From Greg Davis calling a QB sneak, to Ron Prince channeling 2000 Bob Stoops, to the Limas touchdown that got called back, to Kellen Heard's bitch ass, these two games combined to ruin November of 2006.

Why it makes the list:    Texas went from Title contender to Alamo Bowl in 2 weeks. 

3. 2001 Colorado 39, Texas 37

When Applewhite relieved Chris Simms in the 2nd Quarter and immediately threw a 79 yard TD to BJ Johnson, I thought we were about to witness a fitting end to a great career.  I jumped off of my barstool and started talking shit.  I'll admit it.  Applewhite could make you feel like anything was possible.  But Major came in just a little too late, and a Colorado team that had lost to the Horns earlier in the year 41-7 managed to hang on to win 39-37 behind Chris Brown's 189 yards rushing and 3 TD's.  Simms' numbers read look like a snuff film:  9-17, 130 yds, 3 INT's.  With all that happened around the nation, Texas was effectively playing for a title shot, and was heavily favored to boot.  The only silver lining in this loss was that it, in all likelihood, prevented Texas from running into the 2001 Miami team that violated Nebraska for the national title. 

Why it makes the list:  There was never any doubt about this one making the top 5.  The 2005 Big 12 Title Game beating mitigated the resentment that I felt for Colorado somewhat, but this one still stings.  This game above all others I hold against Chris Simms.  We actually would have been better off if he'd just taken the snap and curled up in the fetal position for a half.  I still say he should have been the game MVP for Colorado.  Yes, its been 8 years and I'm still pissed.  What of it?  This post has, quite frankly, turned me into a diagreable, irrational, and for some reason paranoid person.  I feel like Mel Gibson in Conspiracy Theory.  I'm seeing links between losses where none exist.  Only two more to go...

2. 2008 Texas Tech 39, Texas 33

Michael Crabtree will forever haunt my dreams.  Cost Texas a MNC shot.  One play.  And not just one play.  Any one of several plays, and this one turns out differently.  But instead, we get the iconic game of 2008, a replay that we'll get to see for the rest of our lives, and a now irrelevant 45-35 victory over the Sooners.

Why it makes the list:  Really? 

1. 2000-2004 OU More, Texas Less

I'm not going to give you the scores.  The link is only to the Historical Results page of MBTF.  They're all in there.  Every soul crushing, October deflating, season ending, Big 12 costing loss.  Quentin Griffin.  Roy Williams Superman.  Every bounce (seriously, how many times has OU fumbled and then they recover it for a TD?  Is that just me, because it seems like it happens every damn year) goes the Sooners way.  For 5 long years, we wandered in the wilderness, until a prophet led us out.


 

Why it makes the list:  I combined them all.  I can't say that one hurt worse than the others.  In fact, they all just combined to put the "can't beat OU" monkey on our collective backs for half a decade.  The current "can't win it all without VY" monkey is much more personable.  I guess what I'm trying to say is that the cumulative effect of these consecutive losses was much greater than any individual loss could be.  Many of us questioned if we'd EVER beat OU again.  These losses shaped the national perception of Texas football until VY washed it away in '05.  And that's why they're the worst loss of the Mack Brown era.

 

So...that's it.  I'm going to go cry in the shower now.

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great job

Reminds me of a blog post I made last summer about games I would NEVER want to watch again….

http://bilski2000.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2008-07-07T11%3A29%3A00-07%3A00&max-results=7

My list (prior to last season) included the NC State game, the OU games, the big 12 title game vs. CU, etc. Ugh, just painful to look back on. But, they do make all the victories that much sweeter!

by junglerules on Jul 6, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

“These losses [to OU] shaped the national perception of Texas football until VY washed it away in ’05”—ctex80

Not true, Texas still hasn’t shaken the stigma of the losing streak and Stoops still gets the benefit of the doubt to this day. Whenever people talk OU/Texas, they almost always jump to the 2000-2004 line of thinking where Texas cant beat OU despite the last 4 years.

And because of this I agree the OU losses were the worst, or at least did the most damage to Texas as a program and its perception.

by owenh on Jul 6, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Some good points

Could be argued that it swayed Adrian Peterson in his choice to go to OU, in that he said he went to Oklahoma to win championships….

by junglerules on Jul 6, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely not

We win the MNC in 2006 with AP in our backfield.

Meanwhile, OU would be busy losing their bowl games…oh wait.

by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 6, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY

Though, without him going to OU, we might not have gotten to see them get punked by Boise in the Fiesta Bowl, and I’m not sure life would be as fun without that.

by junglerules on Jul 6, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Losses are often more painful to me

When we lose key players due to injury or otherwise play frighteningly well below our potential to teams we are clearly better than. 2001 Colorado? We killed them in DKR. We were better than them. It took one of the all-time meltdowns in CFB history to give them a chance to win, and they still barely hung on.

2009 Tech? We lost Quan Cosby early and lose Orakpo in the third. We come out absolutely brain dead in the first half. And we STILL almost won. That’s why I believed Tech to be hopelessly overrated. They played the best first half of the Mike Leach era and still almost lost the game. If we played like THAT against a better team, we would have been annihilated.

2002 Tech? Vasher gets hurt and we don’t even have enough DB’s to play in a nickel.

2006 K-State? We easily move down the field until Colt McCoy goes out on a freak injury. All downhill from there. Ugh. We drop several Snead passes, Jamaal and Selvin fumble the ball away (Charles’ one was crucial because we had just blocked a punt and stolen momentum back), and they complete trick plays on us. Great.

Injuries and bad days are part of the game, but sometimes, they just seem to pile up in a perfect storm of crap and bad luck. Honestly, I find it much easier to swallow losses when I feel like we played fairly well and we didn’t suffer major injuries. I despise losing to lesser teams when we come out utterly flat and/or lose key players.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I appreciate the work, but....

Any list that doesn’t have the 2001 Big 12 Championship game at #1 is flawed, either in methodology or execution.

That game has everything you could possibly ask for in a “worst loss” conversation:
(1) Big stage an huge stakes? Check. Not only was it for a conference championship, but thanks to Florida’s loss just minutes before this game started, it was for a trip to the freaking Rose Bowl to play Miami for the national championship.
(2) Against a huge underdog? Check. Colorado had come on strong towards the end of the year, but this was a team that had lost to Colorado State and already lost to Texas earlier in the season 41-7. FORTY-ONE to SEVEN.
(3) Sheer and utter agony rather than mere melancholy? Check. Only one of those OU games was agonizing at the end (2001….the shitty Roy Williams jumping over poor Brett Robin). Sitting through a 65-13 loss (and having newspaper reports taking pictures of you because you’re in the first row and look depressed as all hell) sucks pretty hard, but not as bad as watching Teddy f’ing Lehman score that TD. And that 2001 Colorado game had BOTH melancholy and agony. Melancholy in the first half as the Buffs ran out to that huge lead, and agony at the end when, after the amazing comeback, Geiggar was called for roughing the punter when there was no doubt in the minds of anyone in that stadium that Texas was going to march down and score.
(4) Goat? Um, check. Chris Simms turned the ball over 4 times (in the first half!) before being replaced by Applewhite. Worst choke under pressure in a career filled with chokes under pressure for Chris Simms.

I mean, all that together and this game HAS to be #1. The Tech game this past year had all of the same stuff (though there wasn’t really a goat), except after that loss, Texas still could have easily won the Big 12 championship and made the national championship game. Sure, it turns out in the end that it did knock us out, but we didn’t know that at the time. The 2001 CU game on its own cost us a conference championship and a shot at a national championship, all at the hands of Chris Simms’ ineptitude and a team that we had beaten earlier in the year 41-7. It’s #1, and it’s not even freaking close. It haunts me, 8 years later.

by billyzane on Jul 6, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll stand by '08 Tech being worse than '01 Colorado

Because of the aftermath. I don’t think that anyone would argue that ‘01 Texas wins a title against Miami. I sure as hell wouldn’t. That Miami team was unholy. Do you really think that ‘01 Texas team, that barely beat Washington, could have hung with Miami? I think we’d have gotten demolished.

On the other hand, I think ’08 Texas could have hung with Florida, and possessed the recipe to beat the Gators (a kick ass pass rush). Basically, I think ’08 Tech cost us more. Did we know that at the time? Not necessarily, and so I can see saying “right after the game, I felt worse about ’01 Colorado than ’08 Tech”. But in the grand scheme ’08 Tech was worse.

And lumping all 5 OU games together? Well as edsp said, that was a cop out.

by ctex80 on Jul 6, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather take my chances in NC game...

… than beat Washington in the Holiday Bowl by 50 points.

by Horn Brain on Jul 6, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may all be true...

But the Tech game didn’t knock us out of anything on its own. It, combined with our crappy non-con schedule combined with a few lucky breaks that went OU’s way in the last couple of weeks kept us out of the Big 12 championship and the NC game.

In 2001, absolutely nothing kept us from winning the Big 12 Championship and going to the national championship game except losing to Colorado. The game ITSELF, standing on its own, did more damage to Texas than Tech did last year.

And beyond any of that, the 2001 Texas team was a far better team than last year’s squad. That 2001 team was absolutely stacked (though of course, not as heavily as Miami—no one has even been as stacked as that Miami team—but then again, 2005 Texas wasn’t as stacked as 2005 USC either…) and was, in my mind, the most talented team Mack Brown has ever fielded and the second best team, too. Last year’s season was a glorious overachievement. When an overachieving team loses, it just doesn’t suck as much as when a supremely talented and experienced team will play for the national championship if they win 1 game, then crash and burn in that game, only to rally and be disappointed at the very end. Last year, after the Fiesta Bowl, there was a sense of “Wow, look at all we did with this collection of role players and freshmen!” In 2001, after the Holiday Bowl (there’s another one for you…the 2001 loss dropped Texas from the national championship game to the freaking HOLIDAY BOWL), we were happy for Major, but more than anything, just bitter at how the season had turned out.

by billyzane on Jul 6, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I just had so much animosity towards Simms that I

take it out on that ’01 team, which did have an incredible amount of talent. Maybe I think ’08 was worse because I liked the ’08 team better. I was heartbroken for the team when we lost to Tech. I was pissed at Chris Simms when we lost to Colorado.

by ctex80 on Jul 6, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also,

the fact that we’ll have to see that Crabtree play for the rest of eternity. Every countdown, every highlight package, every time we play Tech, there will be Crabtree and :01 on the clock. We immortalized him, that game, and that moment.

by ctex80 on Jul 6, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but

Blake Gideon’s dropped pick will haunt me forever, no matter how much I like the guy. We could have had one of the all-time magical seasons in Texas history. In fact, I have argued that if our ‘08 team went undefeated and won the national title, while they couldn’t be considered as good as the ’05 team, they would be celebrated for doing something more impressive considering their preseason expectations. All it took was one easy interception. And it fell to the ground.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 6, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I know that

But that game, along with a myriad of stupid factors, kept us from that chance. I agree with ctex here that we would have had a much better chance taking down Florida this year than Miami in 2001. When I watched the Florida-OU game, I thought to myself constantly, “This is bullcrap. We could have taken it to both of these teams.” When I watched Miami slap around Nebraska, I thought, “This is crap. We could have made this a better game.” Big difference. But 2001 did have more overall talent, so who knows.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 6, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff, ctex80

Funny how so many of these losses (the details, anyway) had gotten lost in the mental recesses.

Kind of a copout to lump the five to OU and the two at the end of 2006, effectively putting 15 games on the list, but who’s counting? Only point I’d make is that losing to a team obviously more talented (OU 2-3 times in that five-season stretch) hardly compares to K-State ’06 or Colorado ’01. In my view, if somebody is clearly better and you win, revel in it. If somebody is clearly better and you play hard and still lose, give the other guys credit and move on.

by edsp on Jul 6, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to read

Wow, was that tough to read all the way through. I kept moving my mouse down slowly trying to guess the next loss and it was like getting slapped up against the head as the memory of ALL of those losses is etched in my mind.

Thanks (I think?) for the work that went into this. All i know is that 12 -7 loss in DKR was about as hard to stomach of a loss as i have witnessed.

by texascfo on Jul 6, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

2004, 12-0 vs. OU

Such a painful freakin game. All they needed was two scores. Just two. I was there, I actually teared up at the end out of frustration. Ug, I hate even thinking about that game.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jul 6, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't somebody drop a TD pass that game?

Man, I was so mad. Derrick Johnson played like a warrior that game, and our offense couldn’t put a dang score up.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 6, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and GD?

I’ve always thought Davis gets way too much hate, but when he and Mack admitted sometime afterwards they had put a tight leash on Vince Young for that game, I wanted to find both of them and slap them silly. What the heck kind of logic is that? You don’t hold back against the #2 team in the country in the biggest game of the season. Oh my gosh. Unfathomable. They did the same with Colt against Ohio State in ’06, but at least he was just a redshirt freshman on his second start. This was freaking Vince Young.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 6, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen and Amen

And this game is one of the reasons I’ve never liked the man. And never gotten over not liking him.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jul 7, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who? Mack or Greg?

They have trouble remembering that game because their MNC ring and trophy has disrupted their inner ear.

Seriously, Mack & Greg (especially) are open to criticism. But, to hate either one of UT’s coaches is ridiculous if you claim to be a fan. And, if it weren’t for a 57-yard Nebraska field goal and Bob Stoop’s friends & family’s voting shenanigans, we’re in the title game yet again.

by Eskimohorn on Jul 9, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still shake my head at that

To think that a fluke, 57 yard FG to decide a game between two mediocre teams decided the participants of the national title game is just absurd. But it’s college football. Absurdity reigns, I guess.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 9, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg

Never said I hate him. Said I don’t like him. And yes, it’s possible to not like GD’s play-calling and QB coaching, but still be a fan. On the personal side, he seems like a rather nice man.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jul 9, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can remember where i was for every one of these games...

and i can also remember not crying over any of them. I’d keep that one to myself. But hey, i guess we’re pretty anonymous here.

by rchorns on Jul 6, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a girl

It’s one of the few things I can get away with. : )

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jul 7, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...

In that case never mind!

by rchorns on Jul 7, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2004 OU

Especially when you look back and see that BOTH A&M and Okie St put 35 on OU and then USC put 55 on them in NC game. Ugly!

by texascfo on Jul 6, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

point taken

Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.

by zamm on Jul 7, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post

Heartbreakers, every one.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jul 7, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would argue

that y’all didn’t exorcise the demons of the 5 year losing streak to OU until you beat them this past year. 2005? Who cares, that ‘05 team was Stoops’ worst team at OU, and that is including the ’99 squad.

Beating a higher ranked OU team tat was favored over you made a statement, and made the Sooner fans feel the agony y’all felt for those 5 years. JMO.

by Beergut on Jul 9, 2009 5:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Owenh made a similar point early in the thread.

I overstated in the original post. ’05 was still cathartic for the program and the fan base though.

by ctex80 on Jul 9, 2009 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as you sometimes annoy me ...

… I must say I’m impressed by anybody properly using the word “exorcise.” Cheers to Beergut!

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jul 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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