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Longhorns State of the Union -- Follow-Up Thoughts

"So far, I've been bouncing around a lot. It just depends on the team we play to see how I'm going to be used that game. I guess it's good if (Coach Muschamp) is making me do it. I'll tell you what; you have to be in shape for it. You're constantly moving. It's a lot thrown at you, and a lot of different things you have to know, because of where you have to move and how soon you have to get there. It's kind of hard to pick up, but I think I'm getting it."

-- Linebacker/defensive end Sergio Kindle about his new defensive role.

Horns_bullet_mediumYes, opposing offenses will need that GPS. The Kindle quote above gives a snapshot into how Muschamp will use his versatile defender this year, often moving him all the way across the defensive line before the snap. IT's Ross Lucksinger provides a snapshot ($) of what that looks like:

For example, Texas will line up in its traditional 4-3 set then have Kindle suddenly step backwards, switching the front seven to a 3-4 (DT Lamarr Houston will typically slide over to DE in this situation). Kindle will then run down the line, jumping into several gaps, before finally ending up on the far side from where he started and ready to blitz from the outside.

While the Longhorns probably won't reveal much of Kindle bouncing around the formation pre-snap in the early games against Louisiana-Monroe, Wyoming, and UTEP, expect a heavy dose of it against Oklahoma in an attempt to confuse the inexperienced Sooner line. And believe that Kindle will cause confusion in the protection schemes of opponents as he feints into different gaps before the snap.

Against teams like Missouri and Texas Tech that use wide line splits, expect Kindle to be even more effective, as those offenses provide more open lanes to get to the quarterback. In fact, Missouri had so much trouble with Brian Orakpo changing his alignment pre-snap that they tigthened up their splits relatively early in the game, without Orakpo even moving into a stand-up role like Kindle. Forcing those two teams to tighten their splits helps the edge rushers, as they don't have as much space to cover to get to the quarterback -- one of the major reasons for even using the splits at all.

If last season's Sergio Kindle was like a slightly dulled pocket knife with only one working blade -- Go get the quarterback! -- this year's Kindle will be a premium Swiss Army knife with a variety of blades that can deploy at any time. With the basics out of the way and after two off-seasons of work with his defense, expect Muschamp to really begin using his shiny new Predator knife to help offset the lack of depth on the defensive line's interior and slice through opponents. He's about to help you break that bank, Sergio.

Star-divide

Horns_bullet_mediumDual separation. The opening quote for the last "State of the Union" yesterday came from Mack Brown talking about how the first week of pratice is long enough to create some separation among the tightly-contested positions. Perhaps no position is more tightly contested and only defensive tackle surrounded by more questions than the running back position. After the first week of pratice, Brown indicated that Vondrell McGee and Fozzy Whittaker are currently the co-starters at the position, with Cody Johnson trailing them and remaining at the short-yardage back, but interestingly, also as a fullback.

So it seems the "Johnson-as-fullback" experiment begins anew. Recall that part of the reason for Johnson struggling with his weight is that the coaches wanted to try him at fullback going into fall pratice last year and asked him to put on a bunch. After a running back failed to emerge, they scrapped the plan. It's back, apparently, in some form or other. Though there isn't anything to suggest that Johnson is set to displace Antwan Cobb as the top fullback on the depth chart, Johnson did block well when the Longhorns ran quarterback draws for Colt McCoy last season and Johnson does have 30 pounds on the somewhat-undersized Cobb.

After falling behind in the summer after his hamstring injury in the spring, using Johnson as a short-yardage specliast and fourth-quarter bludgeon still makes the most sense. He doesn't have much nearly as much as experience as Cobb at the fullback position and doesn't have Cobb's pass-catching ability (a skill that lead to some discussions of Cobb staying in on third downs). Don't hold your breath waiting to see Johnson at fullback.

Unlike Johnson, both McGee and Whittaker worked hard during the summer and succeeded in becoming stronger, more well-rounded backs. The elephant in the room, however, is that neither of them are complete backs yet. Whittaker still doesn't have the size to be a strong pass protector for Colt McCoy, while McGee is still working to understand his protection responsbility. McGee doesn't catch the ball as well out of the backfield, while Whittaker probably won't ever have the durability to be a workhorse back.

What the Longhorns have are two players who can hopefully compliment each other and the offense well. That's the hope, anyway. McGee looks noticeably quicker this year now fully recovered from the knee injury that slowed him down last season. As much as his struggles in pass protection kept him off the field, having his knee twisted underneath him early in the FAU game probably had as much to do with his season being disrailed as anything. If McGee can become more comfortable running the outside zone plays, he could earn himself 10-15 carries every game.

McGee could also be the best option at running back when the Longhorns go under center and hurry up the offense to let him run the ball downfield. Likewise, McGee often played last season when the Longhon offense was inside the 25-yard line, scoring two touchdowns from 14 yards out and one from seven among his four scores. Ostensibly, the short field dictates a quicker passer game by eliminating long-developing routes and, therefore, the necessity of having a back strong in pass protection.

Whittaker provides a much more natural pass-catcher out of the backfield than McGee, while also providing a little more burst and a little more elusiveness. When the Longhorns go want to really spread the field by splitting out five wide receivers, expect Whittaker to replace Ogbonnaya in that role. Hey, you can't have trouble in pass protection when you're split out wide. Whittaker matched up against a linebacker in space is probably a match-up Greg Davis will take advantage of this season. Perhaps against OU and incapable-of-adjustment Brent Venables? The key for Whittaker is of course to remain healthy for the fall, a dicey proposition at this point.

Here's a possible scenario, then: Johson probably stays as the short-yardage back, with McGee working inside the 25 or so, with Whittaker a stronger option with a longer field. However, as Brown emphasized in his press conference the major emphasis is holding onto the football. If either of McGee or Whittaker start putting the ball on the turf, expect a quick hook. Think Rick Barnes after a Varez Ward three-point attempt last season.

Horns_bullet_mediumTanner can't handle Houston. During Thursday night's practice, the defense clearly won the night and a major reason for it was the play of Lamarr Houston. Perhaps feeing comfortable for the first time at his new position, Houston disrupted nearly everything the offense tried by doing his best Roy Miller impression and slicing through the attempted blocks of Charlie Tanner at guard. The fact that he was up against Tanner and Lucksinger's comment about Houston moving down to defensive end indicates that Houston may not see a ton of time at nose tackle this season in an effort to help him avoid double teams.

Thursday night clearly demonstrated his ability when lined up as a three-technique defensive tackle against the opposing guard -- a dangerous player with remarkable quickness for the position. Instead of wasting Houston by asking him to hold ground against double teams -- an ability he hasn't yet shown -- I think Muschamp will work to maximize his skills by leaving him one-on-one against guards or as a defensive end in a 3-4. The other thing to consider is that Roy Miller was able to knife into backfields by slicing through double teams as a nose tackle using his quickness. If Houston can show the ability to do the same thing, he may see some time at the position but the overriding point remains -- the kid is just not a space-eater and asking him to do so wastes his prodigious talent. Leave the space-eating to Ben Alexander

Horns_bullet_mediumSpeaking of Charlie Tanner -- you're on notice, buddy. One night of practice is too small of a sample size to blow this out of proportion, but the play of Tanner against Houston is concerning considering that last year revealed him to be one of the weaker members of the offensive line. David Snow more than ably filled in last year as a true freshman, an extremely difficult task at a position that almost always demands experience and time in the program to develop physically, made even more impressive by the fact that Snow often played the most difficult position on the line -- center.

It's clear that Snow has much higher upside than the elder Tanner. Now that the three terrible linebackers from the dark days are gone, talent and abillty to execute supposedly trump "having bled for the program." Whether an ineffective Charlie Tanner continues to play over David Snow may be one of the biggest tests of that transformation this season. And while I'm at it -- you're on notice too, Chris Hall.

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David Snow more than ably filled in last year as a true freshman, an extremely difficult task at a position that almost always demands experience and time in the program to develop physically, made even more impressive by the fact that Snow often played the most difficult position on the line — center.

The most difficult position on the line is left tackle, where you will face the opposition’s best pass rusher, not center. Center is typically where you put your worst blocker, because the theory is that he can get strongside help from the guard every play.

Re: Kindle moving around

If the example given by Lucksinger is accurate, and texas will be shifting to a 3-4 with a 3-man line, that will actually simplify the blocking scheme. Let’s say Kindle steps back, and is the OLB on the right side of the defense (the offense’s left). The OL will zone to the left, double-teaming both the NT and the RDE, with the left DE facing a single blocker. The OL moves to the second level, and you now have someone to block Kindle, and the two ILBs, while you leave the backside OLB unblocked b/c he is too far away to make the play. The other option is to block the other three LBs, leave Kindle unblocked, and make him the read man for the QB, forcing him to commit and make a decision. Either way, you’ve just made the OL’s job easier.

by Beergut on Aug 18, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes. It probably does make the job easier. If the line has a bunch of veterans on it

With less experienced players, mistakes can happen. Where Sergio is going to end up will be a distraction. All of this may distract the QB.

I don’t expect to see a lot of 3-4 and Sergio bouncing around — it seems to be anti-Mack style — but we can hope.

by edsp on Aug 18, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’m no football guru, and just throwing this out there before I head out for the night, but would it be more accurate to say the blind side’s tackle than the left tackle? the left tackle is getting the best pass rusher because QBs are typically right handed and therefore the left side is his “blind” side. throw in a left handed QB and he’s able to see that left side and the left side’s rusher’s ability is slightly diminished.

by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 18, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there are a few problems with your theory

It predisposes that the center makes the right call and/or the line properly diagnoses what is about to happen, which isn’t a given in college or even the pros – See the Saban 2006 season at Miami using Taylor as a Jack linebacker.

In any case, I doubt that the system is as simple as that and it’s likely not for potential running downs as you seem to be suggesting for exactly those reasons. On passing downs, there’s a difference. Texas will probably not always go to a balanced 3-4, instead sometimes shifting Kindle across the field and overloading the right side. From there he may rush or drop back and let Keenan Robinson (He’s going to win the job, right?) do the rushing. Or both players may rush and some lucky RB gets to try and save his quarterback’s life. It’s also fairly likely that Kindle could move on rare occassion to the center of the line as a tackle, particularly against weak competition so it’s in the film, and more often look for a gap to shoot just behind the 3-4 defensive end.

To me, the purpose of this maneuver isn’t to create a completely sound defensive scheme against both the run and the pass, it’s to create a split second’s hesitation in the opposing line for the pass rush at the expense of the occasional gash from a (presumably audibled) run. Since this line will rely more on quickness than strength, it seems like a good idea on paper, but the schedule UT has means it probably won’t be tested until OU.

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by learned hand on Aug 18, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok
Texas will probably not always go to a balanced 3-4, instead sometimes shifting Kindle across the field and overloading the right side. From there he may rush or drop back and let Keenan Robinson (He’s going to win the job, right?) do the rushing. Or both players may rush and some lucky RB gets to try and save his quarterback’s life.

In your overload example, we’re still talking 3 DL, 4 LBs, correct, not a “traditional” 3-4, which has 5 on the line, and two ILBs? If he overloads the right side as in your example, we’re now looking at an Over 4-3, which the line will have a call for, so again you’ve simplified the offensive line’s job. If we’re looking at an overload in a “traditional” 3-4, you now have your most dangerous pass rusher on side of the line, so the offenses can either motion a receiver or TE over to that area, and force him into coverage off the line, or they can use the extra blocker to crack down on Kindle, OR the QB can just rollout to the other way.

As for putting him inside as a tackle, please do. You’ll make your pass rush a lot less effective that way. I promise you Kindle would get destroyed as a 1 or 3-tech, b/c he doesn’t have the size, strength, or skill needed to play there. I’d love to see them try to pull that against OU.

by Beergut on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever notice that you only read the part of a post that you can easily disagree with?

In general, considering how historically conservative the game plan is against OU, and the likelihood that Sam Bradford is the only QB Texas sees all season capable of making the kind of adjustments you’re talking about, I doubt we’ll see anything truly off the wall in that game.

The significant point, that you don’t seem to want to acknowledge, is that the entire purpose is to mix up schemes and make the offense adjust. Unless I’m mistaken, there is no defensive superplay to which the offense has no conceivable adjustment. But forcing them to make that adjustment increases the odds that something will go sideways. Make Jermaine Gresham throw a good chip before going out on his route. Make sure that all of the new big 12 QB’s know their audibles and show them something they’ve never seen live before. If possible test both tackles with Kindle as a stand up rusher and with his hand down.

As a side note, Kindle as a defensive tackle seems unlikely to me as well, but a one off play in a blowout or a reflex check on an inexperienced O-Lineman with wide splits wouldn’t make me blink. Frankly I couldn’t guess how Kindle will be used, and neither can you, too much of it depends on whether or not he’s developed a pass rush move or two in the offseason. I fully expect to see four defensive ends (with 2 lined up as tackles) several times this season, Kindle may get a turn inside. Kindle taking an inside rush lane behind Lamar Houston? Well, hopefully we’ll get to see that in the A&M game before the starters are yanked.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Aug 19, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Moving Kindle around makes it difficult for the OL

Moving your star DE/LB around right before the snap so that the offense has a difficult time accounting for him is a good idea, especially against a green offensive line. It forces the OL to communicate more, which is a tough things to do in a stadium full of screaming fans. Putting Kindle at DT is really confusing because you still don’t know what he is going to do. Is he going to shoot a gap to rush the QB? Is he going to drop into zone coverage to facilitate a zone blitz.? It is good for the defense when they can make the offense think because it introduces uncertainty.

by Kafka on Aug 19, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

As it ever crossed your mind that

Will Muschamp knows a thing or two about defense. Every scenario that you have mentioned I’m sure he has thought of. I put my trust in Coach Boom!

by 2Cor12:9 on Aug 19, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree that left tackle is more difficult. I’m not a lineman myself, nor have I been one myself, but the mental aspects of playing center, being in charge of blocking audibles and such, is really challenging, especially for a youngster. LT (or as someone noted, blind-side tackle) is more challenging physically, but the transition for a young guy at center seems quite a bit tougher than at LT. It’s almost analogous to QB vs. RB, as the RB requires more physical talent, but is less difficult than QB because the QB position is about a lot more than physical gifts.

by burntorangehorn on Aug 20, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn I Loved This Post

Football in Texas – Priceless.

by realmccoy on Aug 18, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

If Snow replaces Tanner, who replaces Hall?

I still have a soft spot for Hall because the guy played very position in the same season because we needed him too. Now that’s a team player.

Thanks for adding to the depth, Burk Burnette.

by TheElusiveShadow on Aug 18, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Ever seen a Chris Hall interview?

Kids got a great personality too, would love to have a beer with him.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair point.

As long as the boys are protected if its in Oklahoma.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll drink to that

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Aug 19, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

in that situation Snow would move to center and then Tray Allen would come in at guard. I believe Steve Moore would probably be next in line after that unless the coaches decide to burn the redshirt of either Mason Walters or Thomas Ashcraft.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Walters

I don’t think there is any question he plays this year. Speculation is that he is going to start his career inside and then eventually move to tackle.

by Horncasting on Aug 19, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Definitely going to need him on the outside, possibly as early as next year.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 19, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tanner and Snow

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but it is still too early to make these kinds of claims in terms of which player is better for the team this year.

David Snow more than ably filled in last year as a true freshman, an extremely difficult task at a position that almost always demands experience and time in the program to develop physically, made even more impressive by the fact that Snow often played the most difficult position on the line — center.

It’s clear that Snow has much higher upside than the elder Tanner. Now that the three terrible linebackers from the dark days are gone, talent and abillty to execute supposedly trump “having bled for the program.” Whether an ineffective Charlie Tanner continues to play over David Snow may be one of the biggest tests of that transformation this season.

Replace Snow’s name with Huey and this exact same point was being made at this time last year. Tanner got hurt, Huey got his opportunity and didn’t play nearly to the level everyone thought he would based on rankings, potential and flashes from his freshman year.

Higher longterm upside? Probably. Higher upside this season? We’ll have to see. Based on fairly thin depth at C and G, he’ll definitely be getting plenty of time to show us.

by Horncasting on Aug 19, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not saying that Tanner shouldn't start right now,

just saying that his struggles against Houston raise previous concerns and if he performs like that in games, he shouldn’t be in there. As you mention, the Longhorns aren’t particularly deep on the offensive line with proven contributors, so the better that Tanner and Hall play, obviously the better the team will be. That’s the best-case scenario and one for which I’m hopeful, but I’m just haven’t been convinced by their play that will happen.

You do make a good point about Huey — Snow will have to continue working hard to play better than he did last season.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Stuff

I would say more but I am afraid of being put on notice.

"Will Rogers never met Barry Switzer."

by Broncho1673 on Aug 19, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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