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Bevo's Daily Round Up - August 19, 2009

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16 17 days until the Louisiana-Monroe game

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 Love that alliteration. Sports writers get paid good money to write stupid headlines: Red River Rivalry Rooted In Revenge.

The prevailing memory regarding Texas and Oklahoma from the 2008 season is that the Sooners played for the BCS championship at the Longhorns' expense. When the final BCS standings came out in December, Oklahoma got the chance to play for No. 1. Texas watched the Sooners from home. Therefore, the Sooners got the best of their biggest rival.

The truth is a little more complicated. In Oklahoma, the Sooners and their fans look back farther than December. They go all the way back to October, when Oklahoma took a big lead early (14-3 in the second quarter), a smaller lead late (35-30 in the fourth) and lost 45-35. That memory resonates with the same power as the third consecutive Big 12 South championship and all the bitterness of the BCS National Championship Game loss to Florida.

To the three R's most important in Texas and Oklahoma -- Red River Rivalry -- add a fourth. Both teams are looking for revenge.

"That happens with that game," Texas coach Mack Brown said. "Everybody needs to be mad before they get there."

Everything you never wanted to know about heat and fluids. From Camping With Coach Brown:

Kenny told me during a typical practice in this heat, the guys need to replace about 24 ounces of fluid per hour. That means they need to be hydrating regularly, and we build in multiple breaks during practice to do that. There are water stations and trainers all over the place helping the guys. I was told that during a typical practice, we consume 90 to 100 gallons of water and Gatorade.

The Austin American-Statesman has a profile of Jordan Shipley.

Here's a preview of the Wyoming Cowboys.

The Cowboys were picked to finish last in the Mountain West Conference this season by the league coaches and when coach Christensen was asked for his response to the results he didn't seem all that surprised.

"That's where I would have voted us too, we have done anything yet. Credibility and respect is something you earn on the playing field and we haven't done anything. The great news is we have 12 weeks to go out and earn respect and credibility and it starts that first game on September 5 and if you want respect you go out and earn respect, it's not given to you."

According to TicketCity, the Texas-OU game tickets are coming in second in ticket price to the Ohio State-USC game.

They are here! HEB is now carrying UT and A&M branded chips.

 

 

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Oklahoma State

The big question still remains. Is Zac Robinson going to be 100% healthy this season?

Yes, it may be just a mildly pulled leg muscle. And yes, all reports have Robinson returning behind center for Oklahoma State when football practice resumes Tuesday. But the first shadow has been officially cast on the 2009 season.

Maybe it’s partly due to the fact that Gundy mentioned this past week that Robinson has has gone through this type of injury before. An injured hamstring is like an injured back: Does it every really heal?

The biggest problem with this injury, of course, is that Robinson does almost as much damage with his legs and he does with his arm. Robinson’s running ability makes the Cowboys’ offense much harder to defend.

Redshirt freshman running back Kye Staley is out for the season.

CollegeFootballNews.com has ranked the Cowboy offense as the best in the country.

The web site's reasoning for placing the Cowboys in the nation's top spot: "Want to beat Oklahoma State? You might have to put 45 points on the board just to hang around with Zac Robinson and the Cowboys...After finishing seventh in the nation in total offense two years ago, the OSU offensive machine was even better finishing sixth in the country averaging 488 yards and 41 points per game. Possibly the nation's most balanced and efficient attack, there are four superstars to build around in QB Zac Robinson, WR Dez Bryant, OT Russell Okung, and RB Kendall Hunter, with Bryant and Hunter likely to be among the top ten players taken in the 2010 NFL Draft."

Before Boone Pickens hatched a plan to save the U.S. from dependence on foreign oil, he had a plan to save the Cowboys from becoming the punching bag that other state school.

 

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He feels like Florida won it? Dan Patrick interviewed Bob Stoops.

Dan asked him now that he’s had time, how does he feel about the loss to Florida in the BCS National Title game and whether the Gators won or the Sooners lost it.

"I feel like Florida won it," Stoops said. He pointed to a number of tough plays the Gators made down the stretch. Stoops also said that Tim Tebow’s scrambling caused them problems.

 

 

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ESPN's Tim Griffin has predictions for the Big 12. Two of note:

8. Game of the year: Texas vs. Oklahoma in Dallas, Oct. 17 -- Is there really any other? The South Division's balance of powers should be set in this game again as the division's winner likely will come from this game for the 11th straight season.

10. Team that will disappoint: Oklahoma State -- The Cowboys will be a solid bowl team but won't live up to the preseason hype that has thrown them into the preseason top 10 as a potential BCS surprise team.

Scott Van Pelt and Ryen Russillo preview the conference season. (Podcast)



The North

Bo Pelini loves intensity.

"We've got to continue what we started today," he said. "When I talk about getting better, it's about execution, consistency and doing what we're asking them to do time after time. I'm seeing some progress, but at the same time we're not near where we want to be. We have high standards."

The Jayhawk defensive line doesn't talk much. You could say they are a little on the passive side. That could be a problem for defensive-line coach Tom Sims.

"How do you get them excited?" Sims asked. "You know, that’s the challenge, to be honest. A lot of them do take kind of a workman’s attitude. They bring their lunch pail and don’t say much. But hey, what we have to understand is that life ain’t a dress rehearsal. This is the real thing. You get excited about every day. Because our game is a closing window, and when it’s done, it’s done. When it’s closed and you’re outside of it, you want to look through the window and say, ‘I accomplished some things and enjoyed it along the way.’ "

Kansas Defensive end Maxwell Onyegbule is all business. All numbers.

F.Y.I. Mark Mangino wants you to know he isn't switching to a 4-2-5 formation.

News out of Jayhawk camp this summer had Mangino abandoning his base 4-3 defense to better take advantage of a deep secondary and hide his unproven linebacker unit. At media day, however, Mangino was adamant that his primary defense would stay the same.

"There are two or three really good teams in this league that will run the ball down your throat if you try to play in the nickel all night," Mangino said.

Gary Pinkel is shaking up his depth chart.

It's one of the oldest motivational tricks in the book, but one that Missouri coach Gary Pinkel apparently is employing in the middle of two-a-day practices for his young team.

Sophomore Jerrell Jackson has moved ahead of Missouri's leading returning receiver, Jared Perry, after Perry struggled through the Tigers' scrimmage on Saturday.

The Tigers have some spots to fill on the defensive line.

With plenty of playing time up for grabs this season, sophomore Jacquies Smith and redshirt freshman Aldon Smith have solidified themselves as two of the three members of the starting defensive end rotation, along with senior Brian Coulter.

Aside from their last names, and the buzz they've created among the coaching staff, there aren't many similarities between the two.

Way too much information? Sporting News interviewed Iowa State quarterback Austen Arnaud. He loves his mother's lasagna and wants to the play the piano.



The South

Penn State transfer Phil Taylor has given the Bears high hopes for the season.

Briles knows that Taylor is the right person to help add to the buzz hovering around the Baylor football program.

"He’s got to have an impact," Briles said. "It’s a deal where it’s got to happen. He’s got to be a dominant force up front, and really that’s the thing we’re emphasizing across the board up front offensively and defensively."

Of the top three players at "H" inside receiver, Raider Adam James has been the most consistent during camp.

"He’s more motivated, more hungry," Riley said. "Something’s clicked with him to make him turn it on. He’s really clouded the picture up at ‘H.’ "

Riley said he doesn’t automatically think of Tramain Swindall as the starter, though it’s hard to picture it not unfolding that way. Last year, Swindall had 46 catches for 561 yards, James 15 for 159, and Cornelius Douglas redshirted.

Riley made the comments late Sunday after reviewing tape of that day’s workout in which James caught passes for 30, 38 and 21 yards during the daily 11-on-11 team scrimmage period.

"He’s playing like a different guy," Riley said. "I was extremely disappointed with how he played in the spring. In the spring, it was clear cut that Tramain and Cornelius were far and away the two best Hs. (James) has responded. We had a lot of talks with him, because we knew he had more in the tank."

Tech linebacker Blake Collier has not had an easy time the last two years. This year will be different.

Collier has suffered a torn hamstring, same leg, each of the last two seasons.

"It was frustrating at first," he said, "but then I just looked at it as time to get better, rebuild, get my body right, get more flexible.

"I think I got a lot stronger, so I think it was a good year. Everything happens for a reason. That was one of those things that you just have to find the good in it."

The 6-foot-2, 218-pound junior seems to have come back well from the two injury-plagued seasons. In the first week-plus of preseason practice, he’s been making plays on a daily basis, particularly in pass coverage.

Raider running back Baron Batch may return sooner than anticipated.

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Holy crap, this terrible website doesn't stop, does it?
CollegeFootballNews.com has ranked the Cowboy offense as the best in the country.

CFN.com keeps posting the worst analysis available in CFB news.

by TXinDC on Aug 19, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

They came up with the conclusion because of this?

Possibly the nation’s most balanced and efficient attack…

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would you agree...

In saying that Florida might have the most balanced and efficient attack? Even thought they lost Percy Harvin, I would have to imagine that somebody will step up.

by mccoy12 on Aug 19, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now don’t get me wrong, I love looking through my Burnt Orange shaded glasses, but I can’t say that Texas has the most balanced and efficient attack. I can say however, that the QB and receiving core is probably the best in the nation, along with our O-Line which is probably again, best in the nation. Not to mention, the Running back by commitee we have. This year I have ful faith in Fozzy and Vondrell to get it done.

by mccoy12 on Aug 19, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd wager that our O-line is top ten-ish

but not the best in the nation. I couldnt really tell you who’s is better but just from my observation the line is underwhelming.

by owenh on Aug 19, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

The same can be said for the Sooners. Besides the returning Heisman trophy winner, the receivers will still be outstanding and they also have an outstanding back, if Murray stays healthy. The line is the question, but I would take OU’s untested line over OSU’s any day.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

About OU’s O-Line. Unfortunately, they only re-load at positions like that

by mccoy12 on Aug 19, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone also seems to gloss over OU losing their top receivers as well

You don’t lose 19 receiving touchdowns and just reload. I’m worried we overlook Quan’s contributions by being excited about the youngins, but by the same token, I think OU will miss Iglesias and Johnson more than they are expecting to.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

They will definitely be missed, but Ryan Broyles and Jermaine Gresham will take some of that slack. The other two positions are the question marks. I’m waiting to see if Cameron Kenney is all they make him out to be. It has been said before, but OU just reloads.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know they have talent

Just saying 19 TDs is a lot to replace, thats all.

Surely the slack will get picked up, but will the total production still be there?

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on the line and the protection for Bradford. You can’t dismiss the receiver talent but when you have 22 minutes to find an open receiver, you are going to put up some serious numbers.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then again...

How many of those 19 TDs were superfluous?

by TXinDC on Aug 19, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

In their Five "biggest games"

TX, Kansas, Tech, OkSU, and Florida:

Combined totals for Johnson and Iglesias, along with the percentage of Sam’s totals:
Against Texas: 13 Catches (46%), 3 TDs (60%), 177 Yards (46%)
Against Kansas: 13 Catches (36%), 0 TD (0%), 212 Yards (45%)
Against Tech: 2 Catches (14%), 0 TD (0%), 94 Yards (31%)
Against OkSU: 10 Catches (33%), 1 TD (25%), 110 Yards (30%)
Against Florida: 9 Catches (35%), 0 TD (0%), 87 Yards (34%)

So looking at that, maybe my perception is tainted by the worth I put on their performance that I watched most closely, ie against Texas. Also of note, Gresham tore shit up against Tech, OkSU, and FU. Him having a good matchup in those games could be part of their lower totals in those contests.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

39 tds or so...

could be considered “superfluous”. If they won every game by at least 5 points(included both loses), the Sooners could’ve got away with 39 less TD’s last year.

So my thought is, given the proven players that are returning- Broyles, Gresham, Madu (who will move to slot)- and what I’ve read about Kenney and Tennell, they’ll be just as affective as last year. And if they’re not, it won’t really make that much of a difference in terms of wins and losses.

by ern on Aug 19, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, though. This is an asinine conclusion. OSU has a very good offense, but hardly the best in the country.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...That's laughable.

I guess they didn’t know that McCoy and Shipley were room mates.

by mccoy12 on Aug 19, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Oklahoma State
Want to beat Oklahoma State? You might have to put 45 points on the board just to hang around with Zac Robinson and the Cowboys…

Or you could score 28 and play good defense.

Looking forward to BON’s and Barking Carnival’s previews of OSU. Based on their body of work last year, I see a good team with some upside for this year, but not a team deserving of all of the praise they have been getting. I think the loss of Petigrew is going to hurt their offense alot more than is being discussed by the media.

by Horncasting on Aug 19, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

The comments drive me crazy

But since I dont want to subscribe to another SBN blog that I cant unsubscribe to (Here’s looking at you, CC Machine), Ill just bitch about it here.

This is mainly in reference to the thread asking about Bradford’s numbers against Florida as validation that the Big 12 QBs are really just facing weak defenses constantly.

1. First, basing any sort of assumption on a single occurrence is the most ridiculous thing you could ever do, especially in something as emotionally driven as playing for all the marbles in college football. Not to mention any specific matchups that favor one team over another, gameplan, time to prepare, the morning breakfast, or any other of a zillion factors that go into a single performance.

2. He still posted numbers that was on par with the best in the SEC. So even if you take that against the only real defense he played against, Bradford still came out at the top of the SEC, would that not validate his numbers more than invalidate? Everyone’s college schedule includes cupcakes. Everyones. Want to make it really meaningful? Take out every game that was against a team that didnt go bowling, and total those numbers. Sure Bradfords and McCoys numbers get inflated against the bottom dwellers in the big 12, but did Tebow not benefit statistically from playing Citadel, Hawaii, Vandy, and Kentucky?

3. Its all ridiculous anyway, because scheme matters more to statistics than anything else. See Texas Tech over the past 10 years or so. Would Tebow be successful at UT? Yes. Would Bradford? Yes. Is McCoy? Yes. Swap any of those three around and as long as the scheme adapts to fit, they should all do well statistically.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

Also, I’d like to see Tebow’s numbers against OU put into their little formula. Shouldn’t he put up a 12.00 or something, since Big 12 D’s are so terrible?

by ctex80 on Aug 19, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

They try to denigrate Florida’s defense as a weak SEC defense, when they were #3 in the nation in passing efficiency defense, tops in the SEC, #4 in the nation in scoring defense, tops in the SEC, and incase you value total yards for some reason, 9th in the nation in total defense, good for third in the SEC.

Sounds like a pretty good SEC defense to me.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

6.15

I’m not sure if I got it quite right, but based on the formula that resulted in Bradford rating an 8.38 against Florida, Tebow rated a whopping 6.15 against OU…

by utcopt on Aug 19, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Why does SBN have this no-unsubscribe policy? I don’t know of any other forums like that.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Aug 19, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you can't hit and run

I’m guessing its designed to prevent people from trolling or spamming on a blog and then unsubscribing which in turn can’t get you banned from a blog. You can’t ban someone from a blog if they are not subscribed to the blog. You can only unsubscribe if you have not posted or commented at all on the blog you registered.

There was a firefight!!!!

by ThePhenomenon on Aug 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCoy's numbers
Sure Bradfords and McCoys numbers get inflated against the bottom dwellers in the big 12

Actually, in the 5 biggest games in 2008 (OU, Missouri, OSU, Tech, tOSU) Colt’s average passing yards were higher than his average for the entire year. Not much stat padding against cupcakes for Colt last year.

by Horncasting on Aug 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

I just didnt want to sound like a biased homer leaving possible stat padding out of it. Though I bet if you calced out that number for him against Rice it would be pretty good.

One thing to love about Colt is that he always seems to be nails in the big games. His career numbers against OU are pretty freaking terrific.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction:
One thing to love about 2008 Colt is that he always seems to be nails in the big games.

This was not the case so often in 2007. Then again, not much from 08 mirrored 07.

by TXinDC on Aug 19, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

K-State and OkState were anomalies

And against OkState he got his man pants on before the game was over.

He still had a good showing against OU in the loss, Tech, and the Bowl Game.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 19, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing drives me more insane

than when someone from the SEC tries to make a point based on one piece of data, i.e. the MNC game.

by ern on Aug 19, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Nothing drives me more insane

than when someone from the SEC tries to make a point. (period).

by billb on Aug 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

17 days...

I have the wrong day count at the top. It is 17 days, according to Mack Brown Texas Football (which is the source I use).

I’m just mentally pushing it. Maybe it will get here faster.

by dimecoverage on Aug 19, 2009 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

When a commenter there claimed that he did not believe

That Big 12 quarterbacks were in any way superior to SEC quarterbacks, I know I was reading idiot comments and just left the site. Please. At least the poster seemed aware that SEC quarterbacks on a whole were not even close to the Big 12.

by TheElusiveShadow on Aug 19, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Of all fanbases, LSU fans should be aware of that

Easily the worst QB play of any BCS conference for most of the season. But at least Jarrett Lee answered the question “What would Reggie Ball have looked like if Calvin Johnson didn’t go to Georgia Tech.”

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Aug 19, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol
HEB is now carrying UT and A&M branded chips.

comment after the article in ABJ:

One of them is flavored like a dog who gets beat up by a little bear from Waco. The other tastes like champions!

by horndude on Aug 20, 2009 5:05 AM CDT reply actions  

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