Mack Brown Releases Texas Depth Chart for Season Opener
| OFFENSE | ||||||||
| Position | No. | Player | | | No. | Player | | | No. | Player |
| Flanker (Z) | 11 | James Kirkendoll | OR | 5 | Brandon Collins | |||
| Sub B | 9 | Malcolm Williams | OR | 7 | John Chiles | |||
| Tight End (Y) | 83 | Greg Smith | | | 13 | Ahmard Howard |
OR | 89 | Barrett Matthews |
| Flex TE: Dan Buckner, Barrett Matthews | ||||||||
| Right Tackle | 64 | Kyle Hix | | | 72 | Britt Mitchell | |||
| Right Guard | 63 | Michael Huey | OR | 78 | David Snow | | | 67 | Mason Walters |
| Center | 71 | Chris Hall | | | 78 | David Snow | |||
| Left Guard | 52 | Charlie Tanner | OR | 78 | David Snow | | OR |
75 54 |
Steve Moore Mark Buchanan |
| Left Tackle | 74 | Adam Ulatoski | | | 56 | Tray Allen | OR | 77 | Luke Poehlmann |
| Split End (X) | 8 | Jordan Shipley | | | 9 | Malcolm Williams | OR | 4 | Dan Buckner |
| Tailback | 2 | Vondrell McGee | | | 31 | Cody Johnson | OR | 28 | Fozzy Whitaker |
| Fullback | 24 | Antwann Cobb | | | 31 | Cody Johnson | |||
| Quarterback | 12 | Colt McCoy | | | 3 | Garrett Gilbert | | | 17 | Sherrod Harris |
| Place-Kicker | 15 | Hunter Lawrence | OR | 39 | Ryan Bailey | | | 9 | Justin Tucker |
| DEFENSE | ||||||||
| Position | No. | Player | | | No. | Player | | | No. | Player |
| Buck | 2 | Sergio Kindle | | | 80 | Alex Okafor | |||
| Tackle (Nose) | 91 | Kheeston Randall | OR | 92 | Ben Alexander | | | 56 | Tray Allen |
| Tackle | 33 | Lamarr Houston | | | 96 | Calvin Howell | OR | 93 | Tyrell Higgins |
| End | 81 | Sam Acho | | | 32 | Eddie Jones | |||
| Strongside LB | 18 | Emmanuel Acho | OR | 1 | Keenan Robinson | |||
| Middle LB | 11 | Jared Norton | | | 42 | Dustin Earnest | |||
| Weakside LB | 38 | Roddrick Muckelroy | | | 1 | Keenan Robinson | OR | 18 | Emmanuel Acho |
| Right CB | 8 | Chykie Brown | | | 7 | Deon Beasley | |||
| Right Safety | 6 | Christian Scott | OR | 21 | Blake Gideon | | | 5 | Ben Wells |
| Left Safety | 12 | Earl Thomas | | | 27 | Nolan Brewster | |||
| Left CB | 4 | Aaron Williams | | | 3 | Curtis Brown | |||
| Nickel | 4 | Aaron Williams | | | 12 | Earl Thomas | |||
| Punter | 47 | John Gold | OR | 6 | Justin Tucker | | | 17 | Trevor Gerland |
| SPECIAL TEAMS | ||||||||
| Punt Returns | 8 | Jordan Shipley | | | 12 3 |
Earl Thomas Curtis Brown |
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| Kickoff Returns | 8 6 |
Jordan Shipley Christian Scott |
| | 9 4 |
Malcolm Williams Aaron Williams |
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| Kickoffs | 9 | Justin Tucker | | | 15 | Hunter Lawrence | |||
| Holder | 8 | Jordan Shipley | | | 17 | Sherrod Harris | |||
| Deep Snapper (PAT/FG) | 83 | Greg Smith | | | 72 | Britt Mitchell | |||
| Deep Snapper (Punts) | 58 | William Harvey | | | 48 | Alex Zumberge | |||
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I think it's pretty much what we expected.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
by Sunkist on Aug 27, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just posted the same
I like yours better. Will delete mine and bump yours.
Aaron Williams is going to hurt someone.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Aug 27, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Yeah!
7 pics, 4 Defensive TD’s, and 2 Kick returns for TD
by orangetower on Aug 27, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s two people in the nickel package, so we’ll need to get used to using the plural form of verbs to describe his violence.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope he doesn't Deon Beasley us.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Aug 28, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not likely at all.........
He has better size, speed, and is a ball magnet. He’s more than likely to Michael Huff, Nathan Vasher, Aaron Ross, or Quentin Jammer on us!
by orangetower on Aug 28, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better speed?
I agree on the Huff and Jammer comparisons, but not so much on Vasher. Ross, maybe, but Ross was much more compact.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he meant compared to Beasley
by vy til i die on Aug 28, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve seen Williams display better speed than Beasley. I’ve never thought of Beasley as being anything less than great in the speed department. Am I wrong?
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say
We didn’t think Beasley would go Beasley on us until we were left with our heads shaking in wonderment.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Aug 28, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Ship on both kick off and punt returns. I thought he was going to only do 1? I certainly wouldn’t play him at either position in any of our non-con games just to give him a break and make sure that he stays healthy the whole season.
by UT_BKC on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and a lot could happen injury-wise to change things, but does this pretty much mean that derek johnson is redshirting?
by UT_BKC on Aug 27, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derek Johnson still needs to get into game shape.
I think I read that he’s doing good things, but he’s just not in the physical shape that he needs to be in. He will likely redshirt.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
by Sunkist on Aug 27, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also holder
A favorite target of cheap shot artists.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Aug 27, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a natural place to put Chiles instead of Shipley, no?
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christian Scott
Could be our starting safety and could be our 2nd kick returner. Didn’t know he had speed to do returns.
And no Marquise Goodwin or DJ Monroe?
by thebrat on Aug 27, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's just for the first game....things will change.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
by Sunkist on Aug 27, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deon Beasley officially relegated to second team as a senior.
Not especially surprising this season. Would have been in 2007.
by billyzane on Aug 27, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope he comes to form
I still have some hope for him to be a playmaker, maybe special teams.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Aug 27, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some thoughts
QB: Gilbert as clear “2” (no joke when you see how many OR’s are on this thing). Sounds like he’ll be on mop-up duty in 9 days. No redshirt here.
RB: Little surprised to see the Codester ahead of Fozzy. No Tre Newton on the depth chart, Mack? Why limit to just 3?
WR: Kirk is “ahead” of Collins. Malcolm Williams, he of two OR’s, hasn’t stepped up like we want him to.
Flex TE: Not as important as nickel. Or fullback.
TE: GoBR will be thrilled.
OL: David Snow seems to have impressed. The starting guards have not. Tray Allen still second team LT. If Ulatoski getting hurt or being ineffective is a scary thought.
K/P: Embarrassment of riches.
DE/LB: Pretty clear 1/2 over here. Gotta love that depth.
DT: Concerning. Randall looks like he’ll claim a starting spot at some point. Howell looks like he’s already in the mix—bye, shirt. Tray Allen is for serious.
DB: Aaron Williams is going to wreck shop, but he can’t play both positions at once. Will the nickel be Scott, Gideon and Thomas? Or are we going to see Beasley or Curtis Brown come in? Where have you gone, Deon Beasley?
Returners: That Jordan Shipley returning kicks is a smokescreen, right Mack?
by jc25 on Aug 27, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man that is distracting…. almost didn’t read your post….
by UT_BKC on Aug 27, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The nickel package is what I find interesting...
I think we are going to see a 3 safety nickel, with Williams and Chykie outside, Earl covering the slot receiver, and Gideon and Scott at the safety spots. As sexy as that is, the front 6 (on passing downs) is even more fun…Robinson or Acho beside Muck, Jones, Acho (sliding inside as a pass rushing DT), Houston, Kindle.
That is just dirty.
by ctex80 on Aug 27, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"ahead"
I always thought that the OR designation meant that the players on either side of the OR are equal. Can someone explain?
by mikey 4 on Aug 27, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes and no
In theory it means they’re equal, but one name still comes before another. If that’s philosophical enough.
by jc25 on Aug 27, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Non-Texas depth chart news
USC names Matt Barkley starting QB.
by jc25 on Aug 27, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but Corp has been coming on strong since his “injury”… look to see if Corp is starting ahead of Barkley. from what I’ve read he’s a high risk high reward kind of player. throws alot of picks in practice (a trend carried from his senior year in which he threw like 18) thinking he’s good enough to fit a ball somewhere, btu he throws down the field real well.
corp is the safer bet with barkley coming in mid season to replace him.
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 27, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, he looked like a stud in the Under Armour game
and supposedly he didn’t have as much talent on his high school team his senior year as he did his junior year when he was the first high school junior to win Gatorade National Player of the Year.
by 2Cor12:9 on Aug 27, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, played Mr. Mustain
I guess his plan to stick it to Arkansas by going to USC and starting didn’t quite work out for him.
by TexasGarcia37 on Aug 28, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holder
Why not have Sherrod Harris as holder? He could get some, albeit a small amount, of playing time and we would have a better option for a 2 if trickery were in order.
by UTexasCPA on Aug 27, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shipley has been solid as a holder,
and if memory serves, he’s also had some success with the trick plays as well.
by ctex80 on Aug 27, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leaping DLs in a single bound
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Aug 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Against Kansas,
That has to be one of my favorite Shipley moments.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Aaron Williams...
So I was under the impression that Earl Thomas was going to play the nickel and that Scott/Gideon were going to be the safeties, which makes sense to me. Since we’re going to be in the nickel a lot of the time and therefor Aaron Williams won’t be playing corner, I guess Curtis Brown will be in there at CB?
Does is make more sense to have (i) Williams, both Browns, Earl and either Scott/Gideon rather than (ii) Williams, Chykie, Earl, Scott and Gideon? I certainly think Earl can do some elite nickel cover D, so I don’t know.
by billyzane on Aug 27, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thomas in the nickel.
Certainly, that seemed to be the plan coming out of spring practice, but Gideon had shoulder surgery and missed some time working 7-on-7s and Williams took over the nickel corner spot with Scott in at safety, then Curtis Brown moving into the vacated corner spot.
I think both Williams and Thomas give Muschamp what he wants out of that position, which is the ability to blitz, play man coverage, and support the run. Basically, a do-everyting position and both of those players are extremely well-rounded, so I think some of it comes down to the battle between Scott and Gideon and since we’re down to the point or parsing the finest elements of this depth chart, notice that Scott is listed in front of Gideon.
Given that Curtis Brown is the physically weakest of the three, who plays might ultimately depend on the physicality of the opposing receivers and how much the opponent likes to run the screen game, to avoid match ups like Michael Crabtree physically manhandling Deon Beasley last year.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read it as coaches
being happier playing 3 CBs than 3 safeties. May mean Curtis Brown has come on. I’d say the same for Snow, E. Acho.
by edsp on Aug 27, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Earl takes the slot receiver, that's gonna be some punishment waiting to happen.
That could be a sharp psychological advantage over a hot receiver: you may catch the ball, but your going to get blasted every time.
by whills on Aug 27, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how scary is it that we will have the same DB lineup in 2010!!!
by Texastough on Aug 27, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
knock on wood
Earl will be NFL eligible after this year
by acho81 on Aug 27, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As will Chykie and Scott. However, I don’t think it’s particularly likely that either of those two turns pro. Thomas could be slightly more likely, but the safety crop this year has two safety prospects who will likely be first-round picks (Berry, Mays), and a number of guys who could sneak in there as well (Stuckey from KU, Burnett from GT, Jones from UGA, etc.), so it might not be the right time for a guy who has only played two seasons to jump into the pool. Hoping Earl stays regardless of any of that.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a big fan of the second option.
If I’m reading it correctly, it looks like this depth chart will allow Muschamp to sub Gideon for Curtis Brown, depending on matchups. The versatility of Williams and Thomas allows for so many different things.
by ctex80 on Aug 27, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much what we expected. Minus a few details
Beasley backin up huh? A lot of what I saw last year was that he was kinda feast or famine. I like Blake Gideon, I’m surprised at Scott getting the nod but that’s cool he’s a big hitter. I didn’t realize he had speed though ( or at least enough to return kicks) they have him listed at 210 lbs. that’s a little heavy. The Acho brothers and Aaron Williams are gonna be headhunters this year. This team is loooooaded with talent. COME ON SEPT. 5TH.
by nathantx57 on Aug 27, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I figured Thomas and Gideon would be the starting safeties in a four-DB set, but Scott would bump Thomas out to nickel in a standard five-DB set. This depth chart kind of fubars that. I really do trust Gideon a lot more than I do Scott or Curtis, so if he can stay on the field, I’ll be glad.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's significant...
… that Vondrell has a bar separating him from CoJo and Fozzy. I thought he was our best back last year, behind Ogbonnaya, but he got seriously thrashed on one play pretty early on that may have slowed him down. He’s definitely physical enough to pick up a blitz, which was the biggest thing holding him back last year (that and his propensity for running into the backs of our blockers instead of the big holes next to them). Here’s hoping he’s brushed aside those stumbling blocks.
by Horn Brain on Aug 27, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McGee
also needed to work on catching the ball out of the backfield last year. The reasoning for Whittaker falling behind? Another knee injury. Apparently he missed a week of practice and two of the scrimmages. And so the frustration continues to build with Whittaker and his repeated injuries. I guess that strength he added in the off season didn’t make him any more durable.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whaley?
Does he get the redshirt?
by orangetower on Aug 27, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks possible right now
But I’m sure the caoches won’t make a decision on that for a few weeks. I think if he can contribute later int he year he probably plays, but it doesn’t look likely during the non-conference at least.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mack says players who haven't played
after 6 games (could be more like 4 or 5) are offered the chance to redshirt.
I count just five of 21 true freshmen anywhere in the depth chart, but I’d be surprised if more than 12 redshirt. I’d guess one of the DBs, a LB, one more DL see the field. Whaley or Timmons wouldn’t surprise me. And the way the TE deal has gone, Graham may have to play.
by edsp on Aug 27, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
Footage of him for practices has been enemic. How has he looked? Do you think he’s fit and ready to play if need be? He looked so dominating in his recruiting video?
by orangetower on Aug 28, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
David Snow is a backup at all interior OL positions; this means you are one injury to those three away from almost no depth, and Mason Walters losing his redshirt. Reminds me of the problems you had in 2007.
Tray Allen is a backup at LT and NT? Ulatoski needs to stay healthy all season. I’m not impressed with Ulatoski, but disaster is sitting right behind him.
I thought Houston had moved inside to 1-tech and Randall was going to be a 3-tech. This changes things. The weakness of your defense right now is right up the middle.
Shipley at X and Williams at B is just downright scary, especially if Williams becomes the player he has the potential to be (he has only scratched the surface so far).
by Beergut on Aug 27, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
David Snow is a backup at all interior OL positions; this means you are one injury to those three away from almost no depth, and Mason Walters losing his redshirt. Reminds me of the problems you had in 2007.
Unlikely that Walters would have redshirted in any case. He’s playing well enough to push for playing time. Our OL depth is more than fine. This is nothing like 2007.
You want to look at a disaster at OL, look at your own team.
by sessamoid on Aug 27, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
considering the fact that Walters was considered a top OL recruit, it is interesting that he is listed as a backup at guard rather than tackle. It makes me wonder if he isn’t in shape to play tackle, or if he simply doesn’t have the feet to play on the outside.
In 2007, your backup LT was your RT, and your backup RT was your LT; an early injury resulted in true freshmen having to play simply to provide depth. When you have one player (Snow) as the backup at 3 positions, and an injury moves him to a starting spot, meaning a true freshman (Walters) will be playing in the second string to provide depth, how can you say this isn’t similar to ’07?
As for our OL, they struggled last season with only 6 scholarship OL on the roster, but we still won’t be in the position of playing one person in three different spots on the line as a second-teamer.
by Beergut on Aug 28, 2009 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on beergut, you understand football well enough to know that this just indicates that Snow is considered second best at all three interior positions. If two of them go down there’s more guys behind him on the depth chart.
by hodad on Aug 28, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking Steve Moore is another option at C and either guard position, and Allen is an option at both guard and, in a pinch, tackle.
I really hope Allen gets to go back to guard at some point. The kid’s talent seems to be wasting away with the attempt to move him to tackle.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snow
The coaches just want Snow on the field and will put him in place of the first player to screw up. I have read that the coaches are impressed with M. Walters as well. The coaches are obviously in love with Snow. He played GREAT against Kansas last year when he started, so I can see why.
The seconds at Texas would start at a&m.
by Longhorns84 on Aug 28, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to completely invalidate everything else you previously said with only one sentence
by Beergut on Aug 29, 2009 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilariously petty
Even when quoting someone else, you can’t stand to capitalize Texas. Though I don’t always disagree with you, that’s also a good way to completely invalidate your position.
by gwh65 on Aug 29, 2009 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it’s pretty hard to measure, since obviously our 2nd string only really gets seeen during garbage minutes… and your 1st string was so horrible. it’s tough to make an accurate comparison.
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 29, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sam Acho vs Eddie Jones
Is Sam in front of Eddie? Or does the Buck position that Kindle and Okafor play sometimes make it to where those two play at the same time? If it is the former, is anyone else surprised by that? I thought Jones was a stud?
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
P.S. 45-35
by SwimTexas on Aug 27, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, im also surprised. Both are really good but I thought Jones would get the nod because of seniority
by MJY6087 on Aug 27, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In passing situations,
You’ll see Acho in at DT with Houston. Kindle + Houston + Acho + Jones = nasty pass rush.
by ctex80 on Aug 27, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of off topic, but did anybody else wonder about this?
Three walkons granted scholarships this week, but not P John Gold or DT Tyrell Higgins — both listed in the depth chart. Higgins, I know, left school for a time, but he’s been back for a year. I’m surprised he’d stay w/o some financial help.
by edsp on Aug 27, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Higgins must be very passion about the game…
by Horns98 on Aug 27, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gold and Higgins aren't seniors
While Harvey, Gold and McWhorter are. Thus the scholarships given to these three were available for one year, and will be used for only one year.
by jc25 on Aug 27, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK . . .
Except Bailey was nowhere near a senior when he was put on scholarship. Likewise, Marcus Griffin.
by edsp on Aug 27, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine there's a thought process involved
In Bailey’s case, he had made significant contributions to the team (i.e., win the game for them), which in Mack’s mind merited a scholarship. I’m not sure about Griffin…fraternal assistance, perhaps?
In the case of this year, the staff has made a calculated decision to pursue a pretty full scholarship class, and right now the scholarship count is not working in our favor. However, due to a few select scholarships opening up post-2009 signing class, Mack had three scollys open for this year only. As a result he gave it to three seniors who would take up the scholarship space for only one year. At least that’s what I gather.
By the way, I meant Harvey, Ford, and McWhorter, not Gold. Probably understood.
by jc25 on Aug 27, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Griffin earned a starting job. Kind of warrants a scholarship. Same with Bailey. There are two ways I’d expect a walk-on to earn a scholarship: (1) working hard and contributing wherever possible as an underclassman, and getting an “extra” (open) one-year scholarship for his senior year, and (2) proving he’s a valuable enough player that coaches are willing to bank on giving him a scholarship for the remainder of his eligibility.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great looking depth chart...
Thanks Sunkit.
You have Justin Tucker as #9 twice and #6 once. I assumed he must be #9 as his uniform number in this case. Also, I didn’t realize Nolan is 4 inches taller than Earl. What a difference of their height as left safety. I hope Muschamp will always remind his tallest players on the front line that they need to utilize their height to knock down the pass from the QBs. Sam Bradford is one of them, for sure. OU still sucks!!!
Off topic: Thunderstorm is rolling through as I typed… We need the rain very bad as Austin is under the freaking drought right now.
by Horns98 on Aug 27, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dos Achos. There has to be some clever usage of that.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just saying it… rolls off the tongue nicely. kinda like “salsa”
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 29, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TE
Is anyone else a little dissappointed about Barrett Matthews being buried behind Greg Smith and Ahmard Howard?
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 27, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if he’s not good enough to take over, then I’m not dissapointed, it’s if he’s held back and he shows he’s the superior choice that I’ll be dissapointed. he’s either ready, or he isn’t.
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 27, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way Im disappointed
I’m not suggesting he was held back just because he’s a freshman (for all the crap we give the coaching staff about playing freshman, they sure played Jamaal Charles pretty liberally his freshman year), but even if he was buried because of a lack of ability, that’s disappointing too.
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 27, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice the "or"
so while Howard is listed first, Matthews is closing in behind him. And remember that Matthews wasn’t on campus during the spring, so I think it’s impressive how far he has come — the coaches almost always mention how impressed they are with him. He will see some action early in the season.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The debate of what "or" really means notwithstanding,
I did initially miss that he wasn’t relegated to purely third string. I did think it was odd that we heard so much gushing about Matthews come out of the early practices, but I suppose translating that into a starting job is not exactly rational.
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 27, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Request for a Post on BON
If one of the writers here could write something about the “Buck” position — I know vaguely what it is, but I don’t know of teams in the past that’ve used it and with what degree of success. I was hoping someone would have written about this before but I couldn’t find anything. Such a glaring deficiancy on BON, for the kind of cover charge you guys have….
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 27, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just for a primer,
the Buck position is a defensive end or linebacker in a two-point stance at the line of scrimmage and they can rush or drop into zone coverage, mostly across the middle of the field. Basically, the offense doesn’t know if they are rushing or dropping, so it can create some confusion. Orakpo and Kindle played the position last year, so there’s a premium on speed to take the edge on opposing offensive lineman. Expect to see Emmanuel Acho in that position this year definitely and Keenan Robinson and Jared Norton may get looks, but I think Norton probably got set back at that position because of his shoulder issues.
by GhostofBigRoy on Aug 27, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There hasn’t been much chatter about Kindle’s role other than as a down lineman. Any word on how things might look when (if?) he’s back up at linebacker?
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
muschamp has been saying he’ll put him on the line, and drop him into coverage.
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 29, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Buck" is what texas calls their weakside defensive end
Many teams have many different terms to differentiate between their weakside and strongside ends (Razor, Bandit, Dog, Hero, etc). Some teams are now using “Jack” to describe their weakside DE, although that is more of a hybrid DE/OLB similar to what you’d see in the old 3-4 defensive scheme, except now added to an even front.
Responsibilities of the Buck: Kill the QB, kill the running back on weakside runs, contain the outside, and generally wreak havoc and make life miserable for the opposing LT. You can use a Buck to drop into coverage on a zone blitz, but you’re also taking your best pass rusher out of the play on that one, which isn’t always advisable.
Last year, Brian Orakpo was the Buck, while Henry Melton was the strongside End.
by Beergut on Aug 28, 2009 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sub B
What?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Aug 27, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is just the first draft...
Geez…I would have hated to see you guys looking over Billy Shakespeare’s shoulder when he was cranking out some literary masterpieces!?! We have about two games to see how all of these “ORs” or players we are scratching our heads about are going to pan out. ULM has a decent secondary to provide a little test for some of the inexperienced receivers. Wyoming will be good practice to move players around for tinkering purposes. However, the only think I am concerned about is overplaying Shipley on Special Teams as I think there are other options for at least one of those spots with either Monroe, Chiles, or Collins. We need Shipley to have fresh legs going into OU, Mizzou, and OSU especially.
by Robertpz on Aug 28, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez…I would have hated to see you guys looking over Billy Shakespeare’s shoulder when he was cranking out some literary masterpieces!?!
So would he. Plagiarism is rarely a point of pride.
by burntorangehorn on Aug 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fan of Mel Gibson much?
From depth charts to Shakesperean literary conspiracies? Boy, I am sure ready for some football to start! Football conspiracies I am into (like Jerry Jones purposefully building a low scoreboard in order to get some cheap pub right off the bat to get his palace/stadium in the news for weeks). However, I will bow to BOH on William’s authenticity!
Hook ’em!
by Robertpz on Aug 28, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try to avoid being over anyones shoulder
When they are cranking out anything.
But yeah, first depth chart, first game. Im sure come OU the chart will look all sorts of different.
Can you tell how excited we are for football to finally start!?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 28, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Okafor
This guy has shown enough already not only to get playing time as a true freshman, but he is the primary backup at the weakside DE slot. The thing that amazes me is the lack of an OR and another player behind him.
by TexasGarcia37 on Aug 28, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Muschamp seemed impressed with him
the chart seems to reflect it
by notsofst on Aug 28, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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