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CFN has their Big 12 Outlook posted today.  Surprisingly, they have Texas as a three loss team.  Not only three loses, but three loses in a row.  Can you guess the losses?

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CFN Big 12 Picks

CFN picks Oklahoma, Missouri and Okie Light to beat the Horns in consecutive weeks and finish 3rd in the Big 12 South.  As I see it, the OU game is kind of a toss up right now, until we see how well our d-line is and their o-line is. 

Ok State has a highly touted team, with a decent receiving corps which is pretty much made up of Dez Bryant, a consistent QB in Zac Robinson and a good RB in Kendall Hunter, but their defense under Gundy has been pretty bad and they have a new D-Coordinator this year.  The key to beating Texas for Okie State is to get pressure on Colt and pressure is not their defensive bright spot not to mention the amount of experience Texas returns on the O-line.  However, Texas seems to have to come from behind in Stillwater and I guess that is why they picked Okie State to win.

The biggest problem I have is with the loss in Columbia.  New offensive coordinator, probably the best player in Mizzou history gone in Jeremy Maclin, breaking in a new QB this year with the loss of Chase Daniel, and the nations best tight end last year in Chase Coffman...Really?  That is a lot to lose on offense and lets just say that Mizzou is no USC.  They dont just reload, they have to rebuild.  Now onto the defense which lost 7 starters from a team that gave up tons of yards in the air.  This due, like Okie State, to the fact that they didnt really have a pass rush.  Giving Colt time to make a decision is killer on the defensive backs and, I mean, the guy did complete roughly 78% of his passes last year with a young line in front of him.  I just dont see Mizzou having enough to beat Texas even if the game is in Columbia.

I understand its just one websites view of how things will shake out in the Big 12, but it still boggles my mind as to how they came up with this conclusion.  I'm sure I have missed some things, so please let me know what you think.

 

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I’m optimistic about how Diet Oke will perform on the national level this way, but I’m becoming a little less concerned about whether they’ll threaten to beat UT. While they return their key three offensive playmakers, plus a pretty good offensive line, their defense will struggle against passing offenses. Sure they brought in Bill Young from Miami, but how quickly will the team improve on last year’s performance, especially when Young hasn’t seen these kinds of passing offenses on a regular basis? Also, they’re replacing Curtis Luper and Trooper Taylor. They damn near lost another couple of top assistants, too, so it’s not even as bad as it could have been. Understand that I do think Diet Oke is bound for a top-15 finish, possibly the Cotton or Holiday, but I think the loss of Pettigrew and a couple other guys and the combined turnover of the coaching staff will set them back just enough to where they won’t be able to get over both OU and Texas.

by burntorangehorn on Aug 7, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill Young was a KU coach 2 years ago.

So he has seen these offenses in the past 2-5 years. His KU teams were generally dominant against the run but susceptible to the pass. UT didn’t have much trouble running against his D in 2005.

by ajax77777 on Aug 9, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, that’s right. I do remember now. My gosh, anyone else remember Adarius Bowman’s monster day against that defense? I had a fantasy win in the bag that week, and he piled up what seemed like 300yds. and 3TDs receiver, or something like that.

by burntorangehorn on Aug 10, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

I’m with kirk on the absurdity of this. If – IF – Texas were to lose to OU, do you think we’d really come out flat against Mizzou? I could see Texas losing to Mizzou a lot easier if we won the OU game than Texas losing back to back. (Also Mizzou will be coming off a game with OSU, which may leave them bruised and battered against Texas). But last season the Tigers were as stacked as they have been in a while, and yet they were still shutout through the first half to Texas. There’s no way they pull the upset.

As for the two marquee games we have this season against the state of Oklahoma, I can’t see us bringing anything less than our best. That’s definitely our toughest 3 weeks of the season, but it’s also when depth, experience, and tenacity shows which team is really prepared to go all the way. Texas has the passion to sustain their fire through that 3 week stretch.

by TXinDC on Aug 7, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Strange...?

After reading CFN’s assumption of the 2009 season, I finally have figured out that College Football News is a room full of monkeys just clicking away on type-writers guessing at how each season will play out. If for some reason I am wrong and they guess right and Texas somehow let’s this season go to the toilet, I will most certainly apologize. However, this is the same room-o-monkeys who picked the ‘05 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM to go 8-5!!! Really CFN, really? I’ll concede and say that Stillwater and Dallas do scare me a little, but I also know are team is in another gear with the coaching staff that Mack has put in place. Finally Mack has made a commitment to surround himself and his players with phenomenal coaches. They’re is no reason to question our D-Line, ‘Backers, or Secondary. Muschamp is a great coach and we’ll have our D ready. And you can’t question any team with Colt McCoy at the helm. I’m excited for the season. I’m glad we get an early test from Tech to gauge where we are as a team. Let me know what ya think. Hook ’Em Horns and OU Sucks!!

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games."

-Will Muschamp

by HornsAPlenty on Aug 7, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actual looked and CFN had us...

going 8-3 in 05. Another sign that the and similarity with that magical season. Funny thing is they have us ranked 4th in their pre-season poll.

We're Texas...and you're NOT

by Bevoboy94 on Aug 7, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Okie Lite

has question marks at WR after Bryant, right?? Shut down Bryant and force Robinson to use his other WR’s. And with our secondary, I think Okie Lite will be in a dogfight. Granted it’s in Stillwater, but I like our chances.

As for Missouri, I just don’t see the Horns losing – with all of the personnel replacements PLUS Mack has never lost the game after an OU loss, correct?? No, I’m not saying the Horns will lose to OU, I’m just saying should that happen – no way, no how does Texas then lose to Missouri.

Missouri with all their supposed “fireworks” last year didn’t fare that well. So now with new starters at some key positions are going to beat Texas this year?!?! I don’t think so.

by Go Bevo on Aug 7, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Okie Lite has ? marks

After Bryant you have….. (crickets chirping)

Bo Bowling was dimissed from the team for drug posession during the winter, and Jeremy Broadway was dismissed last year as well from something unrelated i believe. Neither are on the roster for 2-a-days in Stillwater.

OSU Returning WR’s:

Demarcus Connor: Jr. 6’1" 200 lbs. 3 Rec for 48 Yards. 0 TD’s
Justin Blackmon: rFR 6’2" 195 lbs. Did not play last year.

Keys to beat OSU: Neautralize Dex Bryant, Stop the Run.

There’s no Pettigrew to sneak past on a screen this year. OSU also returns a defense that gave up an average of 53 points in 3 out of their last 4 games. I’m not as worried about this game as I am with Kansas.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Aug 9, 2009 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait a minute...

I’m sorry, can someone remind what Okie State’s big marquee win last year was? I mean if we’re supposed to be terrified of a team that built it’s reputation on a win against a four loss missouri team well then I don’t know what to say. This is still the same team that lost to Texas, got blown out by Tech and Oklahoma, and then capped it all off with a loss to Oregon.

Missouri, they lost to the ass hats mentioned above, at home! Not to mention a loss to Kansas, and beat downs by Texas and OU (sucks).

OU (Sucks) – a legitimate concern, but I’ll the Horns.

"When you hear that voice, it brings a kind of class to the game." ...Frank Okam

by briordan79 on Aug 7, 2009 10:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OSU had a good team

But ultimately, they fell short against Tech, Texas, and OU… you know, the games that are important in the Big 12 South. In that regard, they still have a lot to prove. Still, with a lot returning, including an experienced O-line, they are deserving of some attention.

by TheElusiveShadow on Aug 7, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The loss of TE Pettigrew isn't getting nearly enough play

Behind Gresham, Pettigrew was one of the biggest threats at TE last year. And so that’s one less target for Zac Robinson to look for. Triple team Dez and see what he does then!

by junglerules on Aug 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Put Thomas and Williams on Bryant, and go to work.

by burntorangehorn on Aug 7, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Same crap new year

What this tells me is that CFN is another lazy national publication that does no research. This reeks of writers who still think that Stoops owns Brown.

by TexasGarcia37 on Aug 7, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CFN Top 30 Big 12 players

More of the same BS from these guys: 10 Sooners, 4 good guys, 4 Cowboys, 4 Jayhawks and Darrell Scott at #17! I think drug testing would definitely be in order.

by Longhorn90 on Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One more thing

So rebuilding their offensive line when they lost 4 of 5 starters is no big deal for OU, but Texas replacing the two DTs we lost is a big deal. I guess OU is the only school between the two that can plug in quality backups. Poor little old us.

by TexasGarcia37 on Aug 7, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, they lost five starters on the offensive line. Trent Williams was an injury replacement for Braxton. And of course they also lost their original three starting receivers.

by burntorangehorn on Aug 7, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

word is

the coaches at OU are far more concerned about their WR’s than the Oline

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp

by Mulliganville on Aug 8, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another little tidbit from CFN...

Team That Will Disappoint
“Texas. Considering this is a national title-or-bust year after all the issues of last season, the potential is there for there to be a major letdown if things don’t go perfectly. Oklahoma is better, Oklahoma State has the firepower and maturity to pull off a win over the Longhorns, unlike last year, and going to Missouri could be a beartrap if the Red River Rivalry doesn’t go well. Oh sure, Texas will blow away at least seven teams on the slate, but when anything less than winning a Big 12 title and ending up in Pasadena in early January will be accepted, the pressure will be immense.”

The pressure is always immense. We’re Texas!

by kirk1005 on Aug 7, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Horshesh*t

this year Texas is the better team. period.

by TexasGarcia37 on Aug 7, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is just crazy.

OU? fine. That’s a toss-up. Mizzou? It’s their homecoming. Anything else to be worried about? No. OSU? The only thing that worries me is the bad karma we’ve been piling up by breaking their hearts year in, year out. It’s got to end at some point. Let’s just hope it isn’t this year.

As for pressure: This is largely the same team that handled intense pressure all last year. They’ll be fine.

Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.

by zamm on Aug 8, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know that

Thayer Evans is now at CFN….

by Wrangler86 on Aug 8, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a Pick Magazine

No writer that wants any cred is going to roll out there with a FL vs UT championship game. Anyone can pick the favorite, but only lucky bastards pick the upsets correctly- that’s what they’re going for here. And that’s okay.

Where I do take issue is the claim that “OU is the better team this year.” Obviously they weren’t the better team last year- what exactly has changed that makes the matchup OU +10.5 from last year’s event?

by Tackchevy on Aug 9, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I guess when you lose your whole OL and some WR’s that will make you better at OU,some of these writer’s don’t have the passion that a lot of fans have and don’t care too notice when they lose important positions on a team like the OL, were going to eat their LUNCH. BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

by cpabis on Aug 10, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OU vs TX

I posted this on the Crimson & Cream site and thought I’d get some Burnt Orange opinions:

Tackchevy—I guess that’s why they play the games and the polls/rankings change constantly throughout the season.

This is all from the Oklahoma side and you can throw back numbers, if you’d like. But I’m stating a case that we can cover that 10.5 point differential.

In the ’05 season, Oklahoma was 8-4, lost to Texas 45-12, and had 4 seniors on the line (Joseph, Chaisson, Bush, and Chester – 38 starts that season [max of 48 which equals 80%]). Remember, ’05 is when Vince Young won the Heisman.

Here’s the Games Start/Games Played for the ’05 season for the eventual starters of the ’06 season (Messner – 8/12, Robinson – 0/9, Cooper – 1/7, Simmons – 0/0, and Braxton – 4/10). As you can see, very little experience.

In the ‘06 season, wasn’t McCoy a stud Freshmen? His QB rating in the ’06 season was 161.8 and his QB rating in the ’08 season was 173.8—not much of a difference.

In the ’06 season, Texas still beat Oklahoma, but this time it was 28-10, 15 points better than the previous year.

With the inexperienced O-Line coming in to the ’09 season and seeing how the past has played out, I feel that we can change that and cover the 10+ point differential from last year.

I know we could throw out stats all day to make them say what we want to—but this is what I found…

by soxboys21 on Aug 17, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Correction

I meant to say, Vince Young was 2nd in the Heisman.

by soxboys21 on Aug 17, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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