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A Confession...

...this post might make some of you angry, it might make you upset, and it might even cause some of my closest friends to yell at me.  I can deal with it.  Ever since I wrote my Hyperizers column last week, I've needed to get something off my chest.  I've thought carefully about this statement, and I'm ok with putting this out there for public consumption.  As of right now, I'm officially more excited about basketball season than football season. 
 
This statement deserves immediate and substantive caveats, but I feel pretty strongly about this conviction...after the jump, I invite each of you to walk with me through this minefield.

Star-divide

Before we begin, I need to make a few housekeeping notes...first, I still plan on writing about the potential improvements to the Erwin Center atmosphere, but that will be postponed for a few weeks.   Second, I demand that each of you read this article over Avery Bradley, who has already been tabbed as a pre-season All-American.  Here is the money quote from the article:

"His makeup is all systems go, 100 percent of the time," said Garry Ward, who coached Bradley on the AAU circuit with the Northwest Panthers. "The same way Gary Payton played great defense and Dennis Johnson played great defense, Avery Bradley plays great defense. He doesn't know anything else. He just knows when he's on the floor, he's going to compete offensively and defensively.

"You see a lot of great, athletic players where you wonder as a coach or as a sportswriter or as a fan why that player can do anything he wants offensively, so why can't he do it defensively? Because they don't want to. Avery Bradley wants to. That's the difference. He wants to guard. He wants to compete."

Finally, the BON Basketball Headshed (Wiggins, PB, BigRoy, and myself) will be unleashing a massive Roundball Roundtable Discussion on all of you next week.  I really, really, really think each of you will enjoy it, and we'll have it up as soon as possible. 

Let's get back on track...


As I said, my previous statement deserves immediate and substantive caveats.  First and foremost, I dont think the basketball team will necessarily be more successful than the football team.  The difference is a bit more nuanced.  As the current football narrative revolves around a methodical march towards a Pasadena Showdown, the reality is that anything else will be considered a disappointment, especially considering the fallout of BYU's shocking upset over Oklahoma.  Basically, anything less than perfection over the next three months will effectively ruin the season, which eliminates the ability to enjoy each individual game outside of its overall purpose towards the expected narrative.  Rephrased another way, with Texas ranked second and probably favored to win every game the rest of the regular season, the individual games only represent the possibility of losing the narrative rather than the possibility of creating a more comprehensive or ambitious narrative.  From our lofty perch, it's Pasadena or bust, especially with the favorable schedule.  For all football fans, the destination matters more than the nature of the journey; in fact, the destination is ALL that matters.

Journey_medium

 Whoever wrote this obviously hasnt met a UT Football Fan...


 
On the flipside, the regular season for the basketball team simply provides a plethora of opportunities for this insanely deep and supremely talented team to sharpen its weapons for battle in March.  Even though the team will test its mettle against the titans of college basketball--UNC, Kansas, Michigan State, Pittsburgh--during the regular season, no single game can effectively "ruin" our season.  Texas will forge its ultimate identity over the course of the season, rather than trying to preserve the identity it acquired before the season.  To further the contrast with football, the difference with the basketball season is that the successes along the journey only indirectly connect with the ultimate destination; for example, a close loss to Michigan State might better prepare the basketball team for the postseason than a curbstomping of Texas State.  The converse cannot be said for the football team.  As fans, we can feel free to appreciate the moments and memories of each individual game, without worrying about its effect on the season.  

Big Conclusion

Even if you dont agree with me, I want each of you to realize that we are on the verge of witnessing something very special.  As I continue researching this team and the upcoming season, it is becoming readily apparent that Rick Barnes is holding the reins of a bonafide juggernaut.  Ever since I penned the Hyperizers post from last week, I cannot stop thinking about how this season--my last as a student--could trump each of its recent predecessors. 

Bottom Line--I absolutely think this will be a basketball season that we will all remember, but, even further and more importantly, it could potentially become a season that none of us will ever forget. 

Hook 'em!

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I fully agree with the premise of this article

What I cannot agree with is that last paragraph. Assuming you meant “ever” instead of “never”, then a season “we will all remember” already equals a season “none of us will ever forget.”

Still, a good post for damn near 2am.

I'm not sober.

by white rob on Sep 11, 2009 2:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Nice catch...

…just fixed that typo in the story.

It’s just one of those long nights…

by txtwstr7 on Sep 11, 2009 3:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but...

“I absolutely think this will be a basketball season that we will all remember, but, even further and more importantly, it could potentially become a season that none of us will ever forget. " still doesn’t make sense.

it’s sorta equivalent to “I think we could win 12 games this year, but, even further and more importantly, it could potentially become a season in which we win a dozen games.”

Not to be all douchey English language guy, but, well… I’m sort of a douchey English language guy.

I'm not sober.

by white rob on Sep 11, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it makes sense...

…but I definitely understand how it looks like a “six or half dozen” irrelevant distinction.

I’ll try to use a football analogy. I would classify the 2005 Rose Bowl as the former, and the 2006 Rose Bowl as the latter. I will always remember that we beat Michigan—and how we beat them—but it wont remain at the forefront of my consciousness twenty years from now. Vince and the championship team will.

Texas has had some very good basketball teams, but I think this one has the chance to be the team that immediately jumps and remains in your head when you discuss Texas basketball.

The distinction makes sense in my head, but I probably should have used different phrasing…

by txtwstr7 on Sep 11, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to side with twstr on this one...

The apparent incongruity of the remark actually makes it more powerful, I think.

I also think there’s some difference in the two halves of the statement. One example is the response about the Rose Bowls, but another might be, on today of all days, the way we deal with 9/11. In truth, we will all always remember it – we’ll be able to talk decades from now about where we were when it happened. But as a society, far too often, we’ve moved on, and, sadly, I’m not so sure we “will never forget” it. We are, often for better, and sometimes for worse, a “forgetful” nation in that respect…

anyway… not to derail the thread. I’m also really looking forward to this Horns basketball team – not too sure though that it’s more so than this football season. To have this level of anticipation for both… well, let’s embrace these times.

by Pflash on Sep 11, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even a huge college b-ball fan but...

I had a dream last night that I was at some pre-season UT exhibition, just introducing the fans to all the new players (Avery Bradley, J’Covan Brown, Jai Lucas, etc.). I was selected randomly to come down and play a quick 5 minute game as a guest player on the team. Needless to say, I’m as terrible at playing basketball as I have been (up to this point) at caring about it, so it was a big joke. The enjoyment, nonetheless, was still there.

I’m taking this as a premonition that I should be watching this team closely this year. I still blame it on you, txtwstr.

by TXinDC on Sep 11, 2009 3:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on, confess

You just wanna get back out there and do the Wabash Cannonball!

Still a Blaine Irby fan

by patienthornsfan on Sep 11, 2009 4:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Blasphemy

(I haven’t read the article yet)

by JohnsonUT on Sep 11, 2009 7:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whooooo!

This is going to be a great fall/winter. Bring on the hoops. Can’t wait for the Roundball Roundtable Discussion

It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.

by Speedway on Sep 11, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No offense...

but this is football time, freakin’ 1 game into the season. Hell, why not write an article about UT baseball while you’re at it?

BOOOOOOOOM MF!

by TNHorn on Sep 11, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

offense taken

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Sep 11, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're two months from tip-off...

…which I think is enough for a weekly article over basketball. That means that I’ll pen a grand total of 8 articles—that you can skip—before the season. Baseball doesnt really start until February, which is five months away…

I dont want to distract from the excitement of football, but I think it is possible to simultaneously get people excited about basketball.

No worries.

by txtwstr7 on Sep 11, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With you 100%

If you want to start a series on UT hoops right now, you’ve got a dedicated reader.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Sep 11, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I concur

I’m totally geeked

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Sep 11, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in

I'm not sober.

by white rob on Sep 11, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like it...

good to get the hoops talk going prior to January.

The really great thing about this year is that we have a chance at two titles. No reason not to be excited about both sports.

This IS Barnes’ year to make it happen. Good lord, has he brought in some talent or what?

by jimmer on Sep 11, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to be that guy

You know, the one who asks the really tough questions you probably haven’t prepared for and brings his own sources.

But I think I am.

How do you think this team, with its great assembly of pure talent, fits into the schema developed by Ketchum here (hat tip – Texastough)? Could we be looking at the equivalent of 2001 or 2002 football? Where will the “heart” come from on this team? Since a very large number of our contributors are apparently looking at the NBA next season, how much will they be willing to grind it out in those trap games on the road? Will they be content to throw up a shit ton of points and make some highlight reels when the defense gives it to them and to just flounder when they don’t?

I find it hard to become more excited about the B-Ball team this year for that reason. The football team has proven to me with an absolutely gutty 2008 season that they have all the heart in the world, and are going to be an incredibly fun team to watch. The basketball team, on the other hand, struggled mightily last year, was rarely enthralling, almost never played up to their potential, much less beyond it, and didn’t seem to have a handle on fundamental basketball, especially on the offensive end.

The problem with that is that this hoops team pretty much can’t exceed their talent level. They already look like one of the best teams in the country. I’m afraid that it’s going to be very hard to truly win over fans as you claim, and make this a season we’ll never forget. If we win the National Championship, it will certainly be memorable as our first crown, but if we only make the Final Four, will we look back to the TJ Ford era as more unforgettable? It seems like we’re running a bunch of hired mercenaries out there, and our star players will have no rapport with our fans, since they’ll almost all be first year players. That essentially leaves James and Pittman as the heart and soul of this team. If they don’t get the young studs to buy in, then we could be in for a much more talented version of last year’s hoops team.

Just a few things I lay awake at night thinking about…

by Horn Brain on Sep 11, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting take...

Ultimately though, I just don’t see it…

Part of it is Barnes. He’s not Mack. I don’t think anyone has ever seen his teams and thought of them as talented, but soft. This is not to disparage Mack, by the way, I think he’s truly a great man – that video of him, immediately after the Rose Bowl win, when he’s been completely vindicated as a coach, and has the opportunity to jam it down his critics’ throats, and one of his first thoughts is to urge his team to enjoy the moment, but NOT to let that be the best day of their lives… well, I still get chills. The thing is, both Mack and Barnes have great strengths and weaknesses, but their weaknesses are not at all the same.

The other thing (and this is all based of course on third and fourth-hand knowledge since I really and truly don’t know the young men, but bear with me here, I’m a fan on the internet…) is that the people on this team do not come off as “hired mercenaries” unwilling to “grind it out” or just looking for points and highlight reels. Although several may indeed not remain for more than a year, they seem, to me at least, to be completely bought in to bringing their best. The level of talent available makes that attitude imperative – if they don’t give everything they’ve got, or if they try copping some kind of prima donna attitude, Barnes has plenty of other options. I think the team itself has a prevailing mindset that I think would preclude that kind of behavior taking root. In short, I’m excited not only about the physical talent on this squad, but also about the mental toughness I think they’re going to show.

If I’m lying awake at night and thinking about this team, I can tell you it’s with a big smile on my face…

by Pflash on Sep 11, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree about the "mercenaries" bit.

Durant was a 1 year player, but I’d hardly call him a mercenary. TJ was only 2 years, but he damn sure wasn’t a mercenary. In fact, I’d say that those 2 guys have done more than any other players to shape the program into what it is today: a powerhouse.

If you’ve been watching the Open Run Videos on Texas360Now you can see what an integral part of this program Durant continues to be. I think guys like Bradley and Hamilton really want to be at Texas, and hopefully will follow Durant’s example of continuing to work out at Texas (and attending classes) after going pro.

by ctex80 on Sep 11, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Sep 11, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longhorn sports

If the sport has a Longhorn logo on the hat, helmet, jersey, t-shirt etc. and you want to tell me something interesting about them I’m all for reading it. It is Longhorn season year round. If they are here one or six years they still made a commitment to this school and I’m interested.

by b&g80 on Sep 11, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you don't have to listen...

…but as txtwstr7 points out, we’re only two months away from tip-off. Would you have said about the football posts two months ago? I think that’s part of becoming more than a football school. Why can’t we be both? As you can tell, I, too, am excited for the upcoming season.

by vy til i die on Sep 11, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the article, Twstr...

All that I have to say is December 19th baby! I can’t wait for the North Carolina game at Texas Stadium. I know we talked about it on some bball threads last year, but we seriuosly should get a BON tailgate party or something for the pregame…..any takers?

by SneezyBeltran on Sep 11, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've already got my tickets,

Row 2, Section C213. Can’t wait. If there’s a tailgate, I’m in.

by ctex80 on Sep 11, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with the "try me later" crowd...

Appreciate the passion but I don’t agree with your premise that this long awaited football season is meaningless or that only the destination matters. I’ve waited a long time for it, I plan to enjoy every day of it, and if Pasadena doesn’t happen for some reason, I don’t plan to give up on the team and move on to basketball. It’s probably only a college football thing…I seem to be able to split my attention between basketball and hockey ok (Pistons/Red Wings in my case). I’ll work on it. Next year maybe.

by utexas87 on Sep 11, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I don't think he was trying to infer you sould not care about football

It’s a different narrative, that’s all. The expectation with football is to make up for last season and go all the way to the MNC. The expectation with basketball is… well, we’ve got a great lot of players; can they bring it all together and go all the way?

For what it’s worth, I’ll appreciate both for what they each provide.

by TXinDC on Sep 11, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank You...

for your article and I look forward to the additional basketball articles. It could really be a special year. Everything I read on Bradley suggests that although only a freshman, he will be the the heart and leader of this team by the end of the year.

I am glad to see some basketball news (last article was in June). I have to go over to A Sea of Blue to get multiple basketball posts a day in the off season….although I am tired the Kentucky/Louisville soap opera.

Ford/Durant/Ivy/Aldridge/etc.’s commitment to the program and spending their summer in Austin has created a unique and special basketball environment at the University of Texas. I believe (or at least hopeful) that with the 2009 and 2010 recruiting classes, UT has a chance to go to the Final Four two years in a row. We seem to be on the verge of greatness. Maybe the 2010-2020 decade with be Texas chance to be a Michigan State/Duke like decade.

by IUTex on Sep 12, 2009 6:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kansas

One of the things that has me so psyched about this season is the rivalry with Kansas. They’ve got ungodly talent, deep tradition, and play a lot of common opponents. We’ll get them during the conference season, the conference tourney, and (maybe) the big dance. How great would it be to play them in the FInal Four?

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Sep 12, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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