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Postgame Celebration Thread: We Beat Penicillin!

Or Wyoming. Whatever. We won! This is good...

Names you need to know, if you don't already: Dan Buckner, Tre' Newton, Keenan Robinson. Much more later. For now, exchange reactions here, including all your thoughts for the late session, featuring USC at Ohio State. Postgame React later tonight or early tomorrow.

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We're turning into USC with how many running backs we have to use

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 12, 2009 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Tre Newton was impressive

Vince Young >Tim Tebow.

by PineypointG on Sep 12, 2009 6:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

WHEW!!!!!!!!

Damn that first half wore me out. This game really reminded me of Utep last year. Wyoming was fired up in that first half. I also liked what I saw from Newton. DJ Monroe was almost ineffective except the big kick return. Hook Em Horns

I even named my son Kolt.

by vivalonghorns05 on Sep 12, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Monroe inefeective

I think the reason he is ineffective is Greg Davis put’s together a “package” for him (reminds me of the Q package) If he isn’t going to be an every down back, DC’s will expect Monroe to get the ball everytime he is in the game. What do you think?

by Longhorn in MO on Sep 12, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Defense was lights out today. All 10 points came on special teams mistakes.

Phenomenal job handling Wyoming’s spread. All in all, I think it was a good game for us. The second half proved that this offense can operate the same as last year’s offense when it’s humming as Buckner, Kirkendoll and Chiles keep stepping it up. And the scare put into the boys this early in the season is probably a welcome development (well, in retrospect anyway, considering we ended up winning by 31).

I’m not too worried about Tech because of how well the defense played today. Plus it’s in Austin.

by billyzane on Sep 12, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, I would like

to see the defensive stats on this game.

On the other hand, I thought their Defensive front was in our backfield way too much. On one third down play, they rushed 3 and got to Colt to force the throw high in the back of the end zone. I had to listen to the second half on the radio though, so that is probably why I am so down on the offense. I never saw them do well.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Sep 12, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Oklahoma teams...

for screwing up our strength of schedule. This could be a huge story as this season unfolds with these early choke jobs by 2 teams we were depending on to bolster our already weak schedule.

I guess we better hope a team like Nebraska has an unexpected great season and goes into the big 12 title game with one loss or something like that. Or just hope we’re one of two undefeated teams left standing at the end.

by silky51 on Sep 12, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I still think SOS is irrelevant

If we are undefeated, then we’re in without question, after what happened last year. If we lose a game, we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 12, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

All things being equal

if we go undefeated were in due to being ranked high and the sympathy factor from last year. That being said USC must lose.

by mtntrance on Sep 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The media wants a game!

Freshman QB against Tebow? Not gonna happen. They want McCoy and Tebow…the game that shoulda happened last year. They want to settle it all then.

By the way, the UH-OSU game doesn’t count. Apparently its a rule now that if a team from the State of Texas beats a team from the State of Oklahoma 45-35…it doesn’t count. Weird. ;) I guess our SOS is still intact.

Anyways, we have to win out regardless. We are a better team than USC and I really don’t expect them to be at 1-2 in the polls come December. Stop worrying about things we CANNOT change. Its like pissing in the wind.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Sep 13, 2009 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

maaan...

I know my Texas is a second half team but c’mon. Why do you make sweat so much. I don’t like my heart beating like a dope head. Yes I might be a little tipsy but wow. I need some pizza.

by Javi on Sep 12, 2009 6:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Wyoming's D was good

Honestly I think we just wore them out. That team’s going to win some games. Go Bucks!

That and it seemed the thin air was messing with Colt’s accuracy. He was over/under throwing people all first half

by notsofst on Sep 12, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I liked how Kirk looked

Our O-line’s play concerns me. We can’t play like that against better teams.

As for RB, I was hoping for big things this year from McGee, but it looks like Newton might start taking some playing time away.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 12, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Mizzou

down 10-0 to Bowling Green

by hornaddict on Sep 12, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Man

After all those big wins last week, is this let down week for the Big 12?

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 12, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Patience

We knew Houston was a trap game for OSU. I’m a little weirded out, but definitely reserving judgement for later.

by The Mack Attack on Sep 12, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

noooo!

are all our big 12 opponents gonna crumble early in the season?!?!?!?

geeeez

by silky51 on Sep 12, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ohio State

The guy who just dotted the I had a camera following him…and proceeded to yell “Watch out!!!” to the camera man, only to ding the camera with his tuba while bowing nanoseconds later.

Looking for video.

by The Mack Attack on Sep 12, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Thoughts on the game...

THE FIRST HALF

Definitely didn’t put me in a good mood at all, although I realized by halftime that the defense was playing as well as could be expected. All ten Wyoming points came on short drives created by offensive mistakes. So, hats off to the defense for a great first half (and second half)

Where to begin with the offense? Colt was obviously having an off half. I noted that our two attempts at screen passes in the first half both failed to materialize, Colt was overthrowing receivers, pehaps due to the altitude, wind and temp…and perhaps a bit of rust. While Colt certainly deserves some of the blame for a terrible first half offensively, his drop-off in perfomance was complemented by the mediocre running game and the lack of creativity in the offensive play calls from Greg Davis. I’m no Greg Davis hater, but when our team has speed like that, you must get the ball moving vertically down the field on some slant routes and downfield passing plays.

The running game in the first half, while mildly acceptable, continued the trend of decent but not impressive gains by Vondrell McGee. More about him the second half.

I was unable to determine how much of the blame for the first half slow start went to the offensive line, but could definitely tell that something was up. Even with only three or four rushing, Wyoming was able to get penetration on Colt.

Kudos to Wyoming’s secondary and the twins from Dallas back there. They played an excellent first half and gave Colt no options. I’d love it if Colt never had to run the ball again, but it is a strength of our offense that Colt is able to advance the ball so well on broken plays and designed quarterback runs. He’s a tough kid and seems to be able to take the beating. We didn’t see much running out of him in the ULM game, but when it became necessary in this game, Colt stepped up and gained critical yardage.

THE SECOND HALF

I would not have wanted to be the offensive line during that halftime. I’m sure they got the wakeup call of their lives. I still felt confident that after the final scoring drive of the first half, Texas would come out guns blazing and take the game over. I was fortunately vindicated in this belief.

The hurry up offense works really well for us, especially against teams with a lower level of talent who need to out-scheme us to stop our progress. The offensive line still made plenty of mistakes in the second half, including false starts, critical holding penalites and allowing WAY too much penetration and pursuit of Colt. Colt’s legs fortunately got him out of a few potential sacks…like on the touchdown play to Buckner that is currently making the highlight reels.

The running game seemed to improve greatly when McGee was hobbled, although McGee cannot be faulted too much as he averaged over 5 yards a carry and advanced the ball all day. I still don’t see great vision or explosive speed from him and think that Texas needs to move the emphasis towards Tre Newton and D.J. Monroe for speed plays, with Cody Johnson taking the short yardage duties and Fozzy Whitaker filling in when he’s healthy. It’s not that there’s so much wrong with Vondrell, just that there’s so much right with the young’uns.

Way to go Greg Davis and Colt for getting more agressive with the passing game in the second half. It made all of the difference in the world. My confidence that Kirkendoll, Chiles and Buckner can make up for the loss of Quan Cosby continues to grow. Great TD plays for all three today! Still waiting for Williams to amaze me, physical specimen that he is.

The defense continued a stout performance in the second half. I enjoyed the play of Houston and Muckleroy. Acho continues to be a beast, perhaps becoming the great #2 guy that Kindle played opposite of Orakpo last season. Does anyone think that Kindle is underperforming, or is he instead drawing the heat and opening things up for Acho on the other side?

The secondary was awesome today. Keep it up guys. Would like to have seen Gideon and Thomas hold on to some of those potential INT’s, but they did a great job all day. This gives me great confidence going into the Texas Tech game next week.

OVERALL

We came to life at the very end of the first half and never let up, making what could have been a “hrmmm” type of game into an acceptable stomping. Colt again had a “pedestrian” 330 yard game (with some rushing to go with that), keeping him firmly in the lead of the Heisman race. Amazing to think of how well this guy plays on his off days. It’s also nice to know that Texas can play a terrible half offensively and still but up 41 points. If the defense plays as well as they did today, we’ll be in the hunt in every game this season.

Of course, looking at the upcoming schedule, we SHOULD be in every game this season. With the failures by OkieLite and the Dirt Burglers up north, it becomes even more critical that Texas go undefeated this year and “Leave No Doubt”. While I realize that the losses by the two aforementioned Oklahoma teams do nothing good for Texas, I do get a bit of pleasure out of their collective shaming and also breathe a little easier knowing that they have already showed such signs of weakness. This does mean that Texas may not have a game against a Top 10 team all year, though, unless someone from the Big XII North goes wild (i’m looking at you, Mizzou and Nebraska).

A final thought: looking at the stat sheet at halftime, I couldn’t help but notice that the game was a lot closer than the stats would indicate. I looked for any reason to resolve this paradox, and came to the conclusion that Texas was moving the ball, yet repeatedly failed on critical third down plays. Wyoming really stepped up in the first half on all of the big plays, and their intensity was enough to do the job. Texas was a bit un-excited for this game and I think it showed.

That’s all my thoughts from an obsessed fan…going to go swallow my pride and root for the Buckeyes now.

by brownf on Sep 12, 2009 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

First half

Big part of the problems with the offense in the first half were drops (I counted at least 4, including Chiles, Bucker and Kirkendoll) that I think frustrated Colt and got him out of sync. On the last drive of the half he went to Shipley for several plays in a row and got back on track (did you know they are roommates). This offense relies on the QB hitting 70+% of his passes and it any amout of drops can quickly turn it into a disaster.

Also several holding and false start penalties in the first half that killed drives.

by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newton

is a shining star for this game. The depth chart for this game not even has his name on it. Who would thought that he actually has more yardages than Cody and DJ?

I also would give a prop to Lamar Houston. Without his couple offside mistakes, he has done quite good for the D on this game. He was always able to pressure the QB and even knocked down the ball couple times. On the other hand, I don’t see Kindle making any great play. Hope, he is not injure or anything.

by Horns98 on Sep 12, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

OSU and USC tied at 7

Perilloux and JSU up on FSU 9-7 end of 3

by NeTexHorn on Sep 12, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

This was supposed to be it

But I think TES started a separate thread or something.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Sep 12, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't find the thread either

We can’t be the only ones watching this game.

by cj43 on Sep 12, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check the Fan Posts

Right column of the main page

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Sep 12, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry PB

Should have read this a little more closely.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 12, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

my Fanposts were not sorting with most recent

by mtntrance on Sep 12, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

anybody hear Mack Brown's postgame comments?

Or seen a transcript anywhere? Not that he’s likely to say anything about injuries, but . . .

by edsp on Sep 12, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

things we learned today

tre newton should start and vondrell mcgee should be benched. greg davis is still
an idiot. how many times in the 1st half did he call horizontal plays instead of down the field plays—a million??. the first half was painful to watch. can you imagine being
a heisman voter seeing that!! it was awful.
fred akers no longer coaches at wyoming or texas. there is a good reason why.
lou holtz campaign for ND is a dream in his own head that will never go away.

next saturday night should really be fun in our “big house”!!! and okie light OMG!!

ut1ou2 for texas-ou weekend

by ut1ou2 on Sep 12, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Davis

I’m no Davis apologist but I didn’t have a problem with his game plan. IMO it was all execution. WR’s had some serious drops on the first half, which I think contributed to McCoy being off. Plus all the drive killing holding and false start penalties.

by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could not disagree more

He was conservative and lateral in the first half. Until he had to hurry and get downfield in the 2 minute drill offense at the end of the half…. and then …lo and behold we moved the ball!

I hate how he has to be shoved into being aggressive.

I also put the lack of execution of the O-line and the ineptitudes of Vondy McGee out there. I am not saying it was all Greg’s fault by any means, but I just wish we were more aggressive. I would like to have a 21 point FIRST quarter.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Sep 12, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drops, poor throws and penalties

On the first half drives before the final drive (that ended in a touchdown) the offense had a total of 4 completed passes that went for less than 5 yards. That is in 7 drives. Over that same span were 10 incompletions (the majority of which would have covered 10+ yards), 4 penalties, a sack and an interception.

The numbers just aren’t supporting an overly conservative, lateral game plan. I’d have loved to have seen more shots downfield, but it was apparent by the middle of the first quarter that McCoy was off so they went to their bread and butter intermediate stuff.

by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could Greg Davis be? a point shaver

How else do you explain the systematic refusal to attempt anything aside from a lateral play for almost the entire first half? For every one WR screen or outside run from the shotgun that works there are half a dozen more that are a wash. Either Greg still has no idea how to read a defense and has to see what he’ll get sideline to sideline every week for an entire half, or he’s making book. Why not run from the I? Why only try for these confoundingly safe, yet all-or-nothing type of plays? The only upside is that the D was lights out and that not many voters probably actually saw this game, just the nice box score.

Oh, and Colt….son, I love you, but lay off the Dr. Pepper. Your arms look smaller this year, you’re staring down receivers, you’re not going through your progression (after all that off-season talk), and you’re taking to long to exploit the zone drop of the LB’s.

by KevinJ on Sep 14, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Help

I haven’t seen a play yet. No Versus at work today (any replays?) Web,tv,anything helps……….sound like I should be on the corner panhandling.Denver access if it makes a difference.Thanks in advance

by hunghorn on Sep 12, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Big 12 updates

Wild-Kitties come to life — KSU 15-14 over Lafayette, middle of the 4th
Tech 48-10 over Rice, late
Kansas over UTEP 27-0
Mizzouri-BG 20-20 middle of the 4th
Colorado losing badly, but Toledo points still being calculated

by edsp on Sep 12, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll take it. Defense was excellent; should have been a shutout

except for some inexplicable special teams screwups. Our depth exacted a dear toll on Wyoming. Gotta love the arsenal of receivers. Offensive line remains a work in progress.

I'll never forget ol' what's-his-name.

by Horntod on Sep 12, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Colt running

It seems like the coaches have been telling Colt not to run the last few games. I think they finally told him to run free toward the end of the first half, and he got back into his comfort zone. The coaches were trying to play the first two games VERY conservative so they don’t show anything or get anybody hurt. We will see the real Texas team against TT.

The defense played good, but I still didn’t like the pass rush. I think the defense is playing conservative as well and Wyoming throws a lot of quick passes.

My vote is for Newton with a mixture of Fozzy/McGee/Monroe. The coaches made it too obvious when Monroe was in the game. Just because Monroe is in the game doesn’t mean you have to give it to him every time!

by Longhorns84 on Sep 12, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions  

"Just because Monroe is in the game doesn't mean you have to give it to him every time!"

^Devin Hester Syndrome

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 12, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can't block...

That’s why he’s not in more often, kinda limits your options in the passing game if you have a RB that can’t pick up the blitz

by 40AS on Sep 12, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Put him in motion

and fake the handoff to him. They did it in the LA Monroe game and it resulted in a TD to Chiles.

If the only reason for not playing him was because he couldn’t pick up the blitz, then why do we go with an empty backfield so often? (This is directed more at Mack/Davis than you).

by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

My thoughts:

Wyoming did a great job, and while they didn’t win, they should be proud of how they played. They were overmatched, but they didn’t let it show until the difference in depth chart showed itself when the starters wore down.

Texas faced some adversity, which was nice. Practice not folding when the cards are looking a bit unfavorable.

Tre Newton and James Kirkendoll were nice contributors today. While Buckner and a few others had nice games, those guys did far more than I expected. It will be nice to see this offense grow as the season progresses.

McGee started growing on me. It’s too bad about that injury.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 12, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Totally agree with this...

….but I also have to say that our OL looked pretty sorry considering their competition.

by KevinJ on Sep 14, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kirkendoll had 7 receptions...

….for 102 yards. He was our biggest contributor.

Tre Newton had a really big game for us.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Sep 12, 2009 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

My pennies

I think the best thing I saw from Newton was the blocks he got. When he was left in the backfield, he found the block quickly and then took care of whoever he had to. Also, i think Colt has a designed run up the middle, and he followed Newton who got a good block to get Colt a few more yards.

2nd. I would like to see the stats of how often Malcolm Williams was on the field for the offense. I think I remember 1 catch and also 1 ball McCoy threw over his head. I havent seen him on any 4 or 5 wr sets this week or last. Chiles is always on the outside. We know he is healthy, he fielded one of our punts at Wyomings 6 inch line, so, why is he not on the field destroying secondaries?

Last: Last week, we gave the ball to ULM inside our 10 yard line, and they get 3. This week, Tucker gave the cowboys the ball at our 14 and then the officials gave them an extra 7 yards after Chykie was caught waving at his mom. The offense still only got 3. There wasnt much heard about Sergio, but, I can remember a few times that he got to the QB right after a pass and they had to get some shovels to find the QB. I think this contributed to the non-existance of offense later in the game, the fear of Kindle sending some cowboys to the center of the earth.

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 12, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions  

M Williams

2 catches for 15 yards, with a long of 11. 1 other pass thrown his way.

2 KO returns for a total of 61 yards (KO’s this year have been pretty impressive between him and DJ Monroe).

by Horncasting on Sep 12, 2009 11:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Eating Happy Pie

Is not what OSU is doing today. Am I crazy or does this season seem like it is going to be a wild ride?

by chilimilkjones on Sep 13, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

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