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Way back when, I thought Matt Leinart was just a spoiled prick when he proclaimed that "the better team lost" after 41-38 proved that incorrect. But I just noticed Joe McKnight's quote after the recent USC loss to Washington: "Washington wasn’t the better team. They just outplayed us."

This is what makes Pete Carroll's teams tick. He's got them so brainwashed that they can't even accept the reality that losing demonstrates that the other team is better in almost every situation. I guess it's a motivational technique, but at the same time I have to wonder if Pete isn't just too caught up in his own hoopla.

Oh well, at least McKnight followed up with, "But hard work beats athleticism any day." Maybe he'll be ok...

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USC is always the better team...

What a joke – the irony! You mention Matt’s comment, yet you claim the biggest head case in the NFL, Vince Young can’t handle not winning the Heisman, much less play a man’s game without folding emotionally. Joe spoke the truth, we will see where the team ends up in January.

by 1usctrojan on Sep 22, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Distroyed the worse defense in the Pete Carroll era....

decimated by injury, with most of the starters sidelined – Cush with a dislocated shoulder, and a true freshman, and the Ting brothers who went on to medial school, that was scraping the bottom of the reserves, lol. Yet, the horns won by a mere 3 points, Matt and our offense faced a much better defense than Vince faced, by a long shot. If all our starters were in, Vince would have been crying about that as well.

by 1usctrojan on Sep 23, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs a hug.

I won’t pretend to remember many from your roster, but come on, you had the great Scott Ware. The USC defense was very good that year. Granted, the year before was better, but it was no slouch.

Me thinks you’re just bitter. Or a troll. Or both.

by GoHorns on Sep 23, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's obviously a troll

but the community is taking pity on him for reasons known neither to science or art.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 23, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does the fact that we hoisted the crystal football mean anything?

But, I guess not, because according to the BCS, scoring more points than another team does not mean you beat them. Anyway, if the team was so decimated, and the defense that we faced was so much better than the defense that VY faced, then how does pretty boy Leinart get off saying “the better team lost”?

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 23, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When did he fold emotionally due to not winning the Heisman?

And what has he done to show that he’s “the biggest head case in the NFL”?

by burntorangehorn on Sep 22, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Garrett Gilbert folds like a stack of towels on a weekly basis, in that case.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 24, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious!

He actually took the time to sign up for an account just to defend his precious USC, but he didn’t even do that! All he did was take a shot at Vince Young, who isn’t even a part of the discussion! LOL. Just like a kid — he has no defense, so instead he’ll just insult you with something else. Oh brotha.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 22, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC

I think with the talent USC should have won..Washington did not win any games last year!!! Carroll got outcoached, period.

by nyclonghorngal on Sep 22, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

THey don't have a quarterback!

Barkley is terrible and Corp is atrocious. That doesn’t mean they won’t be good in a year or two, in fact they will both probably have fine careers (Corp wherever he transfers to after this season). But, right now, USC is not an elite team in college football with those two signal callers as green as they are. Luckily, in the Pac 10 they will probably coast to 10 wins.

If Cal doesn’t beat them this year, they never will.

by the1austin on Sep 22, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

I can count the number of games Washington won last year on one hand fist.

by The Mack Attack on Sep 22, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC has problems like this regularly...

Stanford, Oregon(s), UCLA, now Washington. The program is top notch. But they stumble against teams that perhaps they should never stumble against. I mean, if it based on draft picks, USC should never lose. But they are kids and kids make mistakes at times. The young QB situation is more problematic than USC fan wants to admit.

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp

by Mulliganville on Sep 22, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Miami should’ve won the national championship almost every championship for about a solid decade.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 22, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can any recruit who seriously wants a NC look at USC?

They were so loaded ‘03-’06 but with deep integrity issues. Carroll goes braindead year to year and consistantly lays an egg against subpar talent.

They are becoming the hoaxters of the NCAA. I don’t see Barkley as a USC kind of kid and I look for him to transfer before it’s all said and done. No jk. Urban Myers already has that road of sedition paved from L.A. to Gainseville.

by orangetower on Sep 22, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least they show up in bowls, even if they don’t show up against former cellar-dwellers like Stanford and Washington. tOSU and OUsux are the opposite.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 22, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

disagree

Barkley screams USC. There was a bio on him on one of the gameday sets and he has dreamed of being the QB at USC since he was a little kid. He’s not going anywhere.

by GoHorns on Sep 22, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way Barkley transfers

You kidding me? A lock to be a 3 year starter and be fawned over by the national media daily for essentially doing nothing? The kid beat San Jose State and handed the ball off en route to a win against Ohio State and he was proclaimed the next Montana. No way does he give up a year to transfer. The kid will be a first rounder in three years once he declares after his junior year.

by the1austin on Sep 22, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every 5 Star that comes out of

Mater Dei High School goes to USC. It is their training ground.

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp

by Mulliganville on Sep 22, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Far be it for me to defend USC...

…but I really hope this was all just a facetious statement. If not…

How can any recruit who seriously wants a NC look at USC?

Because…this decade, they’ve won an AP Championship + a BCS Championship, and also played for another one? Because the only other schools to have played for at least three championships this decade are Oklahoma and Ohio State? Because the only other schools to have won two championships this decade are Florida and LSU? Because of history (11 national titles) or tradition (7 Heismans)? Because they’re the flagship school of one of the biggest states (and of one of the biggest cities) in the United States? Because they churn out pro prospects thanks to a pro-style system that’s slowly dying in college football? Because they have a coach who really seems like one of college football’s “good guys”? Should I keep going?

They were so loaded ‘03-’06 but with deep integrity issues.

Uhh, no. As far as I can recall, they had two major incidents. One was Dwayne Jarrett living with Matt Leinart with Leinart’s dad paying the rent; that was cleared up as Jarrett repaid the Leinart family for staying. The other was the Reggie Bush saga, which as we all know was researched ad nauseum by Yahoo but has gotten no traction with the NCAA. Nevertheless, one bad apple does not constitute a rotten bushel.

Carroll goes braindead year to year and consistantly lays an egg against subpar talent.

Yes, he does. So do other preeminent teams in the country; for a clear example, witness Texas against K-State and A&M. In fact, the last two champions lost to Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Arkansas. Not exactly world beaters there.

They are becoming the hoaxters of the NCAA.

If by hoaxter you mean winning a conference championship and a BCS bowl every year, then damn, I wish we were hoaxters too.

I don’t see Barkley as a USC kind of kid and I look for him to transfer before it’s all said and done. No jk.

I don’t even know if you mean "no, just kidding" or "no, I’m not kidding." In any case, Barkley, in the words of Detective Greenly, is goin f*ckin nowhere. Dude is likely starting in USC for four years, likely a Heisman finalist, and likely going to see multiple Rose Bowls and/or Championship games. And yes, I would take a bet on this, simply based on the way he fixed his hair for his Ohio State postgame interview.

Urban Myers already has that road of sedition paved from L.A. to Gainseville.

Who is this Urban Myers you speak of? Is he related to <a href=">John Myers? Just kidding. Wasn’t the only transfer to make this trek was Emmanuel Moody (he of the "God tells me to do things" mindset)? Doesn’t Urban Meyer have quarterback of the future John Brantley at his disposal? I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.

Sorry if I’m being overly critical. Since my brother went to USC (and got us tickets to the Greatest Game of All Time), I’m a little defensive of their program. I’m not above criticizing them for things they fail to do (like lay eggs following a big win), but I am critical of these willy-nilly posts that make USC out to be a hack program.

by jc25 on Sep 23, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

HA, HA, HA....Gobble, Gobble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCCpRfB5aUU

Every once in a while it’s fun to put something far enough out there to pull the sympathizers out of their crags. :-) You just gotta talk their language.

You got me on that spell check though.

by orangetower on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly those are good points, but I’d like to point out that USC, a private school, is not a flagship university.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 24, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't even get me started

on leinart’s comment post national championship game. I went off just the other day about that when a friend and I were watching the USC/Ohio St game and Barkley said that the toughest part of his first game was “running up the tunnel to the locker room at halftime”. USC really does seem to put out some really nice guys, but for their lack of sportsmanship.

by rchorns on Sep 22, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And I told my brother they were going to lose, too.

He was going to put a good chunk of change on USC, but I told him, don’t do it, this is the kind of game USC loses ALL THE TIME. And whaddaya know, they went and done it again. I’m a genius.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 22, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They usually lose to a low-end team with a gutsy quarterback and an unheralded-but-effective running game. I can’t remember which Oregon State QB beat ’em last season (Moeavo maybe?), but he toughed through it, and he played a lesser role than the previously-unknown ’Quizz did. But Locker definitely pulled together his guts and teammates, and Chris Polk was just strong enough carrying the ball to help drain the clock while clinging to that precious lead.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 24, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stanford, with Tavita Pritchard (since replaced by wonderboy Luck) and Toby Gerhart, also fit this bill. I don’t remember who the fourth team was.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 24, 2009 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A dissentimg view

I’ve noticed that there are quite a few Longhorn fans who seem a bit too obsessed with a team which hasn’t defeated us in 42 years. I doubt this post would have ever appeared on a Horns-related site had the team in question been, say, Florida or Ohio State.

(That being said, I enjoy a well-written smackdown of an obnoxious troll as much as anyone.)

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 24, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

USC is neither here nor there

for me. I just remember Leinart’s poor-sportiness casting a brief shadow over the good memories of early 2006 and when I read McKnight’s comments I had a flash that it might be a systemic problem for USC rather than just a personal one for Leinart. I can’t vouch for the rest of these knuckleheads, though…

Your Man In the Balkans

by Kahuna on Sep 25, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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