Pin The Teams On The Ballot: Blog Poll Week 4
On several occasions I have whined and moaned about casting early-season ballots in the Blog Poll, even going so far as to shoot Brian a note last year expressing that I'm whiny and moan-y about it and why can't he scrap the damn thing until we've seen more football since we all know early polls are evil and foolish and bad-bad-bad. To which he replies something about it being naive to think a fledgling blogger poll that is striving to reach a broader audience can make a mid-season debut. And to which I curtly reply as a PRINCIPLED VOTER HEAR ME ROAR that the only way we can... okay, he's right.
I dropped my objections, moved on and, when the 2009 poll made its preseason and week one debuts, dutifully filed my best-guess power-pollin' ballots. And then the Week 1 Blog Poll came out and Brian had to explain why he had spiked from the poll a purposefully outrageous ballot:
Anyway… yes, spiked. It's kind of smug to make some sort of point about how no one really knows anything after week one, isn't it? It's doubly so when the poll doesn't require anyone to submit a ballot until after week three. Maybe you're taking the polling thing a little too seriously if you can't just wait, Che. No stunt ballots. (DocSat ballots and other pure resume ballots are not stunt ballots, they're deeply neurotic ballots.)
So before you ask why on my ballot [DELTA = 26 - RANK], I've highlighted in bold the reason for my two-week silence. It's a sensible compromise by Brian -- allowing interested parties to spin the wheel and disinterested parties the opportunity to sit it out until some football's been played. Works for me...
After the jump, a massive chart to provide some statistical context to teams, followed by this week's ballot.
Though I've watched a lot of football over the past three weeks, I've not spent much time thinking about rankings, so before diving into the balloting I compiled a rough-and-dirty guide to help give me a sense of how the teams I'm considering have been faring. Below I've charted teams by points scored and allowed per game (national rank in parentheses), followed by the team's national rankings in third down defense, yards per play gained, yards per play allowed, and strength of schedule as measured by Sagarin.
The chart below includes only the 34 teams I thought to write down when I went through the various stats pages, so if you're curious about the statistical numbers of a team I haven't included, follow the links above. The teams are not charted in the order by which I decided to rank them.
| TEAM | Scoring Off | Scoring Def | 3rd Down Def | Yards/Play Off | Yards/Play Def | SOS |
| Alabama | 40.5 (9) | 13.0 (13) | 9 | 8 | 3 | 70 |
| Texas | 49.5 (1) | 15.2 (23) | 4 | 22 | 5 | 101 |
| Florida | 45.5 (2) | 7.3 (4) | 15 | 2 | 2 | 95 |
| Va Tech | 30.8 (44) | 16.5 (28) | 17 | 55 | 45 | 4 |
| Cincinnati | 43.4 (5) | 14.0 (16) | 70 | 3 | 23 | 84 |
| Boise St | 41.8 (7) | 14.0 (16) | 36 | 8 | 26 | 48 |
| LSU | 28.8 (53) | 11.5 (8) | 83 | 79 | 26 | 48 |
| Houston | 43.0 (6) | 23.3 (61) | 113 | 16 | 61 | 79 |
| Iowa | 25.0 (75) | 11.5 (8) | 57 | 79 | 38 | 5 |
| USC | 25.5 (55) | 10.0 (5) | 17 | 8 | 3 | 36 |
| Kansas | 40.5 (9) | 13.5 (14) | 14 | 19 | 45 | 150 |
| Ohio St | 28.5 (55) | 11.7 (3) | 75 | 51 | 21 | 42 |
| Oklahoma | 40.7 (8) | 4.7 (1) | 25 | 26 | 1 | 81 |
| Okie St | 39.0 (12) | 21.3 (44) | 30 | 22 | 38 | 104 |
| Missouri | 36.8 (20) | 15.5 (25) | 79 | 29 | 38 | 91 |
| Nebraska | 39.3 (11) | 7.0 (3) | 53 | 5 | 23 | 78 |
| California | 37.3 (18) | 20.8 (42) | 46 | 29 | 38 | 28 |
| Oregon | 29.8 (49) | 20.5 (38) | 39 | 74 | 16 | 3 |
| UCLA | 25.0 (75) | 12.7 (12) | 11 | 93 | 5 | 62 |
| Arizona | 26.8 (66) | 20.5 (38) | 81 | 35 | 30 | 21 |
| TCU | 33.3 (29) | 15.0 (21) | 28 | 29 | 11 | 47 |
| Auburn | 45.3 (3) | 24.3 (69) | 90 | 5 | 30 | 107 |
| South Car. | 24.5 (81) | 17.5 (31) | 49 | 70 | 16 | 24 |
| Michigan | 37.5 (16) | 22.8 (58) | 51 | 35 | 80 | 105 |
| Notre Dame | 31.5 (40) | 22.3 (50) | 66 | 28 | 103 | 29 |
| NC State | 37.8 (14) | 14.8 (20) | 3 | 51 | 7 | 146 |
| South Florida | 37.8 (14) | 6.8 (2) | 1 | 11 | 16 | 131 |
| Georgia | 30.8 (44) | 29.8 (95) | 34 | 40 | 61 | 6 |
| Georgia Tech | 27.0 (65) | 21.0 (43) | 66 | 40 | 61 | 6 |
| Penn State | 25.0 (75) | 10.3 (6) | 21 | 55 | 11 | 83 |
| Ole Miss | 35.7 (24) | 12.0 (10) | 6 | 48 | 16 | 117 |
| Miami (FL) | 26.0 (72) | 27.3 (84) | 72 | 35 | 68 | 1 |
| BYU | 34.5 (26) | 23.3 (61) | 104 | 19 | 61 | 20 |
THE TOP THREE
1. Florida -- Alabama is the sexy pick this week, but while Greg McElroy (Southlake Carroll HS) is coming into his own, unless the concussion takes out Tebow, I at this point still like the Gators better at quarterback and, yes, defense. One gets the feeling the Gators are just warming up.
2. Texas -- The Miners are a bad football team, but I'm not sure I've ever seen so thoroughly lopsided a boxscore as Texas' 64-7 win over UTEP on Saturday. Like Florida, the Longhorns are just getting started; with the nation's best special teams unit, and a deep, physical, and smart defense realizing its destructive potential, it's not a stretch to think Texas could win the Big 12 with a freshman quarterback. The senior they've got earns them the #2 spot.
3. Alabama -- I haven't seen BZ's media hype curve for this week yet, but I'm fully expecting the 'Bama buzz to make an appearance. Rightfully so, as the Tide have probably looked the best through the early going, with the offense (learn the name: Trent Richardson) catching up to what we knew would be a stout defense. While the nation obsesses over Tebow's health status, Tide fans must fret about the season-ending injury to the exceptional Dont'a Hightower.
YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE
4. Virginia Tech -- I honestly have no idea how to sort out the next grouping of teams and I won't quibble with anyone who prefers a different ordering. The Hokies' defensive excellence against Nebraska and Miami nudge them up my ballot for now, but I remind the readership that Tyrod Taylor is completing 47% of his passes. My confidence in this team is low.
5. Southern Cal -- Perhaps the most enigmatic of them all, the Trojans should have won at Washington (red zone turnovers) and should have lost at Ohio State (Jim Tressel's existence). Nevertheless, among this grouping, USC seems to me the team most likely to be excellent by year's end; at least this early in the year, with the ballot still tilting towards power poll, the Trojans get a higher ranking than their on-field performance might suggest.
6. Oklahoma -- I apologize for writing about this grouping like it's a big game coached by Bob Stoops -- slight variations on the same story -- but I'm not sure we can at this point say anything definitive about this Sooners team. If they win their next two (at Miami, versus Texas in the Cotton Bowl), they'll be legitimate national title contenders.
7. TCU -- The Cougars and Broncos are getting more love, but Gary Patterson has quietly put together another strong football team perfectly capable of beating up BCS schools. Andy Dalton has turned a corner, and if they can develop their running game a bit more the defense is strong enough for the Frogs to win out.
8. Houston -- The wins at Oklahoma State and versus Texas Tech are outstanding, but the defense is a big problem. Keenum's an entertaining player to watch, that's for sure.
9. Cincinnati -- Hello, Token Big East favorite. You look pretty good and have a comfortable path to your conference title, but nonetheless will lose a game or two along the way, finishing in the Top 10 after winning the BCS Bowl in which nobody thinks you deserve to play. Goodbye.
10. Iowa -- The offense is a delight to watch, but I'm not sure the Hawkeyes have the offense to win the shootouts of Big 10 conference play.
Okay I'm losing my fracking mind trying to talk meaningfully about this. "But PB, that's why you must rank strictly by resume!" Thank you, Helpful Reader, that would be lovely, only we haven't many games by which to figure out how to weight the wins and losses. How bad was Oklahoma State's loss to Houston? Two weeks later, is it even a bad loss?
Wins and margins and all the rest help a lot more today than they did after week one, and will more and more with each passing week, but it's still too early to draw many conclusions about most of the teams. That's true every year, of course, but seems particularly challenging this year when four weeks in fans keep comparing it to the schizophrenic 2007 season.
Ballot is below. Your help is welcome in the comments. I probably won't argue with you. Let's talk in November?
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| Rank | Team | |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Florida | |
| 2 | Texas | |
| 3 | Alabama | |
| 4 | Virginia Tech | |
| 5 | Southern Cal | |
| 6 | Oklahoma | |
| 7 | TCU | |
| 8 | Houston | |
| 9 | Cincinnati | |
| 10 | Iowa | |
| 11 | LSU | |
| 12 | Ohio State | |
| 13 | Kansas | |
| 14 | Boise State | |
| 15 | Oklahoma State | |
| 16 | Miami (Florida) | |
| 17 | Nebraska | |
| 18 | Penn State | |
| 19 | Missouri | |
| 20 | Oregon | |
| 21 | California | |
| 22 | Mississippi | |
| 23 | Georgia | |
| 24 | Brigham Young | |
| 25 | Michigan | |
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Iowa
Is that “the defense is a delight to watch”?
I like your vote to put them in the top 10. Iowa has been there or thereabouts for years but just never seem to be able to put it all together. But to me, the Big 10 is having a down year. Iowa has already beaten the pre-season favorite. Ohio State certainly looks beatable, and I’m not drinking the Michigan kool aid (and they get the Wolverines at home). This season may all come down to the visit to Columbus on November 14th and I don’t think it’s out of the question this Iowa D shuts Terrelle Pryor down for an upset win and a trip to the Rose Bowl.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Sep 29, 2009 1:56 AM CDT reply actions
Nah
Is that "the defense is a delight to watch"?
Was just indicating that I was done talking about this seriously…
You ain't hurt.
Southern Cal at 5 and Oklahoma at 6 strikes me as unfair
…primarily to the undefeated teams still remaining. Also, losing to Washington should mean something god dammit.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 29, 2009 3:13 AM CDT reply actions
He says he is still in 'power poll' mode...
About the only way I can justify these early polls is if we use the power poll paradigm. Its hard for me to get too excited by September scores since many teams (see USC) are still trying to figure out their identity and other teams are playing cupcakes. Looking at USC’s past results it is hard to fathom them losing more than one other game this season. If they stay with their 1 loss they will be a top-5 team in December and even a second loss might not be enough to knock them out of the top 10 if this year plays out more like the 2007 season. It is too hard to rank teams this early based just on resume. To have any credibility you would have to have Houston at #1 and teams like Texas and Florida would be amongst the last of the undefeated teams and probably should also be behind one-loss VT and Oregon.
Once again
As our rep, you have a duty to vote for Texas. If you don’t, other voters will see you ranked Florida first and will think “if the UT guy doesn’t think his team is best, then why should I vote for them.” Right now, that might not matter much, but if you recall the discussion of the “narrative” it will be clear why it could be important later.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
No way...
He doesn’t have a vote as a Texas fan. He has a vote as a college football blogger. That’s like saying that Mack Brown has an obligation to vote for Texas (well, if the votes were public anyway) or that Kirk Bohls has an obligation to vote for Texas. If Peter thinks Texas is the #2 team, then he has an obligation to vote them #2.
Integrity points
Yes, you score integrity points by voting your heart. But my point was that as the BON representative, your vote may influence others. They may be saying, “that Peter guy sure was honest in ranking his team below Florida. So although I’m undecided, I guess I’ll follow his lead.” People expect fans to favor their teams. When they don’t it raises doubts,
That said, I will get off your case if you will do the following: when you finally flip (and you know you will), announce that you have done so and provide a detailed account of what made you originally rank Florida #1 and why you flipped. That might also influence other voters.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Thanks for the thoughts. Comments:
- USC seems ranked too highly
- LSU should be higher than USC. They beat Washington on the road and have won 2 conference games already.
- The gap between Nebraska and Virginia Tech seems a little large
- Why is TCU ahead of Houston?
Haha I bet if I posted my rankings I’d get a stampede of criticism. Kind of a thankless job, to be a pollster…
Thanks for the thoughts
Not a fun job, you’re right — especially early on in a season like this one when almost every team has looked bad at least once…
We’ll know more about LSU and USC this week, I think.
You ain't hurt.

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