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Will Muschamp To Tennessee?

Follow the maelstrom on Twitter if you want to give yourself a panic-induced hernia.

But let it pass, friends. Let it pass. I'm hearing Muschamp's staying put. I don't blame Tennessee for looking...

...and don't blame Muschamp for thinking it wise to stay where he is.

UPDATE 11:30 p.m. CST: Perusing the pay sites and talking to various people in the know, there's a consensus on the (real) UT side that Muschamp isn't interested. Nice to hear everyone on our side is, uh, hearing, the same things.

UPDATE by GoBR 6:00 a.m. CST: ESPN's Chris Low is reporting what several other sources have been saying since the news broke that Kiffin was leaving -- Muschamp is indeed a top target, if not the top target, for Tennessee. That's no surprise, as Muschamp's name has seemingly come up every time a major job has come open, even after the announcement that Muschamp will be the next head coach at Texas, but the interesting aspect of Low's report is that he says that Muschamp may speak with Tennessee on Wednesday. It sounds like pure speculation and Low doesn't cite any sources, making it unlikely that Muschamp does have a conversation scheduled with Tennessee.

The major question is this -- why would Muschamp leave the Texas job for Tennessee? The recruiting base for the Volunteers in Tennessee and regionally cannot even come close to comparing to the treasure trove of talent upon which Texas sits, all while taking advantage of state pride in the process. Not every star high school football player in Texas want to become a Longhorn, but it's safe to say that a majority are at least interested in the possibility. At best, moving to Knoxville would be a lateral move, despite Kevin Scarbinsky's assertion that good jobs in the SEC don't come open often, apparently meaning that Muschamp has to consider it simply because of the Tennessee's conference affiliation in a blatant bit of SEC homerism. But when a school doesn't have a strong in-state recruiting base and suffers from outsized expectations within the fanbase, is it really that great of a job?

Muschamp had a chance to take the job at Tennessee last year, but turned it down and has said all the right things to the media about being patient enough to wait until Mack Brown steps down to take over at Texas. The other UT didn't become a better job over the last year and now Texas has one of the best, if not the best, recruiting classes in the history of the program on the defensive side of the ball, with the possibility of adding the top two players in the country by ESPN.

Of course, Muschamp's statements may camoflouge some discontent behind the scenes, but the Texas head-coach-in-waiting is still so young and probably still has so much to learn from Brown in terms of recruiting, deaing with the media, and how to run a program that it just doesn't make sense for him to leave -- he may truly not be ready, at least not as ready as he could be several years from now. Moreoever, Coach Boom has said in the past that he considers Texas the best job in the country -- once again, possibly just an example of toeing the company line -- but the truth is that even if Texas isn't the best job in the country, what job is demonstrably better?

UPDATE 12:39 p.m. CST: Both Orangebloods.com ($) and InsideTexas.com ($) are reporting there is no Muschamp move. Time for Tennessee fans to move along. You can continue to follow the Kiffin story with constant updates at SBNation.com.

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This is getting as bad as Stoops

Everytime a head coaching job opens up Muschamp or Stoops is leaving….

" Answers -- Become Resources."
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by KWashburn on Jan 12, 2010 11:07 PM CST reply actions  

Wow

We just agreed on something

Alabama 37 Texas 21

by Peter Bean on Jan 12, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

and it's not as bad as I thought it would be.

Cheers!

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jan 13, 2010 3:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure doesnt stop them from bringing his name up with every new job

Changed my SBN user name from WoodrowWilson.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics

by Jon Woods on Jan 13, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

seems like....

Carroll vacating amid turmoil, Kiffin to questionable USC, Stoops to a post Kiffin Tennessee all smack of the same flavor. But I agree. Stoops isn’t moving. Maybe it’s time to lick their wounds and bring back Fullmer.

by orangetower on Jan 13, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope this is just a lot of smoke

I really think it is. WM is one of the main reasons we made it as far as we did. And he is the main reason I have so much hope for next season.

There was a Tennessee website that reported Tenn had offered and things “looked good” but those were shot down.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Jan 12, 2010 11:12 PM CST reply actions  

While I'm sure we'll all be upset and disappointed if Coach Boom were to leave,

let’s remember to keep out heads on straight. He has the right to do what he thinks is best for his career and family. I don’t want to see any longhorn fans lose their cool if worse comes to worse.

That said, I’m almost positive he stays.

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Jan 12, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

I am with you

If its best for WM and the family, then I would be happy for him.

I just don’t see him leaving “the best job in college football” as he called it a week ago.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Jan 12, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

BTW, your sig needs an update

Dogus hit a 3 against Texas-Pan American on 12/15/2009.

by Magnificent Bastard on Jan 13, 2010 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank you!

3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Jan 13, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

But he actually has ties to Auburn

And nothing to Tennessee, except generic SEC ties. As to your point: perhaps it’s just my opinion but that’s an extremely thin line. Does anyone really consider Tennessee to be notably better than Auburn? Vols are #8 in alltime wins, Auburn is 13th. 25 bowl wins vs. 20. 83 wins in the 2000’s vs. 88 for Auburn. Tennessee has a slight historical edge but hardly enough to definitively swing things. The only real reason I can see is not having a dominant in-state rival.

by the chairman211 on Jan 12, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

i mean, he had, what, 2 years at Auburn?

I’m not sure that’s a real strong tie there.

by billyzane on Jan 12, 2010 11:44 PM CST up reply actions  

He obviously agreed when he turned down the job

I think the “previous connection” angles tend to get overblown a bit when discussing vacancies. That was a big part of Del Rio and Jeff Fisher to USC rumors, as they both had ties. It certainly doesn’t hurt to have them, but is JDR going to give up $15 million to take the job? Apparently not. That said, I think it applies in this case since you have two very similar job openings, one where Boom has some ties in place and one where he doesn’t. If he turned down the former I see no reason to choose the latter.

by the chairman211 on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was 1 year....

Either way, he has stronger ties to Texas, so he should stay.

" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...

by KWashburn on Jan 13, 2010 2:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Just saw this on Twitter. I hope it's BS

Muschamp in at UT if $$ can be agreed upon. Possible press conference tomorrow. UT already losing some recruits.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

haha

I just have to laugh…who said that?

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Jan 12, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously...

There are two UTs in this conversation (albeit that Texas is the REAL UT)….please differentiate. Like, Texas will be UT and Tennessee will be ut. Or something like that :D

by ElMariachiLoco on Jan 13, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

We could be tUT

and follow tOSU… we’re THE UT

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Tennessee was a school before Texas was a state

And you are welcome for Tennessee sending 4x the amount of VOLUNTEERS requested to help fight along side your guys.

C’mon, let us have Muschamp! What if we send you Ashley Judd in return?

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

Interesting.

What if we upped the offer to Ashley Judd, the Predators, and the rights to Vince Young?

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

AND...

24 mason jars of the finest peach moonshine from my family’s farm in Sumner County?

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

How about if we give you Greg Davis instead

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

DUDE

Ashley Judd may live in Tennessee but she totally belongs to the University of Kentucky. Keep your grubby paws off.

by jc25 on Jan 13, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

OK

What about Carrie Underwood?

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm confused

Is the deal that you’ll make her go away and/or stop singing? If so, then done.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

This. Again.

boh on a roll today.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Um, if you don't want Carrie, please, send her my way

"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com

by Hopkins Horn on Jan 13, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh no you don't

She’s on my list. Not ashamed to admit it.

Of course, she’s not the one from my list who I saw, in a bikini, ten feet away from me at the pool . . . while I was on my honeymoon. Now that’s bad luck!

"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com

by Hopkins Horn on Jan 13, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We also produce

Strawberry, apple and orange, but peach is the best in my opinion.

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

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by jc25 on Jan 13, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a quick question tho

I saw this on UTn website…can they also have trademark “UT”?

https://my.tennessee.edu/portal/page?pageid=34,43038&dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

I just googled university of tennessee and trademark, and the popped up

COACH BOOM BABY!!

by hookemkp on Jan 13, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

We already got what we wanted outta VY :)

"If you think you can be stopped, this isn't the place for you."

by austintexasbaby on Jan 13, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

oh i don't know...

if you can sneak a few extra years out of the ncaa for him, I’d love to have him back in burnt orange…

by Pflash on Jan 13, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

keep on dreaming

he’s already turned down 3+ head coaching jobs and will again. There’s not a head coaching job other then Texas that Muschamp will be interested in.

by Ryan2907 on Jan 13, 2010 2:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I doubt it.

While I think Tennessee is one of the few programs that Muschamp might think about leaving Texas for, we must remember that the circumstances here are TERRIBLE.

(1) Kiffin took his entire staff. Who would Muschamp hire? He’d either have to poach from other schools, and it’s getting late for that, or he’d have to go for lesser hires. Not ideal.
(2) There is a full-on rebellion at Tennessee among recruits and current players. He would have no idea who would be staying or going.
(3) I’m not sure Muschamp would be entirely enamored of the types of people (personality-wise) that Kiffin was recruiting.
(4) It’s freaking January 13th!

If Kiffin leaves next year and Texas isn’t in the national championship game, then maybe Muschamp takes a look. But in these specific circumstances? I just don’t think it makes sense…

by billyzane on Jan 12, 2010 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

Muschamp as head coach

Mike Leach as OC, Bud Foster (VaTech) as DC.

Perhaps I should lay off the ’shine until the sun goes down.

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

From @suzhalliburton

As of late tuesday, my source tells me there’s nothing to the muschamp to tenn rumor. Already turned them down once. #ut

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:29 PM CST reply actions  

I don't know

if I can go through this every year and every coaching vacancy until Brown leaves haha

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 12, 2010 11:35 PM CST reply actions  

I know

instead of doing something productive, I’m watching the Twitter streams. All the Vol fans want Will. That cracks me up.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Same here, Spin

it’s amazing how much attention you’ll pay to a scrub when they talk about something important to you

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Trust me it's a good thing.

If he’s wanted, that means he’s doing a hell of a job.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Jan 12, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet they go for cutcliffe.

has ties to the school and is doing quite well at Duke (and didn’t do half bad at Ole Miss).

by billyzane on Jan 12, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

If they wait a year they can get Pete Carroll

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 12, 2010 11:43 PM CST reply actions  

*Golf Clap*

Glad I wasn’t drinking a beverage when I read that. Bravo.

by the chairman211 on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions  

HA

That is funny. What a weird Silly Season we have upon us.

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Entertaining Side Note!

I’m not interested in bashing an 18 year old kid, I just find it entertaining. As we know, Ahmad Dixon committed to Texas, then switched to Baylor, then switched to Tennessee this past week. Now with Kiffin gone could he commit to his FOURTH team in less than a year? This could be a damn near unbreakable record.

by the chairman211 on Jan 12, 2010 11:45 PM CST reply actions  

Did I read somewhere that he called Muscahmp after he reneged on his Baylor commit and Muschamp basically told him Texas wasn’t interested?

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

On other topic

About Kiffin we had this talk.

He actually has a meeting with Alabama on friday too…..I don’t think I have ever seen a less ‘solid verbal’ in my life…

by Jhal2315 on Jan 12, 2010 11:46 PM CST reply actions  

Now I'm getting worried

Jeremyodellknox FYI – Muschamp to hold Press Conference tomorrow morning. Its confirmed.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:51 PM CST reply actions  

This guy could just be making it up to scare the hell out of us

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Same thing

I just saw too. I should probably log off twitter to preserve my own sanity

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

this guy seems like he has inside info.....

i mean, he IS a real-estate agent. they break sporting news all the time, right?

http://www.jeremyodell.com/

by billyzane on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It is if

he sold a house to Muschamp hahaha

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 12, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Gave a house, you mean

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

you’d be surprised. i used to be a real estate agent and had some interesting connections around campus. i did try to keep things on the down low though.

by MCrabtree on Jan 13, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon

Negotiating a multimillion dollar contract, with a buyout clause, incentives, benefits etc…in this time frame?

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

This late in the game

Tenn. could be handing him a blank check and letting him fill it in.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Jan 13, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Not quite that easy

Tennessee would likely want a multi-million dollar buyout on his contract (Kiffin’s was 900k). If they’re offering the official designate coach in waiting for the wealthiest football program in the country, they’ll want some reasonable assurance that he isn’t our coach in waiting while in Knoxville.

Muschamp on the other hand, as is the habit of most coaches, probably doesn’t want to be tied down. He’s been dealing with Deloss Dodds who makes it a point to never include a buyout in any contract on the theory that we’ll merely outbid any suitor a coach may have.

Length will also be a question mark for a Muschamp deal, with a lot of different motivations for all sides.

Also, it would be strange for Muschamp’s agent to allow the deal to consummate too quickly. Texas has the potential to bid up any offer he might receive.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Take it easy champ

Joke: something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; farce

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Jan 13, 2010 12:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Hah

Should’ve picked up it was a joke just because it was you rBr. Some of the natives have been in full meltdown mode though, to the point I’ve decided to start subscribing to closetojumping’s newsletter.

Also, I spent last semester studying the tax/labor implications of these types of contracts. There’s a lot of boiler plate, but some people think it’s the same as taking a job at Wendy’s. That’s only true for Texas A&M.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously, LOLs
some people think it’s the same as taking a job at Wendy’s. That’s only true for Texas A&M.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Jan 13, 2010 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be cool

but it looks like Muschamp, Gruden, and Nutt are the leading contenders

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 12, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

What are y'all's honest opinions of Leach?

Do you think he could recruit nationally as would be required at UT?

Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!

by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

If by UT, you mean Tennessee (which you shouldn't), then yes. At least on offense.

And really, he doesn’t even need to recruit that well on offense. He needs a decent o-line, a shifty RB, a QB with a pulse, and a bunch of fast WRs with good hands. They don’t have to be tall or be able to jump high or anything else. That’s it.

Where being at Tennessee would really help him is in getting defensive recruits. That was his trouble at Tech. It’s much easier to scheme around mediocre offensive talent than it is to scheme against mediocre defensive talent. If he gets the talent on defense, then he could be very good.

by billyzane on Jan 13, 2010 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, the WRs don't even need to be fast

Neither Amendola nor Welker was tall or fast. Filani and Johnson weren’t fast. It’s actually not all that necessary that they be fast so much as willing to learn the system. I would actually say that height is a bigger factor.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, Welker was recruited by Spike Dykes and only played 1 year for Leach. And regardless, he's very short.

Plus, Welker is, if not straight-ahead fast, then at least incredibly mobile.

Of the main WRs at tech this year, only a couple were WR-tall. Most were 6’ or 6’1".

by billyzane on Jan 13, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

They had a lot less success this year, though

Robert Johnson and Joel Filani were probably the most effective duo of any recruited by Leach, and they were both 6’2"ish, weren’t they?

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Hiring Leach should come with a series of caveats

He should be paired with a full time recruiter (an Ed O./Trooper Taylor type), if just for the defense. Also, a high quality defensive coordinator and staff should probably be hired for him with the instructions to just do their jobs don’t worry about the mad scientist.

Could he win a lot of games at Tenn? Certainly, but I think he’s clearly below Saban and Meyer. He would be a great stepping stone to right the ship while Tenn bides their time for a candidate to put them over the top. That would be a change of pace after recent events.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

In the event Will were to leave

Do we grab his buddy Kirby Smart or just grab whomever is DC at Auburn these days?

by andmyster on Jan 13, 2010 12:01 AM CST reply actions  

he already turned down UGA, his alma mater, after they offered to double his salary.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

okay.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

at times, this mantra becomes grating

more insulting than intelligent

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Jan 13, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

People put too much emphasis on the alma mater. Loyalty usually only goes as far as the dollar signs. Remember Stoops and Iowa?

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

we could quadruple whatever his salary is.

quintuple, whatever. we have a LOT of money. it’s quite unfair, but i’m not complaining.

by billyzane on Jan 13, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

hey, you can always put some of that national championship bonus money we saved you towards your next hire if you need it! :)

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 12:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Winner

end thread

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Jan 13, 2010 3:44 AM CST up reply actions  

That $400K is just spare change around Belmont. :-)

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that the right way to spell that? I haven’t used that phrase in years…

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Double his salary would've been $740K, IIRC

I’m not sure Texas would be willing to pay Kirby Smart more than that. Not for a non-HCIW.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 6:50 AM CST up reply actions  

and reports are that Alabama matched georgia's offer.

So you’re probably looking at a million dollar bid for starters if you were going to try. And like you said, you’re Texas. But we’re Alabama. :P

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

meh.

There’s certainly a question of whether it’s worth spending that much on a defensive coordinator, but if everyone concludes that it is, we can outbid you by a lot. We wouldn’t, in all likelihood, but I like knowing that we could.

by billyzane on Jan 13, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

It's always a plus

In a pinch, money can make up for a lack of other motivations to jump ship.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Y'all don't need to worry about this in this slightest

If Will Muschamp owns a television or has internet access, he can see the rioting going on in Knoxville. That sends up a red flag pretty quickly.

In the last five seasons, Texas has won one national championship, played for another, and had an argument for getting into the game on a third occasion. In the last five seasons, Tennessee has had two seven-loss seasons and one six-loss season. Lane Kiffin left that program worse than he found it, and Coach Muschamp knows the SEC well enough to know that.

In short, he can stick around and become the head coach at a program that is at the national championship level right now or he can bolt and become the head coach at a program that isn’t anywhere near the national championship level, but whose fans don’t realize that.

As a Georgia fan, I’d be worried if Coach Muschamp took over as the head coach at a rival program. My worry level that Tennessee could succeed in luring Coach Muschamp away from Texas is absolute zero. No chance he goes . . . none.

Also, andmyster, Kirby Smart’s not leaving Alabama for a defensive coordinator post. He just turned down a $750,000 offer from his alma mater, where his wife (also a native Georgian) played basketball. Coach Smart’s next move won’t be lateral.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 13, 2010 12:05 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Always good to hear from The Mayor

Alabama 37 Texas 21

by Peter Bean on Jan 13, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

God, I still feel for you Peter...

the avatar hurts my eyes… even more than the score.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Ouch

Kind of like drinking Scrubbing Bubbles.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

heh. The avatar/sig bet was my idea, thought I originally suggested that it last though the season opener. I guess that was considered too cruel.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Yea, if that was the case

we’d have to remove all the sharp objects from Peter’s home.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Spin,

are you from Beaumont?

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Zolt.

If we won, would this be your av-sig?

President Zoltar

Not your average Bear.

by TXStampede on Jan 13, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

what? Is that Putin? I don't get it.

Anyway, it would have been the editors of RBR that had to suffer through the bet.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Putin

is a total badass.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I taught several classes on Putin, his role, and his likely future

He’s pragmatic, but like all of our (US) presidents, he definitely puts up the hard line for purposes of ensuring his own country’s interests and maintaining the appearance of strength.

Oh, and people shoot journalists for him as a birthday present.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Well...

How can you be a Soviet Russian president and not be a hardliner? Or at least act to be.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Medvedev is much less of a hardliner

He’d be less of one than most of our post-Kennedy presidents, in fact. He’s definitely an authoritarian, but the Russian populace considers that almost a requirement. They accept authoritarian leadership because it’s what they know, and they consider it a desirable alternative to the Yeltsin school of leadership.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Well its easy to argue against the Yeltsin

Bending over and taking it up the Euro just doesn’t seem to appease many Russians.

Ok, now i want to play COD 6 again. Damn.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Vladmir or Boris

Which name sounds more deathly? Yeah, thought so.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

There's a joke among my co-workers

“Ras” or “raz” means “one,” when counting once, twice, thrice, etc.

“Dva” means “two.”

So the picture hanging on the wall was essentially what’s below.

Rasputin:

Dvaputin:

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If I was a graphic junkie

imagine him wearing a Crimson ‘A’ polo ala Saban. Now that would be a good one. The idea is Paul “Bear” Bryant and lying communist thug holding up #1. Not that I am inferring Mr. Bryant as one, mind you.

Or, how about this one…..maybe a little easier to comprehend.

bryant-a-and-m300
www.thesportgallery.com

by TXStampede on Jan 13, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

at least he's still wearing crimson'ish colors.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Pete try this on that sig, I swear it works on anything

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I never knew the source of that quote in your sig

Todd Snider ripped off Darryl Royal. Who would have thunk it?

"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com

by Hopkins Horn on Jan 13, 2010 5:49 AM CST up reply actions  

never heard todd play that one. what album is that from?

by MCrabtree on Jan 13, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Naw, Born/Raised/Live in Austin

Just a pseudonym

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

Haha

so that was you commenting on that ESPN Dallas article? I would have said the same thing if you hadn’t beat me to it

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Damn! I'm losing my stealthiness.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Haha

It was “spin” that gave it away

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Dallas Blog

http://bit.ly/8hs56n

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp only 38

So remember, even if he has to wait the full 8 years or so (which I don’t see it being that long) he would still only be in mid 40’s. So you could struggle in a mess of the SEC or wait for a bit (still making head coaching salary btw) and then spend 20 years dominating at a powerhouse school like UT.

Basically I’d be shocked if he ever went anywhere.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 12:35 AM CST reply actions  

Should we be worried about the remaining recruiting targets

that are on the fence, if any?

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:41 AM CST reply actions  

I think not

The recruits left are the big boys, and they know how to reach Muschamp directly. He can tell them exactly what’s up.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

True dat...

I just worry about their concern for Muschamp’s long term goals.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Like I said

He has said pretty quickly ‘no’ to some good jobs. His wife said she will divorce him (in jest) if they move again. His kid needs full time medical care that Austin is great at providin him. He is so young, how many 40 year old coaches get to start being a head coach at UT?

My guess is we go through this many times each year, but in the long run I can’t see his long term goals being anything but HC at UT.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree but

if they threw 3 big ones at him or something like that, it just might have him and his wife talking. I read that Tn is “aggressively” pursuing him, meaning, cha-ching.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

Anything's possible

But his alma mater (Georgia) offered him and a lot of cash and he said no.

He may have changed his tune and decided the waiting game isn’t for him, but for now I think the rumors are what they are…..just rumors.

On the other side, if he does leave us I’d say Hicks is definitely out (and prob going to tOSU since they are the only one with their coach’s left) and Jeffcoat has to decide what to do with his top 2 losing big coach’s as well.

My head hurts.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 1:03 AM CST reply actions  

Ha

Some Bozo already vandalized Will’s Wikipedia page by taking replacing Texas with Tenn. It’s already been repaired.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 1:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Ha ha

Yea I saw that.

Also heard Boom is having a press conference tomorrow morning. That’s probably a good thing. Way to early for their AD to get over the shock of what just happened and work out a big time contract.

Most likely this conference will be the same as it was last year when Boom said he wasn’t interested and to look someplace else.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 1:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey spinmonkey

Should we get a room or something?

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 1:40 AM CST reply actions  

Yea, I sensing a man-crush coming on.

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 2:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Should I

Remove all the sharp objects from your home….

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 3:06 AM CST up reply actions  

WM Had the Tennessee job last year if he wanted it...

Its not happening according to a friend….

Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 13, 2010 2:07 AM CST reply actions  

Mack is the King

I wouldn’t trade him for anyone

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew that "kiffin" was going to be a new word for the English language

But I had not thought of “kiffining”. We need some definitions for sure.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 13, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Some things from the story to add to the sleaze that is this man named Kiffin

“They had the nerve to call me and ask me to come to Southern Cal,” (4 star recruit commited to Tenn) Willis said. “And coach Ed Orgeron (who will follow Kiffin back to Los Angeles) said that he was going to be my coach at Tennessee.”

Glad someone stood up and admitted feeling hurt and betrayed.

“I was laying in my bed because I’m sick right now,” Dixon said. "I heard something on TV about Lane Kiffin leaving and I jumped up and it said he was going to USC. I was like, wow. The first thing I did was call (fellow Vols commit) Markeith Ambles and he didn’t even know about it. I was shocked, I guess.

I know it’s the knuckle-head Dixon, but his words are interesting. Kiffin didn’t even tell his recruits what was going on, much less his actual team. It’s like he was thrilled to be at Tenn, then USC called and it only took 5 min for him to scram. And if everything hadn’t worked out perfectly no one would have ever known so it’s a win-win for him. All about Lane.

by Jhal2315 on Jan 13, 2010 3:05 AM CST up reply actions  

That's hilarious. actually

Considering that he’s done the same thing to two schools now. What goes around, comes around.

by mikey 4 on Jan 13, 2010 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Kiffin

Was standing up at his press conference, literally, with darn-near one foot out the door. Never seen someone so excited to leave anywhere.

by DaGoose on Jan 13, 2010 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The phrase "lack of institutional control" . . .

. . . will become well-known in South Central LA within a few years.

"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com

by Hopkins Horn on Jan 13, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I know ND is down these days

But if a coach would say no to ND, why would he say yes to Tennessee?

by Ohio Horn on Jan 13, 2010 7:32 AM CST reply actions  

pity?

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

You must not live in Austin.

Its been freezing down here recently.

by 2Cor12:9 on Jan 13, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Wife and I flew out there for the KU game

And while Austin’s beautiful people were complaining a bit about the chill, we thought it heavenly compared to the icy, bitter cold back in Maryland. I’m sure it’s pretty rare that Austin is anywhere nearly as cold as South Bend.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

When I got back to South Bend Sunday night

it was 5 degrees, with a windchill of -8. Also too cold for this Texan, but I have some perspective on Texas cold now.

by LonghornEm on Jan 13, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Try Yellowstone in the winter on snowmobiles

It was -23 when I was there, so cold the geysers froze solid (well maybe not). Seriously, though, there are no crowds except for the buffalo. And quite a spectacle.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been through "cold" Austin winters

What you’re having right now is a veritable heat wave by winter standards on the great lakes.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

No I live in South Bend actually

Texas freezing is nowhere close to Great Lakes region freezing, trust me.

by LonghornEm on Jan 13, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Dude...

It seriously gets down to like…. 35 degrees here.

I had to put on a coat the other day. It was messed up.

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

It's going to get up to 35 here (Chicago) over the weekend

I’m thinking about busting out the birkenstocks.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

We have 5 days of above freezing temps forecasted

I may lay out and tan. My main hope is that the snow melts enough that the smaller of my two beagles won’t sink in up to her neck when I take her out any more.

by LonghornEm on Jan 13, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

You haven't truly lived

until you’ve gone outside for a smoke on a fifteen-below night.

by mnHorn on Jan 13, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Mittens too!

"If you think you can be stopped, this isn't the place for you."

by austintexasbaby on Jan 13, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Cutcliffe

For what it’s worth, the consensus on Atlanta sports radio this morning is that Dave Cutcliffe (Duke HC) is the frontrunner. In fact, Muschamp’s name was never mentioned on either show I listened to this morning, so he certainly isn’t on the radar in SEC-land.

by WanderingHorn on Jan 13, 2010 8:29 AM CST reply actions  

He's a DC in the Big 12

Which means he’s nothing to the SEC.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

That's not fair

Will Muschamp is a respected name in the business. He graduated from an SEC school, has been a defensive coordinator at two SEC schools, and worked for an NFL team within the SEC’s geographic footprint. I wrote an article about Coach Muschamp for The Eyes of Texas a couple of years ago. He’s the real deal; he will be a great head coach in the Big 12, and he would have been a great head coach in the SEC had he chosen to go that route.

Since Georgia played a Big 12 team in the Independence Bowl and the national championship game pitted the champions of the country’s two premiere conferences, I was really conscious of the whole Big 12/SEC thing this postseason, and I was very disappointed with some of the SEC-bashing at I Am the 12th Man and Corn Nation. We don’t have to do this. The SEC respects the Big 12. It’s a great league with a number of quality programs. Let’s not make it about the conference wars.

Go 'Dawgs!

by T Kyle King on Jan 13, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t just any of us by I am the 12th Man. You may not realize it, but that’s an insult. Beergut is an enemy of thought.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I definitely try not to make it about conference wars

And I definitely don’t mean to imply that educated fans of SEC programs don’t respect Muschamp. It’s just that the average SEC fan, and indeed almost every casual CFB watcher (the kind who just catches a game or two on Saturdays, and nothing else), believes the Big 12 is a conference where defense does not exist.

I fault the media. Won’t someone think of the children?

by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Another Simpsons reference

Thank you sir

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel like tweek right now

I’m gonna punch Joel over at Rocky Top Blog if they steal Coach Boom

OMG

More coffee?!?!?!??!?!??!!? :)

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Jan 13, 2010 8:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Wow

Couldn’t see USC going that direction. If Muschamp goes to the Vols I can’t blame him & would wish him the best of luck. We can’t hold him back from a HC gig if he wants it – never going to be a perfect time.

I still am reeling, you gotta effin be kidding me, why/what does USC see in this idiot?

by HalfmileHorn on Jan 13, 2010 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

"never going to be a perfect time"

The perfect time is when Mack steps down.

by mikey 4 on Jan 13, 2010 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

UT is a top 10 program, but they are in a bad spot.

They had a lot of senior leadership this year, and they are losing a lot at key positions where they don’t have a lick of depth (QB & OL for starters). Now their recruiting class is in disarray, and their staff is in shambles. Wonder Boy took the entire staff with him to USC, save one or two people. This is demonstrated by the fact that their interim coach, Kippy Brown, is a replacement for another coach that already split and has barely been in town for two weeks. Does he even have the phone numbers for their recruits?

I would be weary of stepping into that job.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

Please

You’re going to confuse everyone. I had read it 3 times before i realized you were talking about Tenn, not Texas. UT = Texas. Tenn = Tenn. At least for this site, please.

Thanks.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

If you must

UT vs. UTn

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh. I thought about that after posting.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

according to colin cowherd

just heard on his radio show that Muschamp turned Tenn. down

Please tell me you got that.

by TexasGarcia37 on Jan 13, 2010 11:01 AM CST reply actions  

Whew.

My nerves are calming a little..

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

Isn't the offseason fun?

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Yah

I would rather play Alabama every day than have to worry about my beloved Boom bolting. But then again, who wouldn’t want to play ’Bama every day :)

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent ... +1

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Colt McCoy.

too soon? Lol. JK. I wish we could have off season scrimmages, and I’m sure Colt would love another shot.

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

And if Muschamp spurns UTn

that’s awesome. Hook’em!

What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.

-Hank Hill

by Zoltar on Jan 13, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

My man-crush for Coach Boom just got stronger

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Spin

are you still up from last night or did you get any sleep? I won’t lie, it was difficult for me haha

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I went to bed around 4:30 am and woke up @ 8:30ish

ZZZzzzzzzzz

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You folks should spin this site off into a sit-com

each post is funnier than the next!! Mushcamp Levity…all it needs is Muskrat Love playing in the background.

by Wrangler86 on Jan 13, 2010 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

I think I still have my Captain's hat

"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal

by spinmonkey on Jan 13, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

ESPN is saying

that Tenn has contacted Fulmer about coming back as AD or Head Coach

by NeTexHorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:15 AM CST reply actions  

link?

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I am watching SportsCenter

No link just came out in the “This just in” segment.

by NeTexHorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Danke

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Jan 13, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

We won't forget this Coach Boom

I guess Fulmer’s coming back after his unsuccessful bid for President.

by Eskimohorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:18 AM CST reply actions  

plus he got tired of Law and Order...

and that’s one combination he doesn’t need to deal with much at Tenn…

by Pflash on Jan 13, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

would stress me out, but

It would be funny if Boom held a press conference and played the “hat game” that the recruits play…

by UTLawGrad on Jan 13, 2010 11:40 AM CST reply actions  

lol

Vince Young >Tim Tebow.

by PineypointG on Jan 13, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

how about with piles of cash, a la the Geico wad, instead?

Put name plates in front of them … UT, UTn, Ags (coins on the table)

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know how to imbed the picture

But Urban Meyer getting the text of Kiffin’s resignation is priceless. He was at basketball game and quickly left to start calling recruits, I’m sure.

http://www.bustersports.com/blog/buster-blog/2010/01/13/lane-kiffin-is-out-of-urban-meyers-hair/

by Wrangler86 on Jan 13, 2010 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

his heart leapt when he read that...

it was a tie between the grin and a quick call to 911 – quickly followed by calls to every recruit telling them how much he’s looking forward to August…..

by Pflash on Jan 13, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait ... when do Tenn and USC play each other?

In the Poulan Poinsettia Bowl? I imagine Lane probably thought about the fact that he could leave Tenn. in the rearview mirror and not have to deal with ’em, again.

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

Tenn. has my sympathy.

People like Kiffin eventually get their comeuppance. It may take a while, but it eventually comes around. At some point people will see through his good looks and all-the-right-answers speak. He will no longer be able to hide the fact that he really isn’t all that talented.

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

+1

for use of comuppance.

Alabama 37 Texas 21

by Peter Bean on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp Spotted in Knoxville

Just kidding, I didn’t say when, come on already …

Anyone think Tuberville is 2nd-guessing his hurry to sign w/ Tech ?

by HalfmileHorn on Jan 13, 2010 1:19 PM CST reply actions  

News from Chattanooga where I live. This is from an email from a friend who is the prep editor at the Free Press......

Mike Hamilton (TN’s AD) was leaving the press conference and supposed to fly immediately to Austin to discuss the contract with Muschamp.
They are prepared to up it if need be and was told to do whatever it takes to get him.
He has been given the ultimatum that it has to be done, a coach must be in place by Friday. If Muschamp turns it down, the next choices (in no certain
order) include Gary Patterson (TCU), Troy Calhoun (Air Force) and Randy Edsall (UConn). No word from Chris Peterson’s (Boise State) from anybody official and that the other names such as Gruden have not been mention either

BOOOOOOOOM MF!

by TNHorn on Jan 13, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

He won't be able to turn Muschamp

Mack’s the Master, and Muschamp the Apprentice. Darth Boom and his stormtroopers are busy working on the ultimate weapon… a team that can destroy another coach’s career with a single game.

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Why is Ahmad Dixon such a recruit whore?

Doesn’t he know he looks like a jfucken oke with his possible 4th time committing!

by kcmorse on Jan 13, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

From Rocky Top Talk

Unbelievable. Tenn. does not deserve that.

I hope Kiffin and company have five consecutive losing seasons at USC.

And NEVER, EVER land another coaching job.

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

Wouldn't put it past the assistant coach,

but, seems unlikely that “players” overheard. A lot of inuendo there as the ship is sinking. Not supporting Kiffin but we all know that the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

by TXStampede on Jan 13, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn’t referring to the overheard part. The fact that they were trying to convince players to follow them to USC, basically stealing TN’s recruits. Yes, I’m sure it happens, but that doesn’t make it ethical behavior.

Oh, wait. I’m talking about Kiffin…

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It's official

Lane Kiffin is Dutch for “King Douche Nozzle”.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Jan 13, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp

Muschamp would be nuts to leave Texas for Tennessee but it won’t happen anyway. He wouldn’t leave Texas for ANY head coaching job. Not even an NFL head coaching job. He has it made as defensive coordinator and head coach in waiting. Why take the chance on going from the best situation you could ask for to an unknown?

by Ryan2907 on Jan 13, 2010 2:10 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

That thread started at midnight

and its in full meltdown mode now. (25 or so pages by now)

by NeTexHorn on Jan 13, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe that it was on the very first page

Probably first post. I believe it was pure rumor and speculation

by NeTexHorn on Jan 13, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That thread is getting crazy

Sorry for posting it. I saw it and I thought that was interesting but there is nothing credible

by Liches on Jan 13, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

That whole forum is crazy. In one thread, I saw it “rumored” that the coach would be Muschamp, Leach, Calhoun, Stoops, and the coach at Miss st.

by JohnsonUT on Jan 13, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Was there a way for Kiffin to take the USC job without being chastised?

I would like to know how all of you people saying that he loses his integrity think that Kiffin should have done this. He would have to be retarded to turn down the USC job to stay to Tennessee. Would anybody here turn down their dream job to stay at an internship?

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Jan 13, 2010 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

I don't remember the history...

Was Kiffin on staff when all the Reggie Bush stuff was going on? Allegedly going on…I don’t want to get sued.

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 2:58 PM CST reply actions  

And they hired him…with the NCAA looking into recruiting irregularities when he was on staff.

The word stupid comes to mind.

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

USC is getting hammered on the mainstream sites.

“Win at all costs”, etc. They’re lookin’ pretty slimy right now.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Jan 13, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

Absolutely.

I almost couldn’t believe it, but they are uniformly against the move, and regular folks are laughing their asses off too.

What a bonehead move by the Trojans. Even if they win with Kiffin, this will be a dark, scandal-plagued era for them.

by tblog123 on Jan 13, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Best quote of the day so far-

During the news conference, the Tenn AD was asked how he would describe Lane Kiffin’s time as head coach. He replied, “Brief”.

by NeTexHorn on Jan 13, 2010 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

Texas fans you must be joking

You live in a state that has a population base larger than the rest of the Big 12 combined. You get the best recruits and have more money than Jesus. I feel so sorry for you.
Why are you freaking out about 1 assistant coach, a blind monkey could coach your team to 10 wins a year.
Imagine what you would do with our coach.

by huskerfanz on Jan 13, 2010 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

Imagine what you would do with our coach.

Lock up our daughters, I guess.*

*Rumor completely unsubstantiated and should not be taken as fact.

by jc25 on Jan 13, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Just think

we could throw our chewing gum at our players on the sideline on national television, too.

It wasn’t so long ago that your school got better recruits – just seems like an eternity to you. I don’t sympathize in the least …

by HalfmileHorn on Jan 13, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

A blind monkey?

I thought Bo Pellini already had a job

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Jan 13, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

You know

When you stare through the hate, like one of those 3D pictures, huskerfanz post is actually kind of complementary to our program. Kind of.

by tblog123 on Jan 13, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but with the right two assistant coaches and head coach...

we might just be able to sit at 13 wins a year… for 4-5 years in a row? Defense has been our achilles heel until Muschamp. The prospect of fielding a top 10 defense year in and year out puts us where we’ve been the last two years, which is in contention for a national title each year.

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey now,

Helen Keller was incredibly accomplished. Putting her name in there with Mackovic is dirty pool.

by mnHorn on Jan 13, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, sort of.

Hellen Keller was very accomplished for someone who was born blind, deaf, and mute.But you’re right, that’s probably still too good for Mackovic.

by billyzane on Jan 13, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Take a look at this line from that article:
Muschamp, who makes $900,000, is the head-coach-in-waiting at Texas to Mack Brown, who recently signed an extension that will take him through 2016.

I want everyone to sit back and imagine Mack and Muschamp leading the Horns through 2016… ahhhhh, isn’t that nice? It’s such a pretty picture that I can even put Davis in it.

by notsofst on Jan 13, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

just a note

The author of that piece didn’t even have Kiffin in the running for the USC job and thought that Texas Tech would keep Lincoln Riley, so I dunno that he’s terribly reliable.

by HeeroTX on Jan 13, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone still concerned?

I don’t have Orangebloods access but they appear to have backed off their rock solid “He is staying” proclamation, which was the basis for several subsequent stories saying he is not in consideration. Some of the recruits and HS coaches have tried to get in touch with the staff and have not heard back. The only comment I’ve read from the school is basically “no comment.” I’m not sold that he’s leaving, but the silence has implications. It wouldn’t shock me if the result here is not that he has decided to leave, but that he and Mack are working on a more concrete timeline for when the transition occurs.

by the chairman211 on Jan 13, 2010 5:04 PM CST reply actions  

from Yahoo

Report: Texas’ Will Muschamp Out as Vols Candidate
From Yahoo

by Ryan2907 on Jan 13, 2010 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I've seen a dozen reports to that effect today

But, strangely, not one of them has come from Will Muschamp.

by mikey 4 on Jan 13, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

There were a flurry of reports this morning that (1) he was staying, and (2) he was going to issue a statement or have press conference to that effect.

It’s now early evening and we haven’t heard a thing from the source. Something is up. Perhaps it’s just reworking his contract with Texas, who knows.

by mikey 4 on Jan 13, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Texas needs to make a statement soon...

or you jeopardize the status of nervous defensive recruits

by silky51 on Jan 13, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

not to mention

the health of nervous fans

by zissou on Jan 13, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Ridiculous

don’t feed the monster. Any nervous recruits probably have already had a phone call, it is just crazy fans who are in jeopardy.

by Wells on Jan 13, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

There is a reason why the Texas staff is the best. As soon as this nonsense leaked, they were on the phone to recruits.

by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Nonsense?

Muschamp flew to Tennessee this morning, this nonsense apparantly has/had legs to it.

See BZ’s post on main page.

by silky51 on Jan 13, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you ever seen such a happy riot?

All those “angry students” at UTn were smilin’ and carryin’ on like Aggy at a goat-ropin’.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Jan 13, 2010 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

Amateurs

Michigan State could show them a thing or two…

by Jonny Horn on Jan 13, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp flew to Tennessee this morning

From InsideTexas:

A source with historic ties to UT Men’s Athletic Department told Inside Texas that Will Muschamp flew out of Austin this morning at 5:45 a.m. Central to meet with Tennessee officials about the head coaching position at the SEC school before returning to Austin this afternoon. It’s unclear where and when the meeting took place and who attended. Muschamp is represented by agent Jimmy Sexton, who is a Tennessee alum.

4th and 5.

by BMC237 on Jan 13, 2010 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

That was yesterday

Those peeps still haven’t taken down that page. Muschamp put out a statement last nite saying he wasn’t going anywhere.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

as was your post, somehow it was flagged as new. Need more coffee…but the IT peeps still haven’t taken down that rumormongering page.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

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