InsideTexas Says Muschamp Met With Tennessee This Morning
Refrain from melting down for the time being. Lots of faulty sources out there so far (this one has "historic ties to UT Men's Athletic Department", whatever that means) and even if it's true, it doesn't mean anything. Yet.
Follow the ongoing story at SBNation.
[HT to BMC237]
UPDATE (PB): Howevah, same Inside Texas source (Ross Lucksinger) saying Muschamp turned down TN offer. Interesting to see what's what when this all settles.
UPDATE 9:30 PB: Lucksinger's latest: "Recruits have been contacted and told Muschamp is staying." And with that, we're done updating unless it's from Belmont.
FINAL UPDATE (PB): It's over. Muschamp stays, is happy right where he is. Whoever was sourcing Lucksinger was plain wrong. Hooray for needless scare.
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Saw that, also this
Source: Muschamp flew out and met with Tennessee. Two additional sources: Muschamp said ‘no’. Radio station in Knoxville: Tenn, moves on.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2010 6:57 PM CST reply actions
If I had to guess, I'd say no.
But if this report is correct, then he’s listening. That could mean any number of things. Plenty of people listen for any number of reasons.
Could this be a case of good manners? Turning them down in person vs. just a trite phone call?
by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Example
Tennessee is a really good fulcrum to pry filthy lucre out of Dodd’s office.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
A good way to keep Dodd’s fingers from getting sticky…Hadn’t thought of that.
But we can assume his agent did.
by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure Boom operates that way
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 2:30 AM CST up reply actions
Many, many people do not
Agents typically do, that’s why people hire them.
I don’t think Muschamp would do something like that to renegotiate a contract he signed within the last month, but if there’s anything to the rumors of 3.5 million per that would be a significant upgrade over UT’s rumored offer of 2.5 million per season when he becomes head coach. There’s enough space between those data points that all parties would want to revisit his salary as head coach when he assumes the role.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jan 14, 2010 6:24 AM CST up reply actions
That 2.5 mil is just the starting point right now. Muschamp and his agent know that. Once he is closer to taking over, that figure will go WAY up.
by dimecoverage on Jan 14, 2010 6:57 AM CST up reply actions
‘But we can assume his agent did.’ Not even sure his agent was involved. Too many rumors and assumptions yesterday.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
I think Dime was merely referring to his agent having thought of it
Lots of speculation sure, and while speculating, I wouldn’t be surprised if Muschamp was never contacted. His agent, however, is a Tenn. alum who operates out of Memphis and represents some of the highest quality coaches in college football.
If you’re an AD, Sexton is the type of guy you would call to find your bearings. Lots of names could have been tossed around, and lots of numbers.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jan 14, 2010 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed that "feeling things out" is to be expected
and it is probably in everyone’s best interest in the long term. Scary for us fans, but not uncommon at all. I’m sure Muschamp and his agent were curious to know what he’s worth on the open market and what Tenn was offering. Texas was probably interested too. After all, Coach Muschamp will be in serious contract negotitations with AD MACK BROWN at some point in the not so distant future and having a baseline of what Tenn. would offer in Jan. 2010 will be a starting point. Can you imagine not taking a job because it only pays $3M a year instead of $2.5? At some point isn’t it the job and school and lifestyle over the money?
It is like Mr. Burns Said
Homer: You know, Mr. Burns, you’re the richest guy I know. Way richer
than Lenny.
Burns: Oh yes. But I’d trade it all for a little more.
Simpsons — “Mountain of Madness”
Dunno yet, my bet is 'no'
Great way to angle a raise or benefits, though.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2010 7:02 PM CST reply actions
For some people
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 2:32 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting that he would fly out just to tell them no
I’ll believe anything at this point. Still, weird.
by the chairman211 on Jan 13, 2010 7:04 PM CST reply actions
Maybe he wanted the frequent flier miles
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
by Hopkins Horn on Jan 13, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe he just wanted to cover his bases
When he interviewed for the Texas job, he claimed that he had no intention of taking the job but felt that he owed it to himself and his family to at least make the trip and hear what we had to say. By the time he left Austin, he had heard all he needed to hear.
I have to say this is a very odd situation. The Statesman reported earlier today that the sports information office confirmed that Muschamp was in Austin today. And considering the time of the Vols’ presser, it makes me wonder when exactly Muschamp was supposedly in Knoxville meeting with them. The Statesman also reported that the media relations people said they had not been in contact with Mack or Will all day today. The whole lack of communication thing is just very disconcerting.
TIME TO PANIC
I hear he wore orange to work today…a sign of the future?
by 40AS on Jan 13, 2010 7:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I've heard so many reports today...
I want to hear it from Muschamp or, second best, see it on MB-TF.
Make it stop already!!
Seriously I haven’t even gotten over the MNC loss and now I have to endure all this stuff?
For the love of my sanity, someone put Coach M in a witness protection program so all these has been programs can’t find him.
by dukeoforange on Jan 13, 2010 7:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Look Coach Brown and Coach Boom are very close
I don’t think for one moment Coach Boom did this without checking with Coach Brown first. My guess was he was just testing the waters and listening because sometimes with some opportunities you just have to listen even if there is no real interest.
Please tell me you got that.
True.
He may have friends in the Tenn. ath. department and it was just courtesy.
A friend of mine asked me to interview for a job. I really wasn’t interested in going back to work for someone else, but because of the relationship, I felt like I needed to go through the motions.
by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
How awesome is it that we have a DC and HC-in-waiting in this much demand?
And if he indeed did turn them down, that makes me think this transition may happen sooner rather than later.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
As a Tennessee fan
I think that is one of the greatest compliments to a program; for your assistants to be in such high demand. Didn’t happen too much under the Fulmer regime.
Time will tell about the Boom. I have thought highly of him since his time at Auburn.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
That is what happens...
….. when you hire a DC that trained under Nick Saban and Tommy Tuberville. A DC who had previously already won a Nat’l Championship and posted an undefeated season at a BCS Big-6 program.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
The IT report is based off of what a Knoxville radio is reporting… so it’s not exactly the most credible of sources.
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 13, 2010 7:24 PM CST reply actions
Looks like Texas Tech has already found a Def Cordinator according to the Big XII blog on ESPN
James Willis, Alabama’s Linebackers coach
Tubs had best hope Muschamp stays...
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jan 13, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Keep reading that thread
Others chime in saying he said “no.” The ones saying he agreed provide no proof. The ones saying he said “no” link to the inside texas article we have seen.
I did...
Three of them said that they received texts saying that it’s Muschamp. The ones saying “no” are just recycling the nos from earlier in the day.
I hope they’re full of shit. If so, why no word from Muschamp? It’s likely that he’s negotiating with someone right now, either Texas or Tennessee (or both). Which means that a “no” from earlier in the day could have turned into a “yes” with a sweetened offer.
Tennessee has been thru enough
Why falsely get their hopes up? It’s just mean and someone should apologize for kicking them when they’re down.
It Ain't Easy, But It's Worth It.
Not yet
The offer is 7 yrs @ 3 mil per. No out clause for Texas or UGA. No word on yea or nay.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
On the contrary
That smoke hasn’t been accompanied by any flames whatsoever. That is the issue. Our side insists there is nothing to these rumors, and their side insists a deal has already been reached. But they’ve offered no proof at all. This is typical SEC behavior.
Although
I will say that I’m a little disappointed that Muschamp hasn’t released some sort of statement. Whether it’s “I’m not going anywhere. You can all get some sleep now,” or “Nothing has been decided, but I would be foolish not to at least meet with them.” I don’t really care which, but I’m not going to deny that it bothers me that he won’t publicly acknowledge what’s going on. I’m sure he has his reasons, but there is a hell of a lot at stake here, and it would just be nice for someone to start talking. The rumors for the past 24 hours have been about as fantastic as I can remember.
insidetexas also said
@InsideTexas: Two sources tell Inside Texas that Will Muschamp will NOT accept the head coaching position at Tennessee. http://bit.ly/5ySXlK
and
@InsideTexas: Out in Cali, on other coaching jobs, Muschamp said he wanted to be head coach “at the best job in the country, and I think that’s Texas.”
lol, its gonna be mike leach guys, you heard it here first... told yall not to worry
Mike Leach Mike Leach Mike Leach
book it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jeez
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Jan 13, 2010 7:57 PM CST reply actions
I think Leach would be great
He is exciting and crazy and perfect for them. He would bring credibility with a change in the SEC that would shake up the D Coordinators in the SEC. And, he has recruiting ties to Texas and SEC so he could work out for them. The Volunteer Pirates—I could support that.
thats what my sources are tellin me
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Jan 13, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Your sources are wrong
Leach had the worst interview of all candidates last year, pre-Kiffin. I fear we might end up with a Skip Holtz type.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
Texas recruits contacted that Muschamp is staying
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 13, 2010 7:59 PM CST reply actions
Besides
my sources tell me it will be leach
by Wells on Jan 13, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolute win!!!!
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Anytime Shaggy Bevo is cited
God punts 100 puppies to hell.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
Its better than citing OB
well, nvm. Its the same, except free.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
+100
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Last night on EDSBS the Kiffin stuff was soo funny
and it got my mind off of the NC. Now this isn’t funny. Please stop the nightmare.
Coach Brown would probably not discourage Muschamp from meeting with them
Kind of like that if you love him let him free and if he stays then you know stuff.
And, he may have even talked to them to help let them know what would be his concerns etc. Maybe even discuss references on some other prospect other than himself.
I just wish UT Media would make a statement before recruits get nervous. They shouldn’ since we know Coach Brown is certainly not going anywhere soon, but this has been crazy.
Probably right about Mack
Before VY it was unheard of for a UT football player to leave school early. Now we have 1 or 2 a year doing so. My guess is that Brown doesn’t try to influence them in any way, just tells them to do whatever they think is best for themselves and their families. His approach with Muschamp would likely then be the same.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
I would love to see Leach
wreak havoc in the SEC…he would have better athletes than he had in Lubbock…and would instantly make it tougher for someone to go undefeated out there (just like he’s done in the Big 12).
Why do y'all like Leach so much
He seems like an eccentric weirdo with a pirate fetish. A smart weirdo, but a weirdo nonetheless.
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Two camps:
The camp that finds the eccentricity charming, and the camp that finds the quirkiness entertaining.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
In addition to BOH's comment
I like him because he does a lot with the talent he gets.
He also gets major brownie points for his press conference quotes (see: fat girlfriends and “breakfast”), for putting Adam James in an electrical closet, and for beating OU multiple times.
Now I see this...
RT: @mikefinger: Source in #UT athletic department insists Will Muschamp did not fly to Tennessee and has been in Austin all day.
For the fourth time today I will stop refreshing for a while. The problem is I keep getting sucked back in.
Although it would be unethical
it would be interesting to start some crazy rumor on some message board and see how fast the fire spreads. obviosly not a good thing to do in practice but interesting in theory
It spreads quickly
I have seem my posts repeated on various forums after posting here today.
Start one about Urban Meyer
For instance, maybe he gets caught in the act of strangling newborn pandas.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
And putting them in a dark closet. NT
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Halliburton
Rumors continued to swirl late Wednesday about Will Muschamp and whether the Longhorns defensive coordinator and head-coach-in-waiting is jumping to the other UT — Tennessee.
However, when reached for comment, Texas football spokesman John Bianco said Muschamp has not interviewed for the Volunteers job. And Bianco said Muschamp told him Wednesday that he is "happy here and plans on being at Texas for a long time."
by the chairman211 on Jan 13, 2010 10:24 PM CST reply actions
You can apparently scratch all the Will Muschamp rumors, the ones that had the Texas defensive coordinator and head coach designate in either Dallas or Knoxville interviewing for the Tennessee job.
Muschamp clarified his intentions Wednesday night.
"I"m happy at Texas and plan to be here for a long time," Muschamp said through a Texas football spokesman.
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/muschamp-says-hes-staying-at-texas.html
by Displaced Longhorn on Jan 13, 2010 10:36 PM CST reply actions
Of course, remember that Boom admires Nick "I will not be the coach at Alabama" Saban
"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles
by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I saw this on one of those Vols forums
A “proven DC” isn’t the solution here. Especially one at an underachieving program like Texas. I think Mack Brown is a fraud, why would I want one of his assistants? Muschamp will not keep up with our biggest rivals.
Too funny.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Jealousy rears its ugly head
on fan sites of programs that has reached their nadir.
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
*have* reached
duh!
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
Typical post from a sub-par SEC team.
I’ve been around a lot of these guys, they ALL sound like this.
Sounds like some seriously sour grapes. NT
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Anybody watch that UNC game
man, that was U-G-L-Y
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
Y'all are safe
Boom is staying put
Lane Kiffin can eat a *self delete* and choke on it!
by pound the rock on Jan 13, 2010 11:19 PM CST reply actions
Agreed
Leach would be great. With TENN talent, he could make things happen. Hire Ruffin to run the D. Take Tech to the Smokies. Plenty of sheds around in the South to lock players in.
"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles
by Distributor of the Football on Jan 13, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
I was actually hoping Ruffin to ECU
If Holtz leaves for USF or some other job, that is.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Hey what does everyone think
Of a Tenn/USC home and home?
I’m calling it! Cops better restock that tear gas!!!!
outstanding
"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles
by Distributor of the Football on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Will Muschamp says he’s staying at Texas
"I"m happy at Texas and plan to be here for a long time," Muschamp said through a Texas football spokesman. http://www.40acressports.com/2010/01/13/will-muschamp-says-hes-staying-at-texas/
Thanks BZ.
Thanks for the up-to-date status.
I say, if we have a rematch against Alabama on next season again, I’m sure we can kick their butt.
BZ: Where did Lucksinger ever say that Muschamp was leaving?
Or was he errant in his acclaim that WM visited Tennessee? Just wondering, out of the loop here for a few hours due to unforeseen circumstances.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 2:42 AM CST reply actions
I meant PB
Final update was from PB I guess.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 2:44 AM CST up reply actions
The latter
His claim that WM visited Tennessee appears to have been completely wrong.
Alabama 37 Texas 21
This pisses me off
Does anyone at InsideTexas get any repercussions for printing rumors that were completely false? It is one thing for internet fan boards to have retarded rumors flying around, that is pretty much what happens all of the time, but InsideTexas is affiliated with a “news” organization. Plus, if some of our fellow BONers are correct, this could have had negative repercussions on recruiting, and at least gave Muschamp and the AD’s spokespeople an unnecessary headache to deal with.
If they consider themselves a credible news organization then somebody's head needs to roll
I couldn’t enjoy the basketball game with all that BS going on.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Do not subscribe
In theory, as often as these guys are wrong (all the pay sites, not just IT), no one should spend $100 a year for the privilege.
Alabama 37 Texas 21
What a racket
Do you think I could start a “Longhorn Insider” and then reprint internet rumors as quotes from my anonymous sources with close ties to the administration and charge $100 a year?
And in practice . . .
. . . what “news” could you possibly get from these sites that isn’t leaked or isn’t independently sourced and reported if important enough? Can someone who subscribes to one of these sites give a non-copyright-infringing theoretical example of what kind of news I’m missing?
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
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