Dan Buckner arrested
Update: The scoop on what had happened:
"Buckner was visiting a woman at her apartment complex at 614 Holleman Drive East in College Station when the two of them got into an argument and Buckner was asked to leave, Sigler said.
Buckner refused to leave, and neighbors called police to report the disturbance.
The Longhorns receiver refused to get in the police car, Sigler said."
Strangely, neither pay site is reporting Buckner's arrest at this time and neither is the Statesman. It's legit though, as the link over at BC connects to the real deal Brazos County jail records. Buckner marks the fourth Longhorn football player arrested since the middle of November -- while it's not a streak as bad as the 2007 summer, it's getting close.
Ken Rucker's move into what basically amounts to a babysitting position on the team was supposed to stop some of this behavior, but this falls on the players -- the coaching staff cannot monitor them every second of every day, particularly in the off season. As a team, all the players must collectively make better decisions and some of that falls on the senior leadership.
When Brian Orakpo and Roy Miller were seniors in 2008, this type of thing wasn't happening because the players all knew better than to cross them. Who fills that void now, especially with leaders like Lamarr Houston and Colt McCoy gone? --GoBR--
Arrested for criminal trespass and resisting arrest in College Station.
WTF was he doing in College Station?
over 2 years ago
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Maybe he was just walking on the grass?
Because that would be heroic.
Otherwise, crap.
Your Man In the Balkans
by Kahuna on Jan 14, 2010 8:52 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I'll put my jump to conclusions mat away for now.
It’s tough to do, but you’re right. Gotta wait until the details surface of what actually happened.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
College Station should be declared off limits
to UT football players not inside a stadium, bus or team hotel. Only bad things can happen there.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions
Well
It looks like Buckner is definitely a legit 6-3, if not a little taller when he stands up straight. So at least we have an accurate measurement of his height now…
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 14, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
bet he can catch
just as easily with his hands behind his back like that.
by Duffs_Delicious_Salsa on Jan 14, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
WRs
Between Buckner and Collins it looks like the “What do we do with all these receivers?” question is starting to answer itself. I hate it when this stuff happens.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
can we give #4
to someone else? white maybe?
by Duffs_Delicious_Salsa on Jan 14, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions
Probably getting ahead of ourselves with that one
but White definitely looks like Big Roy with the way that their body parts seem to be going in all directions at once. Personally, I don’t think Buckner deserves to wear the number and the coaching staff should make it a point to make players earn the right to wear it. But I might be a little biased about that, as my handle on here might indicate.
As for as punishment for Buckner it’s all speculation until the details emerge, but the charges wouldn’t seem to warrant a quick dismissal like Brandon Collins, though certainly a suspension is no doubt in order.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 14, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
I made a post about how this trend was becoming disturbing...
…and this just adds to it. Damnit, Buckner. I’m not ready to convict yet, and I’m really interested to read the details, but this is just dumb. Why even go into College Station?
I’m really hoping this turns out to be an “over-charge.” There are so many ways a criminal trespassing charge could result from something that wasn’t all that big a deal, like maybe being at someone’s house, and then not leaving when told to do so, so the person jumped the gun and called the police. I really hope that’s it, but I get the feeling it isn’t.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 9:40 AM CST reply actions
he’s just a dumbass. on his twitter he talks about living the life of a texas football player and how great it is. if he’s too dumb to realize what he has in front of him, he doesn’t deserve to be on our team. we’ve all done stupid things, but we all haven’t been to jail. just another bad mark on the team’s record.
by Duffs_Delicious_Salsa on Jan 14, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
Until all the facts come out
it would only be appropriate to reserve the harsher judgments and that includes excessively derogatory language.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 14, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
is dumbass excessively derogatory?
wonder how many hawaii five-o jokes were made at the brazos county jail this morning…
by Duffs_Delicious_Salsa on Jan 14, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
calling him a dumbass is excessively derogatory. Clearly, Buckner made some type of poor decision and then most likely compounded with another poor decision directly thereafter. I haven’t seen his Twitter feed, but he hasn’t had any other incidents or disciplinary problems that would indicate a pattern of behavior.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 14, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Or undercharge
like we found him on the property before he burglarised the house….hopefully, its a miss understanding but the Resisting makes me think he ran after confronted by law enforcement
All conjecture at this point
I was once arrested by a less than stellar cop who trumped up my three beer scenario. It was promptly thrown out and she was reprimanded.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 9:58 AM CST up reply actions
My brother was arrested for DUI and resisting arrest was added.
I was there the entire time. What happened: he had one beer three hours prior, spilled a little on his shirt, and later swerved to miss a dog. Cop saw it, tested him, and arrested him despite the negative test result. When my brother rolled his eyes and turned his head in disgust (he did not otherwise move), the cop cuffed him and told him that he had been resisting arrest as well. All I can say is that my brother walked scot-free once it was all said and done, and for good reason.
Resisting arrest is one of the most abused charges out there, IMO.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
This was in Austin
several years ago. I didn’t use a turn signal and was stupid enough to admit my three beers when I was stopped. I failed the field sobriety test (cop’s judgement) because my knees were shaking in the freezing wind and cold then passed the breath test downtown (.03) and they still locked me up for a few hours. I don’t donate anymore to the police fraternity organizations.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Abused Charge
I read this the other day and was amazed that this was an accepted practice of the Boston police force.
I fricking despise cops
And it’s not actually the fault of most cops, but rather the visible minority like those in that article.
I’m all for laws against invasion of privacy, but law enforcement officials acting in an official capacity are not engaging in private conduct that should ever be construed as protected.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Some of them
are lacking in judgement sometimes. That’s why Buckner should get the benefit of the doubt.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
What pissed me off more
is not the abuse of the legal statute by some cops, but the fact that when asked the spoksman for the police department actually defended the officers actions.
The criminal trespass may be bogus, but...
the resisting arrest sounds more worrisome.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Maybe Beergut asked him for an interview
then called the law.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 9:48 AM CST reply actions
Competition
With the stable of WR’s coming to Texas I would be on the track and weight room to make sure I didn’t get left behind. Maybe Dan has an an unrealistic view of his skills.
The first thing that came to my mind was... prank
Hey, let’s vandalize this A&M thing! Awesome! Oh, crap, the cops! Run!
Criminal Trespass + Resisting Arrest
Thought of that as well
And I actually wouldn’t hold it against him too much if that turned out to be the case.
Hope we get some accurate facts soon.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
Do they still have that dog, Reveille or whatever?
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Lassie
I think, or maybe it was Tramp …
by HalfmileHorn on Jan 14, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Being in College Station, I'd have told them I was Jeff Fuller
and then just hoped the police didn’t ask me to do anything that only explosive athletes can do. I can’t imagine Fuller would be charged in CS
Well this has officially become a disturbing trend. Hopefully this is the last of the bad news for this offseason.
Criminal Trespass...WTF is Criminal Trespass????
I think the fact that he was in College Station was Criminal Trespass.
And Resisting Arrest
Probably because they had a hard time putting the handcuffs on his large hands…. Hmmm
by Crimson Fog on Jan 14, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
slippery hands,good one.
I had a buddy arrested for resisting and public intoxication at a party of mine,He flinched when the cop grabbed his arm.On my porch and I was standing there,yanked him off 3 foot drop off my porch,pepper sprayed and whooped him and he didn’t even get to have 1 sip of alcohol or any type of drugs.Totally sober.
Some cops do use their authority too much,granted it was the biggest party my neighborhood had seen.So definitely wait on crucifying this player.
Statesman has it now
Not much more though:
Texas Longhorns receiver Dan Buckner was arrested in College Station early this morning on charges of criminal trespass and resisting arrest, jail records show.
He was released on $8,000 bail, records show.
by Infield Elephant on Jan 14, 2010 10:17 AM CST reply actions
"UT is resembling Miami."
Here they come…
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
If I were a player for UT...
the hell I’d show up in College Station except on game day or in team functions. It’s like asking to get arrested. “Hey aren’t you Dan Buckner?” “Why yes I am.” “911 we have an emergency!”
TEXAS FIGHT
star-crossed romance at the core?
The Statesman blog mentions that he was visiting a woman and the address (how many minutes til the press announces who lives there?). He refused to leave when asked then “resisted arrest” by refusing to get into the police car. People do unintelligent things when frustrated (in football and in love, perhaps?).
Moral of the story:
Don’t date aggie, kids.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Beergut's daughter perhaps?
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure he was the neighbor
Lacking banning power in the neighborhood, he called the cops.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lots of arrests and questionable car crashes this past season...
…I wonder if Mack still runs the up-downs we heard so much about back in the 08-09 season…
That, or we could just assume we’re getting into that disappointing Miami territory where our kids (intentionally using that word) think they can win just by showing up…
Crap.
Wow
So it’s as I predicted: a complete over-charge. What was described will almost certainly not stand up as criminal trespassing, unless local laws are even more effed-up than I could imagine them.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 12:00 PM CST reply actions
What exactly is the definition fo 'criminal' trespass?
Obviously he was in the house legally….
I guess it becomes ‘criminal’ when he wouldn’t leave, but that’s pretty ridiculous. If I’m at my gf’s place and her roommate asks me to leave, am I am criminal now if I don’t leave?
IIRC...
…Criminal Trespass can only occur after being asked to leave AND having a Criminal Trespass warrant sworn out. But I’m not a lawyer. His refusal to get in the cop car was very stupid and more on an issue.
So
What is required to have a Criminal Trespass warrant out? Simply not leaving?
Probably just a 911 call.
I’m no lawyer, but I’d imagine that once 911 is called, the warrant is automatic.
TEXAS FIGHT
Interesting
So if I don’t like my neighbor I can call 911 and make some complaint and get a warrant for him?
Obviously it won’t stick, but the embarrassment of the arrest would linger.
Seems flawed, but whatever.
Very
I’ll save you the gory details, but the landmark case Lawrence v Texas that overturned the TX sodomy law was all based on a vindictive neighbor that called the police on his gay neighbor and lied to the police by saying a burglary was in progress. The police showed up and when they broke into the gay guy’s house to stop the alleged burglary, well, we will leave it at that what they found. The victims were prosecuted but bravely fought it. Imagine that embarassment.
I never heard if the a-hole neighbor that lied about what was going on was charged with making a false complaint, but I would imagine so.
Why football?
Rick Barnes and Augie Garrido do not seem to have this kind of problem.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Mathmatics
more kids = more chances of errors
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
*Mathematics*
Where are all you grammarians at to help me catch stuff like this?
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
We're also a football school...
Don’t get me wrong, our entire athletics program is sterling, but at the end of the day when you think Texas (the school, the state) you think football. This leads to publicity, pressure, and ego…none of which are helped by the fact that football players tend to be more aggressive and risk-taking by nature than kids rowing crew or playing softball…
Don't we have
Bigger problems in the world, such as murder and rape, to be dealing with than stopping people for going 2 miles over the speed limit, having a beer or two, or not leaving a house. I feel like we have big issues and all cops ever want to do is make money and pull out radar guns.
However, it’s possible I feel that way because media is slanted to only show the negative and annoying side.
Also, if the argument was a violent argument that’s different, but if not than people should leave it be.
So he went behind enemy lines to see a woman and got the cops called on him
For some reason the Yellow Rose of Texas is playing in my head.
+1
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
With the class coming in and our depth chart people like Buckner shouldn't be getting released!
If I was Mack I would let him go. This isn’t the kind of pr we need were starting to look like Miami in the 90’s
Bad Idea
We should not be making decisions based on how much need we have at that position. Each situation should be evaluated separately, but we should keep the same standards, no matter if the need is big or small. Otherwise you build resentment within the team and let the stars think they can get away with murder.
That's more than a little harsh
This is a relatively minor infraction, almost certainly less serious than whatever happened the night Kindle hit a wall, and definitely less serious than when Houston, Kindle, Monroe, and others got their DWIs or MIPs.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Nah
I bet this gets thrown out…..she isn’t going to file a charge and the police just needed to get him out of there since he wouldn’t leave. Probably wanted to get his jersey back or something equally stuipid. Nothing to get too concerned. Cops were probably not taking any chances because of his size.
—Side note- The Houston Metro lightrail train is on an honor system how you pay and get access to ride it. There are no police or agents stop you from getting on for free, but they do randomly check and if you are riding without a pass/ticket you get a $120 fine. My friend emailed me this morning that Metro cops were doing a random check to see if riders getting off had a valid pass/ticket. The cop waived him by without even asking him for his pass, so he walked on by in his suit and tie and then he stopped. He looked back at the line of folks waiting to show their tickets—all minorities. He went back and got in line and asked the cop to scan his ticket too.—
Ah, Houston
Miss that place. Nothing like some Jim Crow pie.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
I can just imagine
all the cops down at the station bending over while singing Hullabaloo Kaneck Kaneck and then high-fiving each other after they locked him up.
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
Meh.
Nothing here to evidence any malicious intent. Nothing that would indicate a character flaw that we should be worried about. Just a domestic disturbance with no violence.
Mack will punish him internally for putting himself in a position in which he could be arrested, but it seems to be just a bunch of minor nonsense.
My coincidence weenie is fully erect
Billy Zane plays a lawyer in “The Deep End”
Too rich.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Houston talk show this morning
Was talking about making a reality show around “USC Recruiting” etc….watching Orgeron and Kiffin in full display. Would make for good tv watching them lie to kid after kid.
"coincidence weenie"
I’ve got dibs on that phrase from here on out. Most excellent!
College Station made The Guinness Book of Records: World's largest tool shed
If I ask really nice-like...
Can you get me The Kurgan’s autograph?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jan 14, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
And while you're at it...
…can you get that one chick from Napolean Dynamite to get me Pedro’s autograph?
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Because I'm a misogynist racist prick.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
My take is that Mack said enough
I’m wondering if it’s possible that after the other arrests this year Mack called a team meeting and said enough is enough. Next person that makes the 10 oclock news is gone. And there you go.
I think this was the best decision on both sides!
Good luck in the future DB im sure will see you on Sundays
Dan comments on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=wall&ref=search&id=100000234356700
“Sorry Everyone I let down.”
I'd update my privacy settings if I were him.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
What the hell
How does UT let any of their athletes have public Facebook profiles after the whole Obama gaff.
Yeah, I feel like posting to it to tell him he needs to re-think that
Obviously his girlfriend broke up with him 3 days ago because it has a post that says “Day 3….. Felt like forever though” Looks like his actual site since it has so many personal photos. Dumb move there too. Nothing good can come from that public display.
What's with the facebook thing?
Why do people post so much crap on that stupid site (and MySpace, and Twitter, etc.)? Vanity?
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
It's just an online extension of people's social lives.
I know some people like to think of it as exhibit A as proof that we’re a society of attention whores (which is probably true to a certain extent), but I think if our great, great, grandparents had everything we do today, they’d probably use it just the same as we do.
Social networking sites are just tools for personal expression. The tools we have to communicate play a big part in how we represent ourselves and interact with others basically helping form social standards on the fly.
I hope that made sense. I’m not exactly sober at the moment.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Personal expression?
Usually what people put on those sites is re-posting of stuff from elsewhere, like a funny YouTube video or a joke. Seems to me most are expressing other people, not themselves, in that case.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
It is a tool to share information and communicate with friends quickly
It actually does a really great job of it too, which is why so many people use it. Don’t hate the tool because tools use it.
Something more ?
Maybe we are entering the zero tolerance zone, or he was already on an internal probation with Coach Brown or something. Seems like something more to it.
Best of luck DB—make it a learning lesson and get back on the field somewhere and make us proud.
by Wrangler86 on Jan 14, 2010 5:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Per Halliburton...
Hearing that this wasn’t first time Dan Buckner got in coaches’ dog house, which is why he decided to transfer so quickly after arrest.
by TexasTexasYeehaw on Jan 14, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
I hate saying this but this could very well be a blessing in disguise with Buckner leaving
Your telling me that the incoming Freshman aren’t going to want to step there game up! We thought it sucked when Ramonce left but we still had a great back in Jamall
Had the size but not the hands
The happiest person in Austin has to be Deshean Hales. In two weeks he’s moved up 3 spots on the Depth chart. Excluding recruits our WR’s with experience are: Williams, Kirkendoll, Monroe, Goodwin, Hales and Chiles. With Timmons and Fitzhenry as redshirts. Spring practice should be wide open. I hope that motivates these guys to work on their pass catching ability.
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