Britt Mitchell is the Weak Link of the Entire Offense
We need solutions to fix the offense and it begins on the line. Can we move Mason Walters to RT? Britt Mitchell isn't capable of holding his own this season.
David Snow and Michael Huey have performed fairly well so far. Is it my imagination or has David Snow played some RG in his career? I seem to remember him even playing RG last year in the Big 12 Championship against Suh.
Kyle Hix has been a major disappointment this season. However benching him would not be wise.
The coaches have been high on Mason Walters and even Muschamp has praised his toughness. The offensive tackle positions have become the most important in football since there are so many great defensive ends. I would feel better putting Walters at RT.
So what does BON think are the solutions to solve the O-Line issues?
I say we take a chance with Mason Walters at RT, move David Snow to RG, take a chance on Garrett Porter at center, and keep Huey and Hix where they are. Even if Porter struggles at least he has Snow and Huey to hopefully bail him out.
We have to look towards 2011 and what sort of line Malcolm Brown will be running behind. We need to bring Hopkins along so he has a chance to start next year. Getting Tray Allen back will be helpful.
We need a package with a fullback too. Put Jamison Berryhill in to clear some holes. Chris Whaley looks like an offensive lineman and would be interesting to throw into action at FB. If I was Cody Johnson and wanted to play in the NFL then I would ask the coaches to play fullback. Cody's 250 and Ron Dayne is not in the NFL hall of fame. We need a package with Cody and either DJ or Fozzy in the same backfield. We have to run the ball and be balanced. We've leaned way too much on GG and the receivers. We have not been well suited running 5 wide receiver sets and need to be creative in running the ball!
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If Mitchell were to get benched, Hopkins would play RT-
As you saw when Britt went out with an injury.
(Btw, any news on his injury?)
Has Hopkins Redshirt officially been pulled?
Seems like a waste of a year to only play him a few plays.
If he played a down, no more redshirt
And I think we should definitely get our money’s worth and give him significant snaps at RT for the rest of the year.
How well has he played?
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by Paleface Horn on Oct 27, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the problem
None of the back-ups are playing well enough to take the starters spots. We all say “Bench him”, but when you bench someone you better have somebody just as good behind him or it doesn’t do any good. There is not enough patience at this University to play the ‘Teach the starters a lesson by benching them’ game.
Our team wanted to make a big change in offense this year and it was gonna take everyone playing great for it to work. When it became apparent that there were weak links, we lost, then everyone began questioning themselves and the change. And here we are 4 games later, having gone through ups and downs, still wondering what the hell we’re gonna do.
Hopkins has not played well when filling in for Britt Mitchell
And that’s why the coaching staff needs to re-tool the O-line now. Hopkins was getting killed on the edge by the UCLA D.
Who will be our offensive tackles in 2011? Westerman? Hopkins? Paden Kelly? That’s why we need to try Walters at the position and take our chances sliding Snow to guard. I know its a lot to change centers midway through the season, but its worth trying it out with Porter. I don’t see any other solution this year for our line. I think Hopkins adds depth at OT this year, but not in a starting role.
by IAMLOVELLPINKNEY on Oct 27, 2010 6:06 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe we should try Hopkins Horn?
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Oct 27, 2010 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I like that idea!
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Kinda harsh title, don't ya think?
So Britt is the tissue paper link in an offensive chain of paper clips.
The real weakest link is whoever is running an offense where the weakest OL player gets no help from a RB/TE/FB/scheme/coaching/development and gets hung out to dry repeatedly.
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-- Brendan Behan --
I know people don't like any mention of EBS, but...
…wouldn’t it be a good idea to let the EBS do the B part? It’s not like the TEs are really doing anything in the receiving game.
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Used Whaley as an H-back in protection a couple times
and the new-to-the-Nebraska game set with two running backs is designed to be able to give help to both of the tackles if necessary. So, there is some scheming to help out tackles, but it hasn’t always been there on big plays like Lattimer’s forced fumble when Mitchell got beat badly outside after getting beat quite a few times inside.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Oct 28, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
EBS
Extra Blocking Surface. Term used in reference to TE’s (mainly Greg Smith) and his lack of athletic ability to go out and be used in the passing game. Therefore, he is just an extra blocking surface on the offensive line.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
*was* an extra blocking surface
Last year he displayed more effectiveness and consistency as a receiver than the wideouts collectively have this year.
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree 100%
I have been saying that Mitchell is, if not the weak link, the one that should take the blame anyway. Afterall, this guy is a 5th year Senior and get’s beat by every semi-athletic DE like he stole their money.
Get’em outta there and bring in somebody that could use the experience going in to next season. Hopkins is NOT an OT either. The kid is a G and should play Guard.
David Snow has been our best player on the line at Center and incase you didn’t notice last year and the year before, he is terrible at G.
I would like to see this going forward:
C Snow, RG Hopkins, RT Walters, LG Huey, LT Hix
I wouldn’t even mind seeing Hix slide back to RT and move Waters to the left side. It would give him the rest of the year to prepair at LT for 2011 and learn to protect Gilbert’s blind-side. Walters was a top rated OT coming out of high school.
Yeah Hopkins is a guard
I could live with that scenario. Hix could be better suited at RG. I know Snow got owned against Nebraska when they had him in at guard. Hall and Huey did as well. Snow has been great at center this year. Let’s hope Walters gets some action this year at tackle and he can start next year at LT.
by IAMLOVELLPINKNEY on Oct 27, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Walters could be a great RG
Maybe even All-Conference next year. That won’t be the case if he moves to LT.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Oct 28, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Not a bad idea at all.
Snow’s natural position is center. He didn’t fare well at guard.
Walters has adapted well. The LT move would be smart.
Again, as Zeno said, getting a FB/H-back assist would be great for whoever is the weakest link or whoever has a tough match-up.
The best is 2011
If Walters had experience protecting the blindside and Hopkins had almost a full season at RG (which is a better fit in the NFL for his body type), we would have in 2011:
C Snow,Sr.
LG Hopkins,Soph.
LT Walters,Soph
RG Allen,Sr.
RT Westerman,HS Fr.
With Malcolm Brown running behind them.
You know what's going to happen, right?
We’re going to score 35-38 points per game, win 10 plus, go to a BCS bowl, and bitch that the offense is boring and we want more downfield and sideways passes.
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by Paleface Horn on Oct 27, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
No one has ever
asked for more sideways passes, EVER!
by Lothor on Oct 28, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A few points
1. It appeared on camera that Mitchell has at least a sprained knee and will likely be out this week if not next (Oklahoma State). Mitchell does not hold up well when he’s not careful with his footwork – if he gets pushed onto his left foot, it’s over. Hopkins played well against Iowa State I thought because he’s been in six games and usually plays 5-6 plays at a time in place of Walters at G, and those were his first snaps at tackle. Not surprisingly, on his first snap at tackle, which was an obvious passing down, Greg Davis gives him no back or TE help, and the DE blows by Hopkins and Gilbert gives up the fumble. After that, though, Hopkins played well enough I thought. If anything, he has quicker feet than Mitchell, and might provide greater backside protection on runs to the middle and left. Likely he will be vulnerable to the power rush because he doesn’t have the long arms a tackle should have.
2. Snow has played guard and not done well because he’s vulnerable to 3-technique DT’s. Where he excels is in getting underneath a nose tackle or getting a combo block on a DT at the 2 or 3 position and then getting upfield into a LB. Texas can run the ball if they leave him at center, but not if he plays guard.
3. Walters is an awesome guard and might be all-conference next year once he gets a little better at pass blocking. He’s a good athlete for a OL and is simply outstanding at pulling on Power plays or counters and traps. IMO he is the key to Texas running because of his ability to pull and Huey’s inability to do so. He should stay exactly where he is.
4. Assuming Trey Allen comes back next year, he likely will take RG and Walters might move to LT. However, it’s certainly possible that Westerman will be good enough to take LT, and Paden Kelley or Hopkins will take RT, and Walters will move to LG.
5. Garrett Porter has gotten some snaps at center in a couple of games without disaster and remains a good backup for next year.
As far as the rest of this season, I like a backfield of Cody Johnson and Monroe/Fozzy/Newton. Cody can block at least as well as Roberson and proved against Oklahoma that he can catch passes downfield and possibly block for the wide receivers (since they aren’t going to do it for themselves). I think the coaches have gotten stuck in a rut with their use of the running backs in certain “packages” (If GD ever had a killer tendency, it’s that). With Cody plus a scatback, we could run I formation, pro set, shotgun with split backs, Ace (one back with CJ as an Hback), and even go 4 wide with Cody to pass block all in a no-huddle offense that emphasized running over passing. One can dream.
Herein lies a possible hidden issue amongst the team
and possibly block for the wide receivers (since they aren’t going to do it for eachother).
Perhaps there’s something there that we can’t see…
When it comes to offensive line
the key to a successful one is continuity. By using the suggestions you had you ultimately move 3 people in order to make one change. That upsets whatever continuity you had going on and you not only are you inserting one new person but you are changing the positions of 2 others.
Listen, I agree Britt Mitchell has been sub par. No doubt about it. But if you are going to make a change in season it is best to make one, not 3.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
+1
Completely agree coachEtch
I played center in college (small college in Nebraska) and we had more than a few problems on the offensive line. Our coach decided to make one move, that in turn forced 2 others. All the moves were good ideas, and would have helped the line dramaticall, but it just disrupted everything because it is something else that we needed to learn. The move was made halfway through the season and we ended up switchin back two games later. It is too difficult to move around three linemen because the responsibilities are so different. You get stuck in the midset you had when you played a different spot on the line, and its hard to break those habits and change them. The moves need to be made when the seasons over, everything will get worse if we try to do it now.
I, too, was a small college center
and it is true as the day as long. More than any other position on the field that group has to be on the same page in order to be successful. In my college offense we were no huddle and had a system where our first two calls at the line from the QB were dummy calls and then the following three identified the play, the side it was going to, and the snap count. So for instance, it would go like this; Nascar, Sky (2 dummy calls) Ruger (ruger is a powerful gun so the play was power; other two calls for it were Colt and Glock), James (if QB calls out a new testament book of the bible the play went to the right, old testament it went to the left (i went to a christian school)), White (red was on first sound, white is on one, blue was on two). So the play call went; Nascar, Sky, Ruger, James, White. He would call it twice and then give me a few seconds to call the blocking assignment for the line based off of the defensive alignment.
With that much going on, it took our offensive line time to come together and execute. However, when we were on, we were on. After a while my guards and tackles would get a feel for what I was going to call and also on combos we knew each others strengths and weaknesses so if i need to stay on longer before going to the second level or they did we knew that. If someone got injured we did not function as well as we could have, not because of a drop in talent level as much as a disruption in our continuity.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Agree
Build a solid foundation around LG Trey Allen, C David Snow and RG Mason Walters. Those three won’t have to learn new positions (Allen has played quite a bit of LG). Then you’ve got Flowers, Porter and Hopkins (from left to right) backing up those three in their natural positions. In any event the center of the line is solid for a few years to come
Stick to the plan of drive blocking with everyone in their natural positions. Maybe Paden Kelly really is a left tackle, I’m not at practice so don’t know how well he plays it. Assuming MacWhorter has him in the right spot then we’re down to needing a RT (Westerman?) followed by depth at both tackle spots. If Kelly doesn’t pan out then somebody, one of the backups at G or C, has to move.
But no more wholesale position changes, please.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Oct 28, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
good points all
But the three position move would happen IN THE OFF-SEASON. For this season, continuity is critical, and if Hopkins is the only guy ready for RT, then that’s what we’ll see, just a one person change..
As far as next year goes, a lot of what I said is not what I would necessarily do but more a prediction of what UT coaches are likely to do based on the past. Allen’s weakness has always been pass blocking, and Texas coaches have always tended to shift their most talented and/or experienced linemen to the left each year and they always put the best pass blockers on the left, even if that means they can’t pull and allow Texas to run to the right. It happened with Ulatoski in 2008, and again this year with Huey and Hix. Since Charles left and Ulatoski moved to the left, Texas’ ability to run basic running plays to the right has been compromised. Tanner was a fixture at LG because he could pass block, when he finally learned to recognize blitzers, but he was not so great at picking out the right defender to block in the running game.
As far as what would be best if you had carte blanche, continuity would be important.
If Mitchell needs directions
when he goes back to Kilgore/Longview then he should ask this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCXE9ZJb-RI
by IAMLOVELLPINKNEY on Oct 29, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
Future prospects
Walters has been a little slow to pick up pass protection and it’s important to remember that his projection as a Left Tackle star was based in his athleticism, not his on field performance where he was a lethal center. Also, he could be a badly needed star inside for us if he can hold down the left and pull as Burnt pointed out.
Mitchell is listed as starter this week with Kelly as backup at RT and Hopkins can’t fill in for him because he’s starting at Right Guard in place of Huey, who is out for the year.
You can be sure Hopkins will start somewhere next year because of how the staff has used him to plug holes all over the line this year. It’s important now though that other guys get good looks at tackle since we’ll be starting 2 new ones next year.
My best bet on the current staff’s pick on the line would be:
LT: Hopkins
Given how much playing time they’ve invested in him I think he’s the best bet. Personally, I want to see what Kelly, Walters and also Blake BrockenMeyer’s protege Mark Buchanon are capable of at some point this season as they are all more prototypical LT types than Hopkins.
LG: Walters
Like Burnt said, they move the more experienced guards here because the passing game is most highly prioritized by Davis.
C: Snow
He’s not moving, he can be all-conference at this position, if he isn’t already.
RG: Allen if he’s healthy, otherwise I’m betting on Ashcraft. All this assumes one of the freshmen doesn’t come in ready to take over somewhere, btw. That’s a very real possibility.
RT: Whoever is deemed least worthy to play LT. Kelly seems like a good bet given that he’s been 2nd into the fire after Hopkins this year.
It should be very clear from this year’s personnel that Texas should be built around running the ball. Even if it wasn’t it’s blindingly obvious about next year’s unit.

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