Something's Different This Time
by Peter Bean on Oct 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT
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PrintFollowing my prediction that if Mack Brown intends to keep coaching a bit longer, this will be the offseason he finally parts with Greg Davis, I was asked why this year might be different, to which I replied:
A lot of people think the same thing you do. And I suppose I may revise my position at the end of the season, depending how things go from here.But as of today, I can tell you that my sense is that the frustration and outright anger right now is at a different level than anything I've seen before. It hasn't been that long, but we're in a very different media environment today than we were even in 2003-04, the last time Greg Davis anger reached a boil.
While there was a good deal of anger during the disappointing 2006-07 seasons, there was still so much intoxication from the national title and VY-offense that there was restraint in the anger. It was more frustration and disappointment.
I think right now people are outright pissed. My sense is that this is different.
And now this morning, I see this interview with former UT standout Johnny Walker (read the whole thing):
What is your gut reaction from the loss to Iowa State?Johnny Walker: First thing's first - it is completely unacceptable to lose to Iowa State. I think Greg Davis needs to resign as the offensive coordinator. I'm not for firing him, and I think he can stay on as the quarterback's coach, but I think its time to hand over the reins to Major Applewhite and let him call plays. I'm not for bashing on coaches, but I saw a big problem yesterday. When you're playing against a team in Iowa State that had lost by six touchdowns each of the past two weeks, surely there's something Utah and Oklahoma did to exploit something in their defense. You would think you'd have a game plan that featured some of what they did or at least something you do similarly that you feel will work just as well. They had no game plan. That part has nothing to do with players or anything like that - it is 100 percent coaching and that's completely unacceptable.
To see a former player call out the coaches so specifically, and so unequivocally, is not something that we've seen very often.
We'll see how things play out the rest of the way, but my gut feeling is that if the mood isn't substantially improved by the time this season wraps up, this is the end. Either Mack will decide he's had enough, or he'll make a change.
First things first, though... Let's beat Baylor this weekend.
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Couldn't agree more
Davis has been an awful offensive coach for his entire tenure at Texas. That UT has an enormous talent advantage over everyone else in the B12 does not hide his faults from knowing eyes.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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This is one of the best articles/writings on this topic.
Greg Davis has been able to keep the pressure of him mostly due to Mack, but because even during the ‘07 season, it was the defense that was struggling not the offense. Funny thing is when you look at offensive stats the past 5 seasons, I have no doubt that Texas would rank in the top 5, with the exception of the run game. Remember in ’06 and ’07 with Colt starting his first season and then when he struggled his sophomore year he had Jamaal Charles behind him and it really helped the offense not be stagnant. Now I don’t know the DJ Monroe is the next Charles, but the other running backs are not able to cover Garrett’s miscues like JC did for Colt in ’07.
I know as a UT fan I am pissed and I am throwing a lot of the blame in GD’s direction. I could imagine what is being said by alum’s and big time donor’s that contribute money to the program. I think some people miss the point that big time college football is a business that helps drive the rest of the athletic department. The people that donate money may sit behind the scenes, but they have a big voice when it comes to the coaching staff.
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
2007 offense was inconsistant and turnover prone
In 07, the o-line pass protection was shaky, Jamaal Charles was almost benched due to fumbling, Colt threw 20 or so picks, Limas got hurt and we failed to move the ball consistantly (not like this season however).
As bad as the defense was in pass coverage, the offense, while more explosive with Charles, wasn’t elite and failed to run the ball consistantly or avoid turnovers. They were explosive and racked up obscene yards against Okie St & Nebraska in comeback victories.
Davis has built consistantly successful offenses over the years, and before the Iowa St game, I could see him sticking on as long as we got new direction on our oline. But Johnny Walker is right, you don’t lose to Iowa St and Davis needs to go as offensive coordinator.
We’ve been trending downward on offense since the Fiesta Bowl and I think a change is overdue, even allowing Major to call plays now.
is it possible that major applewhite called the nebraska game
by DavidB64 on Oct 28, 2010 9:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What odds would you give on Major having called the game?
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Oct 28, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I continue to remain cynical about Mack firing or demoting GD
But I do agree that the level of anger emanating from Mack is unprecedented. He is not happy.
I thought I made my peace with GD years ago: I understood things he was good at and things he wasn’t. Boy, was I wrong. I’m one of those people who give him a bit more credit than others for the 2005 season, but I would not be opposed to him leaving. I’m not angry anymore; I’m just tired. Tired of having this conversation about Davis for years, tired of being confused by what we’re doing on offense, tired of watching watching less talented offenses do more than we do. It just wears me out watching our offense right now.
by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I agree with that.
I have that same feeling about being tired. Even for this past week I am tired trying to think how this team is going to come our for Baylor.
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
by HornsRiverine on Oct 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I don't understand
about the stubbornness of Davis supporters. Lets say, in some monumental oversight of logic and observation, that they are, in fact, correct, and that Davis is a competent OC. I can’t imagine how you wouldn’t want a new OC just to end this incessant arguing.
by BrooklynHorn on Oct 28, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, BrooklynHorn
I said as much on another thread a couple of days ago. I have defended GD, not because I like his overly conservative, horizontal passing game but because I strongly suspect this is a reflection of Brown’s playing not to lose philosophy, and because I think it is unfair when Davis is singled out when so much more is wrong. However, I think he should quit because the anger has reached the point where he is blamed for everything, including things that are not his fault, like problems on the defense, dropped balls, and Gilbert’s growing pains. Many fans cannot see past their anger at him at this time. He has to go so we can then clearly evaluate what else needs to be fixed without this incessant debate over GD. I must admit though I am not sure how we will spend our free time when we no longer have GD to “kick around.” Things will be alot duller around BON.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Well if Mack is this mad again
then hopefully well see some change. Its definitely what let to the hiring of Muschamp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbmeRVfPrLU
The train is acomin'
Climb on board or get steamrolled along with GD Mack.
"I don't know. You'll have to ask Greg (Davis). He calls the plays." - Mack Brown
by iamjackburton on Oct 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Fine article and powerful insight from a former player and ex-OC himself.
If Major was calling plays trust me he [DJ Monroe] would set the world on fire for Texas. – Johnny Walker
When you don’t make the decisions you need to, you wind up making the decisions you have to. Or you will no longer in the position to make decisions.
Talked to a powerful Baylor alum who will be on the sideline Saturday. They’re afraid of the Texas defense and know their own is poor. But I heard no fear of the Texas offense.
Mackovic maybe?
Perhaps there is enough residual disdain for him to warrant finding him wherever he is and giving him a swirly?
Major?
I don’t know how I feel about him as OC. There seem to plenty of better candidates. Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but no one has really talked about what he would bring to the table. Can someone please sell me on Major as OC?
I think Major as OC is a temporary band-aid for this year. Not sure if anyone is calling for him long term, yet.
But, he has experience as OC at both Rice and Alabama and he should be familiar with Texas’ players and general philosophy.
He would at least be somebody other than GD
and I think most people are willing to try anything other than GD with the assumption that anything is better than GD.
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Oct 28, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the most natural (and least painless) of the options
Major has skills and experience, he’s at the right age (30) to take this on. This is really one of the things we need to know…can he do this job. He projects as a head coach at some point, so Texas has a vested interest in both his and the school’s future.
Right now he has not been in a position of control and the only way to discover if he can produce is give him the power and control. In a definite sense, this would be an audition. Then we (and Muschamp) would know where we stand. It has become a time to know things definitively.
Major would make a lovely sofa.
Not sure how good he would be as a couch, though.
Do you think Major would make a good leather couch? He's way better than microfiber...
by SneezyBeltran on Oct 28, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinal Biggles!
Poke him with…. The Comfy Chair Major Appelwhite!
But is the team and fanbase willing to possibly waste a year
In an attempt to see if he is up for the job? Even if GD was fired and replaced by Major right now, there is no way Major doesn’t have the job again for at least next year.
I like Major, but I’d rather hire an OC that has already proven they can succeed at this level.
We waste most years anyway
Demoting Greg Davis immediately following Eyes and giving the challenge to Major would be a gutsy move. That’s not Mack’s style for several reasons, including logistical issues that might prove disasterous (who moves to the sideline or press box) that he likes worked out earlier in the year.
I'm talking about the rest of THIS season. Right now.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
You’re not going to hire an OC mid-season.
Yes, it was obvious
My point was that I doubt, given Mack’s opinion of Major and Major’s history with the program, that he only has him in that position for the rest of this season and then fires/re-demotes him. If Major is given the OC position I think he will be given at least one FULL season to prove himself.
I always thought it was Major's job as the running backs coach
to sub in the running backs as needed.
Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman
Something is different this time
On how he deals with coaches during difficult times:
What I do is I’m very direct with them. Terry Donahue told me one time something that really touched my heart. Terry was the long-time coach at UCLA and he retired, and I was coaching in an all-star game with him probably in the mid 90s. I said, "Coach, if you had to do over something, what would you do different?" He said, "There’s one thing that I would definitely do different." He said, "I fired four guys in my 20 years at UCLA and all four of them came up to me afterwards and said, ‘Why are you firing me, I’m so surprised.’" So you need to make sure that your coaches understand their job descriptions – what you’re expecting of them. If they don’t get that done, you need to try again. And if they don’t get it done then at some point you have to make decisions whether you can help him or change him. That’s what you have to do. The coaches understand it. Everybody in our building is fully aware that we need to fix some things that are going on.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Oct 28, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions
If Greg Davis says he's surprised
Mack should just hit him on the back of the head and say, “Iowa St.”
Is Mack dropping a hint with this story?
I’m tempted to say he wouldn’t be so transparent. Then again . . . .
I think he's clearly calling them out
and laying the groundwork to fire someone, and Greg Davis seems the logical choice. The problem with publicly saying now that the coaches have to reach a certain standard or get fired, is what happens if Texas wins out? Then he’s talked himself into a corner where it would be hard to fire GD.
I think he's letting the fans know
that he is aware of what’s going on with the offense and that he’s going to make a move if things don’t improve. I think that the discussions behind closed doors are even more to the point…“If we as a staff don’t get this straightened out I’m going to have to make staff changes.”
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Oct 28, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah, Mack's trying to defend giving chances, actually
I heard this interview on the car radio yesterday & got the feeling that Mack was explaining and defending his inaction to the public, by trying to explain that staff need to be given a chance.
His bias, as we all well know, is to try to save GD’s job. He will continue to choose his best friend over the university that pays him millions as long as his own job is still intact (no pressure from DeLoss/Board). And it will be, as the only challenging games remaining are Baylor and OK State.
http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2010/10/05/headline-greg-davis-to-remain-forever/
If that football had hit the railing 1 second later, Mack Brown would be on the hotseat for not calling a time-out. Luck happens, despite 9 sacks. So instead we're now paying a sideline clapper $5+ million a year for the next decade to safeguard his best friend Greg Davis and other "family" in the good-ol-boys club.
All games will be challenging the way Texas is playing.
Maybe not FAU but K State and aTm will not be a cake walk.
ATX
undoubtably he is calling out the coaches but...
… the thing is if he keeps this up.
i suspect if we do better in the rest of the year, and the criticism from the fans will die down, then mack will just keep GD around. right now, hes doing it based on pressure and based on keeping his ass covered.
if we loose more, he will fire GD i think. but more than likely, things will get better and all will be forgotten.
this is a way for mack to appease people right now and keep his options open. again, this is mack being mack hoping to keep GD around knowing shit is as bad as it probably will be.
by vanterminatorhorn on Oct 28, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Mack will post the
’05 depth chart and hope nobody notices.
There were 6 guys on D and 5 on O that played well enough to beat ISU
Apply two permutations and there’s your depth chart.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
by Magnificent Bastard on Oct 28, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
They play both sides?
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
I've been wondering the same thing.
I have read though, that Davis will be starting at flanker, with Hales as #2, M. Williams and Kirkendoll are co-starters at split end, Chiles will be starting over Goodwin, and Tre Newton will get the start at RB.
Defensiveley E. Acho will be back at middle linebacker and Dravannti Johnson will take the strong side linebacker spot. That is all I’ve heard so far.
former UT standout Johnny Walker
Love his red label.
Black label even better.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
by OBdoc on Oct 29, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I'll have a nice 4 hour interview with Johnny Walker
this Saturday during the Baylor game.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
This is an interesting quote
from the article ’Mack’s Final thoughts: Baylor’ from the same website this interview came from:
*Mack said he’s been very direct with the coaches this week as he always is with them. He said former UCLA head coach Terry Donahue gave him some good advice about firing coaches – basically saying to make sure that the coaches know what is expected of them and that they are given every chance to to fulfill their obligations. Mack said he took that to heart and will give his assistants every chance he can for them to fix things and if in the end its not working, then he said he will decide what needs to take place. He said right now the offensive and defensive staffs are working together to fix what is wrong on both sides of the ball.
shit happens
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Oct 28, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Funny...
Look at the rankings… can you really tell me that the guys in the top 10 have better players than us?, how come do we still have a team like Baylor with a better offense than us?, #1 recruiting class?… the best college sports revenue machine?, 5 star players?… it’s all coaching…, we need someone to bring a modern offense… deep plays, trick plays… modern football!!!… I can call a UT game on offense from my house.. imagine a defensive coordinator against us?, we have like 5 plays?, east and west… 5% north.. and with our offensive line.. we go south several times.. btw… funny article of the day.. Joe Girardi from the NEW YORK YANKEES just became one of the top 5 paid managers in the MLB… 3 million a year.., our Mack?… 5.1 Million…, now tell me heads shouldnt be rolling NOW… not by the end of the year…, wanna see football?, see Oregon, Boise…, that’s an offensive coordinator with balls….
Sorry… i said it…; hook’em!
Dual Threat Qb
Its the answer for Texas.
Can any body tell me why we past up on so many dual threat qbs out of he state of Texas in the 09 recruiting class
Gilbert is a Dual-Thread QB
He can throw an interception OR fumble!
I kid because I care.
Dual-Threat QBs
Russell Shepherd was considered, but could not beat out Jefferson at LSU. Not sure he’s the solution.
John Chiles was a dual-threat. How’d that work out at QB?
Recruiting dual-threats is not the issue. 99% of teams take Gilbert. Recruiting is not the issue. In fact, up until the Iowa St game, I thought Gilbert was the best thing about our offense when you evaluate receivers, backs and o-line.
Agreed
It’s not the talent, GG was the #1 HS player in the US when he was recruited.
And we do have some former HS dual-threat QBs on the roster, like Demarco Cobbs and John Harris.
GG was the #1 HS player in the US when he was recruited.
That would have been Matt Barkley. And judging by how they are performing its not even close.
Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman
Barkley was from the year before.
They both won the Gatorade Player of the Year award… in different years.
You Are Correct Sir
Barkley in 2007, Gilbert in 2008.
Gilbert was the Gatorade and Parade National Player of the Year, EA Sports Mr. Football USA and USA Today’s Offensive Player of the Year in 2008.
No
Both were recruiting class of 2009.
by Horncasting on Oct 28, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
not true, both were same year, went to the quarterback competitons together. aaron murray was same yr too
by vanterminatorhorn on Oct 28, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree
Gilbert is not the primary issue. Rather it is a combination of a poor offensive line, lack of a running game, no tight end threat (look what David Thomas did for VY in 2005), receivers that either do not catch the ball or run routes short of the 1st down marker and finally – play calling.
My take
Is that Mack/Davis were terrible at evaluating dual-threat QB’s after VY, had 2 pretty big misses at it in Harris and Chiles (not to mention the Ryan P. fiasco – not their fault), and just quit trying.
You are right that a dual-threat QB is not the real issue, but it sure could hide alot of the issues.
Revisionist Recuiting History
I hear what you’re saying, but….
Perhaps you have alternative info, but I don’t recall much hoopla about Griffin, over the likes of Chiles (widely celebrated as a dual-threat badass in high school). Briles had RGIII locked and loaded at UH even before he moved to Baylor. We’d be a bunch of Johnny-Come-Latelies with both McCoy & Chiles above him on the depth chart.
Then, what would RGIII do at Texas at QB? He’d run for his life, be coached not to run, and those beautifully-executed screen passes at Baylor, they would get blown up by our non-blocking line & receivers.
And, do you think RGIII would like to sit on the bench for two years watching Colt? He’d come into this season unpolished and without the trust of the coaching staff.
Let it be. Recruiting is not the problem.
As you probably know
My RGIII fetish is borderline creepy, so I’m not trying to make a broader point other than, “Why didn’t we want him. I WANT HIM.”
Anyway, we didn’t think he had the chops for the position. We were wrong. It sucks.
You ain't hurt...
wanna see football?, see Oregon, Boise
I refuse to watch Boise until they ditch that gimmicky blue turf.
Garret Gilbert Grape
this truly is his true freshman year
Um.. give me
Someone from boise or Oregon pls…
I don’t want anyone associated with this yr’s offense to be the new OC
by jtdiddy on Oct 28, 2010 3:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
ITS SIMPLE...
…all mack’s words mean right now is:
we loose more, GD canned
we get better, I keep my buddy around while letting the fans know that im ‘willing’ to crack some heads…
is anything different, well in talk yes, in action, it really remains to be seen. i suspect even with all the talk right now, nothing happens at the end, at most, mcwhorter gets canned to appease the fans and thats it.
by vanterminatorhorn on Oct 28, 2010 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
I don't mean to be that guy but
loose = free from attachment (one among several definitions, some more colorful than others)
lose = to fail to win (as you are using it)
It seems I’ve been seeing that a lot lately, not just from you. My mind always stalls when reading that.
I'll Pass on an OC from Boise
Until they play a full slate of FBS teams.
I don’t know if Boise’s OC really runs their offense or if Chris Peterson does but they have exactly the kind of offense we should be running. Boise has a rep as a gimmick offense because of their Fiesta Bowl trick plays but in reality they run a pro-style run first offense. Their running game is so good that the opposing defense always has seven or eight in the box, even in three wide sets.
The trick plays aren’t even the icing on Boise’s cake. The running game is the cake, play action is the icing. The trick plays are frosting decorations filled with cocaine.
This is all really amazing.
We are all on pins and needles to see if UT can beat Baylor, and many of us would take Baylor +7 and don’t think they will need the points. I don’t think this team can beat K-State, OK State or A&M. Hello Bridge Point Education Holiday Bowl if UT wins or how about the Texas bowl if they lose so that Michigan kid can embarrass this D some more. I think UT should decline the stomping they will receive versus any PAC 10/Big 10 team
If GG throws the pick balls he did last game again – its time to see what the young guns have. I keep saying it, put the FB/HB in and run the ball. Run it three times, Punt. Run it three times, Punt. Run it three times, Punt, IDC but Lord Jesus if I see that Colt McCoy offense again I may vomit.
Give me a tough smart DC that stuffs the run by recruiting run stuffers in the middle/ a run first oriented OC that can gameplan better than a 6yr old madden player/ and a game day coach not a CEO. All positions open battle and take a look at the other QBs. I also don’t care what they have to do, but they better get this OL problem squared away or we will be doing this again a year from now.
Which is why they'll never turn down a bowl game
getting the OL squared away that is. They need the extra 20 or so practices to get them ready for the spring.
I kind of like your idea of running it three times every series. No sacks, no INT’s and we likely get to keep our QB for the entire year. Basically an ultimatum to the OL that either you run block or we punt the effing football every series…your choice. Of course that’s not practical but I’d like to see GG down to 20 pass attempts, not 57.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Oct 28, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Winning out, or winnning .500 from here on out does this team NO GOOD
It will be a band-aid, and another excuse for Mack to keep his “little buddy”. I will gladly take one FUBAR year filled with misery and heartache if it means I don’t have to endure it for two, three, four more years with the same cast of clowns.
"I don't know. You'll have to ask Greg (Davis). He calls the plays." - Mack Brown
by iamjackburton on Oct 28, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Does Major = Upgrade?
It’s a small sample size, but I look at Rice’s performance in Major’s one year as OC/QB coach. I must wonder what he would do with these players.
Rice. Major as OC. First bowl game in forty years.
While we don’t know who was really making the calls at Rice, while we suspect that Major was hamstrung(?) at Bama, I believe he constitutes an upgrade from GD.
In addition to the wizardry that took place at Rice (for which he deserves at least some credit), there is also his record as a cerebral a QB. When he was QB, I must have read a dozen stories about his football study habits. You might recall, the interviews of his girlfriend describing his insatiable need for game film. He dissected the offense front to back to front again because he understood the benefits of adjusting his game in order to avoid past mistakes and to seize upon the flaws of future opponents.
I have been reluctant to call for a Major Applewhite promotion/GD demotion, but upon my more recent reflection on his intense intellectual pursuit of the game (as QB) coupled with stories of his vision/voice being stifled in recruiting, I now adopt the position that he should be elevated within the UT staff. If that means replacing Davis outright, so be it.
Clarification
Applewhite’s tenacity in film study, while just anecdotal, suggests at very least a desire to consume as much knowledge about his team and his opponents, and then apply lessons learned to future game plans. This is a trait GD demonstrably lacks. As illustrated by Johnny Walker, any coach worth keeping would have identified the flaws in ISU’s defense as demonstrated by ISU’s previous opponents, and once identified, a decent coach would beat the hell out of those flaws until ISU fixed them. Instead, we get more randomized gameplan.
Applewhite was long gone from Rice in '08
However, his impact on the program possibly contributed to their 10-3 season.
"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."
Applewhite equals field general
He was a leader when he played and will be a leader as an OC where ever he works.
Unbiased observations from a PAC-10 board about Texas
http://forum.goazcats.com/showthread.php?p=1471678
It is unbelievable that Mack hasn’t been able to recruit a RB since Charles that is worth a damn. The talent is more than there, the problem with Texas is coaching and scheming.
What must be frustrating, if you’re a Texas fan, is that Greg Davis keeps winning postseason awards. The guy can’t be fired no matter how much he sucks.
He is also already a miserable failure as a head coach, so there’s no chance of another school stupidly hiring him away.
Former Texas DBs: Greg Davis will be around as long as Mack Brown is
http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2010/10/05/headline-greg-davis-to-remain-forever/
TG: Do I have any hope that Greg Davis will be fired?
DB#1: None at all. Coach Davis was in Mack’s wedding. He is his best friend. Mack really is all about family. There is no possible way that Greg Davis leaves the employ of the University of Texas before Mack Brown.
Greg Davis is part of the family. You might as well expect Mack to fire Sally. It would be against everything that Mack is about.
I project this will be Davis’s last year coaching at UT. He will “voluntarily” step down after being ask to step down.
By god I hope you are right!
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Would be nice, but who's going to ask him to?
MB, DeLoss, Powers, the Board? MB won’t do it unless someone powerful ABSOLUTELY INSISTS on it, and even if that happens, there’s no forcing a HC, who’s already got his own sweet contract signed, to act.
McWhorter will be the scapegoat who gets the ax under MB, if anyone at all
If that football had hit the railing 1 second later, Mack Brown would be on the hotseat for not calling a time-out. Luck happens, despite 9 sacks. So instead we're now paying a sideline clapper $5+ million a year thru 2016 to safeguard his best friend Greg Davis and other "family" in the good-ol-boys club.
Heck yeah something is “different this time”. They are playing like girls,,middle school girls. Even The Davis and his buddy The Brownie are acting like middle school girls. I’m taking bubbles and glittery confetti to the game,,and participation ribbons to hand out to all our pretty players in their pretty uniforms after we get our pretty arses handed to us by THE BAYLOR BEARS??? Max out your credit cards,,,surely the end of the world is at hand.
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
You can make a drinking game of it if you start at the beginning game...
every time a wide receiver screen or a bubble screen play is called you take a shot. By the end of the first quarter you will most likely not be able to stand and will most likely be too drunk to care what is happening with the game.
ATX
Based on one summer of teaching middle school students,
there are a lot of middle school girls that put up a better fight than this offense.
Sorry PB ...
I am afraid I’ll have to disagree with you. I’ve seen this act play out with numerous coaches through the years – Bum got his w/ the Oilers because he wouldn’t hire an offensive coordinator. Most head coaches don’t appreciate being told what to do with their assistants.
I see a stubbornness here of ‘going down with the ship’ and this ship is taking on a little water right now. Mack Brown must be acutely aware of the criticism of GD & the offense through the years. The irony is he wouldn’t have allowed similar malfeasance on defense to continue.
I have to commend
A solid use of ‘malfeasance’. That is all.
(And I hope you’re wrong.)
Hook ’em
You ain't hurt...
GD is a Conudrum
Mack should have fired him years ago.Now it is a myth that GD was in Salley’s wedding or that he has nakid pics of Mack.
I have praised GD’s skills as a QB coach and disparaged his abilitiy as a game day play caller.He was praised for his work with VY but in reality he held him back until Vince told him let my people go.
It hurt me to see the game pass Tom Landry by.He called the same play to open every game and everyone saw it and stuffed it.Now every team knows GD’s play book sprikled with horizontal running,bubble screens and short sideline passes.The game has passed him by and it’s time for him to move on.
Now we have screamed for his head before but the difference this time is the National Media agrees with us.
Mack is now in a chess game and he better think 7 moves ahead or sacrifice Davis.
by TCB Orange Dino on Oct 28, 2010 11:54 PM CDT reply actions
Hey PB
I finally discovered some of you older stuff in BON classic from back when you were going by 54b. Truly great stuff. I especially liked the expose on the different types of horns fans.
54b
Is his own man. He’s still around, but has been too busy to post much this season.
You ain't hurt...
Okay,
So, either 54b is your pseudonym and you are cheekily relishing the whole pseudonym thing, or a lot of people commenting on the articles were giving 54b credit for your work.
No no
54b is a separate author of this site. He’s still around. Just hasn’t been posting much lately.
You ain't hurt...
I see where I went wrong.
I looked back at the article and noticed that it was authored by 54b, but you had posted it for him. I like your stuff, but I also wish 54b would stop by to crack us up once in a while with his “The Onion”-esque observational comedy.
Major Morpher Concerns
Basically there are 2 types of OCs. There are the system, try to stop us, this is what we do kind of guy. Like Oregon, Boise, Tech under Leach. Go ahead and study us – this is what we do – good luck trying to stop us. Then there are the morphers. They want to analyze the defense. They want to “take what they give us”. They use words like flexible, multiple etc. GD is a morpher, and a good one at that. If you give that guy time to study, like a bowl game, he will prolly deliver some results.
I want a system guy at UT. The cocky, arrogant, in your face system guy. The guy that analyzes every recruit to see where he will fit my system before offering guy. Does Major have that on his resume? Just go pay 3 quarters large and go get the best damn OC in the country.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Morpher?
We are going to throw a hand full of WR screens, a hand full of bubble screens, run out of the shotgun, and throw farther than 15 yards twice a game. Good luck trying to stop us
Damn it
I stole OBdoc’s post right below.
Quite allright, great minds, etc.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Disagree
Davis, to me, does not seem a “morpher” at all. That’s his problem. He does not for the most part (unless he has an off week) try and exploit a team’s weakness. Instead, it seems he performs like a “systems” guy. He says we are going to throw the bubble screen 2 dozen times a game, whether it works or not. We are going to send our receivers a yard short of the down marker on third down. We are going to create a pile in the middle of the field and run our RB into the middle of it. We are going to run a few slowly developing reverses and misdirection plays.. Try and stop us! Unfortunately, they do.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
How could he scheme for each game?
Where would he find the time to come up with excuses for not playing DJ Monroe more if spent time tailoring his gameplan to the upcoming opponent?
A yes, the mystical calculus of getting DJ Monroe the ball.
A puzzle unsolvable by the greatest football minds…
But the laws of Physics tell us
that the shortest distance between two points is DJ.
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Oct 29, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Re the "Fan Confidence Poll"
we might need some negative numbers after this game.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Just wondering,,,
We have an alumni band,,and they perform. They are even good,,,better than most other regulation college bands. We have alumni cheerleaders,,and they perform. Would there be any way ,,any way at all,,,that we could get say ummmm,,,an alumni coach to come perform? Or possibly some alumni PLAYERS?
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
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