Pundit Roundup Comes Out of Hibernation! Again!

Like the Texas football team, the PR Crew decided to take a few weeks off this season. Unlike the Texas Football team, I think the excuses (i.e. work) for the break in PR columns are actually legitimate. We even aggressively sought out a fellow BON writer to help fill the writing void for this week.
After the jump, this week's edition discusses the "war" reference made by Derek Dooley, highlights the importance of a single sentence in an older column from Kirk Bohls, and adds a new--and unique--member to the Philosopher's Club.
THE SILLY BATTLE OVER DEREK DOOLEY'S WWII REFERENCE
by 40AS
This week's winner of the misguided rush to judgment award is Gregg Doyel of CBSSports.com for this tweet about Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley:
Derek Dooley just compared his team to the D-Day invasion, when thousands of Americans died. Kiffin's gone, and the UT coach got dumber?
Let's get right into this. What, exactly, did Derek Dooley do? Did he call his men soldiers like Kellen Winslow? Did he suggest his football team losing was comparable to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor like Nick Saban? Did he compare his football team to an invasion? No, of course not. He made an intelligent, deep, sophisticated, historically accurate analogy. Oh the horror!
Dooley said at his Monday presser:
"Right now we're like the Germans in World War II. Here comes the boats, they're coming. You got the binoculars ... it's like, ‘Oh, my God, the invasion is coming' I don't want the German people to get upset at me, I'm not attacking them, but that's what happened. You had one group, they weren't worried about what the plan was and orders and all that. When the war hits, things change. You've got to go. You had the other group, and they go, ‘Wait a minute, they told us the invasion was way further north,' where we had the empty tanks and we were hiding Patton out. ‘We weren't ready for this, now what do we do?' ‘We better wait until Rommel tells us what to do.'"
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Now, full disclosure, last season I compared A&M mistakes in the Texas-Aggy game to the Egyptian army's decision to come out from under the safety of air cover, texting AO the following: "in 73, when the Egyptians came out from under air cover to attack the Israelis and got clobbered, an Israeli general called it the moment they started acting like them and we acted like us...feels like that a bit."
So maybe I'm just a sucker for good historical analogies.
It may seem like semantics, but there's a huge chasm between somebody comparing football to something
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Hey, You know who's Notre LAME? Rick McMahan! Likely based on Lane Kiffin's statement that Matt Barkley would be a "front-runner" for the Heisman if USC hadnt lost two games, McMahan wrote a very disjointed article over the issue. Now, there's a lot to be said for Matt Barkley having a quietly underrated season. He's played really well, and he's on a roll. His last two games against Stanford and California have been particularly impressive. There's also a lot to be said for the tendency to place too much emphasis on a team's record in picking Heisman candidates, instead of an individual's contribution to that record. There's even potentially something to be said about USC receiving less coverage than usual due to their sanctions, which will hurt Barkley's Heisman chances. This article touches on these points, but then it goes too far in trying to prove its premise. After failing to mention that Barkley had some clunkers against weaker competition, the article says "if leadership was a quantifiable trait, Barkley would be leading the country in this department, too." Naw, dawg. Just....no. Not even gonna go there. Matt Barkley may very well wind up being a legitimate Heisman candidate. The Trojans' marquee game against Oregon this week could legitimize his candidacy and put him in the discussion. But let's wait and see what happens in his next few starts before prematurely giving him additional points for good looks, moxie, leadership, or any other intangibles. Right now, Barkley is a very, very good QB for a barely ranked team whose coach wishes he was a great QB for a highly ranked team. And that's about it. |
Football is not war, but war sometimes produces men leading at their finest and often men failing to lead. These successes and failures teach us things, and there should be no shame in a coach using those lessons. Of course for Doyel it must have seen like low-hanging fruit in a profession that has become entirely relying on those types of catches for sustenance.
Anyone that is familiar with famed military historian Victor David Hanssen would find Dooley's comments familiar. Rather than compare his team to the D-Day invasion, as Doyel alleges, Dooley is saying that his team has no individual leadership at the player level. This critical leadership void prevents the players from doing what is necessary without guidance from the top, similar to the German defense under Rommel being hampered by their overreliance on his orders at a time when initiative was needed (Rommel was at a wedding at the time). Initiative at the individual level - which Tennessee apparently lacks - is a facet of successful leadership in almost everything, so a big kudos to Derek Dooley for an apt metaphor.
We won't issue judgment over whether Dooley's actually good coach, but he'd make a good historian. Doyel on the other hand...
WHEN A LITTLE SAYS A LOT
by txtwstr7
"I've never done it before, but I thought, 'You know what? There's still a bunch of games to be played. Who knows what can happen?' Heck, LSU got in it a few years ago with two losses, right? Some people don't see the game, only look at the score, as they vote." Usually, players are the only ones admitted to the Philosopher's Club, since they tend to philosophize--especially on Twitter--at an extremely high level. But, this week, the Club is going to buck that trend and make an exception for Bob Stoops. His quote after the Missouri game succinctly summarizes the deepest problems within both the media and the BCS system. I'm not saying what Bob Stoops did was right, but I understand the rationale for his decision. And that's just sad.
I think everyone agrees it was pretty incredible that Pat Forde received carte blanche access to the UT Football Program for a week. It was a win-win. Pat wrote a dynamite article to a worldwide audience, and Mack's hagiography was read by a worldwide audience. The article served a lot of purposes. It gave fans a wider perspective of Mack Brown. It gave recruits a better glimpse into Texas Football. And, apparently, it gave Kirk Bohls an excuse to avoid doing his job a few weeks ago.
Now, I don't usually read his columns, but this one produced a series of e-mails among the BON authors. It's from a few weeks ago, but it remains appropriate for our purposes here at Pundit Roundup.
The article didn't really break any new ground (shocking, I know) in the buildup to the Nebraska game, but one sentence particularly stands out. In the article, Bohls said "fans have to wonder if Mack is preaching accountability. With his staff as well as his players. We're hopeful, but just not sure, because only Pat Forde is allowed behind closed doors."
If you want to know why local sportswriters are a dying breed, that sentence probably tells you everything you need to know. This piece of "commentary"--not reporting--simply involves admitting ignorance of a closed-door issue and taking a potshot at someone who got better access. That's what unpaid and whiny bloggers do! Not good enough, Kirk...
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Rough timing on the Notre Lame pic...
Hey, the system is not perfect. But, it's better than the one we had. Um, really? Joe Paterno led 4 undefeated teams under the old system that were not National Champions. With this "better" system, we've only had to endure a BCS controversy OR an inconclusive end to the following seasons: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.
Sorry, PR, I gotta go with Kirk on this one.
And that’s a rarity.
He, like nearly all print writers in the state, is DEEPLY TICKED OFF at Mack Brown’s “Berlin Wall” approach to public relations. Legit print reporters are denied access because it’s easier for MB to control the message that way. So when a complete outsider was not only permitted inside, but given the kind of total freedom the local newspaper has begged for, Kirk put Mack in his sights. Sad that other columnists lacked the, uh, courage to do the same.
Folks, you and I and the rest of the world can criticize Kirk Bohls for his slants and views and words. But you know who the losers are? Us. All of us.
When Mack shuts out reporters, he limits YOUR access to who his players are, what the program is and does. What MB did with Pat Forde was purely selfish. Brown knew he could control what Forde was going to write so he let him in. When the various Russian states of today were known as the Soviet Union, that style of information dissemination was known as propaganda.
by edsp on Oct 28, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You are aware that it might not be in the team's best interests to give media unfettered access, right?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Or what, someone might steal Greg Davis' playbook?
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 28, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that was meant to be funny...
…but seriously, information control is part of a coach’s job. Why do you think so many coaches have banned players from social networking sites? Players sometimes let things out that damage the team, whether saying the wrong thing about a teammate or unit, giving another team bulletin-board material, etc. I banned my subordinates from having Facebook or Twitter accounts, and I’d do the same if I were a coach. This is the same type of thing: Mack’s limiting media access to a list of guys he knows will say the right things.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't there an implication the reporters must work harder?
That is, start digging deeper and putting more pressure on the areas which have some transparency as a state institution. Don’t know if they would get down to digging in trash cans and finding sources around the coaches and players and the people in the skyboxes, ala the Watergate days and Jack Anderson, et. al., but when you’re reduced to press releases and staged press conferences, you don’t have much choice unless you’re really willing to butt heads and confront them.
Really, what Bohls is left with is speculation if he can’t determine facts on the ground. I realize that streams of info can dry up. The situation can become almost warlike or stalemated, and like the old propaganda people learn to read between the lines, parsing what you can with close reading. But that really doesn’t give much clarity, just an approximation. And even that can set the reader up for false deductions.
What I don’t like about what Bohls said is that he is whining on the back side of a story when he could directly confront them. Maybe he or his paper does’t want to be so bold so as not to lose what hometown access they have by being the closest professional witnesses on the ground.
Last, the reporters could take the games apart. That is the one source where they could explore what is there and keep things on football terms. They could also compare this situation with other state universities and gauge the level of their relative access. I suspect overall the access is being limited and I wonder if there is a tie-in to the BCS process or if there are other factors.
Just some thoughts. I know you have some experience from your lifetime of work and at the DT, so I highly respect your opinion and perspective in these matters. I’ve been closed off to programs before (I had an editor write a headline I objected to, but he had and the power and made up the paper and boy did the school take it out on me) and it makes things quite difficult. I focused on the games and still asked the questions that needed to be asked. It is not a comfortable or happy situation for the flow of info for damn sure.
Of course.
I’m not talking unfettered. Look at the Arkansas papers . . . those folks can’t go anywhere, do anything, but they also can produce a whole page per day during August camp because the writers and reporters and photographers are allowed to spend time with players and observing at least some drills. The Austin, SA, Metroplex, Houston reporters are denied that. Mack may win — his players and the fans who foot the bills do not.
Why does the NFL, for the most part, have open practices (media access), and certain colleges (not all of them, by any means) function like the Kremlin?
Guess you can get away with it if you’re in a BCS bowl most years.
Because the NFL has a media policy
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Dooley's analogy
might have been historically accurate and the “lack of leadership” corollary may have been appropriate. But he literally said that his players were like Nazis and that he (or the D Coordinator?) was like Rommel.
He couldn’t have found a Revolutionary War or Civil War connection?
I dunno. If Mack were to compare his players to Nazi soilders, in any capacity, it just wouldn’t sit right – historical accuracy be damned.
"It's not that the Irish are cynical. It's rather that they have a wonderful lack of respect for everything and everybody."
-- Brendan Behan --
There's a large difference
between the Nazi party and the German army. The former was by choice, the latter not so much. Most of the soldiers who served weren’t any different than any other country’s soldiers.
There's nothing wrong with this statement
But as a word to anyone responding to it, I would caution against going much further in analyzing Nazis on BON.
I don't think he really did
He analyzed the differences between Wehrmacht and actual members of the National Socialist Workers Party. Very few German soldiers were members of the party, and were conscripted into duty—much like most soldiers in history, no matter the side, have been.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Did yall hear the FAU announcer go bat sht crazy last weekend?
Here’s the link, he better restrain himself when they come to DKR, or GD will…….do nothing.
Yes
It was amazing. First, I wished that a video existed, but I think my imaginations of the event are 100x better.
by aggiegirl2005 on Oct 29, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Great job this week guys.
Wish I could’ve pitched in, but I haven’t slept in about a week. Next week! Maybe!

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