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What Tre' Newton's Retirement Means to Texas Football

First of all, it's extremely disappointing for Newton that the head injuries he suffered forced him to give up a game that he clearly loved. Despite the fact that he was far from the most talented player on the field, fans and coaches could be sure that he would not only give his best effort on the field, but that he would understand and carry out his assignments with a high level of precision.

Among the Texas running backs, he had the best vision and patience to find cutback lanes and his reliable hands out of the backfield and ability to stand up larger defenders in blitz pick up (where he probably missed no more than one or two assignments in the last two seasons) drew favorable comparisons to Chris Ogbonnaya. He wasn't fast, or anything approaching fast -- he was simply a solid contributor.

In the short term, Newton's retirement and the Fozzy Whittaker's stinger leave the Longhorns a little bit short-handed at running back, particularly with the coaching staff understandably unwilling to burn the redshirts on Jeremy Hills and Traylon Shead. A position that looked extremely crowded before fall camp has now emptied out quicky with Chris Whaley's move to H-back, Demarco Cobbs ending up on defense, and Vondrell McGee missing his senior season due to academics.

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Greg Davis spoke on Monday about the depth issues at the position:

Well, Chris Whaley will work some there. We’ll work Ryan Roberson in some. When Cody [Johnson] went down the other night, we had to make a quick change and move Roberson to tailback, and he scored. So, with Whaley and Roberson, they’ll be the ones. D.J. Monroe will do some things there, but at this time, we will not take a redshirt off.

The expectations for Whaley are incredibly low at this point, especially after seeing his lack of ability to change direction on Nebraska's punt return for a touchdown, but it may at least be instructive to see how bad he looks. Giving Roberson carries is an absolute stop-gap measure, as there is little likelihood that he will touch the ball more than a handful of times after this season andhe may even end up back at linebacker if the 2011 kids aren't ready to contribute, especially if Tevin Jackson can't get his transcript issues resolved (d@#% you, Brian Davis).

That brings us to DJ Monroe, one of the greatest symbols of the often inexplicable nature of the offense this season. What Davis probably means is that Monroe will practice some there, then will stand on the sidelines during the game. Everyone's favorite offensive coordinator expounded on Monroe a bit more:

D.J. is still a guy who is a little bit of a specialist, but he is becoming more and more in that role. And part of it depends on that game and how it is flowing, and what we’re trying to do in the game and how the other guys are playing. But Chris worked there all of last spring, so he has some foundation there. Ryan is a guy that even though he has not worked at the tailback very much, we started giving him some pass protection stuff last week, and he has been getting reps there. And we think Fozzy [Whittaker] will be fine, so we will see how that all plays out.

Once again, it sounds like Davis is setting the stage for more excuses when Monroe either doesn't play this weekend or gets little opportunity. Even though Monroe is apparently picking up more of the offense, that hasn't been enough to get him on the field the last two weeks.

The second comment is absolutely laughable. We've heard comments like this from Davis before about the "flow of the game," which seems to mean that if Texas gets behind, then Monroe can't play because at that point Davis wants to see if he can throw the ball 60 times a game. And the object clearly isn't to score touchdowns, so with that being the objective, it would be a terrible decision to put the most explosive player on offense into the game. After all, he could score from any point on the field and that wouldn't be good.

The rest of the paragraph simply reads as more build up to having excuses for Monroe not playing. Since Texas seems intent on falling behind in about every game, the guys who can pass protect will probably have a chance to play and Monroe will continue to stand on the sidelines, no doubt wondering what he did to deserve this treatment and planning his exit from the program.

Take a longer term view, the obvious question is if the Longhorns will attempt to recruit another running back in the 2011 class. Newton should be granted a medical hardship, which would keep his scholarship from counting against the limit of 85 next season. The problem is that it's late in the process now and all the top running backs have already committed, which makes it somewhat disappointing that the staff didn't more actively pursue Aaron Green, though he seemed ticketed for Nebraska for some time.

Since all the best players are committed, if the staff decides to send out feelers, it makes sense to do so to the top players. It will surprise no one who frequents this community that the preference here is to go after Brandon Williams. According to Recruitocosm, Williams was a guy the staff wanted at safety for some unknown reason, resulting in his early commitment to Baylor, a school that is still apparently pursuing him. Texas hasn't made any contact to this point, but the source feels that Williams would be receptive if the Longhorns came calling.

With Williams predictably vaulting up the recruiting rankings and earning a fifth star -- a major accomplishment at this point -- it would make absolutely no sense not to put out some feelers, especially if there is a chance to keep him away from a major rival like Oklahoma.

Beyond Williams and Green, any other potential target would project as having significantly less impact, even a talented running back like Kenny Williams. Of course, the farther down the list the coaches travel, the more likely the players become to de-commit from their current coaches. Stay tuned.

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Here are my steps:

After A&M game, announce Davis’ resignation on Monday 11/29 (and whomever) else.

Spend 1-2 weeks and hire your new OC (if it’s Major, let’s go with it).

In two weeks, offer Brandon Williams a spot for RB through Applewhite. First, make sure Malcolm Brown is okay with it and I think he will be.

Done.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Nov 17, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

He was fine with Green being recruited

so I don’t see why it would be any different with Williams.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 17, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

GBR your insight always appreciated

could it be Horns cooled on Green cuz there is a possibility that Q Diggs might actually be tried out @ RB (similar skill set as Green?) explosive, home run threat to supplement M Brown

"We need to play the run better, the sacks will come. We'll be able to generate pressure on the quarterback. We need to HEAD-BUTT the quys in front of us and play the run better."

Will Muschamp

by BevoBoom on Nov 17, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what exactly happened with Green

Could have been that they wanted Green to show more interest in the Longhorns and he never did. I don’t think Diggs had anything to do with it, but I do think there is a definite possibility of Diggs ending up on the offensive side of the ball. Putting him there would require a major commitment to figuring out how to get him the ball and the example of DJ Monroe doesn’t bode well there.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 17, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you have hit upon one major reason our offense is so bad and it ain't all GD's fault!

Tre Newton not the most talented and not too fast, Whaley’s lack of ability, some injuries, moving Cobbs to defense, redshirting, and Vondrel’s academic issues. Other than the DJ story, your observations seem to add up to a serious lack of talent in our stable of running backs. While DJ has been explosive on some plays, he hasn’t done well on others…although he seems to be the most talented of all and deserving of more plays during the game.

I submit we probably have even more backfield talent deficiencies….the quarterbacks.! GG has not played well this year and there is nobody on the bench the coaches are willing to insert in the game even….. after GG has 5 picks with the last 3 comming in succession. In the absence of GG maturing and playing up to his potential, the QB position could be awfully weak for the next year or two.

I am not sure the 2011 recruiting class can overcome all of these weaknesses, even with a new OC.

by rmaxearnest on Nov 17, 2010 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

Word is that Major wanted Christine Michael

but GD vetoed. After all, Major is only the RBs coach. I like to think that our lack of talent at RB is definitely attributable at least in part to GD.

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 17, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Where did you hear that?

The rumors around here seemed to be that Michael had off-field problems, likely with academics.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Michael went to my high school. I never heard anything about him having any serious academic trouble, unless his grades were so bad that they just couldn’t admit him into Texas. It’s unbelieveable as to why GD didn’t want to go after him, especially after what he did to us last year on Thanksgiving as a freshman. Michael was interested, but was later put off by the lack of interest. Thats what I remember at least.

GG '10

by 04'-05'-glorydays on Nov 17, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what the stuff I read said

I hadn’t heard anything about DAvis’ interest/disinterest in the two.

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by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

well paleface up there

mentioned it was GD’s disinterest. No idea myself though. Still a ridiculous mistake, unless Whaley eventually gets a solid chance and produces.

GG '10

by 04'-05'-glorydays on Nov 18, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait until new OC is selected

With some staff changes pending, our commitments may be subject to poaching from other programs. However, it works both ways. A new OC would matter to a guy like Williams, and depending on who it is, it might help us as will our depth chart.

In any case, I think we’re fine. All reports indicate that Bergeron is more than a blocking fullback and is more than a competent ball carrier. Also, we need to open up some slots for the talented 2012 RB class.

by Eskimohorn on Nov 17, 2010 1:31 PM CST reply actions  

This feels like a horrible nightmare

We can look at the situation and come up with a millions ways to fix it, but we have to sit their and watch everything fall apart. We can scream all we want, but our voices are mute to the powers that be. Ill never give up on Texas, but the new grays hairs are disappointing.

by future_longhorn_dad on Nov 17, 2010 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

I don't understand why they don't play Shead

If Malcolm Brown is will be here next year and he certainly will get the most opportunity to be the #1 guy, That means Shead still won’t get many touches. Why not go ahead and play him this year? He still would have three years left. But it’s of no concern now. It’s too late in the season to start giving him a look.

If I were Monroe, I’d transer to Boise or Oregon or even Oklahoma State or Missouri. At least they would use him.

"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda

by ElongatedHorn on Nov 17, 2010 1:59 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously?

Burning a shirt during a crappy 4-6 season to give the guy 2 more games? That would be a disservice to him. Also, Malc Brown might be a 3 and done guy.

by Eskimohorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

"Also, Malc Brown might be a 3 and done guy."

Many said the same thing about Gilbert and AW.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

And they were right

GG and AW might be 3 and done guys in that they have the ability and measurables you tend to see with early draftees.

Nothing’s certain. No one has foresight. We don’t even know for sure that any of our 2011 commits will attend UT. So, what’s your point?

by Eskimohorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Just that it's a little early to speculate on things like that

I would say that AW looks highly unlikely to jump after this season, and that GG would have to have a scintillating junior season to make anyone forget about this year.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Highly unlikely?

McShay has him at 22 in his mock draft ($). If he’s a first-round draft pick faced with the possibility of a rookie salary cap and/or lockout in 2011, why wouldn’t he go pro? By the way, McShay somehow forgot to include Blake Gideon in his mock draft. Must have been an oversight.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 17, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

"If he’s a first-round draft pick faced with the possibility of a rookie salary cap and/or lockout in 2011, why wouldn’t he go pro?"

Because if there were a lockout, he wouldn’t want to spend his rookie season locked out of football. If a lockout looks likely to happen in 2011, that would mean players would be less likely to declare this January/February, don’t you think? And if there were a salary cap, it would likely also exist in 2012, rendering it a non-factor.

Nice remark about Gideon. Of course I never said he’s a better NFL prospect than Williams is. Apparently you’re under the impression that I did, which confuses me.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

You linked to this thread, btw.

Also, do you disagree that Williams’ stock has taken a shallow dive this year?

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think when scouts go and look at film of AW they’ll find a top corner prospect. That hasn’t changed because this team stinks and because he can’t catch a punt.

The possibility of a lockout may keep him here, but in a normal year it’d be hard to imagine Williams returning unless he just wanted to leave Texas with a better memory than being part of this disastrous team.

by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 17, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's been good this year

But in general, he doesn’t seem like he has taken any steps forward this season, and actually might be playing less impressively than he did last season. I would think that would be a problem for him, considering the reputation Akina has for developing defensive backs.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay then. Opinions vary.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Like I said, it's of no concern now at 4-6

but I’ve wondered all season why they didn’t give him a shot, especially with such lip service to the rebuild running game in August.

"Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda

by ElongatedHorn on Nov 17, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Okie State would seem perfect

Holgorsen and I’m40 are really good at employing shifty, undersized backs.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

What this means is...

We need to give Brandon Williams a blank check and whatever kind of Benz he wants…Just kidding, we aren’t in the SEC.

On a more serious note, apparently Major did form a strong relationship with Williams, so once a new OC is put in place we should definitely pursue him with Major and see if we can pull off the steal.

Anybody know how solid Herschel Simms is to OK State? I heard he was turned off by not being recruited by UT, but why not give him a run? According to rivals he has durability issues and with our history, that might be more than enough to not recruit him.

by tvr'11 on Nov 17, 2010 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

I don't want to offend anybody,

but I don’t understand why is there such a concern about losing Tre Newton. Don’t misunderstand. I feel badly for him. However, the fact is, based on performance as measured by YPC, we were already in need of more talent at the position. I don’t see that his leaving should be the catalyst for our trying to recruit somebody besides those we already have on the table. Were we satisfied with Tre’s performance? To put it another way: Didn’t we already need somebody else?

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 17, 2010 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

I could be wrong, but...

If Tre gets a medical hardship scholarship, that opens up another scholarship position for next year with which to recruit another running back.

I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!

by HookTech on Nov 17, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right, I think.

But shouldn’t we have already been looking for another RB as opposed to giving a scholarship to someone at a position where we did not have as great a need? I just don’t see that we have a substantially greater need now for another RB than we did before Tre’s announcement. If we need another one now, we needed another one before. Don’t we already have a number of so-so RBs? If what we’re missing is a good one in addition to MB (the other one), then it seems to me we should have been looking for another one already.

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 17, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we have to restock talent at every position on a regular basis,

the thinning we are experiencing at RB now can happen to any position, so I think it makes sense to spread available scholarships around to all positions for recruiting. I’m not entirely certain we should use the scholarship being freed up for a RB, with Hills and Shead being redshirted and Brown coming in. Maybe we need a DB more.

I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!

by HookTech on Nov 17, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe so

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 17, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Brandon Williams.

I also want to stay I am plenty happy with Malcolm Brown. But why not try to take one away from the rivals and boost our own backfield.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Nov 17, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That makes sense, too.

Just sayin’ I don’t see losing Tre as the catalyst. If your plan is a good plan, which I think it is, then it was a good plan before Tre was out.

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 17, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes but another scholarship opened up so we can go for him now, if we want.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Nov 17, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

How many scholarships

do we have left to offer this year, now that Tre’s departure added one?

"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons

by Paleface Horn on Nov 18, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

so over at recruitocosm they mention

a source close to Brandon Williams makes it sound like he’s still waiting to hear from Texas, and that Major has always liked him and now might have the pull to go after someone who’s been a top target of his all along.
I hope there is truth to all these rumors I’m reading.

by jmptexas on Nov 17, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the heads up

A lot of fans will be delighted by the pursuit of BW. Talk about a thunder and lightning attack at running back! Malcolm Brown and Brandon Williams would be unfair, assuming, you know, obvious needed improvements in scheme and blocking and personnel.

by Kool Hand on Nov 17, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I must admit, I am curious to see Waley tote the rock a few times

Who the hell knows, maybe the evaluations of him in practice have been misguided…

Please, don’t correct me. This is my thread of optimism. Waley, breakout performance against Florida Middle School.

by Kool Hand on Nov 17, 2010 4:57 PM CST reply actions  

running back

I posted in another thread to keep an eye on LaFrederick (Fred) Ford of Kirbyville. He holds high school rushing records at is school over both Bubba Bean and Butch Hadnot.

He is 6’ 1" 195 and has very good speed. 3A competition aside, he looks like someone we should consider if Brandon Williams is fully committed to OU.

Aggies believe he is under the radar and they want him badly. Heard he is a good kid as well.

by Eastexhorn on Nov 17, 2010 5:32 PM CST reply actions  

From watching some film on him, he's okay.

Probably a solid three star, though Rivals has him at two. Pretty straight-line guy who won’t separate in the open field, but clearly makes a lot of plays in high school and I like the fact that he can put his foot in the ground and get upfield. I wouldn’t project him as a major contributor at Texas, so in my opinion it would be pretty questionable to give him a scholarship. Definitely think he could contribute somewhere in the FBS, though.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 17, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

What was the word on Herschel Sims?

I know he was kind of a small dude, but so was Kendall Hunter. Would he be interested?

by Hobbes881 on Nov 17, 2010 9:50 PM CST reply actions  

If we get OSU's OC he might be in play

Since he is committed to OSU you would think that he might be interested if he already likes their OC.

by Wrangler86 on Nov 17, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The only "flow" our offensive games have had...

…is clockwise and down.

Texas is neither southern nor western. Texas is Texas - Senator William Blakley

by AusTXBill on Nov 18, 2010 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

What was Tre's productivity like?

Yards per carry, etc….as compared to other RB’s…current and recent past.??

Anyone know?

He wasn’t necessarily fast, etc. but he always seemed to deliver….

When Cody came in, I expected to see 2-5 yards north-south, ending with some Dback on his back….
When Tre came in, I expected a nimble, “find a hole” scamper for 4-8 yards, with a possible breakaway.

Tre always seemed to see something that wasn’t there, and could take a hit. He was better than just OK or average.

For a few precious moments.....I am back in Old Texas, under a high sky, where all things are again possible and the wind blows free - Larry L. King

by AusTXBill on Nov 18, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

Tre was a solid player who got his head taken off too many times

running behind a bunch of O linemen who were too bulked up and poorly trained to be able to block for him effectively. It’s a shame he will have to forego the rest of his college career because some on our coaching staff refuse to address the glaring problems with our strength and conditioning program for our O linemen. This is not a new problem.
Nor is the fact we continue to bulk up our O linemen and then ask then to execute what amounts to a finesse run-blocking scheme.

Tre wouldn’t have had nearly as many concussions if he’d had an H back or a fullback leading him through the line between the tackles or if our O linemen had any mobility like the O linement for TCU, who routinely pull and actually block defenders who are not lined up directly in front of them at the snap.

But what do I know? I don’t send 170-pound receivers out to get pummeled by linebackers and safeties when they try to catch passes standing still three yards downfield on third and five. There’s nothing like a stationary target for a head-hunting defensive back.

by Hornucopia on Nov 18, 2010 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

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