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Will Muschamp A Top Target For Florida Head Coach?

I've heard from two people in the last hour that Florida has reached out in a substantive way to Texas Defensive Coordinator Will Muschamp about their vacant head coach spot. I haven't seen this reported anywhere and I'm not able to confirm it at this time.  Now, it wouldn't exactly be surprising to learn Florida is interested in Muschamp, but if there's an offer out there, or substantive talks, that would be news. Is anyone hearing anything on this front?

I've also been told by folks who would know that Will Muschamp isn't going to leave Texas, period. But let's be realistic: there are two, maybe three, jobs that one doesn't at least consider before turning down.

And Florida tops that very short list.

Consider this your Who Should Florida Hire? open thread.

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I hate rumors.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

I don’t see that happening. He is poised to take over one of the two best jobs in the country. Granted the other one being Florida, but Muschamp seems to be an extremely intelligent guy. Why not stay, learn from the master and then your ascension to the throne is guaranteed.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

But if Florida is asking, you listen. So I’d like to know if they’re asking.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Besides, do you actually think Meyer will really ever be gone from Florida? I bet he gets a job in the athletic dept. at some point, if not next year. He is too competitive to really step away, no matter what he says about retirement.

I wouldn’t want a job wit a young ex-coach constantly looking over my shoulder.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't that what some people think would happen here?

I’ve heard more than once that when Deloss steps down that Mack’ll probably take his place.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Dec 11, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Mack Brown doesn’t strike me as a man who would do that. If he takes a job in Bellmont he will certainly be around, but I doubt he will meddle in day-to-day affairs.

Meyer seems to be more of a control freak. Brown maybe not so much; hence some of the problems we now have.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 11, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

That talk has died down

And Deloss just recently got an extension to his contract. They want Dodds to be the AD to guide Texas through the process and establishing and building out the Longhorn Network and any possible conference realignment that may happen when when some of these big TV contracts start ending in 2014, I think. Whatever the exact date, the point is that Deloss is going to be AD when the next round of major movement hits and by that point Mack is probably done coaching.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 11, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Mack isn't retiring anytime soon

It appears to me the idea that he was came from a couple of sources who were extrapolating probably based on indirectly related comments (which every coach will make when frustrated).

He is too competitive to quit right after a 5-7 season. More telling is the fact that he just cleverly renegotiated his contract this year before the NC Game, for a nearly 50% raise, plus subsequent annual raises through 2016. Do people think that hardballing was all just for fun?

It’s not likely he would turn around within a few months and walk away from more than $5 million a year in his current figurehead role, in order to become AD with more real responsibilities getting paid way less at $675,000 to have to handle all the business aspects of Texas Athletics. Unless the Board put a ridiculous clause in the contract (so some have speculated) allowing for his salary to stay in the multi-million$ range as AD… doesn’t seem right or ethical for the Board to concede such, but it wouldn’t surprise me. But IMO Mack will coach through 2013+ or at least until after a 2nd NC Title with a new OC, WM, and his boy GG.

by SchruteFarm on Dec 11, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been to Gainsville, Florida.

No comparison to Austin. Not even close. The head coaching jobs at UT and UF are comparable in profile, pay scale, and almost any other metric you can think of. So, why would anyone in their right mind, move to Gainsville, FL, when they have a job equal in almost every way, waiting for them in glorious Austin, TX.

I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!

by HookTech on Dec 10, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

HCIW makes little sense when Mack's contract runs til 2017

I agree with most of the comments here, that UF’s top candidates are likely Mullen or Peterson (have also heard Holgorsen), but of course, they need to cover their bases and survey the field, just like any major hiring entity.

And if Will does get an offer, it is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity at a top 5 program in the nation’s 3rd best recruiting state, which will be tough to turn down. Texas is better, but unless there is some backroom verbal agreement that Mack is going to hand over the reigns by 2012-13, I doubt WM wants to wait until 2017.

by SchruteFarm on Dec 11, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Two reasons

(1) If reports of conflict between Muschamp and Brown this season are true, then Muschamp may no longer consider Mack to be “the master.” At minimum, he may well feel he has learned everything he can from Mack.
(2) If Mack is unable or unwilling to give Muschamp a firm retirement date,. why should Muschamp stay here for 2 or 3 or more years, when he might immediately be HC at Florida?

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Dec 11, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

surprised to see this on here

honestly, PB, I thought you said you weren’t going to post rumors on here?

this seems more FanShot than FrontPage worthy

if you lose Muschamp, meh, there are other coordinators out there

I think he is probably one of the top in the nation, but he is not the top

by Beergut on Dec 10, 2010 8:17 PM CST reply actions  

Thought about explaining in the post

But didn’t want to get into another meta discussion, but this isn’t the first time I’ve posted OH CRAP WE MIGHT LOSE MUSCHAMP paranoid posts.

I was less inclined to speculate about what Mack Brown would do to his own staff than I am to wonder if Florida is pursuing Muschamp. Some may see it as a distinction without a difference, but I can live with that.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

"surprised to see this on here"

Oh really? Who the f$ck are you?

Greg Davis haikus; much like his offenses; always go sideways.

by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 11, 2010 2:42 AM CST up reply actions  

While I think Muschamp will be an excellent HC,

I have to wonder why UF is doing this.

Muschamp would be wasting the huge advantage he has with the HCIW deal. That is, he has intimate knowledge of the Texas program, what he will keep from the program, and what he must change. Muschamp isn’t Fisher, and Texas isn’t FSU, but I think the parallels will be there whenever the time comes. Fisher hit the ground running because he knew all the changes he wanted to make for the past two years that Bowden denied him.

At UF, he won’t have those advantages. He will be starting from scratch.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

I tend to agree

And don’t think highly of the chances of Muschamp leaving Texas, for Florida or elsewhere. But I’d like to know if Florida is in talks with him. Because it’s not a job you just turn down without considering.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

This Florida job just has to be Dan Mullen, right? I mean, that makes the most sense, on so many levels.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Dan Mullen swears he is staying at Miss. St.

It must be true because it is posted on ESPN.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

And Pelini swears he isn’t interested in the Miami job. Right…

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

He's not

There’s no way. That job is not at all what you think it is. Not top 20 even.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You really think Miami has sunk that low? Are they lacking the money/resources to bring the program back?

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

keep in mind

you’re talking to a Seminole

saying Miami isn’t a top 20 job is just laughable

by Beergut on Dec 10, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

As you can see below, you don't really have a handle on their program right now.

I’ll leave it at that.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Beergut

doesn’t have a realistic handle on Texas A&M. I wouldn’t trust his opinion on much else.

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by CoachEtch on Dec 10, 2010 10:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

USF and UCF will soon surpass them. Have you seen their current recruiting class? http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/miami-11 (and Davis won’t qualify).

-Miami has the worst facilities in the state.
-Oppressive lease on that stadium from the Dolphins
-Their stadium is an hour away from campus.
-They have no money for a quality staff.
-After the Brian Pata murder and the FIU brawl, they put the kibosh on taking risky recruits. UF and FSU are taking all those SoFla kids with the 2.4 GPA and the 880 SAT.
-They had 26,000 people show for the last home game.

It is a small private institution with a very international alumni base, most of which is unconcerned with football.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info. Miami is off my radar so I haven’t paid attention.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, they also play their Spring game at a high school.

They were also hurt by the fact that their booster structure was very top heavy and several were busted for white-collar crimes.

They can fix this thing and play for ACC championships if they allow anyone back in to the school, but as of now, that is not happening. An administration change could fix that.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Their stadium is an HOUR away from campus?

That is just madness.

If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.

by LonghornEm on Dec 10, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Google maps says 36 minutes, but there is absolutely no way with SoFla traffic

Plus it backs up about a mile out and it takes at least 15 more minutes to traverse that stretch.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

they're not alone

UCLA plays about an hour away at the Rose Bowl.

by mstrat on Dec 10, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Their stadium is an hour away from campus.

Its true. I’ve been to Dolphin’s Stadium (or whatever the newest corporate name is) and with traffic it is at least 45-60 minutes from campus. The day they demolished the Orange Bowl I thought that Miami’s program may be finished, and while I haven’t entirely been proven correct, it looks like it is on that path.

That stadium is about as uncollegiate as it gets, way out in the Northern suburbs among golf courses. Not quite the right ambiance for a program that has built its success and reputation on inner-city swagger.

by BrooklynHorn on Dec 11, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

-Miami has always taken a strange sense of pride in churning out great players despite sub-par facilities. They argument that they don’t have anything for facilities helps foster their “us against the world” mentality.

-the stadium location won’t keep fans from showing up and filling the place when they are winning

-hire the right coach, and they’ll be able to recruit who they want. academic standards always get relaxed to what is needed to be competitive when a coach the school wants does his negotiations. SMU had the same problem, and that all went away when June Jones came in.

-it was already known by that game that Shannon was out, and a notoriously fair-weather fanbase that only shows up when the team is winning isn’t going to show up for a coach’s funeral. Win, and they don’t have a problem with attendance.

-you are talking about a program that has one less national title in the last 30 years than texas and Florida State have in the combined histories of their football programs. Like it or not, The U has its own unique brand, an a tradition like that doesn’t just die. I’ve heard predictions of the demise of powerhouse programs before, and whether it be USC or OU or even texas, those predictions never turn out to be wrong. Ultimately, it comes down to getting the right leadership and the right coach, and the winning always comes back.

by Beergut on Dec 12, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Why would he stay at Miss St

if he was offered the Florida job? I don’t think there’s any way that he could turn it down.

I recognize your sarcasm, dime, but I think Mullen is smart enough to take it if they offered him. Which they should unless they can get someone like Stoops.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 11, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Mullen is the guy Florida wants. Or Strong, but they’d rather have Mullen. Apparently a lot of their fans were upset with him for a “slow start to the 2008 season,” including the loss to Ole Miss. I think they are having a lot of second thoughts now that they see how terrible of an OC Addazio is.

by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 11, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I was kidding. Mullen would an idiot to turn down that job.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 11, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Do not underestimate the control UF's President has in this. He may want a clean break from Meyer.

He brought Meyer with him from Utah.

Foley is a great AD, and all of their programs are top notch. This is likely just him being very thorough.

We keep hearing Stoops (who cancelled a presser today) and Petrino (who has the Bull Gators up in arms). Then there’s Petersen, Harbaugh, etc. Stoops still owns his house in Gainesville and his wife’s friends still live there.

Mullen is very tough to work with, but would be a very solid option.

Some UF people say Sumlin or Fedora, but I highly doubt either will happen.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I love all the denials.

Stoops swears he isn’t going anywhere, either.

Please, someone take Bob Stoops.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Had dinner with a UF alum last night

And he didn’t think Stoops was a realistic option. I’d think he’d consider it, but who knows. He’s in a great spot at OU.

You’re right about Foley, that’s for sure, and I don’t expect there to be much rush. I hadn’t thought about Petrino, mostly because he’s got stability issues in his past. I think if you’re Foley you’re looking for a recruiter as much as anything, though, right?

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if you’re Foley you’re looking for a recruiter as much as anything, though, right?

I think UF largely recruits itself. Top facilities, Tampa/St. Pete/ Orlando, etc all within a 3-hour drive.

I wrote this week that it is more important for UF to get a guy who will re-recruit the 2010 class to prevent transfers than it is to get a guy who is an ace recruiter. With Miami falling and not getting back up, there is enough talent for both FSU and UF to consistently have top-8 classes every year.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

UF making a run at Stoops was all the talk on the radio today

They were saying that despite the NO coming from OU, Stoops would make a lot of sense. I don’t really buy it, but their argument was that Stoops has done all he can at OU and he may like a change and new challenge. Plus, he can get great talent at UF.

The con was that it is basically a lateral move since OU is certainly a top tier team and coaching job. I think the con made more sense than the pro side of the debate. I guess it is a question of whether Bob is getting bored in Norman or not.

by Wrangler86 on Dec 11, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Stoops gets great talent at OU from south of the Red River. The recruiting angle doesn’t make sense.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 11, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Bob Stoops never has problems telling them no

which makes you wonder what he knows about that job that other don’t

Of course, Gator fans wouldn’t be so forgiving of his BCS record.

by Beergut on Dec 10, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

He does

have the Spurrier pedigree, hat w/ the hole in top & all.

Might be some clamoring for Stoopsie (Smushberger & Stoops must be really tight) in Gainesville, based on that connection.

by HalfmileHorn on Dec 11, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp may be the HCIW, but...

…if I were his agent I would float his name for every single job possible. Not because there is any intention of leaving before Mack, but because 1) good agents are always trying to service their clients and show them how they can make them more money (i.e. keep them happy so they don’t jump to another agent/company) and 2) if Will is continually mentioned for marque HC gigs then we at Texas must further bridge the gap in compensation to keep him on the hook. Makes total sense…even though I would argue being the HC at Texas is a much easier gig than at Florida given the incoming resources, the level of competition in conference both on-field and in recruiting, etc. Plus, it’s also just a better job, I would argue, given Austin as a city, our impending cable net, our history/tradition/culture, etc.

by KevinJ on Dec 10, 2010 8:49 PM CST reply actions  

Really thought...

Foley would go for a guy who is currently in a head coaching position…

I’d be stunned if it isnt Mullen. It just makes too much sense for both sides.

by txtwstr7 on Dec 10, 2010 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

agreed

Mullen just seems to be the overwhelming and obvious choice. Why would you continue to coach at MSU when you can be back at UF?

by Hobbes881 on Dec 11, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Re: Miami

Miami Herald: Hurrcanes down to 3… Al Golden, Randy Edsall and Marc Trestman

ouch

by Blatant Homerism on Dec 10, 2010 9:00 PM CST reply actions  

What's your feeling on Stoops?

Any way he’d take the Florida job, if offered?

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Always a chance… But the reasons people give for him taking the job are the same as the last time and the time before that: has a house there, his wife likes it, etc.

What’s different this time? Maybe he’s not too jazzed about the new Big 12. That’s about the only thing I could see getting him to change his tune.

He’s in the middle of building a Mack-like hacienda with TVs in the gold-plated bathroom and whatnot in Norman. The money will be the same. His kids are still in school. He’s got a lot of talent coming back… I just don’t see it.

by Blatant Homerism on Dec 10, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Word

Thanks. Also you should include a link to your blog in your sig line. ’Tis a great site, for covering such a horrible entity ;)

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

You’re too kind.

By the by, if Muschamp was a stone-cold dude, he might flirt with Florida just to make sure the whole coaching staff shake-up turned out like he wanted it to.

by Blatant Homerism on Dec 10, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

From a Texas perspective, Stoops needs to stay

In the short term it would be fun to have him gone, but the New Big XII depends on Texas and OU being strong

by 40AS on Dec 10, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Never worry about the Land Thieves.

As much as it pains me to say this, OU is one of the best jobs in the country. The money, resources, donor base and support is there. If Stoops left, they would hire someone who would keep the program at the current level.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 10, 2010 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

3 years is probably pushing it a little close

It should last a bit longer than that, but if the conference doesn’t even try to pick up more teams, here come the super conferences.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Dec 11, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Randy Edsall is a good coach

He has turned UCONN, which was a nothing football program into a Big East contender every year. He might do well there but it all comes down to the kind of support he is going to get from the University as far as funds and such.

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by CoachEtch on Dec 10, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah UConn has been D-! about as long as Mack has been in Austin.

He’s a solid coach, but I would highly peeved if he were in serious contention for the job at Texas.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Dec 10, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yea

I wouldn’t consider Edsall a Tier 1 kinda coach yet. But if he goes to Miami and turns things back around I think he would be pretty justified in that rating.

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by CoachEtch on Dec 11, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Such a horrible list

With the resources Miami has in recruiting, I’m surprised there isn’t some up and coming coach that would want to take that program back to prominence. Fan support or no fan support.

by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 11, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I may be ignant,but...

Would Florida hire a coordinator? Wouldn’t they rather go with a proven HC?

by Shullie on Dec 10, 2010 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

Good point

And I’d tend to think so, but it depends, right? Texas is hiring a coordinator in Muschamp. Might be a “good enough for Texas…” situation?

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Dec 10, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I would tend to agree

But it is logical for them to reach out to Muschamp as part of normal due diligence. UT has already vetted him, and he’s the HCIW at one of the top jobs in the country so it hardly hurts to ask.

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by learned hand on Dec 10, 2010 9:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I see him listed as a possible candidate

But nothing about Florida reaching out to him already.

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by Peter Bean on Dec 11, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Read several places that UF will require a proven head coach rather than a coordinator, even a touted one. Also, lotta smoke around Chris Peterson. The downtick in Harsin talk only supports that something is there.

by the chairman211 on Dec 10, 2010 9:24 PM CST reply actions  

The thought of any top program hiring Peterson is scary

I believe the ex-QB is one of the smartest, if not the smartest, coaching minds out there.

which is why even getting his protege Harsin at OC would be an excellent catch for us.

by SchruteFarm on Dec 11, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Florida would take a defensive-oriented coach

They have serious issues with the offense, and losing Meyer will only hurt that. They need a headcoach who can fix the offense. I think Mullen would be their best bet.

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by LongCat on Dec 10, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

Let's say - All things

being equal (which they are not!)

Austin vs. Gainesville or even Texas vs. Florida. You take Miami (which is a long way from Gainesville) away and you’re left with nothing. Will isn’t leaving Austin.

by tgbils on Dec 10, 2010 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

Um, not that I am a big fan or these cities...

But Florida also has Orlando, Tampa. St. Pete, and Jacksonville all within reach of Gainesville.

This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.

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by Bud Elliott on Dec 10, 2010 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus that's not paying attention to what he likes

For all you know, he could like smaller town atmosphere’s.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Dec 11, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp went to elementary school in Gainesville

and maybe some of middle school as well.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Dec 11, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

And he may hate the place now. :-) You just never know.

What we have here is a failure to execute.

by dimecoverage on Dec 11, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Consideration

You are right about him likely “considering” the job. But, as has been said, he’s built too big of a base here to just leave without cause. We’ve given him keys to the Lamborghini – he’s not going to toss those back to drive a Porsche for a couple of years. (With NO CHANCE to ever see that Lamborghini again!)

by tgbils on Dec 10, 2010 10:53 PM CST reply actions  

Florida probably won't offer

to a DC but if they do, Muschamp probably accepts. The Florida job is elite and who knows how long it will be before Mack retires. When you get an amazing opportunity in life, you have to pull the trigger. The Texas HC job is much less definite and so many things could happen to screw it up for Muschamp in the next few years before he takes over.

by Kafka on Dec 10, 2010 10:59 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

And Muschamp would be crazy not to talk if they call.

I don’t want to lose him. But I’m not googoo-eyed over ‘Coach Boom’ after last season & the last 3 games of the previous season.

by HalfmileHorn on Dec 11, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

What makes a job great?

I think you HAVE got to factor in expectations and the expectations at Florida are at an all time high. When Meyer got hired, his expectations to succeed weren’t nearly as high as whoever follows him. We can’t forget Meyer followed Ron Zook, an all-time program killer. This is not to say the pressures here at Texas aren’t as great, but what would it take for Muschamp to be considered a success at Florida? Win a championship at Florida? Probably not enough, considering Meyer won two.

Les Miles has won a championship at LSU and think about how much of a hero he would be in Baton Rouge if he hadn’t followed Saban. But instead he is vilified for every mistake and considered to have ridden the coattails of Saban. Look no farther than Tressel, when he succeeded Cooper. The standards had been lowered a bit and he came into a great situation at Ohio State with great facilities and great tradition. See Fisher at FSU. The last 5 years or so of Bowden have lowered the expectations and Fisher comes in and has an okay season and all of a sudden there’s a buzz around the program and the possibility of the being the best program in the state of Florida.

I think one of the great jobs right now is Michigan. Whoever follows Rodriguez (just a matter of time) won’t have as great of expectations as even Rich Rod had in following Carr. Also got to throw Penn State in there when Joe Pa decides to hang it up. Don’t get me wrong, it’s never easy following a legend, but I think we can all admit that program is not near where it used to be. Their last great team has to be the one with Kerry Collins and Kijana Carter and they didn’t even win a title.

Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman

by 2Cor12:9 on Dec 10, 2010 11:47 PM CST reply actions  

Saban at Alabama, Carrol at USC, Brown at Texas

In all three cases, the brand name was already there, but the stock price had taken a dip when they came on the scene. The right guy in the right place at the right time – that’s what it’s all about. You’re so right about Michigan. If they wise up and hire Harbaugh, they’ll be a powerhouse again.

Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln

by beast in bama on Dec 11, 2010 12:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I’ll be shocked if they retain RichRod. Wonder where Shoelace will transfer to.

by miketag on Dec 11, 2010 6:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Stoops at OU?

Same situation, as far as I can tell. And for the "they’ll never take a coordinator at (name your top ten program) — Stoops wasn’t a HC, and that turned out pretty well.

by nvrfrgt63 on Dec 11, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Would be a great time

For Harbaugh to step in at Michigan.

by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 11, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Really not sure I agree.

RichRod has basically just finished stacking his team with the type of talent he uses in his system, which, coincidentally, is almost precisely the exact opposite of Harbaugh’s system. He could turn the program around, but it would take some time, and the early years have a strong chance of looking a whole lot like RichRod’s. On the other hand, I’m not sure there’s a coach in the country, collegiate or professional, with as much buzz and cachet. He could easily get the Carolina head coaching job, take Andrew Luck with the first pick, and be pretty well set in the NFL.

by bbatsell on Dec 11, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I know

Wasn’t talking about current players, which don’t fit Harbaugh’s philosophies at all. Was referring to the expectation levels being pretty low right now (conversation above) and the soft nature Michigan has been labeled as having the past few years. Even if it took him 3 years to recruit all the players he wanted, Harbaugh will never have a team labeled as soft.

by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 11, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Muschamp Doesn´t Have the Skins on the Wall

He may be on the list because he is bright and driven – but he is on the bottom of that short list. The reality is there are 6 to a dozen guys out there that have accomplished significantly more than Will and all could be lured by a $4 +million contract, tanned coeds, and beautiful weather. Names such as Harbaugh (money), Kelly (no sun in Oregon), Petersen (sun and money), Stoops (think OU coeds vs. Fla) are more accomplished right now. I am sure the Gators want a proven commodity to turn that baby around, just like we want the perfect OC.

Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"

by realmccoy on Dec 11, 2010 8:49 AM CST reply actions  

AA Statesman

is reporting it as a done deal

by loganck on Dec 11, 2010 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

ESPN ticker says it

If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.

by LonghornEm on Dec 11, 2010 7:13 PM CST reply actions  

A truly fitting way to end the season right here

I want to suggest that Muschamp’s unhappiness with the program and its lack of accountability led to this move, but then again… it’s Florida. How do you say no?

by goingforthecorner on Dec 11, 2010 7:20 PM CST reply actions  

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