Teryl Austin For Texas Defensive Coordinator?
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 13, 2010 6:18 PM CST
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PrintThe buzz since the announcement on Saturday evening that Will Muschamp will be the next head coach at Florida has all surrounded former Miami defensive coordinator Randy Shannon. Earlier on Monday, a report surfaced on Twitter that a private plane was flying to Miami from Austin, with the obvious inference being that Texas officials were on the plane and perhaps intended to bring Randy Shannon back to Austin as the next Texas DC. Shortly thereafter, rumors surfaced, also on Twitter, that Shannon was in fact already on campus. Speculation, all.
Of course, that wasn't the only drama on Monday afternoon. Bellmont officially posted the DC job online and the specific job requirements seemingly brought another candidate into the mix -- Florida defensive coordinator Teryl Austin. The "preferred" job qualifications posted by Texas indicated that the candidate must have a minimum of 12 years experience coaching college football and a minimum of seven years experience in the NFL. Coincidentally, or perhaps not, those requirements exactly match Austin's resume -- he's spent 12 years in college and seven in the NFL.
Hookem's Alan Trubow caught up with Austin this evening, who said that he has not been contacted by Texas and also has not discussed the possibility of remaining on Will Muschamps staff at Florida, though most speculations seems to center around what seems like the rather slim chance that current Alabama DC Kirby Smart would leave Tuscaloosa. However, the Statesman did cite another report by 247Sports in which a Florida assistant coach and a Florida source both indicated that Austin to Austin was a legitimate possibility.
Comparing Austin to Shannon, the latter has much more experience as a head coach and a defensive coordinator, while 2010 was Austin's first season calling plays on defense after a long career as a defensive backs coach. The Longhorns would probably need to hire a linebackers coach if they decide on Austin and they already have an extremely accomplished defensive backs coach in Duane Akina, so Austin's expertise doesn't add a lot to the overall makeup of the defensive coaching staff. Since Shannon could not only coach the linebackers, but also has a better reputation as a recruite -- he seems like the safer choice at this point and Austin seems like more of a back-up plan than the top candidate, which is surely still Shannon.
At this point, though, it's all just a waiting game.
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Still utterly
Confused why the Shannon hire has not been made yet. Austin makes no sense from a “splash hire” viewpoint or the perspective of filling in coaches around our current remaining staff. Shannon is the right guy. He fits perfectly. Get it done…
It looks like Tide sports
is reporting that Kirby Smart has been offered the Florida DC job. Whether or not he takes that would impact Austin staying in Gainesville, obviously, so Austin could be in the market for a job in the very near future.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 13, 2010 6:35 PM CST reply actions
the right guy
Austin is not the right guy for the job. Florida’s defense had one of the top secondaries in the country and they were abysmal, in many ways worse than us. Granted it was his first year calling the shots, but we don’t need a project DC. We need an experience coach and recruiter. Shannon seems like the perfect fit, specially if he is able to bring his connections from the fruitful south Florida area. We need to maintain our current recruits, we cant afford for Muschamps to take them to Florida as well. Hopefully we will keep Applewhite also.
The right guy
the right guy
Austin is not the right guy for the job. Florida’s defense had one of the top secondaries in the country and they were abysmal, in many ways worse than us. Granted it was his first year calling the shots, but we don’t need a project DC. We need an experience coach and recruiter. Shannon seems like the perfect fit, specially if he is able to bring his connections from the fruitful south Florida area. We need to maintain our current recruits, we cant afford for Muschamps to take them to Florida as well. Hopefully we will keep Applewhite also.
Everett Withers
Just as another name it’s been pointed out that UNC DC (and former Texas DB coach) fits the requirements in the job posting (12 yrs college, 7 yrs NFL). He actually has 15 yrs college and 7 yrs NFL. Just a thought.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
Smoke screens
Its safe to say that programs nowadays don’t want to repeat the same PR disaster that ND, Tennessee, and Michigan had over the past few years when their “top choice” decides to pass them up. Every program wants to say, “we got our guy” just like Florida did this week w/ Muschamp. Obviously, if Muschamp was really the only guy Florida talked to or inquired about, then someone over there didn’t do their due diligence. Texas will employ its little game of misdirection, but its a buyer’s market right now as far as DCs are concerned and Texas will get the right guy unless Shannon is no longer interested.
Randy Shannon is the guy....
If it’s tweeted, it’s true?
http://deadspin.com/5712935/luther-campbell-is-as-newsy-as-he-wants-to-be
Randy Shannon is the guy....
If it’s tweeted, it’s true?
http://deadspin.com/5712935/luther-campbell-is-as-newsy-as-he-wants-to-be
Well, he's got a great name
I don’t know what else he’s got. I never heard of him before today and something tells me that isn’t good. We need a guy that creates a little buzz.
We are Texas
There is no such thing as “too much money”,,,YES that was sarcasm.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
This is terrible, this idea.
The facepalm would definitely be present if, after losing Muschamp, we then replace him with someone that is not acceptable for his own staff.
What is the problem with Shannon and then dropping in Major as OC or co-OC? You already know that he is a recruiting stud, he a beloved national hero, and can’t be a worse playcaller / x’s and o’s guy than the last OC we had… For 13 years.
Seriously, if Mack and Deloss FUBAR this deal, we just need to to take the operational cleansing higher up; there is no excuse for having the the most resources and advantages in a competition like this, and still fall flat. Get it done… I’m tired of reading how Chet Moss is being the recruiting glue for the University of Texas.
I see...
Shannon at DC and Major at OC. Of course, neither will probably be the ones. This just needs to happen quickly.
Austin would be an okay replacement if Akina were to leave
But I don’t see Akina as likely to leave.
I would be seriously miffed if Texas hired Austin to be DC. There’s just so much wrong with that potential move.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 7:50 PM CST reply actions
The only thing that I can say about Austin is that his defenses give up a lot of yards, but he makes sure that his defenses are very opportunistic.
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And a lack of forcing turnovers was one of UT's biggest problems on defense
we have Florida’s level of athleticism and speed. Would love to see an aggressive defense.
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
He is pretty aggressive. Preachers turnovers. It’s good stuff. And he is a solid recruiter. No question about y’alls level of athleticism and speed.
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He has just one commitment, three-star athlete Vincent Dallas, to his credit for 2011
And of course zero for 2010, because he didn’t even join the staff until more than a week after NSD.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 9:51 PM CST up reply actions
Valdez Showers, for example, has said countless times that he really likes Austin and he is one of the two coaches that made him commit to Florida.
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I'd probably trust was FlaGators has to say given he probably has more info on their DC
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
I trust what the recruiting site says over what a registered SBN user like one of us has to say
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
And this isn't meant to cause offense, just to point out that anyone could say so-and-so is a great recruiter
Someone could state on here that Greg Davis was a lights-out recruiter, but the absence of evidence, while not necessarily evidence of absence, would make it a statement of lesser credibility than the recruiting site’s commitment credits.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
No project guy
We are Texas and coming off a 5-7 season means we need to improve now. we can’t afford a project guy and risk another 5-7 or worst.
by Hook'em2012 on Dec 13, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
So just out of curiosity, a coach can’t be a good recruiter if his name isn’t attached to rivals.com with a list of the people they are recruiting?
I’ll remember that the next time someone says a head coach is a great recruiter…
Also…keep in mind that you’re going to be hard pressed to sign a defensive kid if he doesn’t like the defensive coordinator.
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Austin hasn't even completed a single recruiting season yet.
He was hired after NSD 2010. This doesn’t support the case that he’s a solid recruiter. He’s also not a head coach. He has no real track record at all in that department. How can you conclude that he’s a solid recruiter, then?
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 14, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions
He is? On what do you base that statement?
Because right now there I’m not seeing anything that indicates that he is, other than your word. I’m not trying to offend you, but I really just want to know what support there is for that statement. You did mention that Showers likes Austin, but that doesn’t actually mean that Austin recruited him, and while I’m not exactly doing an exhaustive, refined search, googling Showers and Austin’s names brings up one link I can find that indicates that Showers said that about Austin: this page. Where’s the support?
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 14, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
Showers was just one example yes. All I’m saying is that nobody was complaining at all about any of the defensive recruits this year that Austin had talked with.
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Do you know where we can find out which ones were talking with him?
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 14, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Also, what's Showers' significance?
He not really a national prospect, is he? Duane Akina has to have much more credibility in recruiting than Austin does, I imagine. He has an established track record of coaching up excellent defensive backs, and furthermore, putting them in the early rounds of the NFL draft. He’s coached a number of Thorpe Award winners and candidates. Austin coached Seattle 2003-2006, and Arizona 2007-2009. The pass defense rankings for those years:
2003 – 27th
2004 – 23rd
2005 – 25th
2006 – 16th
2007 – 28th
2008 – 22nd
2009 – 23rd
That makes one season in the top half of the league. He was mediocre in the NFL. He can tell recruits that he coached in the NFL, which is something, but he didn’t do very well. The one site I’ve usually found usable for tracking older statistical rankings, Yahoo Sports, seems to be down right now, but when it’s up I’ll post how Michigan ranked in terms of pass defense while Austin was there under English.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 14, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
What if my screen name was the_real_randy_shannon?
And I said that I am absolutely going to be the next DC at Texas?
Does that make it true?
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by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 14, 2010 3:42 AM CST up reply actions
This season
I always thought the defense had become pretty vanilla. Very few blitzes and when they were called they didn’t even try to disguise them. I thought Austin was ok but seemed to have caught the NFL AIDS.
The secondary, outside of Will Hill being a giant bust, was definitely the highlight but the line & linebackers left much to be desired. At times it looked like we could not wrap up a tackle to save our lives. He’s probably a better position coach than defensive playcaller, unless he learns to be more aggressive.
I for one welcome our new BOOM MF'ER overlord.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 14, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
I thought he was aggressive enough. The DL just fell apart and couldn’t do anything, so it wasn’t working like it should have. The LB’s did alright…AJ Jones was playing great at the beginning, I just think that Bostic is horrible.
Austin is just an NFL type of a guy as you said, and as we’ve (Gator fans) have said quite a bit. I just think if he gets his guys, that he knows and everything, he can be a good one.
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That makes him more of a project guy
He needs to earn his stripes at a lower level before DCing at a major program like Texas—or Florida, for that matter.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
I don’t really see what we’re supposed to get excited about. His pass defenses were bad in the NFL. He has very little experience as a recruiter. And Florida’s defense, in Florida fans’ opinions, was not that great and had a lot of problems. No thanks.
by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I just hope
we aren’t trying ‘tit for tat’ here. This guy has more to prove than any other candidate.
I mean, how effing good has Florida’s D been the past 2 years? I’m not impressed. WTF!!
Really? Gators have had a pretty solid defense.
- this year with Austin in his only year.
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top defense?
The gators had a great d under Strong. This year they were OK. granted like us their offense exposed their defense a lot but still. If Austin was up to the caliber we need here in Texas muschamps would keep him. there would not be any rumors of him going anywhere
by Hook'em2012 on Dec 13, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
This year’s defense was mainly young, inexperienced guys and leftovers who weren’t good enough to go pro. Janoris Jenkins, Omar Hunter, and the oft-injured Jaye Howard were about the only exceptions to that rule.
The fact that Austin got that group to the top ten of total defense is pretty remarkable. Of course, he was also largely running Charlie Strong’s scheme with the help of co-defensive cooridinator Chuck Heater. Still though, he did a better job than a lot of people think.
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Its easy to be a statistically good defense
When an offense only has to score 8 points to beat us most games.
I think we were well coached, but vanilla. The entire team lost its “edge” when our coach went on whatever meds they put him on. Lost intensity.
I for one welcome our new BOOM MF'ER overlord.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 14, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
I know some would be disappointed in this, but
check this paragraph
Former Miami head coach Randy Shannon has been rumored to be gaining strong consideration for the same position and while it looks like Austin will grab the coordinator job, coach Shannon is still an option to fill another vacancy on the staff.
How effing awesome would that be!? No doubt we’d be able to get top Florida recruits with BOTH Austin and Shannon on the coaching staff.
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
That would be really odd
Austin’s an underwhelming hire for a program like Texas. He’d be a reasonable hire for a Big East school, but he’s beneath Texas’ level as a coordinator candidate, just as he was below Florida’s.
Shannon would be a remarkable hire. My only hope is that if Austin comes to Austin, it’s as either a sub-coordinator assistant (although that would mean losing the better DB coach in Duane Akina) or, at most, as a co-coordinator with Shannon.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 13, 2010 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
why?
why would he take any job here in austin other then coordinator? i dont think he would down grade from a top notch DC to linebackers coach? dont see it happening
by Hook'em2012 on Dec 13, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Recruitocosm
If it’s both Shannon and Austin, then that would likely mean Florida is going to poach Akina as Austin is a DB coach. That’s speculation.
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Recruitocosm
InsideTexas.com reporting that Austin has been tapped to be the new DC. We’re still hearing Shannon so it may be a co-coordinator deal.
by goingforthecorner on Dec 13, 2010 9:21 PM CST reply actions
Jesus (Recruitocosm) can't read.
Inside Texas does not have Austin as the new DC. He was mentioned in the member’s forum threads as a possibility, but that is it.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 13, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
Fail
Getting tired of the recruitogasm hype machine.
by BMG on Dec 13, 2010 10:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Flash: Big Bird on plane to Belmont
"you can destroy a man, but you cannot defeat him." - e.h.
by drankthewine on Dec 14, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
as a lover to JS, I can say he has no clue...
…what is going on in this one. he has done a great job telling about stuff, but he is deafly silent on this one and only reports stuff already reported by most…
from what i can gather, his biggest source has now gotten on a plane to florida, and he is much less informed about the inner workings of belmont.
by vanterminatorhorn on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Oh boy!
Nothing to like if we are only getting Austin! If we loose Akina, what about our recruits! I don’t know. It just does not pass the smell test.
Bud Foster?
Why hasn’t Bud Foster’s name been thrown around? Seems to me like he would be a good fit…
Only a head coaching job will get him out of VT.
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coaches will say anything
but I heard an interview on Sirius/XM with Bud about a week ago. He’s not going anywhere. I’m a skeptical guy but there wasn’t a thing he said that would give me a second of doubt that he’d leave his job. Doesn’t want to run a program, wants to coach a defense.
I for one welcome our new BOOM MF'ER overlord.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 14, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Austin??
Who the hell is that? We need a brand recognized name like shannon to create buzz and for recruiting…
This would be a major disappointment if true
by jtdiddy on Dec 13, 2010 10:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I call BS...
Kirby isn’t leaving Bama and the rest with Austin doesn’t add up. Austin hadn’t spoke with Mack at noon and now he’s hammered out a deal..? I would also hope Mack is smarter than this. Shannon may provide more for our program than Muschamp did in my estimation. On that note, has there been any REAL confirmation that RS was on the 40 acres today? Please lie to me if necessary…
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by isoldmycopilot on Dec 13, 2010 10:55 PM CST reply actions
Lets just all relax
and let Mack handle this…he knows what he is doing. Trust him. He’s given us 13 years worth of reasons to trust him.
Funny, innit?
That those who believe Will Muschamp is the greatest thing since sliced bread [not aiming at any particular commenter here] also think Mack Brown is incapable of choosing a good DC.
"fits the requirements in the job posting (12 yrs college, 7 yrs NFL)"
Those are the Preferred Qualifications. The Required Qualifications are….
Bachelor’s degree. Successful experience as an assistant football coach at an elite level. Experience coaching in the NFL. Ability to project the image of the University of Texas and the UT Men’s Athletics Department with dignity and grace regardless of circumstances and environments. Excellent interpersonal and communication skills. Professional demeanor.
Shannon is qualified for the position.
I was thiking the same thing.
While everyone is busy crying in their Wheaties and speculating on who’ll come in to coach our (hopefully at least) mediocre football team next year - our hoops team is deserving of our full attention right now.
Unfortunately, it looks like
DeAndre Daniels won’t be making the trip like expected.
by GoHornsGo90 on Dec 14, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
Was not impressed with anything from UF this year
Admittedly, they played a lot of freshmen who thought they were going to be good just b/c they wore the UF uniform (sound familiar?). Wonder how Austin has fared against the spread? Shannon has more experience against a variety of offenses in the ACC.
I think anybody in our eyes is a downgrade but having one year as a DC under his belt concerns me.
I hope Mack doesn’t have the same mind set with OC decision. Is this the best Texas can do…I think we know that answer.
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