247 Sports Reporting Davis to Resign Today
I know we're not wanting to speculate, but this would seem to be a huge deal. Things could be fixing to ramp up.
UPDATE: According to the same article, Davis will resign today, but there's no definitive time for an announcement. I'll believe it when it's official, but as mentioned with this much smoke you have to think there's fire.
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I thought size (of the day) didn't matter
I feel like all these recruiting sites are in a big “When will Greg resign office pool” and if they just keep picking dates and times, figuring one will hit and they can say “see, we called it…high five”
It’s like betting on every horse to win at the KY Derby or shutting down your peanut shelling factory to look for golden tickets in boxes and boxes of specially marked Wonka Bars.
Feels cheap, even for a pay site.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
very much agree. It has been like this for weeks with each one of them thinking they have the “Official” word. It will be nice to just get some closure to this whole mess. Not to mention how this whole drama could negatively impact recruiting…
So when Mack makes sweeping changes we should expect sweeping changes?
That headline was written by a 5th grader.
Sports is man's joke on God, You see, God says to man, 'I've created a universe where it seems like everything matters, where you'll have to grapple with life and death and in the end you'll die anyway, and it won't really matter.' So man says to God, 'Oh, yeah? Within your universe we're going to create a sub-universe called sports, one that absolutely doesn't matter, and we'll follow everything that happens in it as if it were life and death.'" - Sam Kellerman
Too Many Rumors....
for something to NOT happen now. If Davis stays now, Mack has some explaining to do.
The slow wave is our best weapon.
almost had a heart attack
When I thought it said “re-sign”, not “resign”
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According to my source...
and believe me, he’s a top source. Top source. In fact, his screen name is: “Holy-Ghostbuster” and he’s like a level 4 Paladin or some crazy shit like that. Anyway, according to his Holiness…
Greg is going to host a press conference today down at the gym that was named after him, Gregory, of course, and he will walk to the mic and put 3 hats on the podium…a sous chef puffy hat, an assistant train conductor hat, and an historically accurate Civil War reenactment assistant to the regional general beret.
If this happens, my name is 54b. If not, my name is HornsDeep69.
I also want to say, thanks, Greg, for your contribution to the University of Texas. Few OC’s won more games and got less credit for them. 2008 vs. OU was your masterpiece and I’ll always appreciate you for that game.
If you’re not long for your current position, I wish you all the best in your next one.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 1:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh and Vegas puts Greg picking the sous chef hat at 3 to 1 minus the vig...but please...
no wagering.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Did your source have any news on any new Muschanp to Miami rumors?
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Actually, yes...
It’s down to Miami or the opening at his alma mater….Sherman Seaside High…apparently they missed the Georgia State Playoffs – Private School for Incorrigible Boys Division – for the first time in like 10 years. It’s a plum position, I mean Peach.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
If we lose him, and I fear we will, I will blame GD
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Sometimes you have to let the angry butterfly go...
if it comes back to you, then you know it’s tough love.
if it doesn’t come back, then you know it wasn’t meant to be.
I blame myself.
I’m so cold. Hold me.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I want to be your friend in real life.
You write funny.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
If only I was real.
Unfortunately, I’m just PB’s vanishing twin…thank goodness Mama Bean gave me the sense of humor, she knew it would be the only thing keeping me warm in his shadow.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
If only I were real.
Hypothetical subjunctive, come on!
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
We could have Davis-inspired haikus
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greg davis haikus go; like his taste in offenses; always sideways.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
08 RRS was a masterful job
and no one remembers that
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by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Actually
the fact that everyone does remember (and constantly cites) the one game in which he did what other elite coordinators do on a pretty regular basis is the greatest indictment of his talents. If Davis were anywhere near the coordinator his defenders contend, that one game would be obscured by the many like it.
No, of course, I'm not defending him as a whole.
But that was an inspired performance.
Also, really smart people like Chris Brown seem to respect Greg Davis.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
It would also help if Texas played the #1 ranked team in the country every Saturday...
then it would be like that one game was so obscure, it was just scure.
Bottom line, he was the winningest OC this past decade. Did it help that Mack brought in a bunch of blue chip players, yeah, but he still had to direct them.
I’m not saying the man doesn’t need to go because it’s obvious something in this program needs to change, but let’s not act like he’s the only problem or the that the past decade was some cosmic accident where the blind hog found the acorn a statistically astonishing 84% of the time.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
The problem is that Davis was both considered elite by the media
and compensated as such by Bellmont, when he clearly wasn’t elite. Elite coordinators do what he did in the 08 RRR several times per season, not per career. Elite coordinators foster innovation, like Bill Walsh’s revolutionary ball-distribution, the Wildcat formation, Dana Holgorson’s “pistol wing” (or whatever you want to call it). Elite coordinators produce disciples who spread their offenses around to various coaching staffs around the league.
Davis was not elite, and needn’t have been coaching elite talent at an elite school, nor should he have been collecting elite income or elite awards. But he was, and it is unjustifiable.
Wow, so what you are saying is...
Greg Davis pulled one over on the media, Mack Brown, Belmont, and the majority of people working in college football the last thirty some odd years, but you somehow managed to pull back curtain and come up with…Greg Davis is not elite.
I’m not a huge X’s and O’s fan, but I think you’d be surprised to find out how many coaches visited Texas to learn from Greg Davis. Maybe the read option isn’t considered “innovative” or “elite,” but I think few would argue that given the right personnel, few teams ran it better than Texas under Greg Davis.
No, he will not be remembered as second coming of Bill Walsh or some kind of OC Genius, but all I said was “the guy didn’t suck.” Could we do better than him…well, we’re about to find out and I’m not saying shouldn’t find out.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
So, underneath your antagonism
do you think he was elite?
Davis adapted his schemes from other coaches, not the other way around. Exactly what contributions did he make to the game? Where is his coaching tree?
If in fact Davis is gone, perhaps the only pleasure that will surpass the experience of watching someone else call plays will be the fading echo of apologist arguments.
Reread this thread and tell me again...
who fired the first antagonistic shot…I just said I enjoyed his work in the 08 RRR, Kindle concurred, and you’re the one that got on your high horse and nominated yourself lead counsel in The People Vs. Greg Davis.
There’s no debate hear…me saying the guy didn’t suck and you saying he wasn’t elite are not diametrically opposed arguments.
Regardless, I think Davis’ record speaks for itself and only time will tell and history will judge as to whether he’s considered elite.
In my book, he’s elite simply because he rose to the level of OC at one of the elite football programs in college football and managed not to get fired for 13 years. Now if your definition of elite is Bill Walsh, no, I don’t think he’s elite.
And you won’t find one post from me saying he shouldn’t be let go. It is time for some new blood. All I’m saying is show the guy a little respect. Do you want him to apologize to you because Belmont paid him well and the media thought he was elite?
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
And what have I said that was antagonistic?
I posted an opinion that, by most observations, constitutes a majority opinion in these parts, to which you replied “wow.”
Be careful, 54b. You're sounding hysterial, juvenile and linear.
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He sounds none of the above.
Why are you instigating?
So I clicked “here” and was mildly disappointed not to have been directed toward Mark Mangino in a tub chugging orange juice.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 5, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Just keep clicking. One day you will be rewarded.
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn't it Major's idea to go 4-wide and put Shipley in the TE slot?
After that, we dominated.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
That's because Tech in 2008 looked like this season
We didn’t lose that game because of Gideon’s drop or Crabtree’s incredible reception between Gideon and Thomas.
We lost it because our offense was horrible for the first three quarters.
Ah, 2008 RRS
When GD personally injured Ryan Reynolds, then realized “I have no idea how to effectively get my receivers the ball when they are split wide, so I may as well move my best receiver to the slot” and then cast his magic “lifetime of chemistry” spell on Colt and Shipley. That’s some damn fine coordinating…
On the non-facetious side, in that game he did do a great job of exploiting a fortuitous weakness in OU’s defense (on of the few times he EVER seemed to gameplan around an opponent, or gameplan in general). I’m fine with us remembering the one or two times a year when he actually seemed to contribute to the success of the offense, but let’s not forget that we are finally getting rid of a bad, bad coordinator, and cheers to that.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Dec 5, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Please don't forget to take your Cialis...
Cuz you don’t know when the Greg Davis resignation is going to go down and you want to be ready…however, if the Press Conference lasts longer than 4 hours, see your doctor…for more Cialis.
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd for the comedy/sarcasm
And for the GD love at the end…me too.
I have gotten my hopes up once already
Please let this be the real thing.
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
Georgia Oc
Mike Bobo any think he mite come to Texas coach with Muschamp
There will be a lot of speculation on replacements.
And MB/WM’s choices will also depend other vacancies. For instance, Kevin Wilson met with the Indiana athletic director for the HC job. If Greg Davis is, in fact, gone the Land Thieves may also be in the market for an OC.
The article is still there
But says “not yet published” and doesn’t appear under the news tab, you have to have a direct link to it. I wonder…
Come on, Greg
Just “resign” already so I can get work done instead of refreshing news sites.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
I'm for criticism
I’m not for ridicule. There are several immature posters on this site, as well as many others, who don’t know the difference. Is this what it has come to?
Don’t get me wrong as I believe that change, organizational speaking, has to occur. It is obvious there are systemic issues to address.
However, does that give anyone license to belittle a key cog in the wheel of what has arguably been one of the best runs in college football? Sure, more trophies would have been nice. But Greg helped pull the Longhorn brand out of the abyss. At the very least that should be worth your gratitude. If he resigns/retires, he deserves a nice watch and all the platitudes we can offer.
Be careful what you ask for. You do not always get what you want.
Y’all need to grow a pair in regard to kindness and empathy. Those traits are very becoming of the Longhorn nation I have come to adore.
by TXStampede on Dec 5, 2010 4:18 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
But Greg helped pull the Longhorn brand out of the abyss.
This.
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by pleaseplaykindle on Dec 5, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
I approved this message
This really needed to be said. Thank you.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 5, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
Very well said.
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Greg Davis: I have not resigned
Round and round we go….
We aren't really going round
We’re standing still and recruiting sites are posting rumor after rumor from sources who cannot know the future.
Are you saying Jesus (Shuttlesworth) can't predict the future?
Or hit a curve ball?
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by 54b on Dec 5, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
The most disturbing part of this article
is that Mack is in New York attending banquets instead of in Austin trying to un-fuck our football program.
If the world was a school, we'd be homecoming king...
You do realize he has obligations as head coach, right?
Leaders like Mack can walk and chew gum at the same time. Some things like that are necessary expectations of the head coach, and it’s unrealistic to expect him to cancel out on all of them for this, especially in the airplane age when he can travel to and fro in a matter of a couple of hours.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
They continue to "evaluate their situation"
GD: Come on Mack, how far back do we go?
Mack: I know, but you suck at your job.
GD: Well, I don’t when I have all-timers playing QB. This is really your fault for not recruiting well enough.
Mack: That is a good point…
GD: And won’t Sally be disappointed if you fire your best friend? Christmas dinner will be so awkward this year!
Mack: Will you at least come up with a few new plays?
GD: And confuse the hell out of these kids? We both know you’ve been recruiting well enough for us to move the ball with screens and slants.
Mack: But you just said…
GD: That settles it! See you in August.
Greg Davis merrily strolls off
Mack: Well, it’s not like they’re going to fire me, right?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
So assuming changes happen, what's the dream scenario?
Mine:
Holgorsen or Malzahn at OC. Seriously, either one. Don’t care. Each has had down days, but these things happen. It’ll happen at Texas, too, no matter who ends up as OC.
Major at QBs.
Tyke Tolbert at WRs.
Brewster at TEs and STs.
Chambers at RBs and recruiting coordinator.
And I’ll leave the OL to someone who knows the talent out there a little better. I would think Iowa or Wisconsin would be the places to look first.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 5, 2010 10:20 PM CST reply actions
Dream scenario? I'll play
2011 record of 9-3 minimum.
Win RRR.
GG with 22 TD’s and 3 Int’s.
Brown and Shead thunder and lightning for 1,400 yards.
Emanuel Acho with 8 sacks and 20 tfl’s.
Whatever coaching alignment can pull this off is o.k. by me.
So what would be your dream (but still realistic) coaching staff?
I mean, if we’re just talking about 2011 results, I see no reason not to expect ten wins, a good shot at winning the RRR, and a possible BCS bid. I think problems were apparent in 2010, but I don’t think things are so terrible that even a full holdover of this year’s staff wouldn’t have had a chance at those results. Improving the staff could improve chances.
Of course, changes might not actually improve anything. For example, Rich Rodriguez over Lloyd Carr at Michigan…
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 5, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
That is a sound observation
Certainly we all feel the talent is there. Just not sure if the right mix of talent is there. Let’s not forget we will still be relatively young no matter who is manning the wheel.
Regarding realistic coaching staff, I think Matt Balis, who is the strength coach from Mississippi State, would be a nice hire. That team always strikes me as playing above their talent level. He just completed his first year at MSU. He was on the ‘04-’06 Florida strenght staff and we all know what they did.
As for offensive side, I like what Garrick McGee has done in Arkansas as first year OC (impressive bio here). Certainly there is debate regarding his actual “running” the offense given Petrino’s hands on approach. But it is hard to argue against his first year results. He is my “under the radar” pick.
There are many “eye candy” type coaches that would bring a lot of hype….and a lot of expectation. I just don’t see a “quick fix” scenario 01 AG (assuming Mr. Davis departs).
who on your roster is mobile enough to make Malzahn's offense work?
he likes a mobile QB who can run the option if needed, can Gilbert do that?
I don't think he really needs that
He used Chris Todd, for example, and he’s about as mobile as Drew Bledsoe. He used Smith and Johnson at Tulsa before that. Mustain’s the most mobile QB he really used prior to Newton, I think, and Gilbert seems to be about as mobile as Mustain, wouldn’t you say?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions
Looks to be official
Davis resigns, Tolley & McWhorter retiring
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