Greg Davis Resigns, Tolleson and McWhorter Retire
University of Texas football Sports Information Director John Bianco has confirmed to the Austin American-Statesman that Texas will announce this morning the resignation of Longhorns offensive coordinator Greg Davis. Bianco additionally confirmed that the retirements of offensive line coach Mac McWhorter and defensive line coach Mike Tolleson will be announced.
No word yet as to what time the official announcement will be made. The official announcement is up at MB-TF:
Three Texas football coaches will no longer be with the staff, Head Coach Mack Brown announced today. Longhorns Associate Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach Mac McWhorter and Defensive Tackles Coach/Special Teams Coordinator Mike Tolleson have decided to retire from coaching, while Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach Greg Davis has resigned. McWhorter and Tolleson's retirements and Davis' resignation will be effective August 31, 2011, but a search for their replacements will begin immediately.
Davis has served as a head or assistant coach at the collegiate level for 38 years, the last 13 at Texas. He has been a part of Brown's staff for the past 15 years and a total of 18 years dating back to their time together at Tulane.
McWhorter spent nine of his 37 years in coaching on UT's staff, serving as the Longhorns' offensive line coach from 2003-10. He coached offensive tackles and tight ends in 2002, and was promoted to associate head coach in 2005.
A veteran of 37 years in coaching, Tolleson coached at UT for 13 of those seasons as defensive tackles coach and also coordinated special teams beginning in 2000.
"These are three special people who have given a lot of themselves and their families to The University of Texas and its football program," Brown said. "We appreciate everything they've done to help us have such great success during their lengthy stays with our staff at Texas. When you look at the last six years, especially - winning a National Championship in 2005, finishing No. 3 in 2008 and then being the runner-up after a tough loss to Alabama last year - it's just amazing what they've helped us accomplish.
"They are not only great coaches, but men who handled themselves with tremendous integrity, class and dignity on and off the field during their time here. I want to say thank you and wish them well because they will be missed."
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These gentlemen gave us some bad times, but also some good times. Thanks for all their contributions, best of luck to them, and let’s trust that Texas will right the ship.
Hook ’em.
I don't always watch football, but when I do, I prefer Dos Achos. Stay thirsty, my friends.
Will most likely to take over Cleve Bryant's role as bad-cop
as per Jesus.
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Eh, go ahead and delete my fanshot
Anyway, I’m one that believes that it’s likely they’ll announce the exit of the old at the same time as the selection of the new, but the timing makes someone like Malzahn seem a little less likely then.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 10:55 AM CST reply actions

What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
by inVINCEable on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Merry Early Christmas
This was inevitable, but so thankful for it to finally come to fruition. It’s time for Texas to move on and give something (and somebody) else a try.
Thank you Will Muschamp,
Powers, Tex Moncrief, and others (including GD and his bubble screens) who helped make this happen
Thanks to GD for his years of service and agreeing to a graceful way to leave (resigning)
Today is a very good day.
May I have my celebration thread now?
What we have here is a failure to execute.
Do it
I need some joy in this my last week ever of studying for law school finals.
by CVictoryJoyously on Dec 6, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
So jealous
I have one more semester.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
From a motivation standpoint
I can tell you, the hardest one is coming up, but it’s still school so there are naps which is nice.
by CVictoryJoyously on Dec 6, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Happy dance. :-)
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Vince Guaraldi
is a regular on my ipod throughout the month of December, a bit of a personal tradition of mine. A few days ago I indulgently proclaimed him the Greatest American.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
We actually agree on something- music.
I’m not sure if I should now re-evaluate my taste in music and possibly my whole existence.
I’m still have that maroon polo.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
The EXTREME version of
The Happy Dance being done right now.
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
We're... We're going streaking! We're going up the quad and to the gymnasium.
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
I could really go for some Whataburger
They are not exsistant up here in VA.
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
It finally happened.
Miracle on the Forty Acres.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Should we get Kurt Russell to star in that one as well?
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
y'all can have some of ours
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/46617
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
I know what you're dealing with.
Just got back to Houston from Kalamazoo. Snowed constantly.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
And the odds of any actual "work" being done today,,
just went to zero. Happy Hour!!!
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
Well give some stats on this Bryan Harsin
Maybe I just did not care this season, but I have no idea about his coordinator skills.
Forget it, I quit, I can't do this anymore, man. My head's about to explode. My whole life sucks! I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know where I'm going. My dad just died, we just killed Bambi, I'm out here getting my ass kicked and every time I drive down the road I wanna jerk the wheel into a Goddamn bridge emankment!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
If he likes to run AND pass and uses more than 3 formations
then I’m in
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Think
Boise St. If you like them, you like Harsin
Will we paint the turf
at DKR a lovely burnt orange now?
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
Haha Clever
A little gimicky for my taste, but intimidating non-the-less!
If DeLoss could find a way to charge somebody
a couple million, yeah, we’d probably go orange. Regardless of color, I just want to win a few HOME games next fall.
there is some question as to how much of the offense at BSU is Harsin's creation and how much is Harsin following Peterson's orders.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
BSU
Yes, but Harsin has been learning from Peterson, at the least.
BSU’s offense is thrilling when they execute properly, but that’s the catch (no pun intended)… difficulty… as many of the pass plays appear high risk, high reward. MB would have to compromise on his own conservativeness.
The offense is Peterson's
The play calling and implementation is all Harsin. It has been for about the past 3 years in fact. Let me be the first to say, Malcolm Brown would dominate in a Boise State offense. Also, Joe Bergeron would be a beast as a FB.
In my opinion, this is best for long term, and I think that we’ll be surprised by short term as well. We have the incoming freshman along with last years class that would fit perfectly into his system.
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This would be a pretty good jump for him, as well
Boise just landed in the Las Vegas Bowl, and if anyone is getting a good head-coaching job from that program, it is more likely to be Peterson first.
I would be excited to see what Harsin can do with our talent.
I didn’t mean my post to sound like a caveat regarding Harsin. I was just adding my two cents to HR’s comment about not knowing about Harsin’s coordinating skills. It’s possibly he is just riding Perterson’s coat-tail, but I would be optimistic and excited if he got the job.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
Even if he is on Peterson's coat-tail
I still think its not a bad thing. He knows the offense. He may not be the creator, but he is the implementer.
Here is the reason why I like this possible hire
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Thanks for the link.
I skimmed it earlier on in the season but didn’t read it in detail. I"ll bookmark it this time and read it for real. Thanks again.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LbvFckptY
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
Wha...no Mad Dog, no Kennedy?
I call bullshit! Bevo size!
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Wha...no Mad Dog, no Kennedy?
I call bullshit! Bevo size!
by Ese-De-SA on Dec 6, 2010 11:15 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I honestly have mixed feelings about this.
While I believe this change is for the best for the program and I certainly agree there is a need. I feel somewhat sorry for Davis. His limitations always overshadowed his accomplishments. His mistakes were not born of a lack of effort only of imagination and I don’t think he will ever get the credit he does deserve.
To me it is not cause for celebration when someone loses a job. Good luck in your endeavors Greg.
by billb on Dec 6, 2010 11:16 AM CST reply actions 11 recs
Thanks, billb
a voice of reason. This program lost 9 games in the six seasons from 2004-09, and three total in ‘04-’05-‘08-09 . . . Greg Davis wasn’t just along for the ride all those years.
Agreed
He was loyal Longhorn and he bleeds burnt orange. I thank him for his years of service and some great times. I also wish him the best of luck wherever he lands.
The time was right for this change and it can be a win-win for everyone involved in Longhorn football, including the coaches that will be moving on to new positions elsewhere.
I rarely, if ever, find glee in someone’s misfortune. I have sat through hours of bubble screens, watching our offense go right to left instead of forward and had to endure a massive o-line failure on a weekly basis.
Forget the whole be a “better human being” thingy. I’m celebrating.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
don't insult misfortune's name
what happened to GD was squarely in his control. it is only misfortune when there is nothing you can do about it.
Ex: The Longhorn faithful suffered bubble screen misfortune after embarrassingly shortsighted game plan misfortune during the 2010 football season.
We don't know that.
GD was not the HC. Unless we know what communication went on between MB and GD, we cannot say how much was under GD’s control.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
The entire offensive scheme, maybe?
and play calls. Don’t get me wrong, I respect the man but he’ll never go down as a top innovator. I don’t much care who we hire to replace him as long as he’s got a creative mindset. I am looking forward to some unpredictability.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Dec 6, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Come on, DC
He had a tremendous winning record and really only one “bad” season (i.e., .500 season).
Yes, I hated the bubble screen, and the draws on 3rd-and-10. But the man still had a pretty remarkable career here.
by tblog123 on Dec 6, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's be honest, he probably had the most talent of any OC during in his tenure.
Also we could out athlete 85% of the teams we played during his tenure and win.
most talent?
I think the OCs at Florida, and Ohio St. would argue that.
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by TexasGarcia37 on Dec 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely disagree
VY and Simms were top talents, although some could certainly argue Simms wasn’t as gifted as billed (he certainly didn’t develop into a star). But Davis also made great producers out of unheralded players like Hodges Mitchell, Colt McCoy, and Jordan Shipley (yes, I know he had four stars next to his name, but he wasn’t a top national recruit, was he?).
I think people vastly overstate the level of talent on offense. Vince was arguably the most talented player in the nation, and he turned into arguably the best player in the nation. But the talent probably wasn’t the best in the nation more than one, possibly two years the entire time Davis was there.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I appreciate his contributions
But I don’t feel sorry for him. It’s a tough business that he’s in and he knows it. He got to work for a great/understanding/loyal boss for a very long time, had all the tools he needed to do his best work, he was well compensated and some would say that the talent at Texas extended his career by several years. We should all be so lucky.
And, like everyone, I wish him and his family nothing but the best going forward.
And, like everyone, I wish him and his family nothing but the best going forward.
Absolutely. Just have the best elsewhere, not being our off. coordinator.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
rec'd
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I'd just like to say...
a sincere thank you to Greg Davis for 2005 and 2008. It was time for you to go, but great memories.
All the best.
Why is GD retiring?
Surely an elite coordinator like him should end up at another big time program right?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
i thought he was resigning...
while Mac/Tolleson are retiring. Semantics.
by longhornscardinals on Dec 6, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe
The difference is that Davis saying that he is resigning means that he wants to continue to coaching and he will probably have a chance to do that at the coordinator level somewhere.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 6, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Interesting litmus test
to see how GD does on the free market.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
He's always been on the free market.
It’s not like people haven’t known that he was the OC for the 2005 Nat’l Champions.
Yeah, but it was pretty well known that he had no interest in leaving his current position
that, or there was suspiciously little interest for the now-greatest-offensive-coordinator-ever. I’d say it was more of him just being Mack’s guy (although the lack of inquiries doesn’t surprise me at all), so it will be interesting to see if there are any schools who are under the impression that he could actually help them.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
All day I've been imagining some poor fanbase inheriting Davis...
and when they try to return him, I want to be the one sitting in the rocking chair in front of Bellmont saying “You just keep right on driving.”
Offensive line
As big as getting a new offensive coordinator is getting a new offensive line coach. The O-line did not perform this year. Nothing about this year was good, and I won’t try to parse out the cause and effect (did the scheme make the O-look bad, or did the O-line ruin the scheme, or was it both?), but what I saw most of the year was defenses disrupting what we were trying to do. I feel (not know) we had bad play calling and unprepared schemes. I wonder how much the plays were designed to mitigate the deficient O-line. What I’m saying is that I am more concerned about the O-line coach hire than I am about the OC hire. Am I crazy?
Happy day!
MacWhoter is retiring.
My celebration is as much for his retirement as Davis’ resignation.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I'm almost more excited about MacWhoter...
I vaguely remember having a line that could run block…or was that a dream too.
I would add changes to the strength and conditioning program to that as well.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 6, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
So is Mad Dog out?
Or just changing up his programs?
Recruitocosm has reported that he will be out
and I think I may have seen some other rumors to that effect, but nothing has happened yet there.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Dec 6, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
If you have a great O-Line, even bad playcalling can look all right.
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 6, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Kriess, if I didn't know better
I’d say you wanted Harsin?
by SneezyBeltran on Dec 6, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
What can I say
I think its the best possible option when looking at the impacts, negative and positive, then trying to establish a cost/benefit analysis. Upon that, I find Harsin.
:)
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Absolutely
Before we dance in the streets over 3 men losing their jobs, we need to find out who their replacements will be. And for those who respond “We can’t do any worse,” I seem to recall that Fred Akers was replaced by David McWilliams, who was himself replaced by John Mackovick. Things do not always get better because you replace someone.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
No place to go but up.
Sorry, I you you’re very sad, but replacing a bottom 10% OC with pretty much anyone will be an improvement.
"Bottom 10% OC"
Based on what exactly?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Hardly.
It’s ignorant to think that the primary culprit in the worst collapse of a MNC contender in the history of the NCAA is anything better than a bottom 10%er. Though, I may be giving him too much credit.
So where do all those OCs who haven't played for two championships in the last six seasons fall?
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Somewhere that properly correlates with the talent level they have to work with
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Well...
….you’re welcome to claim that he wasn’t purely awful before this season, and I would disagree with you there as well, but he aspired to to do less with more THIS season, and nailed that goal perfectly.
Hmmmm ...
… well who was that UT OC from 2000-2009 that averaged 39.0 ppg, which was 2nd-highest scoring average nationally and best among all BCS conferences? Or who was the offensive coordinator responsible for setting an NCAA record of 50.2 ppg in 2005? “Bottom 10% of OCs” is very ignorant of a statement. How quickly they forget! AND Be careful what you wish for!
Press release draft? Posted on Shaggybevo by 3dg
AUSTIN, Texas ? Three Texas football coaches will no longer be with the staff, Head Coach Mack Brown announced today. Longhorns Associate Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach Mac McWhorter and Defensive Tackles Coach/Special Teams Coordinator Mike Tolleson have decided to retire, while Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach Greg Davis has resigned. McWhorter and Tolleson’s retirements and Davis’ resignation will be effective August 31, 2011, but a search for their replacements will begin immediately.
Davis has served as a head or assistant coach at the collegiate level for 38 years, the last 13 at Texas. He has been a part of Brown’s staff for the past 15 years and a total of 18 years dating back to their time together at Tulane.
McWhorter spent nine of his 37 years in coaching on UT’s staff, serving as the Longhorns’ offensive line coach from 2003-10. He coached offensive tackles and tight ends in 2002, and was promoted to associate head coach in 2005.
A veteran of 37 years in coaching, Tolleson coached at UT for 13 of those seasons as defensive tackles coach and also coordinated special teams beginning in 2000.
"These are three special people who have given a lot of themselves and their families to The University of Texas and its football program," Brown said. "We appreciate everything they’ve done to help us have such great success during their lengthy stays with our staff at Texas. When you look at the last six years, especially ? winning a National Championship in 2005, finishing No. 3 in 2008 and then being the runner-up after a tough loss to Alabama last year ? it’s just amazing what they’ve helped us accomplish.
"They are not only great coaches, but men who handled themselves with tremendous integrity, class and dignity on and off the field during their time here. I want to say thank you and wish them well because they will be missed."
Davis, a native of Port Neches-Groves, Texas, and a McNeese State grad, has guided several of the most explosive offensive units in Longhorns history and tutored three quarterbacks who are currently in the NFL (Colt McCoy, Chris Simms and Vince Young). His offenses have virtually re-written Texas’ team and individual record book.
"I’ve had a great 13 years here and enjoyed every minute of it," Davis said. "It’s a tremendous university with great people, and I wish them nothing but the best. It’s been a pleasure working with not only all of the great quarterbacks I’ve been fortunate enough to coach, but all of the terrific young men on both sides of the ball. I will miss all of the players, coaches and staff, but will always have great memories of the success the players and teams I was a part of were able to achieve at Texas."
Davis’ UT offenses have produced 10 of the top 11 passing seasons, 11 of the top 13 total yardage campaigns and the top nine scoring years in school history. Texas averaged 39.0 points per game in the last decade (2000-09), which ranked second nationally and first among BCS conference schools. The Horns averaged at least 35 ppg in nine of the 10 seasons, including three seasons of at least 40 ppg. In 2005, Davis claimed the Broyles Award as the nation’s top assistant coach after helping UT set a then-NCAA record with 652 total points and a school record by averaging 50.2 ppg.
During his time at Texas, Davis’ UT offense produced five Big 12 Offensive Players of the Year (RB Ricky Williams, 1998; QB Major Applewhite, 1999; QB Vince Young, 2005; QB Colt McCoy, 2008, ‘09). As UT’s quarterbacks coach, Davis tutored two runners-up for the Heisman Trophy and another finalist, two winners each of the Walter Camp Football Foundation Player of the Year Award, Maxwell Award, Davey O’Brien Award, Manning Award and Archie Griffin Award, along with a winner of the Unitas Golden Arm Award, a Sporting News Player of the Year, Chevrolet Offensive Player of the Year, four QBs who were Big 12 Offensive Players of the Year and three who earned league Freshman of the Year honors.
For McWhorter, five of the Texas linemen he has tutored are currently in the NFL, and seven have earned All-America honors on nine occasions with OT Jonathan Scott and OG/T Justin Blalock each garnering that recognition twice. He also helped C Dallas Griffin become UT’s first Draddy Trophy winner as the top student-athlete in college football in 2007.
"After a long and enjoyable 37 year career in coaching, the last nine at Texas, I have decided to retire," McWhorter said. "This is something that my wife, Becky, and I have talked about for a couple of years. Because of professional and family factors, we feel like the time is right.
"I would like to thank DeLoss Dodds, Mack Brown and everyone associated with The University of Texas for the tremendous experience. I am honored to have been a part of the outstanding success that we have enjoyed at Texas. I will cherish the memories of the National Championship that we won in 2005 and playing for another one in 2009. I feel blessed to have worked with some of the best coaches and men in the profession. Lastly, I have a deep love and appreciation for the players that I have coached and been associated with at Texas. They are a special group."
While McWhorter was at Texas, the offense has ranked in the top 10 in total offense three times and in the top 30 seven times. It was also in the top six in scoring offense on five occasions and in the top 16 eight times. McWhorter was named the 2008 Assistant Coach of the Year by the American Football Coaches Association when the line paved the way for the offense to rank fifth in scoring (42.4 ppg), seventh in passing (308.3 ypg) and ninth in total offense (475.8 ypg), and in 2005, the Longhorns finished first in scoring offense and third in total offense.
McWhorter’s coaching career includes stops as a head coach at both the collegiate and high school levels, as well as assistant coaching positions at schools such as Alabama, Clemson, Georgia and Georgia Tech. A native of Atlanta, McWhorter was a three-year letterwinner and two-year starter at Georgia from 1971-73. He earned All-Southeastern Conference honors as a senior and was a two-time Academic All-SEC pick (1972-73).
"Two of our three children are Texas graduates," McWhorter added. "Our son, Mac, a former UT player, graduated with his masters this weekend, and Katie graduated from UT in 2005. With my coaching and family ties to the Longhorns, Texas will always remain a big part of my life."
Tolleson’s development of the Horns’ interior line was crucial in transforming a defense that allowed 241.5 rushing yards per game in 1997 to four consecutive top six finishes from 2006-08 and culminating in 2009, when the Longhorns led the nation in rushing defense (72.4 ypg). The defense has also led the nation in pass efficiency defense (2000) and total defense (2001) in seasons during his tenure.
"It’s been a great 13 years. I’ve really enjoyed the relationships that I’ve built, especially with the players ? it’s always been about the players ? but also with the administration, staff and alums," Tolleson said. "I love Texas, but right now I feel it’s time to step away from coaching. Everybody has been great. It’s been a wonderful, wonderful experience, and I am so thankful to have had this kind of time here.
"I want to thank coach Brown and DeLoss Dodds and the staff and everyone I’ve been associated with, again, especially the players. I’ve made a lot of friends, and it’s been a great experience I’ll never forget. I’ve enjoyed every minute of being a part of the tradition of Texas and everything it stands for ? from being around people like coach Royal to the state, The University, the fans ? I’ll always treasure those things. Having an opportunity to play for the National Championship, it doesn’t get any better than that, so it’s been the ultimate for me as a football coach to be at a place like The University of Texas."
Under Tolleson, Texas developed a reputation of producing outstanding defensive linemen. It was never more evident than in the 2006 Super Bowl, where two former proteges played major roles for both teams in Pittsburgh’s Casey Hampton and Seattle’s Marcus Tubbs. Hampton won his second Super Bowl in 2009 with the Steelers. In addition, Cleveland Browns DT Shaun Rogers (3) and Hampton (5) have combined for eight Pro Bowl appearances, while Lamarr Houston (Oakland Raiders) and Roy Miller (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) are currently in the NFL. Frank Okam, Derek Lokey and Rod Wright (New York Jets) also have played in the NFL.
A native of Anniston, Ala., Tolleson has also coached at LSU, Southern Mississippi, UTEP, Stanford, Arkansas and Louisiana Tech, among others. He was a two-year letterman at Tampa University before transferring to Delta State, where he lettered in football and track. A 1970 graduate of Delta State, Tolleson earned a master’s degree from Livingston University in 1973.
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Office (512) 232-4248
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George.Wynn@athletics.utexas.edu
Davis’ resignation will be effective August 31, 2011?
that seems a little odd. Is this standard or when the new OC takes over does his resignation become effective immediately?
That's gotta have something to do...
…with time of service, or severance, or any number of non-football-related issues. He’ll be reassigned through 8/31/2011 once a new OC is onboard, I’d assume.
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I heard it has to do with...
GD needing a few more months to be eligible for retirement in the Texas Teacher’s Retirement system…not sure how accuarate that info is though…
Something like that makes perfect sense
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe that's where the rumors about him staying on in the athletic office came from
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
Whatcha wanna bet
Major and Will are out on the fifty yard line high-fiving each other with a bottle of Scotch??
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
Riiiggghhttttt
After a 5 win season, no bowl game to prep for, and begging recruits to hang tough and stay true to their commitment. I doubt very seriously that serious men would be drinking in public to the demise of their colleague.
I dont think he meant it literal
but I’m sure they are pleased the program is moving forward.
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No way.
What it means to them is that nobody is safe, not even a guy with the #2 scoring offense in the country from 2000 to 2009 after one poor year based mainly on a lack of execution by his players. They know that it’s time to bust your tail and not sit around drinking & high-fiving anybody!
I'm looking forward to the new direction
As some have said, I’m not kicking up my heels in celebration, because I think Davis, Mac, and Tolleson have done some great things at UT, and it’s not even close to a given that their replacements are going to represent improvements. However, I am looking forward to a little shake-up, because I do sense that things had become a little stale.
Let’s just keep our fingers crossed that the new direction turns out to be an upward one. Texas is already near the top of the college football world most of the time. The recruits are choice. The support is terrific. The resources are the best there are. Now let’s find the right sous-chef, saucier, etc. to turn the sacks of potatoes into something great.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions
Very well stated.
Don't click here. I might be promoting myself with frequently-changing photos from my portfolio. Or I might be linking to my favorite photos of Mark Mangino. You never know.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
It's pretty close to a given...
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Not really
Again, I think it’s important to look at some big disappointments in coaching hires. Franchione arrived at the farm after Slocum’s tenure had become stale, and he actually made things worse. Rodriguez arrived in Ann Arbor as a surefire improvement over the staled Carr era, and the program is barely bowl-eligible and not looking all that promising. It’s far from a given.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
but probably to a lesser extent. The examples you’re citing include head-coaching changes with complete staff over-hauls, which is not quite the situation here.
However, while I do believe keeping the best of the current staff and losing some of the dead weight is likely to result in immediate improvements, those improvements aren’t certain. I would say the most substantial danger lies not in finding a lesser coordinator, but perhaps in the chemistry of the new ensemble. Mack has never worked with any other OC.
This is true
Another consideration: the problem of instant gratification. That’s what many are expecting, at least if the comments sections on any Longhorns site are any sort of indicator. It’s really hard to change a scheme. Some people are really good at getting it done quickly, while others are not. But sometimes even a really good coordinator can take a while to implement his scheme.
I must say that Holgorsen and Malzahn have histories of instant gratification, which is why they seem like appropriate mercenaries to hire.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
and the "mercenary" factor could pose a problem
If Malzahn, for instance, is who Bellmont wants, and not necessarily who Mack wants, we could indeed have chemistry problems, which could result in mixed-messages to the players, in-fighting, altered game-day routines, etc.
Still, I’m optimistic based on previous defensive coordinator hires.
But if the rumors are true that a faction of coaches (Muschamp and Applewhite) have somewhat mutinied and are gradually taking over the program, and further, if they have a direct hand in a new OC that is not perfectly to Mack’s liking, we can expect some friction.
If push comes to shove, I have to admit that I'm on Mack's side, not Muschamp's
I’ve been seeing people associate Major with Muschamp in that regard, but it seems to be an assumption, not fact. But I really hope there isn’t this type of friction.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
Is there any evidence that UT is looking at Holgorsen?
This has been a thought that I have had but as we all know Boone will probably shell out all he has to keep Holgorsen. It wouldn’t surprise me if Boone tries to do something in order to keep Holgorsen before any interviews take place.
I agree.
Prior to Lloyd Carr being shown the door, Michigan fans thought they could get anyone they wanted (they found that they couldn’t) and that the program just needed a fresh approach to take it to the next level (we’ve seen how that worked out).
This winning thing isn’t as easy as Texas has made it look…
True.
But if you doing the same thing over and over again, you get the same result.
It is time for new results.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Totally agree
I just wonder how good Mack is at evaluating and attracting new coaches…other than from Auburn, I mean. Most of the big program drop offs involved a head coaching change and this, obviously, does not. We’ll see what approach Mack takes with the offense and what emphasis he places on special teams. Is he looking for coaches who want to be head coaches some day? One and done? How will openings at other schools affect his timing and his options?
No, moving on is clearly warranted and the potential reward outweighs the risk. Need younger/fresher talent and a certain amount of turnover is usually a good thing.
Well said, BOH
I agree totally that 3 loyal and long-time UT coaches losing their jobs should hardly be a time for celebration. And, as I have argued endlessly, it is very hard to fairly assess GD without being privy to all the conversations between MB and him, both during and between games. However, GD had become such a lightning rod for everything that went wrong from GG’s slow development, int’s, and missed blocks, to defensive failures (I still have to admire the creativity of those who explained how GD was the one responsible for defensive short-comings.), that we could not fairly assess what else might be wrong with the program. Most of all, I agree with you that it is not guaranteed that the replacement will be an inprovement. Just look at the history of our own program which went from Royal to Akers to McWilliams to Mackovick.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Dammit!
This means we can’t see any more masterpieces like the ‘08 RRS.
I’ll be googling coping mechanisms.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Coping mechanisms.
Celebration. Its all the same. Bottle of Crown does both.
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Meh
I don’t drink that often. But when I do I prefer neat whiskey or rye, such as a good Laphroaig or R1. But Jameson is always a good standby.
Woodford Reserve
Rockhill Farms
Wild Turkey Rare Breed
Bulleit (lowest quality of the group but still legit)
All fantastic bourbons. I would encourage you to sample each of them. They are some of my personal favorites.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Woodford Reserve
Is the best you can get for the money. It costs around $35-40 a fifth. To get higher quality, I’ve found that you have to get upward in the $50-65 range. I’d highly recommend it, and would be happy to recommend anything else depending on your tastes (I consider myself somewhat of a Bourbon buff). :)
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
I'm a Makers Mark man
myself. For the price it is very smooth and tasty.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Have you tried the 46 yet?
And if so, how is it? I’ve been aching to try it, but alas, I am a broke law student and have not gotten up the gumption to fork over the money for it Perhaps as a semester end celebration.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
I have not yet
but I haven’t bought a bottle in a while, either. I stay pretty close to home when it comes to alcohol. I am either beer or Maker’s Mark. I have been told the 46 is excellent, thought. I’m pretty simple. I just need a tumbler and a few ice cubes and I am ready to go.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Wow, just wow.
Y’all take being a sot to a whole new respectable level!
Brick Wall drink recipe using Woodford Reserve bourbon
I made this last week. it was F-ing delicious. Plus you can sip the WF neat while you make the actual drink.
Brick Wall
1.5oz apple cider syrup (see below)
1.5oz Woodford Reserve Bourbon Whiskey bourbon
Ginger ale
Lime wedge
1 slice green apple (if you’re into garnishes)
Combine equal parts syrup and bourbon in an ice-filled glass. Top off glass with a bit of ginger ale. Squeeze in lime. Optional: garnish with apple slice.
Apple cider syrup
Bring 0.25 cup sugar, 5 cracked allspice berries, 4 whole cloves and 0.75 inches of ginger root (peeled and sliced very thin) up to a simmer. Simmer 10 minutes. Kill heat and let steep for 90 minutes. Let cool and strain. The recipe here claims to make enough for 10 drinks, but that’s wrong. By my calculation, it makes enough for about 5.5 drinks.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
Sounds great but way too much trouble.
Plus Woodford Reserve sounds expensive. If you’re going to dilute it with apple cider and ginger ale, why not use some cheap bourbon, like Old Crow, Early Times, or Ancient Age?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Tonight my friend
I’m breaking out the Scotch. Oban 14 year old will do just fine.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
YAY for Scotch,,
30 year old Glen Farclas I’ve been saving for just exactly this precise celebration. Already declared a very short work day. Happy hours begin at ,,,soon.
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
by OnMySignal on Dec 6, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What do you have to pay for 14 year old Oban?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
When I want to drink what the commoners are having
I’ll lower myself to Bourbon. ;)
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Exactly.
Tonight is the night for a fire in the fireplace and a glass or few of scotch.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
Both of you
Must have never had the pleasure of enjoying a high quality bourbon. I’m big on scotch as well, but the old stereotypes associated with bourbon are long gone. There is many a quality bourbon on the market that sell for the same as scotches or, when you get lucky, that are as just as high a quality and sell for much less. :)
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Bourbon? Scotch?
Path me the courvoitheeyay.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'll stick with the Remi Martin
if i’m doing a cognac
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by TexasGarcia37 on Dec 6, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
I almost spit my beer all over my computer.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Touche.
Do not have a bottle of the good stuff on hand, but the beer was handy. I’ll definitely have a celebratory bottle in exactly one week’s time, though.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
WTH
Since when is beer not good enough? Most of us live in Texas. We drink beer, hunt and watch football.
El numero doce tiene la mano de dios.
by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 7, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions
There's absolutely nothing wrong with drinking beer
I drink beer -and a lot of it (hunt and watch football too). The comment Brooklyn made was a jab at me for saying that I was drinking beer after I made a fairly long winded, excited post about my love for fine bourbons (which was a 100% percent true statement) btw. Levity, is all it was my friend.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Don't act like you've never lived on an undergrad's salary.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Dec 7, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Just thought it was humorous
that lnghrn53 was drinking beer after carrying on so passionately about bourbon.
(searching for a comback)
It was not quality. In fact, it came in a large cube-like container with 29 other friends.
I enjoy good beer as well…porter and dunkelweizen are my two favorite styles. For whatever reason though, I have almost no issue with drinking cheap beer. Cheap liquor, on the other hand, is a different story.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Certain cheap beers I can indulge
When I’m in Texas I drink a lot of Pacifico or Shiner. But if you’re at my table, and you order a Budweiser or Coors, I’m going to hijack the waitstaff and buy you a better beer.
So what you're saying
Is that if we are ever drinking together, I now have a loop-hole to get free beer?
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
You'd be surprised how often
I actually do that. Ordering Coors is an affront to all that is in keeping with good taste.
Oh come on
Let’s be reasonable here. Yes, it’s low quality, American Macro-Brewed, mass produced booze, but no one who drinks it is trying to pretend it’s Chimay or Franziskaner or Fuller’s. It may be inferior, but The Banquet Beer has its place in the world.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Where I grew up, Shiner...
Is considered a luxury beer. Bud light is the standard of drinking.
El numero doce tiene la mano de dios.
by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 9, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
And yes, I do realize the absurdity of that statement. I myself love Franziskaner but my favorite beer is the Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat. Hard to find it here in the rio grande valley though.
El numero doce tiene la mano de dios.
by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 9, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Give me Stella Artois
and I will give you a warm man hug. No hip contact though. You gotta step it up to Chimay blue label for that.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
That's it?
Cheap hug.
El numero doce tiene la mano de dios.
by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 9, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
What more do you want?
What kind of guy do you take me for?
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
I didn't mean that I wanted more.
I just meant that a hug for a beer seems too easy. You should seek more.
El numero doce tiene la mano de dios.
by Can I get some Chiles with that? on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
wait, who's getting cheated here?
Me giving the man-hug or the giver of the beer?
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
after all, you said "cheap hug" nt
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
WHERE
did you find that?
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
google is a wonderful thing, my friend
“It lookth like thomeone thtole two fine hams and put ‘em down da back o’ yo’ dreth.”
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Sweet fancy Moses
you made me laugh.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
Hilarious!
I have always been a huge fan, but now Andre Johnson is my favorite non-Longhorn player in the NFL. Although I don't condone viloence.......a good ol' fashioned ass whippin is sometimes deserved and required.
The Ladies Man...
But I’m pretty much of fan of anything Tim Meadows
Bourbon has its place in the world.
No doubt about it. Woodford Reserve is quite good. The Wild Turkey Rare is good as well. There are certain occasions that call for certain drinks. Tonight,,it’s Scotch.
There is not a situation or individual that cannot be improved by the addition of chocolate.
Understood
Not knocking Scotch at all. I’m just a bourbon man, so I try to support the cause and dispel stereotypes and chance I get.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
There are certain occasions that call for certain drinks.
Exactly, now what would be an occasion for this?

When she cries, "More! More! More!" ???
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
by lnghrn53 on Dec 6, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I award you bonus internets
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
I've actually tried rebel Yell. Not bad. NT
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
tonight i'm finally busting out the green label
and a fine cigar.
by The Mack Attack on Dec 6, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
step up a notch
and try Springbank. That’s what I’m hitting tonight
Damn,
I didn’t plan ahead for this, but I do have an unopened Balvenie Doublewood 12 my neighbor gave me. That’ll have to do!
that's not much of a compromise
Poor thing — having to settle for a 12 yr. old Balvenie :) — if you live in Austin, I’ll be happy to help you celebrate — even bring my Springbank for a sampling.
Try the Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban if you get a chance.
My new favorite.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
I've given the La Santa a go
I may need a longer life to try all the Scotch recs.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Just go to a scotch bar and ask for a bunch of samples.
Don’t actually buy a glass until you’ve sampled every offering they have. Vomit as needed to prevent alcohol poisoning. Repeat at different scotch bars until you have covered every scotch known to man.
Geez, it’s not that hard.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
Likewise
Maybe we should start a whole new blog site called “Whisky Nation”
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
Just as long as we can exclude the SEC, except for Tennessee and Kentucky
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Last Christmas
My nephew gave me a bottle of 18 year old Glenfiddich. I am hoping for something similar this year.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Great news
I’d point out that i thought Tolly did a fine job. Texas didn’t have the personnel this year at the other DT spot. A special teams coach, Tolly was not. Best of luck.
Macwhorter leaving is every bit as important as Greg Davis leaving. Offenses start and end on the offensive line. I hope you enjoyed your borrowed time at Texas after the 2009 Big 12 Title Game Other Mac, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
by billfromlaketravis on Dec 6, 2010 11:51 AM CST reply actions
Do you think Tolly was all that bad as STs coach?
Obviously 2010 was a debacle, but with all the blocks and big returns over the years, and the constant mention of Texas as always have great punting, kicking, returns, and FG/punt block rushes, I think he must’ve been pretty solid. I do think he had problems with the kickoff/punt coverage at times, like that weird return earlier this year (was it against Nebraska, maybe?).
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I believe it used to be Akina
or maybe I’m just really wrong about that. I really have no idea. I’m not used to having to think this early on my day off. I woke up early just for this.
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Tolleson was STs coach from 2000-2010
At least officially. It seems to me that you could still be kind of right, though, because it’s possible that Akina or someone like that coached up the punt block team or something.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
2000-2010. Wow. I have been out of it. Thanks. :)
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I could've sworn it was Akina..
when I was a student and he left that role when he took over DC. But I can’t find proof of that anywhere.
At least I'm not alone in my delusions
What else has been a lie the past 10 years?
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Mack sorta splits up who has which
special team. Akina, I believe, was in charge of the punt block unit for a time. Somebody else was over the kickers, and the return team(s) were with another assistant.
It’s a hard call . . . you need some of the starters on STs, for qualify sake, but those units are a mix of starters, second-unit players and others who ONLY do special teams, and some of those are walk-ons.
I’d prefer 1 assistant designated for ALL special teams. Might be the way Mack goes when he restructures.
Well there were some black eyes on Special Teams this year
The black eyes you can chalk up to inexperienced players, but where weere the block punts this year?
Texas seemed very passive on special teams this year. There was no real aggressiveness on special teams other than the fake punts which were attempts to prolong drives for our miserable offense.
It’s time to get back to Virginia Tech style special teams.
by billfromlaketravis on Dec 6, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
I'm happy that GD is retiring
but equally exciting to me is McWhorter being gone. Our line has sucked something terrible lately.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
He is not retiring
He resigned, which means in all likelihood, he still wants to coach. We havent seen the last of him. He will coach again.
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Coaches that leave Texas
are dead to me. I’m looking at you GERG.
"Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!" - Texas Offensive Production on the resignation of Greg Davis
Details
Can’t you give me anything?
"Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!" - Texas Offensive Production on the resignation of Greg Davis
asking if Chizick is dead to you for leaving...
Or I’m pitching a buddy comedy, featuring Gene Hackman and Billy Murray once again as Bob…their crazy antics drive Richard Dreyfuss to the insane assylum, where Gene and Bob decide to committ themselves in order to join him and hilarious antics ensue. Maybe Gene Hackman isn’t right for this part after all.
Have a screenplay on my desk by Thursday

"Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!" - Texas Offensive Production on the resignation of Greg Davis
And I mean leave coaching at Texas
Don’t give a rat’s ass if they give him a front office job. As long as he isn’t play-calling.
"Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!" - Texas Offensive Production on the resignation of Greg Davis

"Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we're free at last!" - Texas Offensive Production on the resignation of Greg Davis
I thought retirement meant you accept the standard public employee pension plan.
Resignation, to me, says that Davis got a different deal.
Resigning vs. Retiring
Leaves open the possibility of a job with the athletic dept. as well.
If that were the case..
I would have expected a re-assignment, instead of resign. But I dont know.
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Don't feel bad for him.
He’ll be wearing out defenses with side-to-side passes again soon. Probably next season.
We will take that as a compliment. I think.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Dec 6, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
2011 Ofensive Prediction
The first play will be a bubble screen… follow by clap clap clap by Mack
I’m afraid a big part of the plays we were running were Mack’s style of playing football.., i Hope he is open for a modern spread fast football team…
To think that all of those 3rd and 10 times in which we ran a draw with our fullback for a 2 yard gain, I mean, sorry… RB Cody J. were part of GD thinking ONLY.. is just silly… I’m sure Mack was aware of the play and approved it.
by Porky23 on Dec 6, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Doubt it. I think we go to a power running scheme.
Mack has been trying to recruit the personnel and now he’ll get the coaches that can help implement. We will look like Alabama next year.
Will Muschamp and Oscar Giles are at Westfield today
to meet with Desmond Jackson.
Possibly introducing Desmond to his new position coach?
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Giles is so damn good at what he does
I mean, really, when was the last time Texas was disappointing at defensive end? I know some guys didn’t really pan out, like Pickryl (injuries) and I guess Jones (also injuries) to a certain extent. But he always seems to get a lot out of his guys, so much so that there’s usually an embarrassment of riches at end and one or two guys push inside to cover down at tackle. That’s amazing. Furthermore, he seems like he really fits well with Muschamp.
Giles is a guy I want to be in consideration for defensive coordinator when Muschamp ascends. I know it might not happen, and but if they’re looking in-house, letting him take over as DC and letting Akina retain a degree of autonomy with the DBs would be about right.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Forgot Russell Carter
He’s probably the one big head-scratching disappearance. The rest were injuries, I think. I think Carter left mostly due to the depth chart, of course.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
So who's our new scapegoat gonna be?
I want in on the action early this time.
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Garrett Gilbert
haven’t you heard?
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
GG?
Or maybe even Applewhite if our runningbacks keep getting met in the backfield.
by TheElusiveShadow on Dec 6, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
I can't see Applewhite ever being our scapegoat
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Agreed
Greg Davis has accomplished far, far more and has had much more success than Applewhite has, but Major’s a fan favorite, while Davis has been the easy scapegoat.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have absolutely no ties to your program...
…but I’ve been following your blog this season, and I am so happy for you guys right now :-) Christmas came early!
GBR
I know you probably need to wait for the new OC to be named to give a complete analysis – but,
1) do you think that the change allows us to go after a few recruits we missed, and if so, who?
2) what is the trend on verbal recruits following OC’s to new schools, and, are there any out there at Okie State, Auburn, Boise that we might be interested in?
Thanks
3) Is it possible that we'll LOSE any commits due to this announcement?
I can’t imagine…but might as well ask.
41-38 !!
Yeah, I'd hate to see them lose Flowers, Westerman, etc.
But I’m doubtful that happens.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Cedric Reed
He was waffling prior to these announcements since he went to the a&m vs neb. game. We visited J. Rasco in LA, so we might be looking to fill that spot if he does flake out on us. They are both good players and we have some good talent at DE already.
Why would Cedric Reed flake based on these announcements?
Giles isn’t going anywhere. That’s not to say he won’t flake, but it wouldn’t be because of three coaches he probably never spoke to and wouldn’t have been coaching him (he’s a DE, not a DT).
Why Gus Malzahn is a realistic possibility
Auburn is losing a ton of talent (including Cameron Newton probaby). They lose their entire OL which was essentail in the success of Cameron Newton. I think Cameron Newton leaves because the OL will graduate, and the allegations. Malzahn will wait til Cameron Newton’s announcement before taking any job offers.
However, this could be a case of the offense looking good because of players, not the coaching staff (see: blake griffin, OU)
We can and will take Malzahn from Auburn if he's our guy
The issue is whether he’s offered a decent head coaching job that he’d rather take than OC at UT.
In regards to the players, Cam Newton’s a badass along with talent around him, but Malzahn has some pretty nice numbers from his time at Tulsa I believe…
by SneezyBeltran on Dec 6, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Wow!
So y’all just fired the OC whose offense took tu to two NC games, won y’all National Championship and a BCS bowl game, orchestrated a comeback that hung 20 points on ‘Bama with a freshman QB, a coach who molded McCoy and Young into NFL caliber QB’s is now fired because of one rebuilding year. This kind of reminds me of our firing of RC Slocum. But obviously your athletic director probably has an eye on someone much better! Good luck to y’all on your coaching search!
Why?
I don’t have any problem with fans of other schools posting so long as they aren’t obnoxious. This guy states a position which is similar to many TV commentators and even some UT fans that GD has a good-looking resume. He compares the decision to one his own school made (firing RC Slocum, probably to some regrets), and wishes us good luck and even suggests the AD probably has his sights on someone even better. YUMC provides insight into how the outside world will view all this, viz., that UT has arrogant fans with a sense of entitlement who want to fire half the coaching staff after one bad season. What the outside world doesn’t understand is that you have to watch ever play of every game and see GD call the same plays even though they don’t work and fail to adapt to understand our frustration.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
What he said is not overly problematic
It’s the tone that he chose to utilize. Had the comment been, “From someone on the outside looking in, I don’t understand this move. You just fired the coach who (cite resume). That reminds me of Slocum, and that ended terribly for us. Would someone help me out and explain this to me?” no one would have had any issue with the post. In contrast this post is riddled with sarcasm (“Wow you did X”), condescending statements (OBVIOUSLY, your AD…).
This may have not been the tone the writer intended, but I firmly believe that when you’re commenting on another fan’s site (this includes Longhorns on other sites as well) it is incredibly important to hedge statements and show deference to the community. Tone of voice writing is important, and the comment doesn’t have to have a very high level of ridicule in order to set off a community. This one obviously had enough, and the postes reacted accordingly.
From what I’ve read, this particular poster has a history of both legitimate analysis and troll-ish statements. However, when there is any history of trolling, you tend to lose the benefit of the doubt on your subsequent posts.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Was that really necessary?
I mean, it’s almost lunch time and all.
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I'll save you the recent images of Courtney Love, then.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
To outsiders: the GD issue isn't new, based on one season
Please understand that this isn’t sudden or spoiled. We have put up with our coaches squandering talent for years (including good ones like last year, when we barely beat Nebraska). Most Texas fans have been wanting to replace GD since 2003, but he has kept his position this long because he is a friend/colleague of Mack Brown. And he got a break when VY & McCoy in their respective Jr-Sr years boosted the W-L record and covered up the weak gamebook and poor playcalling. But that, as well as the o-line coaching, got exposed again this year. We do wish all of our ex-coaches good luck.
And hence the foolishness of much of our fan base
Using this as an example:
squandering talent for years (including good ones like last year, when we barely beat Nebraska)
You know, a game which we won to get to 13-0 despite coming up against a defensive player who might have played as well as any defensive player as ever played an individual game.
But, hey, since we “barely” won, we were squandering talent.
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Sounds like a paraphrase from that doofus Ubben on ESPN.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/34934/now-is-the-time-for-greg-davis-departure
“Even 2009 with senior Colt McCoy at quarterback saw plenty of struggles. Against two of the best defenses Texas faced all season, Nebraska and Oklahoma, the Longhorns mustered just 13 and 16 points, respectively.”
I can’t stand that jag-off. ESPN needs an upgrade to, say, a 2nd-grader with crayons for their Big 12 blogger.
41-38 !!
are those suddenly respectable performances?
Man there is a ton of revisionist GD defending going on. What about Wyoming? Tech? Colorado? OSU? There was pressure to return to a balanced attack LAST season, and GD abandoned it just like he did this year, but Colt-Ship and the D ware a strong enough crutch that we went undefeated regardless. 2008 wasn’t a gem until GD realized he couldn’t get the ball to outside receivers, so he moved Shipley in the slot and let him and Colt play backyard ball (with some help from Cosby, who, with Shipley, represent the last of the well-coached receivers), and we would have gone undefeated if GD had actually properly gameplanned against an outmatched Tech team, but instead he farted around as usual, and let the inevitable momentum Tech gained from shutting down a one dimensional offense turn the game.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
We did struggle and barely win it
in many ways. Not only the clock management, but McCoy was sacked nine times. We rushed for only 18 yards (0.5 per attempt).
Yes, Suh is incredible, but GD’s playcalling never adjusted for Nebraska’s defense, which was stuffing us in the backfield almost all night. That said, I’ll admit the passing game was troubled too (though less), with dropped balls, and McCoy’s accuracy was slightly off, perhaps due to a mild concussion from all the sacks (hence the cloudiness about the clock).
Ah, you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
It makes perfect sense, now that you’re also diagnosing possible concussions from the comfort of your seat.
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It makes sense
He was sacked hard 9 times. His accuracy was not his usual; he threw 3 interceptions; and on the last play, he thought the clock had several seconds more than it did. But it would be foolish of him or MB to bench him for slight mental cloudiness then. Being a softie or injured hurts NFL draft stock.
You mean that bad pass he threw to Kirkendoll ...
… down the left sideline that would have sealed the game had Kirk not dropped it?
McCoy did his best, given the situation
and I don’t blame him for the game… have defended him against haters on other chat boards. He was compromised by a couple of dropped passes (as I mentioned above), sacks/hurries, and lack of TE & run game. The o-line and GD lost the Heisman for him that night, unfortunately, because the public/voters tends to be near-sighted in their view of the season.
No.
The Suh-monster and that dropped pass by Kirk lost him the Heisman that night. Had Kirk hung on to that laser & coasted down the sideline to seal the game, that’s the #1 highlight you would have seen on SportsCenter all night long and that’s what voters would have remembered. As it was, voters remembered the Suh-beast, the one-second debacle (that overshadowed yet another game-winning drive by Colt), and a thin one-point win over a half-team.
Muschamp squandered talent last year as well
After all, we allowed 39 to A&M.
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yeah, there's been some games like that
But defense kept us in the Nebraska game, limiting them to 106 yards and intercepting them 3 times. Not that Zac Lee is the greatest QB, though
I missed this gem
And he got a break when VY & McCoy in their respective Jr-Sr years boosted the W-L record and covered up the weak gamebook and poor playcalling.
I can’t believe that the OC/QB Coach was so lucky to catch such an unforeseeable break as having the players he directly coached perform so well and save his lucky ass.
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I've been shaking my skull about that for a while
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
It's called scrambling
and its been the only tangible running game we’ve had for years, and bailed GD out of a lot of broken plays. Where the hell is all this GD love coming from? Sentimental group we’ve got around here. The guy is a good QB coach, and was a decent playcaller once upon a time, but he didn’t teach VY to have godly running ability, and the coaches knew Colt could hit a mosquito from 30 yards out before he walked on campus and built a crappy offense around it. They got lucky that Vince and Colt also brought some crazy intangibles to the team, because you can’t coach that, and the offensive coaches don’t have it. When you have the players to bail you out, you can hide behind their strengths (GD was the best at this), and when you don’t have players to bail you out, you have inexplicably horrible seasons like this last one, which gets your ass fired less than two weeks after the season is over.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Dec 6, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
If by "crappy offense" you mean one of the top offenses in the nation, then yes, they did
GD directly coached VY and McCoy into the players they became. They did not “bail him out.” They responded to the coaching. The scheme was certainly much more successful when VY had the latitude to run loose, but keep in mind, most of his success on the ground was designed, not scrambling.
This year they just had a QB who doesn’t have “it” like VY and Colt did. If a player doesn’t have “it,” then the scheme fails. But how is that different from any other scheme?
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Most "schemes"
and it is generous to call what GD deployed the last few years a “scheme”, don’t completely fall apart if their QB doesn’t have an inordinate amount of intangibles. Most offenses should have an adequate running game to lean on if they are breaking in a new quarterback. Most offenses have a tangible system in place so the players and coaches aren’t wandering in the dark if things aren’t working. Most offenses don’t feed players’ insecurities by boxing them in comically conservative gameplans. Most offenses don’t need a GOAT behind center to adequately function.
Trying to minimize the improvisational talents and personal leadership of our last two quarterbacks is really grasping at straws. I feel like people haven’t been watching this offense for the last two years. GD is gone because this year he finally got what was coming to him this year, but anybody who knows what a proper offense looks like has been wanting this to happen for years now, not just the last 4 months
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Dec 7, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Most offenses should have an adequate running game to lean on if they are breaking in a new quarterback. Most offenses have a tangible system in place so the players and coaches aren’t wandering in the dark if things aren’t working. Most offenses don’t feed players’ insecurities by boxing them in comically conservative gameplans. Most offenses don’t need a GOAT behind center to adequately function.
Most offenses don’t produce six consecutive years of really good QB play, including three Heisman runners-up seasons in that span.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not minimizing anything
But you are certainly overstating the impact. There was improvisation, sure, but that’s true of any offense. Go ahead and pretend that most offenses that have terrific success don’t result from a large degree of improvisation after the snap, but the fact is that they do. And by all means, continue to ignore that most of VY’s success as a runner was on designed plays.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
So you are of the opinion that GD was unjustly fired?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
No, I'm not
I think it was time to move forward, because thing had become stale. I just don’t think it’s anywhere close to accurate to say Davis was the worst playcaller (or OC) in FBS, which I do believe you’ve specifically said.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
So your belief that he should have been removed
was not performance based, merely that he’d been around too long?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Hi answer was not inconsistent with your question
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Can we organize a rally to restore sanity?
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I have to take objection to the idea that I'm out of line
I’ll concede that the “worst in FBS” moniker may be overstepping it (although I rarely watch other teams, even bad ones, and think “thank god we have GD”), but I feel like everybody has forgotten the last few years, GD is suddenly a victim of circumstance, and I’m the only one who has suffered through horrible gameplans and inexplicable playcalls.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Dec 7, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No
I agree with pretty much everything you’re saying. But this is an argument nobody is going to win.
I fall on the side of believing the eye-ball test firmly destroys any esteem Davis ever might have acquired (and as something of an aesthete, I can’t think of an offense that was ever worse on the eyes), while the other side is concerned mostly with numbers/production.
This all comes down to what one wants. I’ve said on numerous occasions I’d rather be 10-2 every year with an offense that is kick-ass fun to watch for all 12 games than be 12-0 with a nervous, conservative, risk-minimizing, boring-as-hell offensive scheme.
And through that lens (of my particular sensibility), I don’t think it is hyperbolic of me to place Greg Davis in the god-awful-nightmare category.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 7, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
To all GD hyperbole bashers like Circa ...
It’s pretty lame to say that Greg Davis “sucked” when he designed the highest scoring offense (39.0 ppg average) among BCS conference teams for a decade (2000-2009). It was also great to watch when humming well. At least give the man some credit. You can get all the athletes (VY) and pinpoint passers (Colt & Simms) you want but someone has got to design the offense & mesh those talents together for it to succeed. VY runnin’ around “doin’ his thing” would have never worked had GD not put together a 50.2 ppg offense that year. GD got fired yesterday because they had a bad year and Mack AND the fans all want a change of scheme and attitude. You can also spread blame to a ‘perfect storm’ of a year in 2010 due to bad execution of a porous offensive line, receivers who can’t catch, poor offensive line coaching, a piss-poor punt return unit, and a decidedly rare anomaly of a Texas defense that was inconsistent and inopportunistic. There were plenty of things that went wrong this year and to blame GD for all of them is just ignorant and inaccurate.
by robthecob on Dec 7, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Groovy!
And maybe it would say “Bubble Screen” on the back?
Hmmm
they do have more varieties since last I checked. I suppose these will become collector’s items.
Just saying
I could also get stabbed in the chest and aspirate on my own blood. Although there is many things that killed me, from bleeding out, choking on my own blood, foreign object inserted in my body, I’m pretty sure of the one thing that ended it all.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Wow, talk about hyperbole!
But, in that scenario, you don’t get to see Texas’ back-to-back national championships in 2012 & 2013. That’s a shame!
The lengths to which a small segment of reality-challenged GD-bashers go to deny him any credit for any accomplishments, and to find a way to blame him for all ills real and imagined, astonishes me.
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm right there with you
Although I admit I probably am more caustic in how I respond.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
I'm neither denying him his accomplishments
nor blaming him for issues that weren’t his fault. What lengths am I going to, exactly? Have I been blind all this time? Was his move towards bottlenecking our offense around a short passing game at the expense of everything else a stroke of genius? Have I been missing the strategical advantages of the perpetual 2 yard runs? Am I mistaking his 4 different formations for a lack of variety when it is really an offense running at max efficiency? Why the hell was he fired? Answer me that, please, because if it was just “things got stale”, then everything I know about football is a lie.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Oh come on
You know perfectly well that Greg Davis sneaks into your house and sprinkles syphilis on your cornflakes.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
by LonghornEm on Dec 7, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He probably buys it in bulk at Sam's Club
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pure single barrell, triple-distilled awesome
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
It is possible GD became complacent and lazy...
and the successes of the past were a combination of talent, scheme, execution and drive which highly paid and successful coaches and athletes alike lose.
So long as you realize
that there are those of us who, in all sincerity, feel exactly the same way about those who defend Davis’ career.
I don’t mean that at all to be antagonistic. I genuinely cannot see your point of view on this matter, and I am just as astonished,
Hey you guys
You were supposed to have this argument in my fanpost. This is exactly what I was looking for. I swear! Where’s my damn scotch?
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
fanposts are not treated
with the same deference as contributor posts
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Dec 8, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
I know, I was just trying to be narcissistic and funny at the same time.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
you were successful.
I’m not saying the unequal treatment is justified. Just saying it’s a fact. We are encouraged not to write fanposts that may overlap with the subject matter of contributor posts, but it seems acceptable for contributors to write posts covering topics that have been extensively addressed in other threads. Frankly, I have been reluctant to write fanposts recently because almost any relevant subject has been discussed to a significant degree in a thread somewhere. I am sure that some, if not many BONers are grateful for my relative silence.
"I'm not playing favorites. All my favorites have graduated." - A. Lemons
by Paleface Horn on Dec 9, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
Agree
I’ve tried to only fanpost when I felt like I really had something unique to offer. With fanposts, though, the self-judgement involved in deciding whether what you are posting is worthy falls under the same human-nature tendency that underlies everyone’s belief that they are a good driver.
I don't want NO PART of yo' tired ass country club, YA FREAK BITCH!
Oh, look, a rec battle!
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Boosted
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
by Magnificent Bastard on Dec 6, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions
I was just at DKR picking up bball tickets
and a couple of guys were stringing up black and silver balloons over one of the North End Zone entrances.
Meanwhile, in other news today...
…turn out the lights, the party’s over.
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He's throwing Hank Hill's football in another place now
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing like Howard and Dandy Don mixing it up on Monday nights
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Hey, that Craig James guy seems like a pretty nice fellow
And they had a heck of a guy as their hoops coach in the 80s.
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The photo popped up on my screen...
…in such a way that I saw only the upper half, and I thought there was a Whitman reference coming…
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had the exact same reaction
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by Texastriplecrown on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Geez! Go away
I was very nearly there for that one.
Get ready for sideways passes
if you hire Harsin. Everyone who runs the spread runs some WR screens. You will see horizontal passing if you bring in Harsin or Malzahn. If you only want vertical passing, go get the guy from Stanford.
There's a place for WR screens.
They can work, and work well…if you know what you’re doing and don’t use them as your default passing play.
I've never seen anyone run a WR screen as bad as we do.
I think it’s cause our receivers don’t block.
It's not as much
how much he called them. It was about WHEN he called them. It was so obvious that it hurt.
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Free at last free at last thank god all mighty
by Northwest Horn on Dec 6, 2010 2:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What does that way about your staff...
when you got guys on the verge of retirement? Sorry and you might have a different take on it but my take is you got coaches who’ve lost the drive. Just like in the corporate world.
MM retired a couple of years ago, he just happened to announce it today.
Being near retirement doesn't indicate a loss of drive
At least that’s never been my experience with people who have been in the last few months or years. I’ve seen lame ducks, but they’ve typically been younger people who are just coasting once they know they’re moving to another position.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions

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by burrito on Dec 6, 2010 2:36 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I just can't shake this sick feeling
I admit that I’ve been one of the biggest Davis detractors, and I’ve always been at the front of the line calling for his head. I fully expected to be celebrating when he finally stepped down. Had it been a few years ago, I probably would have. The way this has gone down though, bothers me so much. Yes, Davis had a lot of shortcomings, and yes, it was time for a change, but I wouldn’t wish this experience on anybody. The views of Longhorn nation have become somewhat of a mob mentality. Davis has been the subject of ridicule…not criticism which is warranted…but degrading ridicule. He bled Burnt Orange for years, gave his heart and soul to this program, and what does he get in return? Websites devoted to him losing his job, cartoons that depict him as a bafoon, angry rants with language directed towards him that would make a sailor blush, and having to come out and stop people from dancing in the streets every time his status as the offensive coordinator with UT comes up.
I’m not saying I still want Davis to be our offensive coordinator. I think he should have been gone a LONG time ago. However, I just wish people would take a step back and realize that at the end of the day, we’re talking about a man’s job and his livelihood. I think we get so caught up in our beliefs that the Longhorns belong to us that we forget that real people are involved in all of this, and we spew hate not realizing how powerful our actions and words can be.
I would not wish this experience on anyone, and while I should be celebrating the future of the Longhorn football program, I just can’t shake this feeling that all the hate spewed in Davis’s direction is wrong on so many levels. I, for one, thank Coach Davis for his dedication to the program and hope that he is given a position somewhere in the athletic department. I hope that this fan base will eventually take a look back on all of this and realize how over the top some of the hate has been.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
by lnghrn53 on Dec 6, 2010 2:49 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
As someone who's been more or less a de facto Davis defender on here...
…I’ve always wondered what this inevitable thread would look like. For the most part, it’s a much tamer and mature thread than I envisioned. Most posters on here, like you, lnghrn53, are doing a very good job at separating what they believe will be a positive move for the football program from expressions of ill will towards Davis the man. Even those who I’ve seen as his harshest detractors are recognizing that he deserves our appreciation for his service over the years and are wishing him an appropriate level of goodwill as he goes down whatever path life has in store for him.
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On the other hand, I'm sure shaggybevo's a wreck
And it certainly wasn’t pretty over on fantake.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
I never go to those sites
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And that's exactly why
I fell in love with this site. I’ve followed this site for about two years before I finally joined this past July. I always avoided posting anywhere on the internet because it disgusts me how people will act when they have the cloud of anonymity at their disposal. However, the BON community always seemed to be rational, intelligent, and reasonable -qualities usually lacking on the internet, so I decided to sign up, and I’m very glad I did.
I agree with you, Hopkins, that this thread is much more mature than I originally anticipated, which is encouraging. I only hope that it stays that way. I worry though, based on some of the recent fan posts and and increase in irrational comments, that the community on this site may be heading down the road of shaggy bevo and other typical fansites. I certainly hope I am not proven right and that this community stays as phenomenal as I’ve known over the last two years.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
by lnghrn53 on Dec 6, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Longhorn fans, be careful what you wish for.
GDavis is first class. He has been one of the most effective OCs in the NCAA from 2000-2009 (#1 in ppg (39.0) among BCS conference schools). 2010 was due way more to the players not executing that it ever was due to the offensive coordinator. I only hope that we don’t take it down a notch.
Are you calling my celebration thread immature?
I doubt anyone wishes Davis or his family ill will. He has worked or Texas for many years and everyone appreciates the long hours and dedication to his profession. It was just time to move on.
At some point, it will be time for Brown to turn over the reigns. It happens to everyone.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
Of course not
The celebration seems to be appropriately limited to celebrating the departure of a coach viewed as ineffective. There’s nothing wrong with that.
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I was kidding...
BDR has been updated with the appropriate strikethrus.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
I agree, there's too many violins being played here
I don’t think anybody is happy about a human being losing his (substantial) income, the celebration is (and should be limited to) the departure of lazy, ineffective gameplanning and inane playcalling. This has been years coming, not the reactionary effect of a horrible season where an innocent bystander has been turned into a scapegoat.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
by circa1015 on Dec 6, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this thread is a bit anticlimactic
to me as well, but I think it has something to do with two abysmal months of football which have killed this community’s collective spirit, and then 3 or 4 false alarms regarding Davis’ departure throughout the past week.
If Davis had been fired the day after the UCLA game, I think this thread, here on BON would look a lot different.
BTW, it looks damn cold in Liverpool today
Ah, the advantages of a home office.
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Agree but only to a point
After watching the places that he was putting his players in with his play calling I started finding myself generally angry with him. Seeing colt be flung around like a rag doll, having rbs in the worst positions to just get smashed, the bubble screen while ineffective just having someone exposed like that.
These last two seasons had me much more worded about the players than the coaching and while I feel for the man I felt more for Kirk, colt, fozzy, Trey, etc. They deserved better.
by abcdmetrius on Dec 6, 2010 5:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Heh, Nebraska
Stuck in the Holiday Bowl playing a team they demolished in September.
There is a God.
At least they get to spend some time in San Diego. Everyone should be that unlucky. :-)
But then Pelini doesn’t strike me as someone who has a lot of fun. I bet his team gets to practice and watch film at the hotel and that’s about all.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
San Diego
Is one of the only California cities I’ve ever been able to stomach. Granted, I’ve never been anywhere in Norther Cali, but most of the other SoCal cities just irk me on so many levels. The Huskers could have a worse bowl stop
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Speaking of bowls...
…it dawned on me today that there are now six bowl games in Texas. There are three in DFW. Seriously: does DFW need three bowl games (not to mention the D-1AA Championship Game)?
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I don't know, how nice are its area courthouses?
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
I know!
We’re all pretty excited, although some people were hoping for Champs Sports for an excuse to go to Orlando over break. My boyfriend is a non-Texan and he asked me if I’d be able to go myself since it’s in Texas and I’d be so close. My parents live in Waco. The Sun Bowl is in El Paso, of course. I had to explain to him how that would be driving halfway to LA.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
So it'd be easier for me to attend is what you're sayin'
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it would be equally easy for either of us to attend
geographically speaking.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
I think I'd get there first
It’s at least straight freeway for me.
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Nope, you win
The Google says 10 hours for you; 12 for me.
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I bet anywhere south of the Ohio River sounds good to you, doesn't it Em?
Aren’t you getting hammered with snow today?
41-38 !!
Don't get me started
You’re in Indy, right? It’s amazing the climate difference between South Bend and Indy. My best friend lives in Lafayette and they hardly ever get what we get. Love that lake effect.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
I thought I-10 went from SA to El Paso?
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
Will you be in SA or Waco?
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Waco
but I know I-35 goes straight from Waco to SA.
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
just looked
you’re right, I wouldn’t even be on I-10 until south of Odessa.
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Spectacular!
Hard to say which is better, though: Tarrant or Dallas. And if you want to get adjacent counties, Denton, Ellis, WIse and Parker aren’t bad either.
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You're welcome.
Why do they all look like either castles or French government buildings, incidentally?
If that is a veiled criticism about me, I won't hear it and I won't respond to it.
Well, I could expand upon the effects of increased availability of funding for courthouse construction in the late 1800s...
…but then I’d be make too much of my professional side, and I’d never want to do that.
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I don't think it has anything to do with "need"
When you have the spectacle that is Jerry World and a stadium with as much history as the Cotton Bowl, you have a little bit of bargaining power. The rich get richer, as they say.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Definitely head north next time you're out there
I like San Diego a bit, and La Jolla and Santa Barbara quite a lot, but the best parts start around the southern end of Big Sur.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He doesn't seem like fun
does he? I wonder if he can remember the last time he laughed? Wait,,,why in Sweet Mother of Wickeds name am I talking about puhlini on this Happiest of Happy Days? Maybe they will get to go to the Lego place.
On my signal,,,Unleash Hell,,,and Fire Greg Davis,,please?
The one that I don't get is the defensive line coach.
We have had so much success there that one bad year should not lead to a resignation/retirement. Unless this has more to do with muschamp wanting his person there.
With all of MacW’s success, I think the line coach change is big for our hoped for rushing attack. It will be interesting to see what we do with Major. QB coach?
Tolle was quite....
…..close to retirement, even w/o 5-7. If Oscar Giles assumes duties for the entire DL, rather than just DE, that allows us to hire a LB position coach. A much more typical assignment of duties. Since Oscar is making less than $160k, hopefully we can give him a substantial raise.
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Giles absolutely deserves it
See my other post gushing about him in this thread.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
im happy
You know why because at the end of the day this coaching staff need to get younger cause the game has out grown most of them
by KingMack on Dec 6, 2010 3:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
A glorious hue cast upon this day
Liverpool has jumped to a quick 3-0 lead (Liverpool FC has suffered a near-identical season to Texas football), which I view as a good sign.
If peace is declared throughout the Middle East tomorrow, and it is then published that a promising new method of fusion shall end the World’s energy crisis, I shall be even more steadfast in my belief that this should have been done years ago.
As happy as i am right now
We must never forget what GD did for this program. He is a classy man, and i wish him and his family nothing but the best as they go forward. Davis had good intentions and he always tried, but his schemes were getting old and it lead to a lot of frustration with the fans (Myself included, hence the username). Nevertheless…..Good luck Greg you were a horn through and through
41-38
With that said
i have a mixed outlook on 2011. i think the staff changes will be a plus, but as far as the performance of the team next year i am skeptical. I dont think GG has it in him to be a elite qb (granted the OL and recievers were awful this year) but how much he improves will be a huge factor on the offense just as how much Malcom brown can produce in his first year will be an equally large factor. The receiving core will be interesting to watch with Mike Davis going into yr 2 and Jaxon Shipley coming in. On the defensive side what we need is a rush defense to prevent what Cyrus Gray did to us. As far as other teams go i think that OU will be good again with landry jones coming back. if Blackmon comes back, OSU could win the confrence (if they can make up for Hunter), and TAMU should be excellent with Tannehill and Gray returning. i think we could be in for another rough year and i dont see us beating TAMU in college station or OSU in stillwater. We may finish 3rd or 4th in the conference……….but we could do better……or worse
41-38
tamu game and Mike Davis
Did anyone else notice the lack of first half playing time? The guy in front of me said that he wasn’t going to class and was in the dog house. Anybody know if that is true? He is too talented to be messing up with his classes and yanked off the field.
Yes Jill
There is a Santa Claus.
LOL
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
Tom Landry
Josh McDaniels, anyone?
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Pipe dream, but I wouldn't hate it
He had reasonable success with the Patriots, and Muschamp is rumored to want to move to a pro system so it would fit. I would caution, though. History is against him. We know that coaches don’t usually make the transition from Pro success to College success and vice versa.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
I think Greg Robinson did okay
He was no Will Muschamp, but neither was Bill Brasky.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I know that there are those that have done well
It just seems that the norm seems to be lack of success and success the exception. If anybody has the actual numbers I would love to be corrected. That’s just what my general overview tells me.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
I think it's mostly true of college coaches who jump up to NFL HC positions
I haven’t noticed the same problem with coordinators. Weis went from coordinator in the NFL to HC in college, which obviously didn’t work for him. But we’re talking about a pretty solid (if unsavory) OC who rose to HC in the NFL, and would be moving to a coordinator job at the college level. I think that’s fairly safe. The biggest problem happens with head coaches, because the dynamics of the job are very different between the college and NFL roles. College coaches have to worry about recruiting, compliance, academics, eligibility and a revolving door of talent (3-5yrs. for most) and a lot of other things that just aren’t there in the NFL. NFL coaches have to worry about a more professional environment, contracts, talent evaluation, and longer-term personnel matters, including aging. As a coordinator, McDaniels wouldn’t really have to make that big of a transition. He’d have to learn the recruiting trail a little, and of course evaluate a younger stock, but I doubt they’d spend a lot of time on it. He’d be gone in a year or three anyway.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Fair point
But, realistically do you really think we could get him to drop to an OC at the college level after he’s been a HC in the NFL? I’m afraid the ego couldn’t handle it.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
Nope, I don't think he's a realistic candidate
I just threw him out there because of timing. I don’t think there are connections, and Mack might not want such hubris and scandalous associations on his staff.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
I love the irony of this statement
Because there are SO many people who are clamoring for us to go after Leach. What you just said about McDaniels is the exact same argument for why we would not want Leach and why he is not a viable candidate.
"It's all bullshit, and it's bad for 'ya." -George Carlin
I don't get it either
I wouldn’t touch Mike Leach with a 91/2 foot pole!
It's fun to do bad things. -Latarian Milton
by TexasGarcia37 on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
What if it was 10 foot?
Can you imagine Mack trying to explain why it isn’t OK to lock a smartass player in the electircal closet?
Bill Brasky
was 10 feet tall.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
To Bill Brasky!
Did I ever tell you guys about the time Bill and I got sent on a business trip to Canada? Turns out it’s hard to tell their women from their grizzlies, but Bill didn’t care.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That actually crossed my mind before he was fired
Would be nice. Do we have pro-style personnel? We need at least one competent TE….and a competent QB wouldnt hurt either.
I have always been a huge fan, but now Andre Johnson is my favorite non-Longhorn player in the NFL. Although I don't condone viloence.......a good ol' fashioned ass whippin is sometimes deserved and required.
Apparently ou's OC is off to greener pastures (literally) as well
offseason hires are going to have a huge impact on RRR this year, although they are probably going to debate whether they want to go with outside hire or just promote Heupel, so who knows if we’re going to be in an arms race with them at the moment.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
It'll be interesting to see if Heupel does ascend, and even more interesting if Major were to as well
If so, there may be a bit of a rivalry between him and Major as former QBs of their respective programs who paid their dues and ultimately took the reins as OCs.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
Major Applewhite
Hey wants to coach at Texas let’s bring someone in that major can really learn from
by KingMack on Dec 6, 2010 9:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Let's brush up on our grammar while we're at it.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Dec 6, 2010 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Mmmmm indeed.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Dec 7, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Too many frickin' liquor snobs on thi sboard
Give me my Shiner and I’m almost always happy.
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by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Liquor is like Dante's Divine Comedy
There are 9 celestial spheres of heaven. You can rank them how you like.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Unlike Brooklyn, where entire neighborhoods are destroyed for an NBA team!
Viva eminent domain for the purposes of further enriching the rich!
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Meh
The Atlantic Yards lost its soul years ago when Target moved in.
But seriously, were it just an arena, I would have been all for it. Brooklyn could use a new Ebbets Field. But the arena is just the showpiece of an entire disgusting revitalizing project that will consume the area. Not exactly Robert Moses bad, but pretty bad.
Did you ever read Caro's biography of Moses?
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The Power Broker?
Yeah. I considered it required reading my first year in the City. Amazing the impact he had on the region. I regularly run into people for whom Moses is still a sore spot.
For a happier book than The Power Broker
find an essay called “Here is New York,” by E.B. White. Another of a number of New York-centric books I stereotypically bought practically the very day I moved to Manhattan. I still read that thing like twice a year.
Thank you for the good times GD
Im super excited to find out who the next OC will be
I have always been a huge fan, but now Andre Johnson is my favorite non-Longhorn player in the NFL. Although I don't condone viloence.......a good ol' fashioned ass whippin is sometimes deserved and required.
Tray Allen is back...
the youngsters got some great experience this year and we have a hell of a recruiting haul at Oline this year…o ya and did you miss that MM is retiring….it can only go up from here.
Not that I'm disrespecting Britt Mitchell for his efforts, but...
…I’m kind of excited to see Texas field an offensive line that doesn’t include a converted tight end waving the checkered flag. And I’m really hopeful that whoever comes in as OC and OL coach(es) will help Allen have a redeeming, draft-stock-exploding season like Orakpo had in Will’s first year as DC.
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by burntorangehorn on Dec 7, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
104.9 The Horn's post game wrap-up...
was all over that Tackle who gets beat off the ball every play and tipped the defense with his stance whether it was a run or pass play…
Mitchell was definitely out of his element on the end, while I appreciate his effort I will be very glad they don’t just throw him in there again because of his “experience”.
the O line next year will be better with
Allen, Walters, Ashcraft, Hopkins, and Flowers* at Guard
Kelley, Poehlmann, Westerman*, Greenlea* at Tackle (imagine if we had Hegarty too)
and Snow, Porter, Espinosa at Center
i dont know who will read this
but i’m here in denver and coach josh mcdaniels just got fired as the head coach…. you kno0w the one who coached tom brady and led their under coach b. to back to back championships…could you imagine the recruiting
The same guy that shipped Peyton Hillis, Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall out of town....
while using a 1st round pick on Tebow. I’m not sold on his ability to evaluate talent or just make good personnel decisions in general.
BB is and always has been the one making personnel decisions in NE.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
i dont know who will read this
b/c you obviously don’t read other people’s posts
Josh McDaniels, anyone?
by burntorangehorn on Dec 6, 2010 8:29 PM CST reply actions
by vy til i die on Dec 7, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
Greg Davis
The one criticism of GD that I do not hear is that he just became complacent and lazy. It happens all the time, my first memory of this was when the Mets signed George Foster for $51 million in the 80’s – biggest salary ever and then George fades into mediocrity. For some, success and & breeds compacency and laziness.
IMHO…the likely culprit here.
So . . .
. . . I’m wondering if we’ve reached the end of BON, much like that commercial of a few years back where someone finally reaches the end of the internet.
No new posts in over 30 hours. Maybe the greyhound caught the bunny and doesn’t know what to do next.
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You know, Greg Davis had pieces of flair he made his quarterbacks wear.
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Maybe Coach Mack had given the 'new posts' responsibility to Greg Davis.
Better hire somebody quick!
Earlier today
I thought of making some comment along the lines of not believing that a blog whose masthead lists 17 authors can remain silent for nearly two days after the largest breaking news in the history of the program this blog follows since this blog’s inception… but I didn’t want to sound like a bitch.
Like I said, that doggone bunny's been caught
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