Chet Moss' Army Combine Numbers
As an addendum to discussions about Moss' overall athleticism and whether or not he is a good take in this class, here are his numbers from the Army combine:
40-yard dash -- 4.90 seconds
This number isn't impressive on the surface, as it would make him incredibly slow for an FBS linebacker, but that's where the context comes into play. The track at the Alamodome is horrendously slow -- only one play at the whole event ran a sub-4.6. Moss actually finished as the 46th fastest player in the 40 at the entire event. Remember, this is a national event as well.
Shuttle -- 4.41 seconds
Once again, Moss compares favorably for his position and weight, as only two players in the 20 above him weigh over 200 pounds and most of the players grouped around him are skill position players -- cornerbacks, running backs and wide receivers. As a point of comparison, former Iowa running back Shonn Greene, who ran a 4.65 40 at the NFL combine, ran a 4.40 shuttle.
Vertical leap -- 31 inches
Only eight players at the event weighed more than Moss and had a higher vertical leap. With the exception of a few quarterbacks and defensive ends, most of the players grouped around Moss in terms of vertical leap are athletes, running backs, or defensive backs.
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There was one player at the whole even who ran a sub-4.6. The track is really, really slow.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 20, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
Do you know anything about the timing/event?
When it comes to a 40, there are any number of factors that could be responsible for drastic errors – particularly if the timers and organizers are inexperienced. BOH is more knowledgeable about this than I am, but I have timed a few dozen races in my day and it’s not as easy as it looks.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Feb 20, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
All I know is that it’s a slow track — everyone runs a slow time there every year.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 20, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Very good point
If it is not electronically timed, regardless of the track, there is a great chance for error.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Last year we got three top OLBs
Who all have incredible speed. Moss is probably a true Middle Linebacker so his speed is probably not the most important aspect of his talent set. He was probably picked more for his run stuffing ability and nose for the ball. Seriously, lets hope that he is better than “Derry” good.
His early offer in light of the limited numbers is a bit of a head scratcher since he was such a huge Texas lean. But I just trust the coaches that they are really sure about the guys at the first junior days that they offered and they think he is Texas good.
for whatever it's worth
—pedestrian 40 times don’t mean much to me. running against the watch is very different than running against live competition. there was certain ou linebacker a few years ago who didn’t have impressive time numbers, but made a lot of plays.
—this is a junior day offer; not a down-to-the-wire-we’ve-got-to-fill-a-slot offer
—if muschamp sees potential, that’s enough for me.
truth
and you kind of have to look at his 40 time relative to the whole group, if the Alamo track really is so slow. also, some guys seem way faster in pads, but that’s usually something that applies to RBs/WRs
by MaizeNBurntOrange on Feb 21, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
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