Onto the Radar: OKC's Josh Turner Plans Texas Visit
New Mexican behemoth offensive linemen Matthew Hegarty isn't the only out-of-state and national prospect who may not be able to make it down to Austin for the second Junior Day because of basketball commitments -- Oklahoma City cornerback Josh Turner would like to head down I-35 to the Texas campus on Saturday. For Turner to make the trip ($), his high school basketball team will have to win games on Thursday and Friday to avoid playing on Saturday, otherwise Turner will have to put off his visit.
Like the great majority of future collegiate cornerbacks, Turner plays both ways for Oklahoma City Millwood, starring as a receiver and cornerback. His speed is apparent in all three phases of the game, but what stands out about Turner with the ball in his hands is that he has exceptional balance and willingness to take hits and pick up tough yardage. His balance is reminiscent of current Texas cornerback Curtis Brown, who has renowned in high school for being able to keep his feet in extreme circumstances, while his toughness recalls another current Longhorn, DJ Monroe.
Turner's frame is much closer to Brown than it is to Monroe, as both Turner and Brown are about six feet tall and possess lanky builds, though Turner may have even smaller wrists, elbows, and knees -- his Rivals page lists him at 185 pounds, but there's no way that Turner goes any more than 160 at the most and probably won't be able to add a great deal of weight to that frame in college.
However, his aforementioned toughness with the ball extends to the defensive side of the ball, where Turner shows enough to allay any concerns about his tackling ability. Turner doesn't have the frame of a kid like Avery Walls, but he shows an ability to use good tackling form to impart force on ballcarriers, using his momentum and knee bend to wrap up opponents and drive them to the ground -- a young Curtis Brown he is not. Basically, Turner probably won't have to add much mass to tackle well in college because he understands how to use the mass he already possesses.
The physicailty is a nice benefit for a cornerback, but it's speed, explosiveness and fluid hips that make a top-notch player at the position and Turner appears to have those qualities on film. On offense, his explosiveness makes him a big-play threat whenever he has the ball in his hands and on defense it does and will allow him to run with eite receivers on deep routes. Turner's film doesn't show him flipping his hips a great deal, but he does look fluid when he has to and shows elite-level recovery and initial acceleration -- he clearly gets to top speed in less than three steps, allowing him to break on routes and helps make up for any mistakes he might make. Once he gets himself into the vicinity using his speed, his ball skills carry over from the offensive side to the defensive side, allowing him to finish plays with interceptions.
Possessor of around 20 scholarship offers, Turner hasn't yet decided whether he wants to stay close to home or venture out of state, but rumors indicate that Texas should be able to make the initial cut when Turner does decide to narrow what is currently an extensive offer down to a handful of favorites.
It's hard to foresee a scenario in which Turner does not receive a scholarship offer this weekend if his basketball commitments allow him to make it to Austin. It's equally hard, if not harder, to foresee a scenario in which he commits to Texas this weekend -- Turner plans on making a decision some time in the fall ($). When that happens, the Longhorns have a strong shot to be in the mix if they decide to hold a spot in the secondary. Of course, there are no guarantees that there will be room at that point.
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Does making it for a junior day matter?
If ’Horns are going to pursue OOS stars, junior day attendance my be unlikely. As I understand it, these weekends are not paid for, so the young man and his family have to come up with the funds. For an OOS player whose family has limited finances, this is a real hardship.
Also, with (high school) spring break just around the corner, isn’t that the logical time for somebody coming more than 300 miles to make his visit?
I do, however, love the geographical stretching in our search for talent.
Making it down to Austin
is more important than making a Junior Day, but I think the coaching staff prefers for the players who aren’t elite-level national prospects to make it in on a Junior Day. As for receiving an offer, my understanding is that the coaches may offer a kid over the phone or through the mail, but it’s not really made official until they visit and that offer can only come from Mack Brown. Then the official scholarship offer comes in the mail. I also believe that Brown will not accept a commitment until he has sat down with the player and preferably his family to make sure that everyone is on board with the decision.
As for spring break, that does seem logical, but I think part of the appeal of the Junior Days is to get the full tour with the other prospects, though I can’t say for sure on that. It may also be highly recommended by the coaching staff unless there are scheduling problems.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 24, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
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Kids like him probably make Coach Brown nuts. After everything he does to make sure the commit is solid and not taken lightly to have a guy renege must be frustrating. I can’t imagine what else he can do to prevent that from happening occasionally though if the NCAA won’t allow an earlier signing date.
One other thing that requiring an oos prospect to make it down to Austin does is to confirm the prospect’s interest in the Horns. Just because Texas is one the top handful of programs in the country, lots of oos players talk about their interest in Texas without ever having serious intentions of coming here. But a prospect’s going to the trouble and expense of making it down to Austin to check out the program goes a long way toward showing that there is a real interest there on the prospect’s part and that we will not be wasting our limited time and resources in pursuing the prospect. It’s easy to forget but for every phone call made, for every letter written, for every prospect visited, there is some other bit of recruiting business that is either being put on hold or canceled altogether. It’s not like these coaches are ever sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
I agree for the most part, but there could be exceptions
For example, if a recruit were financially unable to make it to Austin due to travel costs, which are only payable (and even then, only partially) for one official visit. Or if a prospective recruit has to work to help his family’s finances, and is unable to get off work for visit.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 25, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
I really like that we are bringing in more OOS recruits
I don’t expect us to start signing any more than we already have, though I wouldn’t be against it, but I just think it heightens the visibility of the program. Every recruit follows recruiting and looks at the major sites. The more they and fans see that Texas at least has a hat in the ring, even if they don’t offer but are just showing interest, it raises the visiblity of the program and in my mind increases our chances for getting OOS prospects in the future.
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