Game Preview & Open Thread: Texas at Oklahoma
Texas Longhorns at Oklahoma Sooners, Feb 6, 2010 3:00 PM CST
State of the rivalry: It would be too much to say that Texas fans could be fully satisfied by opponent misery alone (one gets the feeling many Aggies certainly could be) but there's no question that Sooner suffering runs a close second to success of our own. Needless to say, the past year has been about as blissful an experience as is possible for Longhorns fans: Though all the near-missing (national runners-up in baseball, volleyball, and football) stings a bit, not only is Texas fielding nationally elite teams across the board -- racking up conference titles, and enjoying enormous success, generally -- but it's coinciding with a discouragingly difficult spell for the hated Sooners. Call it karma for the bullsh** BCS Title Game berth in 2009, as since then the Sooners:
Baseball: Were eliminated by Missouri from their half of the bracket in the Big 12 baseball tournament, and saw #4 seed Wichita State win the Norman Regional.
Football: Lost Sam Bradford and the game to BYU, lost another to Miami, lost for the fourth time in five years to Texas, were relegated to El Paso by their 7-5 season record, and got thoroughly licked by Texas recruiting the state's top talent.
Basketball: Have thus far been thoroughly mediocre without Blake Griffin, having followed two season-opening wins over nobodies with three consecutive losses -- to Virginia Commonwealth, San Diego, and Houston -- and sit at 12-9 (3-4 in Big 12) heading into Saturday's game versus Texas.
In the realm of Longhorn fandom, this is just about as good as it gets.
Oklahoma Season To Date: The Sooners went 9-5 during non-conference play, losing to UTEP and Gonzaga, in addition to the three I already mentioned. Among their 9 non-con wins, 6 were completely meaningless (Mount St. Mary's, UL-Monroe, Nicholls St., Centenary, and MD-Eastern Shore), and the other 3 were only of limited value -- vs Arkansas (KenPom #102), vs Arizona (#71), at Utah (#117).
The Sooners are 3-4 in conference play, with a perfect home-road split. They've lost all 4 of their road games, by an average of 15 points -- at Baylor (-31 points), Texas A&M (-3), Texas Tech (-10), and Nebraska (-17) -- and won their 3 home contests, by an average of 5 points -- OSU (+5) in overtime, Missouri (+5), and Iowa State (+5). The win over Missouri represents their lone victory this season over a KenPom Top 50 team (#15).
Oklahoma tempo-free statistical profile: While the Sooners haven't been very good offensively, they've been an absolute nightmare on defense.

Stats via Ken Pomeroy
Offense: The most striking aspect of OU's offensive profile is the point distribution, with a full third of the Sooners' points scored coming by way of the three pointer. Not surprisingly, the Sooners have been terrible rebounding their own misses, and despite being a good free throw shooting team do a poor job of earning trips to the stripe. Together, the numbers paint a clear picture: Oklahoma is too often either disinterested in, or incapable of, attacking the paint and settles for gobs of long jump shots. (More on this when we get to the personnel.)
Defense: The numbers are even worse on defense, painting a picture of an OU team that is indifferent towards making things happen on defense, or really incapable, or really passive. They block very few shots, almost never steal the ball, rarely create turnovers of any kind, and allow opponents to shoot a high percentage, both inside and out. Given all that, you'd at least expect the sagging Sooners to be severely limiting opponents' second chances, but they're even mediocre in that regard, too.
Oklahoma personnel: The primary focus of OU's offense is the supremely talented Willie Warren (6-4, 199 lbs), a name Longhorns fans shouldn't have any trouble remembering after his spectacular 27-point performance in Austin a year ago. (With Blake Griffin on the sideline displaying the most confusing symptoms the world has ever seen, Warren took the reins and lit up Texas on 10-of-20 shooting, including 6-12 threes, very nearly enough to lead OU to victory, but for A.J. Abrams' most memorable performance as a Longhorn.) After averaging 14 points an 2 boards a game as a freshman, Warren's upped his season averages to 17 points and 3.5 rebounds, but he's seen his three point percentage plummet to 28.4% on the year, from 37.5% a year ago.
I initially expected to find that dip in shooting percentage to be a reflection of Warren's settling for more threes this year, but discovered the opposite is true: he's only shooting 40% of his shots from downtown this year, down from 50% last year. After which the real explanation became obvious: Blake Griffin. Or more precisely, the defensive attention Blake Griffin regularly drew. Willie Warren was open a lot last year because so few teams dared not double-team Griffin. This year not only are none of Warren's teammates drawing anything like that kind of attention, but the opposition's primary defensive focus is on Warren himself.
Griffin complemented Warren's game by occupying multiple defenders and giving OU a fearsome inside presence. This year, Warren's getting anything but complementary play from OU's other primary offensive weapons. Freshman point guard Tommy Mason-Griffin (5-11, 203 lbs) is the kind of player who can make a crowd at Rucker Park explode; he's a player in the same mold as guys like Sam Cassell and Baron Davis. Except that where they're both a legit 6-3, Mason-Griffin is 5-11 in thick-soled sneakers. Though TMG is shooting the ball exceptionally well (45-101, 44.6% 3PFG on the year), his game isn't producing two point buckets (48-123, 39% 2PFG on the year), isn't getting him to the line (21.4 FTRate and just 48 attempts on the year), and -- most importantly -- isn't complementing Willie Warren well at all. Too much dribbling and too many inadvisable attempts to create for himself, making it easy to see why Oklahoma's playing a lot of one-on-one basketball and shooting long jumpers. If you want to know why Willie Warren's turnover rate is up well over 20% on the season, now you know.
OU's other important freshman name to know is C Tiny Gallon (6-9, 300 lbs), who I really wish played for another team, because he amuses me endlessly and is the kind of player I would probably find myself rooting for. From his name, to his surprising capabilities in the open floor, to his propensity for clumsiness as a post player, Tiny Gallon is a mishmash of contradictions, and it really does amuse me and make me wish he were on a team I don't despise. Suffice to say for now that the college game is still moving too fast for Gallon, and though he's talented enough to be contributing nicely for a freshman, he's clearly a ways off from putting everything together and becoming a difference-maker.
All that said, OU isn't mediocre this year because their freshmen are warted. They're struggling because outside the three players we've discussed and senior Tony Crocker (6-6 199 lbs) the Sooners have absolutely nothing. Freshman guard Steven Pledger (6-4, 221 lbs) mostly hovers around the perimeter and either tries not to get in the way or shoots a three (where he's connecting on just 30.5% of his attempts). Junior Cade Davis would be a solid role player on a deep team that could bring him off the bench for 15 minutes a game; on this OU team he's a one-trick pony playing nearly 30 minutes a game. Worse, he's not that good at his one trick: he's connected on just 34 of the 102 threes he's jacked up this year (33.3%), and he made just 59 of the 185 threes he shot across his freshman and sophomore seasons (31.8%). I'll be honest, if Texas sent this team to the court some year, I'd really struggle to maintain interest, if only to ensure I didn't have to spend so much time writing about how frustrated and disgusted I was with the overall composition and performance of the squad.
Keys to the game: ESPN's College Game Day crew asked a fair question about Saturday's contest: "Is this a trap game for Texas?"
There seem to me three intangibles worth considering: (1) the looming Big Monday showdown with Kansas, (2) the ease with which Oklahoma's mediocre season will make it for Texas to take a win for granted, and (3) the Sooners' home court advantage.
1. Start strong and make Oklahoma earn it. The 'Horns by and large have not been a good first half team this year, a trait that can carry amplified consequences in road games: the crowd remains loud and engaged; the home team enjoys a surge of confidence in their ability to win the game, that they might not so easily muster on the road; the road team must try to get on track in an unfamiliar environment. And so on. There's only so much you can control, so there's no mere willing your way to a good start, but it bears emphasizing the importance of doing those things that you can indeed control, to minimize the chances of a poor start on unfriendly territory. In most instances, "Don't take Oklahoma for granted" isn't something we'd explicitly list as a key to the game, but given those three intangible factors in play, it's certainly worth a mention. Not taking Oklahoma for granted means not looking ahead to Kansas, but even more than that (since it's hard to imagine the team lackadaisically approaching any game in Norman, ever) it means Texas must be sharp in doing the little things that will mean any strong first half for the Sooners is a result of OU playing well -- earning it -- rather than their taking advantage of sloppiness by Texas. Whether it's not falling asleep on Warren and TMG when they're off-ball, or executing offense with purpose to ensure Texas gets the good shot off an advantageous match up (as opposed to, for example, the jumper early in the shot clock), the 'Horns can take some of these intangibles out of play by doing all those little things they're capable of but oftentimes get away from doing, especially on the road.
2. Demonstrate consistent offensive patience. On every single offensive possession today, Texas should be able to get a favorable look. They won't make a bucket every time, but they can get good shots against these Sooners every time. This need not be a repeated effort to get the same great look, from the same player, over and over (e.g. forcing bad passes to a double-teamed, entry-denied Pittman), but can come any number of any ways, via the varying strengths of our differing personnel. It's getting the ball to Pittman in position when OU doesn't defend in a way to deny it. It's running high-low sets with Damion James and/or Gary Johnson, creating spacing, and making the Sooners defend away from the ball. It's putting Jordan Hamilton in a position to succeed, and Jordan Hamilton opening up his outside game by making OU deal with his to-the-rim game. And so on. This is an opportunity for Texas to demonstrate that it's progressing offensively, having arrived at a point where it can systematically take advantage of a favorable defensive match up like this one.
3. Don't let Willie Warren get on track with penetration hoops. Willie Warren is one of those players who can single-handedly ruin your afternoon, even playing on a mediocre team. He can score from anywhere on the court, and if he gets in a groove, he's both capable of and comfortable with playing the role of one-man show. Barnes' instinct may be to put Justin Mason on Warren, but I remind everyone that Mason struggled to keep Warren out of the lane on penetration last year in Austin. Whether it's Mason or someone else, the emphasis must be on keeping Warren from geting things going with his dribble drive, and if our strategy/personnel choice isn't working, we need to change, and quickly. In all likelihood, Rick Barnes is going to have to play a couple guys on Warren over the course of the game, because he does an excellent job of drawing fouls (50.0 FTRate, 6.0 fouls drawn per 40 minutes), so it would be risky to stick Dogus on Warren from the get-go and expect him to give us 30 minutes, should we need them. If Balbay does draw the early assignment, then it becomes especially important that he not pick up one of the cheapie perimeter fouls he draws a time or two per game.
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Digger Phelps cracks me up.
“I think Oklahoma misses Blake and Taylor Griffin.” Really? Really. But thank goodness Bilas bails him out with the “pay-back / trap-game” commentary. Classic.
You forgot another key to the game: MAKE FREE THROWS!
Thanks PB for the all-inclusive game prep. Look forward to your new av-sig because the MNC score kinda sucked.
Hook ’em.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
soothsayer
You forgot another key to the game: MAKE FREE THROWS!
real shocker that that would be one of our undoings
by the other Andrew on Feb 6, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
Expecting another close game on the road
And not just because it’s technically a rivalry game. Ever since conference play started, I’ve been reminded how little rankings seem to matter in college b-ball when compared to football when it comes to predicting the outcome/flow of the game. From a perception standpoint, if we’re ranked in the Top 10 and the opponent isn’t even close to cracking the Top 25, I find it frustrating when the game doesn’t quickly become a blow-out.
I’m sure it’s a combination of playing so many more games in b-ball and it being so difficult to maintain a high level of enthusiasm game after game. You just can’t bring the fire game after game, especially when you’re line-up is dotted with freshmen.
Hopefully we turned a corner in Stillwater Monday night and renewed our focus this season, but with 10 regular season games remaining on the docket, I’d imagine we’ve got a few head scratchers to come.
And with KU still undefeated in conf. play, we probably can’t afford another loss if we still have hopes of contending for the regular season title. Setting the tone early as stated above is probably the #1 key for this game as well as the all the ones to follow.
I’m still wallowing in self pity from the National Title game…time to move on.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Did you see what MB said at the presser this week?
I mean with 3:50 left, I still thought we were going to win and I think all of our kids did. I still haven’t been able to watch it. I will before spring,..
Hey, we are all having a tough time moving on.
I have not watched the replay either. Probably wait for the Spring thaw…..
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Started to watch it about a week after I got back from LA, but deleted it right after watching Colt go down
It was like going home from a famous person’s funeral and then watching the replay on TV…other than checking to see if your tie was on straight, what’s the point?
I want to celebrate the good season, only Mack’s second Big XII title and Colt’s career, but I can’t passed the what could have been and in my mind, should have been.
No offense to the b-ball lovers, but success on the hard court just can’t fill the void on the grid iron.
At least there’s beer…and I’m having some. You all should have some too.
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
I gotta feeling ..
Horns gain confidence from Okie Lite – continue the momentum from the second half – and this one isn’t close. Horns by 10.
I'm expecting a win by 10 as well
Optimistic for sure, but I think things clicked on many levels in Stillwater that will carry through into March. Rotation should be much clearer & tighter and I have a feeling FTs will continue to be better. We shouldn’t have to count on a Hammy show again, but some things may have clicked for him too. We know he has the talent.
If I’m wrong about any of this, I’m going to be kinda grumpy all day.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
by Infield Elephant on Feb 6, 2010 1:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think we can blow them out
Barnes needs to use the same rotation as he did in the Okie State game. If Brown, Hamilton, and Chapman can give us all productive minutes off the bench, it’ll be too much.
Balbay should guard whoever is playing the best between WW and TMG.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 2:19 PM CST reply actions
Man, I have a been pretty nervous about this game
I just don’t know if we have our swagger back, a big win today would go along way to beating Kansas on Monday though.
Hook ’em!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I live in OKC
and the locals all have been really down on OU’s basketball team for a while. Apparently the stars of the team (Tiny, TMG, WW) are all cocky and not team players at all, and the rest of the team sucks. I’ve even heard it suggested at different times that none of them be allowed to play because of their attitude (not all at once; each individual player earned a suggested benching independently). I expect that the better players keep the game close, but the clear gap in depth will quickly reveal itself, probably before the first half is over. I’m calling a blowout.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
live tempo-based stats here for TX/OK
http://scacchoops.com/ViewHDGame.asp?hSchedule=5897
starters are posted for both teams
damnit Barnes
… He’s playing Mason and Balbay to start out the game. Come on Barnes, can’t we see those two separated so that we can play some offense too?
TEXAS FIGHT
Warren is not starting
Has it gotten that bad?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
He's been dealing with a bum ankle
Might have re-injured it. Sooners are screwed if he’s out.
You ain't hurt...
Craig Way reporting he is just getting word that Willie Warren "likely" not to play today.
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Huge
considering we play KU in two days, we need this game to be as painless as possible. Hoping Nebraska gives KU all it can handle today.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. Lucky you.
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BC's got to get to 5pm mass so it can't go on much longer
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Game tip. Longhorns control.
Pitman misses on an Off rebound to start.
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James fouls and OU makes 1 FT. OU 1 UT 0
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Damo to the ft line. Misses both. ugh.
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OU 4 UT 0 - 3pt make in the corner
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Mason layup. OU 4 UT 2
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Can we pic of you and Wiggo live blogging next to each other and sharing an afghan blanked and some Earl Grey...
Good times, special.
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Prayer unanswered for BC...let's move on shall we
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OU 6 UT 2
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like clockwork really
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
by Mulliganville on Feb 6, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
GARY JOHNSON! nice cut
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missed FT...that never happens
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Beautiful dish
to Gary. Strong finish. Love that he tried to score and not just get fouled like he normally does.
--AW--
GARY!
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Nice screen. Need more patience on offense.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Is Hammy pacing himself
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He does a lot well
But you’re right, and it’s been a problem for much of the year. He’s GOT to play bigger on defensive boards.
You ain't hurt...
What the heck is wrong with Downtown J'Covan Brown???
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 3:20 PM CST reply actions
J'Brown better quit shooting 3's. Not his game.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
I think Rick has told him if he shoots, he sits.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
And if he poots, he shits...sorry it was time a out
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
OU with early rebounding lead 10-6
plus those 3’s. Diff in the game so far.
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So that's what a made FT looks like
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streaming radio link
can someone please provide a streaming radio link… i am unfortunately in the office today
Dex strong there.
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Dex is hungry
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Great pass 23
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Gary rebounded that one. Nice.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Maybe it was Warren II that was injured
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Bad idea jeans
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Stunning
We’ve got so many great match ups in this game, and we’re just slingin’ it.
You ain't hurt...
Not running screens. Not getting the ball inside to Dex consistently. Damo not involved.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Hamilton has
no sense of floor spacing. He drives toward a teammate just about every time he puts it on the floor.
--AW--
na na na naaaa.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
OU has less idea
of where to go for points than we do.
They have really, really regressed this season.
--AW--
"And all of sudden the Longhorns are back within 2"
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Here we go
’Horns improving, OU regressing to the mean, jacking threes at every turn.
You ain't hurt...
need to get james involved in the flow of the game
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Good drive by Hamilton
Tough shot, but was in the paint, led to weakside offensive board.
You ain't hurt...
And to think he was almost a Sooner
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
The rest look like they went down on Mary Kay
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry, Dime
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
I miss the Penders Jump Stop
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Living by 3's now
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Another slow start
you want to say it justifies Barnes changing the starting lineup, but you’d rather have a great 2nd half than 1st half (see UConn game). Once again like in the Oklahoma St. game, the key is just going into halftime with the ability to win.
Barnes strategy is to wear out Bradley, so he can wear out TMG. Hmm…
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:41 PM CST reply actions
Memo to J'Covan Brown:
You’re shooting 28% from three and 92% from the foul line. Me thinks you should be driving more than jacking up threes.
OU just unconscious from three. They shoot 35% for the season, so look the law of averages to kick in soon.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:43 PM CST reply actions
Davis is gellin' like felon
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Texas doing a great job responding to OU's threes
once they start missing (like the airball we just saw lol),I think we’ll pull away with this game.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:45 PM CST reply actions
1 and 1 for Balbay coming up... as good as a turnover
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 3:46 PM CST reply actions
He is a cool customer for sure.
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Fear the hair
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terrible transition D
Maybe nobody wants to get close to affliction guy?
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
38-29 OU, 3:50
This is sad. OU is so bad. They are w/o their star and yet their up nine. We have no rhythm on offense and are letting OU torch us from deep.
--AW--
Warren is not a star for them anymore.
He has been terrible all year.
But he is definitely another threat on the floor when he’s there.
by HornPossessed on Feb 6, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
You would know better than me in this area, so I won't argue.
Most of my analysis is based on assumptions of his character, so not really accurate.
by HornPossessed on Feb 6, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Sad to say
We are not doing the little things to avoid a bad start. Tough to pull out of these poor starts on the road.
You ain't hurt...
Airball layup.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Unbelievable
Balbay needs to play like PG.
ANOTHER THREE.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions
we're not gurading them either. At least get a hand up.
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
OU playing better without Warren
playing more like a team.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions
Is it too early for the screaming lady?
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
May not be too early for the fat lady
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
For the record, we're still going to win this game
but this is just embarrassing.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions
OU has 27points from behind the arc
we have 29 total points
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 3:50 PM CST reply actions
I am done!
This team absolutely makes me sick. No chemistry or effort.
That'sCrazy talk
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
This team will do that to a person.
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They have no one who can slow down Damion on the drive
This should not be so difficult.
You ain't hurt...
I think Rick Barnes took his Zen like approach one year before...
he actually knew how to do it well. He is not Phil Jackson, but he’s trying to be. I miss the fiery Rick Barnes
I don't think we're looking past OU
they’re just making their threes, like the OSU game.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
OU our biggest basketball rival?
HA
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
He'd shoot better than Balbay.
Not dissing Balbay, but he can’t hit anything…
by HornPossessed on Feb 6, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
44-29 OU, under 4
Wow, OU 9/16 from three. Texas not finding shooters. Gotta make Davis and TMG put the ball on the deck.
On offense, we have no clue right now.
--AW--
Offense
Our poor offense is as responsible for OU’s explosion as it is for our own mediocrity.
You ain't hurt...
Why why why is everybody saving their best game for us?
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Has Barnes ever developed a Forward or guard into a Star player?
Royal Ivey mayber?
Jesus, James misses both
5-13 from the line. Their 3pt% is better than our FT%
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions
Story of the game...OU shooting at a higher percentage from behind the arc than we are...
from the FT line.
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I thought Barnes' specialty was defense?
Apparently everything has fallen apart in these last three weeks.
Was that an F-Bomb?
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you can't be serious
Our 2nd half vs OSU suggests this game isn’t nearly over.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. J'Brown can't even buy one.
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Wow, everything going wrong now
Brown misses a FT
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 3:57 PM CST reply actions
This team makes me drink
In fact, no time like the present
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Texas is playing with out any fire
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
But once you get down by 18
You should play a little harder.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
or skill, or urgency, or a clue
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by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
???
what do you want them to do? Take a shot with 18 seconds left and then let OU have the last possession?
Don't know if BurntOut78 was referring to it or not
But I was frustrated we didn’t play for 2-for-1 when we had the ball with 55 seconds and just dribbled around doing nothing (before turning it over, natch)
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who knows why he's even in the game
Barnes could have subbed in Hamilton
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
It'll all get fixed at half. You heard it here first.
College Station made The Guinness Book of Records: World's largest tool shed
Halftime, 48-30, Barnes' offense is a complete embarrassment
OU is bad on defense? Who cares when your offense is even worse?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:00 PM CST reply actions
Starting on a new bottle of Maker's Mark
It’s gonna be allllll right…
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Can't wait for baseball, spring football, girls softball...
anything but this painful fall from grace. Wow.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
There's plenty of talented coaches out there that would have the fire to take on the TEXAS job.
At Texas, your job depends on how you are performing recently not what you did in the 2 – 5 years after Penders left.
Terrible last poss
with Mason and Lucas on the floor together.
Nothing went right there. 48-30 at half. I feel sick.
Texas can’t play defense, can’t make a free throw or a layup, are missing an identity on offense, and, just as Gotlieb just said, our offensive players can’t defend and our defensive stoppers can’t shoot.
Lots to fix at halftime.
--AW--
Ill-prepared
Not seeing any signs that indicate the players are botching orders. The team looked ill-prepared for the Sooners. Rick’s in my doghouse.
You ain't hurt...
this is too big of a hole to get out of.....
rest up and focus on Monday’s tilt.
Sooooo, we pretty much have to win out the rest of the season to have a shot at the Houston Regional huh?
how did it come to this?
I'm still glass half full, but
we’re not getting the Houston Regional. That’s over.
I have tickets too. Shit.
--AW--
We'd need Kentucky
to be the #1 seed in Houston and Texas get the #2. That means basically winning out and at least getting to the Big XII tourney final if not winning it.
--AW--
eeek!
so its more likely we’ll be stuck with a 3 or 4 seed and have to pray we’re en fuego in March.
if you're not a 1 or 2 seed....
it doesn’t matter, you just have to hope you’re team is clicking on all cylinders to get to the final four.
1 or 2 seed can get by without that.
Thought about it
But we’ve been playing like dog in the first half all year, and we’ve rallied to win almost every time. So I’m wondering whether we’ve got a good thing going with the single thread…
You ain't hurt...
I say give them all Viagra at half.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
I'll make my weekly plug for the folllowing
Try a 2-3 zone and put AB at PG. Can’t possibly be any worse.
PG – AB
2- Jordan
3- Damo
4- GJ
5- Dex
Eh....
Put Dogus at the 1, move Damo to the 4, and GJ to the 5.
OU has no height, they would have trouble with that too.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
You want to zon a team shooting 60% from three?
Plus a zone really takes away our defensive advantage in Balbay/Bradley.
Syracuse runs zone in virtually every game. It's their base defense.
Texas runs the man as a base defense. I don’t think it’s a particularly good idea to change your entire defensive philosophy in February, especially when your forte on defense is dribble drive defense.
it's higher variance, but higher reward
do you want to win more games now, or have a shot at the title in March?
Obviously, I want the latter, but I fail to see the correlation.
How does the 2-3 give us a better shot in March?
it's an assumption based on our failure to execute man D
and our possession of tall quick athletes like we’ve never had before. We look like the perfect zone team. I dunno. Just a solution-oriented vent really.
Could be worse
OU could be shooting like UNLV in their first half – 65% from the field and almost 70% from 3.
Avalanche of fail
Rick Barnes: Fail for preparation, and fail for personnel management in the first half
Dogus: A rare fail, making all the wrong decisions.
J’Covan: Super fail. In every way.
Damion: Junior year fail.
Gary: Big bag of fail.
We’re doing nothing right. Frustrating…
You ain't hurt...
We’re doing nothing right. Frustrating…
This
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Even if we can come back and make this a game
will we have any energy for KU?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:07 PM CST reply actions
More worried about approach
We’re all over the map. When we do things right, we look great. But there’s no linear progress. Time and again, the same mistakes pop up, and our approach looks terrible.
Hard to know what to make of Texas, other than to say that we can beat anyone, or stumble at any time.
You ain't hurt...
Just me or was OU's Davis Michael J. Fox's nemesis in Teen Wolf
How’d that game turn out?
Cue 80’s montage…win…in the end, yeah.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Barnes is playing mind games with everyone.
His plan is to lose the rest of the games this season and then unleash a relentless amount of subbing in the tourney to ware teams down….wait that is our current gameplan. Forgot!
Sweet, there's an Albino OU Cheerleader...or maybe she just needs more iron
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Bradley had some good moments
but 7 points on 8 shots is not very efficient. James needs to be able to make some midrange shots, because he if goes to the basket, he’ll get fouled. 2-6 from the line.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:10 PM CST reply actions
Bradley the only bright spot
Last 12 minutes of half he was excellent. Sadly, he was surrounded by buffoonery.
You ain't hurt...
The strategy of running Bradley around to wear out TMG
another fail. You’re using an amateurish strategy like that and not worrying about running a competent offensive scheme?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
We need the entire OU contingent at Lloiyd Noble
to drop the upside down horns. That’s how big a jynx we need for the 2nd half comeback.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
I'd like to suggest a new offensive approach
Give the ball to J’Covan Brown on every possession, and let him try to get fouled. Seems to be our only hope of scoring points.
They tried that....
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I was having such a great day before I turned this game on! Skiied deep pow up on Teton pass, had a great lunch...now this! damn!
I'm still shoveling.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
We don't need to fight each other...we...need...to partay!!!
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Please just start getting the ball inside
James needs more then 3 shots.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
We need to treat our adjustments like the Seinfeld
episode where George does the opposite of everything he thinks is right.
Hello, my name is George. I’m unemployed and live with my parents.
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Newman!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Hello, my name is Texas Basketball. I'm a poor defender and can't make FT
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
I've always loved bras...2 cups in the front, 2 loops, perfection
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Right. Manzere's all around.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Clap......clap......clap...clap...clap..clap-clap-clap-clap-
Let’s go, let’s go, let’s go…
“I love you guys.”
- Norman Dale
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
we gotta run Jimmy Chitwood off some screens and free him up for the jumper
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Just don't get caught watching the paint dry
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
What are the odds OU fans rush the court
if they win this?
Are they drinking the water? Because every other student body is.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
2-0 by my count a miracle field goal
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Toby is a good American...
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
by Mulliganville on Feb 6, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Dex, what are you doing so far away?
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Oh Dexter, you are a cereal killer
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
D strategy is horrible
Why is Dex hedging screens? Awful
3 fouls on Pittman, he's out
This is just sad.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions
James out instead
We’re down by 19 points.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
• Barnes recruits great talent
• He is a task master and his players work hard or they do not play
• Barnes’ offense has no rhythm and ball movement and does not lead to easy open jumpers, Barnes offense is NBA like, all about the drive to the hoop and letting 5 star recruits think they are already in the NBA
• Interesting to watch Bradley run around the offensive set, it reminded me of AJ, with one play randomly running around while the rest of the team plays Barnes’ patterned Motionless offense
• Other teams consistently can get un athletic guys open for jumpers by running an offense
• We are fundamentally a flawed team. We cannot shoot free throws and I swear the basic block out is a foreign concept for the Horns.
• At the end of the day we play hard, intense and dumb
• Great coaches come into each game with a game plan, I get the feeling our practices are all about punishing whoever did bad in the last game not about a specific game plan (see Izzo, Knight, Coach K, etc. for folks who get there team to exceed expectations
This is why Texas under Barnes has never perfumed better than their seed..
Yep, can't really disagree with any of this
This is proof it’s not all about having great players. You need a good coach with an actual identity on both sides of the floor. With this talent, they would flourish under Pat Knight’s motion offense for example.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
How does no one get back there?
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
we let affliction guy outrun us to the other end?????
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Too much bad stuff to keep up with
Poor decision on transition jumper by AB.
Lucas nearly airballs a three
but thankfully we get an offensive rebound. Good James
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:23 PM CST reply actions
Our pressure D gets us as many fouls as turnovers
2-3 zissone for the win
Ugh... stop fouling and play some defense
OU can make free throws.
Good board James.
Ugh… turnover and layup.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:23 PM CST reply actions
1 on 3. Unbelievable.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Bradley is allowed a few mistakes
he’s a true frosh and the only player besides Damo who lives up to expectations
we are down by 18
a few more mistakes like that and this game is over
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
OU has still not stopped Damion James on a drive
I propose it is because they have no one to stop Damion James on a drive.
How about we try that a little more.
You ain't hurt...
Here is what we need to do.
1. Play good
2. Stop Sucking
If you take care of number 1, then you don’t have to worry about number 2.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I asked my Dr. about erectile dysfunction...he told me to come back when I'm sober.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
A spark?
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
James makes first, misses 2nd
we get the rebound and AB makes the three. 4 POINT PLAY!
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:27 PM CST reply actions
Down by 13...I"m just saying
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Bradley too fast for Davis, goal tending
quick little 6-0 run!
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions
11 Point game
Not even close to being over!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
And the flop!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Huge board james
Travel on Johnson, doh
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions
Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Davis, 5'11", 6'5" with faux hawk...
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
I would like to see replays on both those last calls
Please!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
James handling the ball from the 3pt line = fail
I’d post him up
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions
we could've cut the deficit to 7 if not for those last two turnovers.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Back that ass up Pittman
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Rick bringing the Damo Cuss-Out play
This is what got us going against Okie State.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Powerful!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Great block Pittman
anything but a turnover here!
PITTMAN DUNK!
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:31 PM CST reply actions
With the flush...Dexy
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
When Hamilton starts making lay ups
he will be lethal
Ummm we kinda suck at full court press
our own players screen each other off
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:32 PM CST reply actions
Would you say we have a plethora of fouls?
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Triple team
and we let TMG get the sideline, awful
Great. OU 2nd best freethrow team in the league. Bonus time.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Do not understand the full court press strategy
Racking up fouls, and OU’s got guys who can handle the ball. We need stops in the halfcourt, not craziness all over the court. We got that in the first half. It sucked.
You ain't hurt...
I like it
if it takes the ball out of TMG’s hands. So far we haven’t played it smart enough to do that.
--AW--
It's all about trying something different.....
The half court thang sure as heck wasn’t working! Looks like it’s got OU a bit winded and out of sorts
Ugh!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
short guys witht he ankle risers really annoy me...too thuggish
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
Must be nice when your team makes free throws.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Remember the powduh. It will help.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Might have to go with 3-2 zone
we just can’t stop fouling. And please abandon the full-court press.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:34 PM CST reply actions
Barnes new philosopy...
“Being a basketball coach doesn’t define me” – this is his great for his life, but bad for our hopes of winning titles. You need a coach obsessed with winning and being the best to win titles. There are no elite coaches who have work life balance
Baylor looks like the cinderella team that can make the Elite 8 this year
they have everything a team needs to make a run.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:36 PM CST reply actions
Going to be a very dangerous 5 seed
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
by Mulliganville on Feb 6, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Is anyone else uncocerned about the conference standings at this point?
We’re not going to have a chance with a loss today, but I’m more concerned about our seeding in March.
Yeah, I really don't care about the conf. title
a nice Big 12 tournament run and we can get a 2-3 seed maybe.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Shit, Hamilton rims out a three
but huge bucket by AB
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:36 PM CST reply actions
How can we go from #1 to this in a couple of weeks?
Bring on baseball. (or football)!
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Oh shit Bradley getting hot
is he Hamilton vs OSU?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:37 PM CST reply actions
half way there...lets go Horns!
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
Another bail out foul, ugh!
under double digits. We got this. PLENTY of time.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:38 PM CST reply actions
9 points, 11 minutes
It can be done easily!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Just keep chipping away. Nine points is nothing.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Cade is a douche...no, look at him, he is
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
awesome!!
Bradley bails out Hamilton on the trey!!
by Heart of a Muschampion on Feb 6, 2010 4:38 PM CST reply actions
Down nine, under 12
Horns are not in terrible shape. OU is cold this half and Bradley is saving Texas on offense.
Keep taking the ball out of TMG’s hands and we’ve got a shot.
--AW--
Timeout. 59-50 OU
OU has cooled off tremendously. I would explore a zone defense. Last thing we should be doing is fouling. On offense, feed Bradley and post-up Pittman. I have a feeling it’s only a matter of time we get hot from three.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions
Hamilton, JBrown, Lucas, and Balbay
combined 1-15 from the field
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions
Ouch!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Yeah
Almost typed a comment five minutes ago that I wasn’t sure what Jai was giving us on the floor right now, but Balbay and Brown haven’t provided a better option so far today.
I’d bring Dogus back right now, though.
You ain't hurt...
And that's why we're down
Lucas/Balbay only 3 shots combined. It’s more about getting nothing from Brown and Hamilton. Same with Chapman.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
BRADLEY!!!!
how about Lucas with the nice drive and pass?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:42 PM CST reply actions
that was a check foul??????????????????????
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
garbage
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
MISS FT!
Oh my god… James needed to make that.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:42 PM CST reply actions
Bradley should be getting some good driving lanes now
that he is making shots
Why do they not call
that on James, but a silly touch on the other end
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
hamilton really coming into his own...like that kid
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
FTs for Hamilton
good sub by Barnes. Brown has given us NOTHING, so Rick went with Lucas. Happy for Jai that it’s working out so far.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions
wow
even the rims are against us!
by Heart of a Muschampion on Feb 6, 2010 4:44 PM CST reply actions
Wow i thought that was off OU
good hustle Hamilton
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:44 PM CST reply actions
Jordan jacks up another one
Great job Pittman
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:45 PM CST reply actions
Shit, what a shot by TMG
Jordan travels.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:46 PM CST reply actions
Was that really a travel?
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
"You gotta ride him when he's hot...and get him out when he's not."
Is that a Toby Keith song
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Big and Rich.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Really?
Really?
Everything is an offensive foul for texas, everything
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Bradley went straight up!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Bad Bradley
driving into 3 guys, someone has to be open
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:47 PM CST reply actions
Texas
Killing themselves…….
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Ambiguous water bottle is angry my friends
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Time becoming an issue
score stuck at 65-56.
Brown in the game. Another turnover.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions
OU outrunning the horns down the court.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Texas is killing themselves
Luckily OU can’t capitalize, we need a little run here.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
OU had a 4-1 break and shot a three?
they were fortunate to get the offensive rebound. Called for traveling. Barnes needs to put out a lineup that can score. Hope OU can keep missing threes.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:49 PM CST reply actions
Time to put it all together
If we’re gonna win, it’s all gotta go good from here out. Lay ups, rebounds, even free throws.
You ain't hurt...
Your prescription for everything
Seems to be to remove Hamilton. Can’t say I agree.
You ain't hurt...
Who wants to lose more?
Right now it looks like Texas, unfortunately.
Damo has to take this over.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
James makes a layup!!!
Great set play by Barnes
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:52 PM CST reply actions
James on the drive
Keep it up!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Offensive push off. No call.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
If Cade Davis is going to guard Hamilton
he needs the ball every possession.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:53 PM CST reply actions
Good board by James
Sink these free throws!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
More driving by James, another OU foul
gotta convert at the line now.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:55 PM CST reply actions
Damo playing with different energy. Glad he found some.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
we are nearing the bonus
can we decline the penalty like in football?
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 4:55 PM CST reply actions
Are you bipolar
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
DEFENSE!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
YES!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Turnover!
No TMG on the floor? Gotta capitalize.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:56 PM CST reply actions
Great D leads to a turnover!
Capitalize here
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Damion must hit ft's.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Foul on James
They can’t cover him!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Every time
They have no one who can guard Damion. Should have been doing this from the get-go.
You ain't hurt...
Good strategy by Barnes
attack whoever Davis is guarding.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:57 PM CST reply actions
Cade's faux hawk looking limper
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
I'm not sure I enjoy Jai in right...but I'm not sure if anyone else would be all that much better.
It makes me sad.
just so mental right now on the FT's
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
LOL my girlfriend just said
TX’s inability to make FT is ridiculous, pathetic
OU keeps missing!
More FTs for James lol
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions
James
4-12 from the line.
Make these!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Wow. Our bigs just cannot buy a bucket inside 4 feet.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
ou can't give this game away.
hard to watch
I'm embarrassed.....remember when 60% used to seem pathetic? We are making the Memphis Tigers look like Larry Bird
Let's go. C'mon Horns.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
James in for Mason
gotta feed Pittman, Johnson, and Jordan
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions
GARY!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
9 of 25...ugh ugh ugh
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
You have to pull that rebound!!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Bradley could not take a step
You can’t not let a guy take a step. Learn the rules Frannie
You ain't hurt...
lol
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
by Mulliganville on Feb 6, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Jeff Cable should have received a technical foul. Damn zebras.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
69-63 OU, under 4
Bradley shooting after timeout.
Have to, have to, have to make free throws.
They are a bonus, not a penalty.
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9 of 25...ugh ugh ugh
There must be something fundamentally wrong her. Is it just me but do our players get worse the longer they stay at Texas. Can anyone find what James, Mason and Johnson shot in High school.
I maintain that Rick has only been able to develop post players
and he has never improved a players perimeter shooting
I would like to see those stats too.
Mason was a pretty good shooter his freshman year, not sure what happened to him.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Wow....the +/- for this game right now is insane. Jai Lucas leading us with a +10 in 14 minutes of play
Had a feeling he'd be up there
Good news is he’s played well. Bad news is Brown regressing.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
God kills a kitten every time we miss a free throw
Today, it’s been a kitten massacre.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions
Watching UT shoot free throws is like playing the outside and getting...
your ass handed to you at the roulette wheel
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Why???
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Let's put them on the FT line!
They’re only the 2nd best FT team in NCAA (or Big XII, I wasn’t paying attention).
Davis bumps - no foul. AB bumps - foul. Not our nite.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
9-25
5-6 grade girls teams do better than that they are good for 1/2
9-26 from the line. This team has a complete lack for fundamentals
goes back to coaching.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:06 PM CST reply actions
nah. capability.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
why the three there JH
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." ~ Will Muschamp
""I always felt like, and I paid a price for it, that it didn't seem right for one guy to bring me down." ~ The Tyler Rose
Wide open drive!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
You see, he's not a machine...but he is a douche
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Never will
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I want gonzaga's FT shooting percentage
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
by 54b on Feb 6, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
This blows.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
by Infield Elephant on Feb 6, 2010 5:08 PM CST reply actions
i can't believe this is the same team......
that beat n carolina and mich st by 10+
Warren scores
Johnson 2 plus the foul. Can we make a FT?
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:09 PM CST reply actions
HUGE play Gary... gotta complete the 3-point play now
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 5:09 PM CST reply actions
Nice GJ
1:36 left, clock is ticking fast!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
"...more adventure than being at Disney's Disney World"
STFU Fran
by 7Swords of Salat on Feb 6, 2010 5:10 PM CST reply actions
Fran or Knight???
I will take Fran all day!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Ref jawin' with Barnes. What a fucker!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Imagin if we were 50% from the line
Or even just 62%
We would be great!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
DOGE!
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
We needed that
Not good!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
We just do not have a QB on offense.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
No fucking offense
Just one guy trying to take his man to the basket. Everyone else just standing around
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Damn...we needed that, it's hack n'hope from here on out
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
Well, that is game!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Frustrating!!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
how long does barnes get to skate on recruiting
He has no talent as a coach and our Brand name could bring enough recruits on its own
Yes, I do.
Sweet 16s are great, but we live in one of the most talent rich states for basketball. I think Rick should have taken the approach that Mack has used to return Texas Football to glory — lock down the state recruits. We have passed on quite a few in-state starts (e.g., TMG) for Dogus, Justin Mason, Matt Hill, etc. I think they are wasted scholarships.
I understand Final 4s are hard to reach, but with the talent we have seen walk on the 40 acres we should have made better runs in the tourney.
Problem is recruiting somewhat
we passed on Tommy Mason Griffin, for example. Instead we have Balbay, Brown, and Lucas
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldnt that be more barnes fault as well?
I am just sick of missing free throws…sick of doing stupid things and squandering what talent we do have, Durant was wasted here, we had a good enough team to beat that crap USC squad. I appreciate everything barnes did for this program, but its time to look elsewhere.
Yep, Davis should've fouled out there
can’t believe we’re going to lose to freaking OU. Barnes will be 14-15 against OU barring an OU collapse.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:15 PM CST reply actions
Worst loss of the season
Worse than the home loss to Baylor. The Bears have talent and will be in the NCAA tournament. OU, not so much.
Very disappointing—free throws, offensive gameplan, Hamilton’s shot selection, three point defense in the first half, playing Dogus and Mason together, and the list goes on and on.
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"offensive gameplan"
What is that? Not part of the program.
Serious question?
Bradley allegedly has NBA potential. When was the last time a guard in the NBA shot below 50% from ft?
He bailed us out against OSU
couldn’t do it today.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Sadly
I’m feeling like that was fool’s gold. He has no concept of team basketball. It’s all Jordan, all the time. Barnes has definitley failed to bring him along this season. Also important to remember that he didn’t play organized basketball last year at all.
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POssibility...
Can you see J Ham transferring or even leaving for NBA after this season? Branes is always on his ass and prob rattles his self esteem
Transfer, no
NBA, maybe. He has more of a pro game than a college one. I don’t expect it but I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a late first round grade (based on potentital alone) and said goodbye to Austin.
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Yep, looks like fools gold
though I would still give him minutes. Can’t develop with the team on the bench. Brown did not play last year either and he’s also had his struggles.
While Barnes is a great recruiter, I think this might be a warning sign in the future.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
The lessor for Barnes being
watch out with regards to recruiting players that took a year off.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
That's so UConn.
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry
Everyone is doing it these days.....
Students have a low definition of success.
Guys, you have to remember how young this team is.
When Dex doesn’t play much, you have James, and then you have a bunch of freshman.
They are gong to be inconsistent, but still should have won today.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
That's what I'm thinking
It’s almost like it’s a redshirt season for the program. Development time is about all that’s happening this year.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
And next year they'll be a bunch of sophomores...
…cuz NONE of them are good enough to get drafted. That’s no longer a concern.
41-38 !!
Anyone knows what happened to Pittman
we stopped feeding him and went with Johnson and James. Would’ve worked though if we made FTs
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:18 PM CST reply actions
Kansas is not going to be fun.
I have a feeling we might get run out of the building.
I've had a problem w/ Barnes dating back to 2005.
I think he has taken the wrong direction in recruiting and as has been proven recently, he’s not an Xs and Os guy.
So let's see
A year ago, Texas, Duke and Kansas were the only three teams to have gone to 5 of the last 7 Sweet 16s.
And you think we have the wrong coach. Okay.
You ain't hurt...
This is what I call settling
I am not settling for what Barnes has accomplished. He is capable of more
Yes, I do.
Rick needs to learn a lesson from Mack and lock down the state lines in regards to recruiting. We have too much talent in this state to allow them to leave (e.g., TMG et al).
I understand Final 4s are difficult, but with the players that have come through Texas in the last 5 years we should have appeared in another Final 4.
I like Rick and think he’s a nice guy, but it is time to realize that his inefficiencies on the offensive side of the ball (and nowadays, even the defensive side of the ball) are holding this team back.
Basketball recruiting and football recruiting
are SO different. You get three guys a year in basketball. You can’t lock down the in-state talent with three scholarships. We’ve had some pretty good out of state guys btw—Durant, James Thomas, etc.
Tristan Thompson and Myck Kbongo are not from Texas but I’m glad they’re coming to Austin. I’d like to get Cory Joseph too.
I agree that it is disappointing not to get to a Final Four but in-state recruiting has nothing to do with it.
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I guess I should clarify.
I would target Texas kids solely as we typically do with football. Granted, there are certain kids that are interested in Texas that have left the state, but I would place priority on the kids in Texas. For instance, I would have heavily pursued Willie Warren two years ago. I realize he was an OU lean all along, but why not pursue him. Instead, we got a guy who plays wonderful defense but can’t hit the broad side of a barn on offense in Dogus.
Basketball recruiting is a nationwide endeavor
Texas has the benefit b/c of Rick Barnes, b/c of TJ Ford, and b/c of Kevin Durant of recruiting coast to coast (Bradley from Washington and Vegas to Durant from DC and Virginia).
There is no reason to limit yourself to the best players from Texas when you can recruit the best players from the entire country.
You can say that some of our offers may have been misjudged (Hill or Chapman for example). I will agree with that. But I won’t agree that locking down Texas high school players is a good strategy for basketball recruiting.
Dogus btw was a last second offer because DJ Augustin was likely to leave in way less than four seasons.
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Highly doubtful, not at home
The Drum will be rocking. I predict we’ll win.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Stop the hate on Hamilton
If you went to practice with Mason Balbay Lucas etc and saw how bad they shot…you would jack shit up too. Hamilton was trying to bring us back with quick shots. Mason and Lucas were dribbling around like we had all the time in the worlds
the problem we are having...
is that hes taking shots when he clearly is not in position to take them, and ther are other players capable of making a open shot
once someone passes him the ball, he shoots. He needs to pass the ball around and
shoot when hes open. How can you defend his 3-14 shooting?
Agreed somewhat
some of the bad shots he took today, he made against OSU. Still doesn’t change that they weren’t good shots. He’s not playing like a team player. He’s becoming a black hole on offense.
With that said, he has to play. When he’s hot, he’s one of the best players on the team.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Rick,
You can’t just roll the ball out there and say, “Go Get ’em”. Do they actually HAVE practice?
41-38 !!
They dont need practice
they need to shoot 500 fts a day
They work real hard....
Yell and scream and beat on each other…not sure a lot of thinking going on at practice.
IT ALREADY FELL
THERE’S NOTHING LEFT BUT AFTERSHOCK AND ALL CAPS!
by HornPossessed on Feb 6, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
And tear down the Drum
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
well we should do that anyways
that place blows
Well, F*ck a D*ck
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Except that a Barnes offense won't have "flow"
You’re right though. J-Ham and Bradley are the type of players that should be finishing plays, not starting them on the 3 point line.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
Where are the adjustments? Where's the improvement?
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
FIRE THE FIRING SQUAD
They probably can’t hit anything either
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Hamilton's shot selection is on Dex and the rest of the tx players too
I’m sorry, but if I’m Dex or Damo, I go straight to Hamilton and say if you don’t start looking for me on the low blocks everytime you catch the ball then we are going to have problems. They lose money everytime Jordan misses them and fires up a wild short. They need to take charge and be men. Don’t let a freshmen make so many mistakes.
Same old song
Can’t beat even an average team when UT is down with less than 10min. to go. Not in months. This team is in a major funk, and I really don’t know what it’s going to take to snap them out of it. They can’t just write off the season, though, so something has to change. I just don’t know what.
I’m rarely one to just look at a season as a development year for future success, but that may be the ceiling right now. It just depends on whether they can overcome this trend that has taken over since starting the conference schedule.
there are just no positive things to take from this game
Avery bradley has flashed at times but he disappears as well. We need to pick an identity and stick with it thick and thin. Ride through these freshman and their mistakes and whether or not we win or whatever at least they will grow, maybe some hope
What is going on in this board today?
I’m rarely one to just look at a season as a development year for future success, but that may be the ceiling right now.
One comment after another, there’s this enormous disconnect between weaknesses that should be discussed and addressed, and the actual conclusions people draw from them. I’m starting to think all the shouting is a reflection of a fan base that just hasn’t watched that much college basketball.
It’s like everyone’s grading papers with the wrong rubric.
You ain't hurt...
In college basketball,
especially at this program we dont get more than one year with most players. Hamilton and Bradley might stay which would be amazing but they probably wont. Teams arent supposed to get worse as the year goes on. Im just critical of squandering what we have now for the sake of future, this is a year where we have a special team (or thought we had)
Why do you say that?
Do you see improvement in any of the aspects that have resulted in this dysfunction? I think this is a very young team that is also in a mental funk. So I asked an honest question. So why avoid it instead of just asking a question about the board in general?
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
PB
I think its a statement about where the program is that we have fans like this.
You mentioned earlier about going to the sweet 16 the last 5 out of 7 years. Everyone expects to win every game because what Barnes has done.
We have a bunch of football fans watching basketball, a loss in football is huge…its not as much in basketball. Losing on the road to OU is something that is pretty common for this Texas team, and something that you should not be ashamed of.
Because the fans expect to win every game says something about where this program is, and we can only point to barnes for getting us here. Not sure why I directed this at PB, because this should be directed about everyone else.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
What I mean by "fans like this"
Is that they are upset after a loss…a few years ago, people didn’t care.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Haha
Burntorangehorn, I’m pretty sure it was a compliment to our fanbase.
However, I am starting to worry a bit about this team. We’re in a pretty bad funk, and we need to get out of it.
Well, I wasn't even here a few years ago
But that’s the nature of the internet. And it seems like this is the same kind of loss as the ones against KSU and Baylor, where the horrible FT shooting and poor shooting in general, and other similar collapses, were quite similar to what happened today. The dysfunction is similar. I didn’t get to watch the UConn loss, but I would imagine that was fairly similar as well.
But the condescending attitude toward “fans like this” is much appreciated, I can assure you.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Not trying to be condescending at all
I include my self in that statement. I am far from happy about this loss, and the tone of my statement probably reflects that.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
It's not condescension. It's frustration.
I’m addressing this in the post-game wrap, because it’s seriously a widespread affliction among Texas basketball fans. What gets me is that the analysis of the problems is accurate and appropriate, and deserving of discussion. All too often, though, there’s an additional step added in, where the rightly addressed problems get attributed meaning on much, much larger questions. Sometimes they are, many times they’re not, but my feeling after being immersed among them for all these years is that there’s a fundamental misunderstanding about the nature of the sport of college basketball, its season, and its measures of success.
I don’t think anyone to be ill-willed, nor ignorant — it’s just more like a lot of Texas fans don’t seem to evaluate the college hoops team and program through a college hoops lens. I’d guess it’s often a football lens, but not always. Anyway, I’m going to spend a few words talking about it.
You ain't hurt...
Agreed
You have to look at football and basketball losses very differently. And too many fans quickly forget that.
However, today was not a good loss. OU was w/o their best player. He got killed by a 5-10 guard in the first half and then killed ourselves by missing bunnies and free throws all game long.
I’m very disappointed, as I’m sure you are too.
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Very dissapointed
Rick has taken this program really far, he needs to now take the next step.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
so your calling for complacency
A loss to OU isnt what the issue is. A loss that is a culmination of how weve lost every other game this year is. We arent changing anything, and I cant sit by and say thats okay. If we would come out and improve ONE aspect of our game steadily I can see your point. Thats not the case
There you go
I just think the fact that the same problems as in the other losses are plaguing this team means that there’s no real improvement. I realize that even the best teams will lose games in basketball, unlike in football, but there doesn’t seem to be any progress. It actually seems that the team has regressed this season, which is worrying for such a young roster.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
But how much of that can you correct during the season.
Free throws are something that you gradually get better at, and takes a lot of repetition. I don’t feel like that can be fixed right now.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I don't have the numbers to verify
But were FTs as big a problem earlier in the season? I mean, were they this bad, and I just didn’t notice because the team was winning every game? Or has the team regressed significantly? It’s not like it’s an issue of the level of competition or anything.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
They kept showing the numbers during the broadcast
Aprox: 62% during non-conference
and 60% during Big 12 play … so we sucked then and we suck now.
by Loisaida Horn on Feb 6, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
I do wonder if that's during all non-con play
Or if it’s just up until the K-State game, which was the point where I started noticing how bad the free throws were for UT.
I guess we’ll see how it goes. This team looked like a #1 seed up until that K-State game, and even played pretty well that night. Now it looks like an unranked team, because that’s how it’s been playing. It could get over these consistent problems, or it could be a bubble team.
by burntorangehorn on Feb 6, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
The team regressed
from “bad” to “catastrophically atrocious”.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
People are bummed out
This is not so much a discussion as a therapy session
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Texas needs to get the ball inside
They could not stop James on the drive, or Dex down low.
Is it time to start asking for some Chappy???
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Needed too, or needs to in the future
Dex is just not what we expected, or what we saw early.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Someone needs to challenge the manhood of Dex and Damo
If I’m Dexter, I look everyone in the eye and say give me the damn ball everytime down the court. Let me carry us. He and Damo are too passive and have not been taught leadership by Barnes
I think more just Dex
James needs to talk to him and let him know Dex needs to step up if they want to go anywhere.
When Dex is rolling, it makes everything else so much easier!
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Both
You have guys like a TJ ford, or a Kevin Durant who can come in and lead right away, but guys like Royal Ivey and Brandon mouton needed a few years befroe they could step up and lead.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Agreed
I’ve seen leadership from Damion this year. More than I thought he was even capable of before this season.
Dexter is another story. He comes across and plays like a quiet giant. I’ve never seen him lead.
This goes back to the need for a leader at guard. A leader who is going to have the ball in his hands the majority of the game and who can create his own offense. James has stepped up this verbally but he still needs help from his teammates to be “the man.”
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This might sound crazy
But I see it in J’Covan Brown, if he can play consistently on both sides of the ball, I think he is the one. Problem is he is just a freshman and needs to grow in the role big time.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Me too
And after fall practices and summer runs, that’s what I was hearing. That is why I though, J’Covan not Balbay, would be the man at the point. Brown hasn’t shown the good decision making though to warrant a starting job, imo. I have no problem with him coming off the bench.
J’Covan’s defensive abilities, in addition to the turnovers, are what has held him back this season.
As I mentioned in another comment, it is important to remember that Brown didn’t play hghs school ball last year and didn’t finish his senior season either. I guess we shouldn’t be shocked that it is taking him some time to find his place this season.
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Agree, Both.
You can be taught leadership. It’s not easy but our armed forces have mastered the science of developing leaders. Rick can teach leadership. Certain players need to act more like father figures on the team and less like friends. That should be Dex and Damo.
Is there any chance that...
Melchionni or Dick can shoot free throws??
According to the play-by-play
We missed 17 layups.
Add that on to 37% from the line and you just can’t win games
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Damion James 3 pt shooting
Did anyone notice that the 3 pter that James shot today was his first in like 4 or 5 games? Why the hell is he not shooting the 3 more?
we NEED this championship
after baseball, volleyball, and football went the way they did.
Just how big is the loss of Varez for the year?
I think it is more than one would believe. Early in the year, he was handling the ball quite a bit and posed a major threats to other teams. He played defense, but could always score. Any thoughts?
Of course it's a huge loss
lot of people forget he was starting before the freak injury. That should show what Barnes thought about him. Not that I’m already looking forward to next year, but I’m hoping he’s back next year healthy.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 5:56 PM CST up reply actions
Let's no look toward next year
The same pg problems await us and Damion and Dexter will be gone.
This was suppose to be our year.
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Yep
Hard to imagine we’ll be a better overall team next year unless all the young guys return and they magically blossom. Seems like a pipe dream given their lack of development this year.
by goingforthecorner on Feb 6, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing cures the ills of a team
like taking down the #1. You want a catalyst for a turn around and an end to whatever funk we are in. Showing up on monday is the first step. Even if we don’t win, and signs of improvement against a great team would work wonders for us, and our confidence which seems to be part of the issue
I agree
You can look back to last season too, we played at KU very well, and after that game we played pretty well the rest of the way. We need something to build on, I thought it was going to be that OSU win…
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Count me as one that believes like last year,
the game against KU will bring out the best in this team, and they’ll play much better the last 8 games and make a run.
This team is too freaking talented to keep playing this lousy. Just a matter of time….
I really hope your right
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Closing thoughts before Kansas game
So far impressed by:
1) 17-0 opening streak
2) Intensity
3) Playmaking ability of our freshmen
4) Full court press
5) Damian James and Avery Bradley
Most disappointed by:
1) Player development – Really, how much better are Balbay, Hill, Chapman, Wangmene, Mason, James and Dexter versus last year? Does anyone show more skill? I don’t even see any marked physical improvemnt…speed strength etc…
2) FT shooting…failure of recruiting and coaching

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