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Morning Coffee Talks 2010 and 2011 Recruiting Narratives

Horns_bullet_mediumIs the 2010 recruiting class the greatest of all time? For a shot period of time before and directly after the 2010 recruiting class officially signed, before every Texas fan began obsessively worrying about the future of the offensive line, the most common question on the lips of Longhorn recruitniks was whether or not the 2010 group represented the greatest recruiting class to ever become Texas Longhorns.

In terms of historical groups, the Worster Bunch of 1967 is most commonly referenced. Led by namesake Steve Worster, a bruising fullback who would go on to star in the Wishbone attack conceived in 1968 by Emory Ballard, the group set the standard for every recruiting class that would come after, both in terms of the hype that accompanied the class to campus and the eventual success of the group. Just how highly regarded were they?

A confidential poll of SWC Head Coaches taken for Texas Football for the 1967 recruiting class revealed that Texas has signed seven of the top eleven recruits for 1967 as well as 12 of the Top 22 recruits. People like Eddie Phillips, Cotton Speyrer and linemen Jim Achilles, Mike Dean and Bobby Mitchell, as well as defensive players like Bill Zapalac, Scott Henderson, Bille Atessis, and Greg Ploetz. Defensive back recruits included Danny Lester and Freddie Steinmark.

Billy Dale, a member of the class, summarized some of the Worster Bunch's accomplishments:

The record of the "Worster Bunch" during our four years at Texas was 35-2-1. This class produced 14 All-Southwest Conference members, two Academic All-Americans, five consensus All-Americans, six inductees into the Longhorn Hall of Honor and one Heisman Trophy candidate.

Compelling success, no doubt, but missing the most important number associated with the group -- two. That would be the number of championships won by the group, in 1969 and 1970, accounting for half of the national championships won by the Longhorns and making the '67 and 68' clases the only two in Texas history to win two national titles, a feat future classes are not likely to match.

There are multiple problems with comparing recruiting classes across such a great span of history, particularly because of the changes in scholarship limits and the fact that the game was still mostly segregated in the late 1960s. As a result, it's probably worth simply saying that the on-field success of the 1967 class has been unrivalled. All told, the Worster Bunch is essentially incomparable.

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In the modern era, the easy comparison is is the 2002 class that produced a handful of major contributors to the 2005 national championship, most notably Vince Young. In fact, it's the simple presence of Young that makes the class so hard to compare with any others. Of course, it's not fair to simply remove Young from the equation in any comparison, but at the same time, his transcendent talent seems to negate any comparisons whatsoever, presenting some serious problems in this endeavor.

The other problem is with the rest of the class. Should it be taken as a whole or should some of the colossal failures also be taken into account? Of the six five-star players in the class, wide receiver Marquis Johnson never made it to campus, cornerback Edorian McCullough transferred after one season due to academic problems, and Brian Pickryl was forced to give up the game after sustaining multiple shoulder injuries, derailing a career that started spectacularly as a true freshman.

Other players, like four-star defensive tackle Marco Martin, also failed to contribute to the program. Martin eventually declared for the 2006 NFL Supplemental Draft after having made only one tackle during his Texas career. Players like Garnet Smith and Robert Timmons, who were both also four-star prospects, contributed little, if any, to the national championship team.

The stark contrasts in the successes and the failures in the one class highlight the problems of evaluating a recruiting class. Is a class evaluated based on the overall ranking in the country, on the average star ranking, on the prognostications of so-called experts before any of the players even take the field in burnt orange? Or is about the end results, the number of games won, the championships won?

The hope is that Mack Brown and his staff have honed the recruiting process to the extent that they are no longer taking risks on players like McCullough and Johnson and that more effective evaluations will limit the number of players who wash out from the 2010 class -- some recent examples like Brandon Collins suggest otherwise, but claiming overall improvement hardly seems like a stretch. The high rate of talented players leaving the program for various reasons from the 2002 class illustrates why evaluating a class before they ever step onto the field is essentially fruitless -- talent and potential is one thing, but in terms of the ultimate goal, those two elements of talent and potential that often lead to success mean nothing until there is actual success on the field backing up those projections. Ultimately, then, the most important criterion for the success of the 2010 Texas recruiting class is whether or not they ever win a national championship. Anything else is just semantics -- a final verdict will not be handed down until then and any other method of evaluation is simply projection.

Horns_bullet_mediumThey are with us. Throughout much of January, the banging drum eventually in tune with the late commitments of Jackson Jeffcoat, Jordan Hicks, and William Russ was that of the marching 2010 class, headed, inexorably, Longhorn fans hope, towards future success. The five-star prospects and the kicker faced the choice of being part of that success or facing the possibility of having to go against the mighty Longhorns in a national championship. As players like DeMarco Cobbs, Mike Davis, and Darius White all decided they were with the Longhorns, the possibility of winning such a match up decreased.

And all those decisions, all those top players heading to Austin set up the 2011 narrative as being eerily similar...

Horns_bullet_medium2011 Narrative: With Us Or Against Us, Part II. With all that momentum, all that ridiculous, incredible, unbelievable momentum, the difficult task is to sustain it. Building upon it probably isn't even possible in fantasy worlds completely divorced from reality, but sustaining it may be possible. After all, the 2011 class is faced with the same decision -- the quarterback is in place and the defense is in place and the skill position players are in place, so these 2011 kids can be with the Longhorns or against the Longhorns. Their choice.

With the first Junior Day on Saturday, with several players most likely making it in to Austin to visit with Mack Brown on Friday evening, the great majority of offers will be out by this time next week and the recent past suggests a handful of commitments emergin on Saturday and Sunday. The evaluations have been done by the staff and though Brown might decide whether or not to offer a player as they discuss where Texas stands with that particular recruit, most of those decisions have already been made. The formerly derisive moniker of Coach February may no longer define Mack Brown, but it's still a huge part of what has made him the second most successful head coach in the history of Texas football.

Horns_bullet_mediumThe elephant in the room. Or lack of elephants. So, to address the concerns that loom large over the class. Despite Brown saying that the 2010 class covered every position, that's only true if he consider Trey Hopkins a tackle, which is a stretch -- the talented North Shore lineman could end up there because of his length, but it's unlikely. Later in his Signing Day press conference, Brown admitted that Texas probably should have gone after another tackle besides Matthews.

It's impossible to know what happened behind the scenes in terms of the evaluations made by Mac McWhorter, Greg Davis, and Brown, so speculation in that direction isn't particularly productive. What is more slightly more productive is predicting the future with the available information. This much is true -- Michael Huey, Kyle Hix, and Tray Allen, all players who were unable to redshirt and have generally been disappointments -- will all graduate after the 2010 season, along with Britt Mitchell, leaving only eight scholarship linemen on the roster in 2011, not including the 2011 class. The obvious problem is that of being able to field a two-deep depth chart without burning a redshirt, a tactic that significantly hurt the development of Huey, Hix, and Allen.

At this point, all the hand-wringing about prior decisions should take a back seat to the evaluations that are currently going on. As much as Jake Matthews would have been a great addition to the class or Luke Joeckel or Cedric Oguehi or whomever, the looming reality is that none of those linemen will ever play for Texas. Spencer Drango might. Or Christian Westerman. Trey Hopkins and Dominic Espinosa are both incredibly important to the program and will play for Texas. The 2010 evaluations were crucial, but the 2011 evaluations will be even more crucial and those will have some definite answers in the next several weeks.

Horns_bullet_mediumAll this also known as: OMG we need tackles!!1! More on that later this week.

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I think Garnet Smith transferred to aggie-commerce in early 2005, before the championship season.

It’s unfortunate that the line is looking so thin, because that’s one thing that can really wreck a season. One or two injuries, and you’re looking for tight ends to move to center (ahem…Eldridge). And without going the juco route, it’s hard to count on newcomers.

Another guy who is graduating is Steve Moore, by the way, not that he’s seen the field much.

I think there are actually nine linemen who will be around after 2011, potential attrition aside: Hopkins, Espinosa, Walters, Kelley, Porter, Poehlmann, Buchanan, Snow, and Ashcraft. Did I miss a story that one of those guys might be transferring or something? And then there are non-scholarship players Andrew Carroll, Drew Oldis, and Nick Zajicek, although Carroll might use up his eligibility by the end of 2010 as well.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 8, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

Didn't mention Moore

because he hasn’t played at all. You’re right about the nine — tried to count them in my head instead of listing them out. Thanks.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought it was 10

when I was doing the math in my head in an earlier post that was talking about how we only took 2 this year. At the time I didn’t think it was a big deal that we missed on the 3rd (Matthews) that we wanted this year, since we picked up 4 last year. I guess I thought Allen came back after next year also.

That doesn’t give us much room for injury or error. Much less scheme or player underachievement.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Feb 8, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

After seeing the way our line struggled this year, and with how thin we will be this coming year and/or the next, I’m worried that we will have an OU-like disaster of a season caused by the OL (good to great D, great qb, good skill players, horrible OL gets the QB destroyed). People keep mentioning NC aspirations over the next 2 years, but I’d temper those expectations until our OL proves itself. I’m really hoping that 2 of Ashcraft, Walter, or Kelley step up in a big way soon, or I fear we may be looking at a couple of 9 to 10 win seasons.

by UT_BKC on Feb 8, 2010 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

This year showed how poor OL play can completely wreck an offense. One would assume those kind of breakdowns will be even more deadly with an inexperienced QB. I will be interested to see how they change the offense for GG. Davis seems to do a great job of adjusting to the strengths of his QB’s. My hope is we really dedicate to the running game. This will protect the QB but also allow our OL to be more aggressive. We are going to be a passing team, but a more reliable run game will allow us to more easily attack down the field. Which bring’s us back to the line. I think they could the difference between a BCS bowl and Cotton Bowl. GG’s health and confidence are also likely on their shoulders as well. I choose to believe in our coaching staff. I think we will figure our a way to be successful with the pieces we have. You don’t win 10 games a year without figuring out how to overcome weaknesses.

"big-time players make big-time plays in big games."

by SoonerSlayer on Feb 8, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

We need a good TE

Note that we signed 0 TE’s in the stellar 2010 class. I was drooling watching David Thomas play for the Saints this year. IF we find a tight end that can run block during the spring the running game could improve next year. Tray Allen and David Snow could anchor a pretty good line if Huey and Hicks improve. I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Garrett Porter claims the left guard spot during the spring. Mason Walters is a big question mark going forward and is icing on the cake if he recovers.

Call me optomistic but if it’s Allen, Porter, Snow, Huey, Hicks and a TE, even if it’s a stronger and improved Greg Smith (entire line for that matter) working as a unit throughout the spring and summer then the OL has a chance to improve greatly, tight end blocking and building a cohesive unit being the keys. We lost Ulatoski, Tanner and Hall, none of them All Big 12 picks. That needs to change with this year’s group, MacWhorter gets to earn assistant of the year again.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 8, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Hall was an All-American

Granted, he might not have looked like it much of the year, but if making those picked teams is what counts, then (a) Hall’s AA selection is a big deal, and (b) OU would be better than Texas, since OU had more all-conference selections.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 9, 2010 7:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Tray Allen

After looking at how horrible the left side of the offensive line did last year with Tanner and Ulatouski I found it hard to believe that Tray Allen could not do better. By far a better athlete and a superior run blocker if you watch his film i think the trust factor between the coach and himself must not have been there. That being said it will be interesting to see how Tray and Britt Mitchell play this year. Very suprised that Kyle Hix is moving to LT as he is not as mobile. Shows that they will be running the ball a lot more this year. If Gilbert has to drop back and throw a lot i have a bad feeling his LT Hix will leave him in pretty bad shape. Nothing against Hix he is a good lineman I just dont know if he has what it takes to take on the superior pass rushers after seeing how he did this year at RT.

We will see what the former 5 star recruit has to offer when he steps on the field as a starter this year.

by fresh19 on Mar 4, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Garnett Smith...

man I wanted to see him play for us.

by Hippie Killer on Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM CST reply actions  

I was curious what you guys thought about what Mac McWhorter has been doing with the OL. I know he was top assistant in the country in 2008 but is he getting those guys as fired up as much as he could? Just saying since we have a fire and brimstone coach on defense..

by JMCG on Feb 8, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

It's really easy to turn on a coach sometimes

But that doesn’t mean it’s smart. Lots of people turn on and/or disparage Greg Davis, McWhorter, and other coaches. I’ve criticized both a lot, but really, I don’t think you get rid of guys like that unless you know there’s someone better, and you know you can bring him on board. I’m not convinced that’s the case with Davis, and I’m not familiar enough with possibly available OL coaches to identify one or two who would represent definite improvements over McWhorter. This isn’t like dumping a girlfriend or boyfriend, where one can simply choose to be single for a while, and maybe play the field a little. These are jobs that must be filled, without fail, or else the whole damn ship goes under.

by burntorangehorn on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

OL Talent vs. Scheme

So which is it really? Several have posted a lack of talent, and that seems to be GBR’s take (not putting words in your mouth btw). Others have posted it is due to scheme with the running meme during the season that Coach Davis’ series calling greatly impacts OL performance, or something to that affect (downhill blocking vs. zone, etc.).

It is probably some of both and more of the former, IMO. Our run offense has been crippled due to OL play/talent but also due to lack of 4/5 star backfield. Nothing against our RB’s but we are missing a good instinctive and consistent runner of the ball. But our OL could stand to have Gene Kelley foot transplants, if you get my drift.

So, 2010 will focus again on the running game. MB had some interesting things to say in last weeks presser regarding the current eval process, breaking down each run over the last 2 years. Quite the grad student project if you ask me. I hope this identifies the real culprit of the situation.

"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable." - Tom Landry

by TXStampede on Feb 8, 2010 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

I think it is a good bit of both. We hurt ourselves a lot with our scheme. Also, as has been pointed out by others, we’ve lost 3-4 highly regarded OL who would be RS-Soph or Jrs next year.

by UT_BKC on Feb 8, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably true, a bit of both

The personnel weren’t comfortable in the scheme. Wasn’t an immensely talented group as a whole, no all-Big 12 picks. Plus we hurt ourselves a lot with missed assignments. The guys didn’t work as a unit, it was a comedy of mental errors at times. Sure would like to hear the results of those film breakdowns.

"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Combination of all of it.

Hard to separate all the factors. The scheme is scattershot, Hall, Tanner, and Ulatoski didn’t have the mentality to be good linemen and didn’t seem to have much talent either and for some reason none of them ever had a prayer of blocking someone in space and would flop on the ground instead like a bunch of beached whales — there’s a lot of words I would use for them and none of them are appropriate for this space. Use your imagination. The whole combination results in a pathetic, inexcusable mess. It’s everyone’s fault who is associated, from Davis to Brown to McWhorter to the players. For the seniors on the line — good riddance. Hix, Huey, Allen, Snow — time to step up and grow some balls and have some pride.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 8, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Tray Allen

After looking at how horrible the left side of the offensive line did last year with Tanner and Ulatouski I found it hard to believe that Tray Allen could not do better. By far a better athlete and a superior run blocker if you watch his film i think the trust factor between the coach and himself must not have been there. That being said it will be interesting to see how Tray and Britt Mitchell play this year. Very suprised that Kyle Hix is moving to LT as he is not as mobile. Shows that they will be running the ball a lot more this year. If Gilbert has to drop back and throw a lot i have a bad feeling his LT Hix will leave him in pretty bad shape. Nothing against Hix he is a good lineman I just dont know if he has what it takes to take on the superior pass rushers after seeing how he did this year at RT.

We will see what the former 5 star recruit has to offer when he steps on the field as a starter this year.

by fresh19 on Mar 4, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

My suspicion on Coach McWhorter

is that if MB had felt the coach was the problem, he’d have made a change within two weeks of the Alabama game (remember Larry Mac Duff?). If the head coach felt it was talent limitations that led to the blocking problems, he couldn’t very well blame his line coach.

Hopefully, more skill and youthful enthusiasm more than make up for the departing experience at C, LG and LT.

by edsp on Feb 8, 2010 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

Agree in principle

Recent history does suggest that Mack would make a change and he may be waiting for the four guys recruited in 2009 to have an impact and for the 2007 recruits to have their chance to make an impact on the line. If things don’t get fixed this season, I think Brown has a conversation with McWhorter about how much longer he wants to be doing this.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 8, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent point

I wonder, too, if Mack is beginning to have second thoughts about the zone-blocking scheme. It hasn’t worked. Some decent backs have been rendered close to useless. We’ve squandered significant talent advantages by asking our big, strong, recruited and trained to be pass blockers in the O-line to try to be something they are not.

We’ve practically made the offense into “Win it for us, Colt, because we can’t run-block for you, and we can’t guarantee you much time in the pocket.”

With six freshmen in next year’s mix and just one senior the year after, this would be a good time to change the O-line’s blocking scheme.

by edsp on Feb 8, 2010 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't see a change in the scheme.

Some more man blocking might help things in terms of the overall mentality of the line, but I’m convinced at this point that the coaching of the scheme in place needs to improve, particularly in regards to less cut blocking in the open field and that if Texas could borrow Oregon’s scheme, for instance, and find plays that complement each other better, the coaches could mitigate the problems. Having a true tight end who can help in the passing game would help open up the running game, as would the insertion of a player like Barrett Matthews at H-back.

I just don’t see spread teams doing much other than zone blocking and the Longhorns will continue to be spread, I don’t think there is any question about that.

Going back and taking a more serious look at some direct snaps to a guy like DeMarco Cobbs could help the team significantly if the coaches can manage to do it correctly.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 9, 2010 6:57 AM CST up reply actions  

freshman lineman

more and more freshamn lineman are playing than ever before. christian westerman and flowers if they come here are more than good enough to play. use them like uf used xavier nixon as a backup but playing meaningful snaps

by tcuhorns on Feb 8, 2010 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

Redshirt year is preferable

unless they can provide major contributions. To me, playing freshman on the line is a last resort because it hurts their development so much and wastes a year of eligibility if they don’t play much.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Feb 8, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Orange bloods

just announced David Ash has commited

by B.A.J. on Feb 13, 2010 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

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