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Kansas Stands Tall, Downs Texas In Austin, 80-68

For the first time in seven regular seasons, the home team lost this game. Once again, we were awful in the first half, but more so than in previous slow starts, that had a lot to do with the opponent, too.

Obviously, the better team won tonight. My perceptions about Kansas as an offensive team were about right, but they are a much better defensive team than I had picked up on watching them here and there so far this year -- and I thought they were damn good heading in. They're also mature and cohesive in a way that surely made every Texas fan envious. Congratulations to them -- that's a damn good, damn well-coached basketball team.

A few notes:

  • For the most part, Texas played good defense tonight. But up until the last few minutes, Kansas played great defense. We make lots of little fundamental mistakes that Kansas just never made, all night long. For example, we often don't hedge properly and we take dumb fly-by gambles that lead to easy buckets. Kansas never did. Just rock solid.
  • Our offensive struggles also hurt us defensively by giving teams transition offense opportunities, preventing us from getting into set halfcourt defense. Part of a good defense is making buckets and forcing the opponent to inbound and score against your halfcourt D.
  • Offensively, we're absolutely terrible without a point guard who can break down a defense on his own. Lots of bad news there. But... a silver lining here, as J'Covan emerged from his funk and played truly great basketball in the second half tonight.
  • The "feed it to Pittman in position" strategy must, at this point, be considered a non-starter. He gave us a good effort tonight -- especially on defense -- but we need to be realistic about who we are offensively. Under Rick Barnes, we're an offense that requires perimeter players who can make offense. We don't really run offense.
  • Seems like every game a player or two steps up and gives us that "hey, there's reason to be hopeful" performance, but never twice in a row. Tonight's ray of hope, obviously, is from Brown, who we desperately need for his ability to create -- to make offense.
  • Xavier Henry was big for KU tonight. Such a physical, difficult to deal with player.
  • Along with running offense with a guard who can create, we've got to be efficient with turnovers and big on the boards -- what John Gasaway calls the "barrage factor" -- to be a good scoring team.
  • Losing today isn't the end of the world, but we're arriving at that point of the season where there's no more projecting hope. If it's going to come together, Texas will have to show it in the next four games -- protecting home court against Nebraska, winning a tough road game at Missouri, then beating Tech on the road and Okie State in Austin. Win those four and we can be excited again heading into College Station.

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I have to say

I was never really a big Damion James fan until this year. He’s clearly proven on the court how good of a player he is, but his effort level is off the chart (especially compared to some of his teammates).

I’m not trying to say this team doesn’t care, because I know that’s far from the truth, and not every player expresses themselves in the same way. But is it just me, or did we play with a ton more intensity for the last 5ish minutes than we have all year? At least, until the game was clearly 100% over.

I don’t know much about basketball, but I never get the sense we are trying that hard to create plays. It seems like its just run up and shoot on offense, and I won’t even try and talk defense, because I don’t know anything beyond the basics about it.

by Longhorn11 on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

The dribble drive offense that Brown led effectively tonight

only seems to work when Dex is out of the game. When Dex is out Gary can pull the opponent’s big to the top of the key and open up the paint for Brown’s drive. Do I have this wrong? I could swear Dex was out of the game while Brown was tearing it up

by feltgod on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah it was a high screen and roll every time

and if the big that was guarding Johnson switched to Brown, then J’covan would just line him up and go by him. That set got me really excited about the possibilites with J’Covan at the point.

by 2Cor12:9 on Feb 8, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

You are right. KU was doubling big to big on every post catch and Dex didn’t handle it very well. For that matter, Damion and Gary didn’t handle it well either. Both of them are undersized, though. Dex just look frustrated.

It is also worth mentioning for the 1,422 time, that Dex needs to be surrounded by shooters or there isn’t much point in him being on the floor.

Also, as you noted, our spacing is better and driving angles are more available for J’Covan and really for Damion too, when Dex is not in the paint.

Dex is still too valuable a weapon to write off. We just need to get him touches when he isn’t being guarded by his man, Damion’s and Dogus’s.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i’m guessing this has been covered, but does anyone else think big dex has not been the same since he rolled his ankle on that late dunk against UNC? TV showed the training staff working on it tonite…

by Class of Beef on Feb 9, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

We have always brought our A-game against Kansas in the Barnes era...

hopefully that wasn’t it. Any hope I had of righting the ship and making a NC run evaporated in that game. Hope they prove me wrong…

"But tonight the Superbowl belongs to the City of New Orleans" - Roger Goodell 2/7/2010

by SaintBevo on Feb 8, 2010 10:47 PM CST reply actions  

Damion is the man

He needs to give Dex and Hamilton a freaking slap for not running the floor hard. James never gives up…and NBA scouts know that.

by Dawnpatrol on Feb 8, 2010 10:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Longhorns fans should be excited about Jcovan

He was getting to the rack and getting high % shots, not making a bunch of flukes. Barnes had him guarding Morningstar I believe which was a great match up for Brown, but hopefully Brown can hang with some of the quicker 2s in the league and do it on both ends

by feltgod on Feb 8, 2010 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

But its also a match up problem on the other end.

Bringing the 5 out of the paint and allowing some room to drive in the middle.

Dex is just too stationary and it really clogs things in the lane.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me also say this

Texas has more problems then just dex

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

And the fact that we are stagnant on offense

They just stand there…

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 11:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree 100%

I will have some notes on the game a little later, watching it in person makes things so much more clear on why they are struggling…

Also if you see how Kansas moves the ball, its amazing.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

who the hell is going to play our 3?

share your thoughts cuz i have no options. if u put bradley there, tell me who ur 1 and 2 is.

by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Feb 8, 2010 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

you have to start hamilton

he is our last shooter available which is sad at this point, because he truly doesn’t deserve to start

by feltgod on Feb 8, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Jordan

showed me nothing tonight. The best thing he did was not shoot in the second half. Until his bball IQ improves exponentially, I can’t support him being in the starting lineup.

I actually like what Barnes did tonight to start—Gary for Mason. We went bigger and took a non shooter off the floor. I also like it when we press with our smaller lineup of Balbay, Bradley, Brown, James, and Johnson or when Balbay’s inability to shoot the ball starts huring too much, then we go Brown, Bradley, Hamilton, James, and either Gary/Dex.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Hamilton was awful tonight

My expectations have been tempered. He can contribute things, but he’s not anywhere close to a consistent enough basketball player to hinge anything on.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew that from the OSU game

As soon as he came into the game today he made a few bleah plays and I wanted him right back out again.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Feb 8, 2010 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

Ok State was fool’s gold. He has no concept of where his four teammates are on the court. No concept of what a good shot is and how he plus his teammates should work to get that shot. No concept of mismatches and how to exploit them.

And all of that is just a critque of his offense—by far his best skill set.

His defense is comical. I’ll leave it at that.

I keep writing this but I think it is important to keep brininging up. Hamilton didn’t play high school basketall last season. The rust is definitely there. He plays like you play when you are playing four on four at the park and you know that you’re the best player on the court. When that mentality changes, he’ll get there. For now, he’s not helping.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Jai Lucas

Watching him…I kept wondering why he is not even close to what he was as a freshman at Florida…. I wonder if the whole year off of basketball (game) could have the same affect on him…it is just crazy

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Brown, Hamilton, and Lucas all took years off last year

it’s safe to say everyone underestimated the impact of this.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 8, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

You think that will get better after a year?

Or is he a Damion James type guy that needs 4 years in college?

I think he will benefit from the rule of not allowing high school players in the draft anymore…he is a guy that goes for sure.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 11:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I was too busy typing to see that.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, see that now

Posted at same time.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

He can't dribble to his left

Known fact

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 8, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Back To School

If any BON poster thinks the 2009-2010 Texas Longhorn basketball team is winning anything but a first round game during March Madness I’d like to remind them of a quote by Rodney Dangerfield in the classic “Back To School” movie:

Dr. Barbay: That will be quite enough, Mr. Melon. Maybe bribes and kickbacks and Mafia payoffs are how you do business but they are not part of the legitimate business world and they’re certainly and they’re certainly not part of anything I’m teaching in this class. Do I make myself clear?

Mr: Melon: Sorry. Just trying to help. That’s all.
                   
Dr. Barbay: Now, notwithstanding Mr. Melon’s input the next question for us is where to build our factory.

Mr. Melon: How about Fantasyland?

Fact is this squad is beyond repair. No moral victory can be salvaged from tonight or the season. This team is too young and has proven it simply doesn’t have what it takes to learn from adversity. They were awesome before challenges hit, they don’t have it, continue to make the same mistakes, no amount of coaching, competent or not seems capable of guiding them to become a team. It is a collection of parts And it has been missing a crucial part since the 2008-2009 season: a legitimate point guard.

Sure, Balbay has his strengths, but not enough of them and not well-rounded enough to inspire fear from opponents. I half jokingly told other Longhorns I watched the game with tonight that Texas might as well forfeit the last seven games of the season, work on basics and hope they get good enough at free throws and unselfish play during the extended off-season to compete in 2010-2011. Half jokingly. Nah, they’ll maybe go .500 the rest of the season, MAYBE, grab an early round win (unless they fall to a 10-12 seed, more and more likely these days where they’re done in the first round) and be home for the first weekend of March Madness for sure.

They sky IS falling, the team IS done, I don’t give one rat’s butt about your homers who will call me a fair-weather fan or whatever, blah, blah, blah. If you go there you’re an freakin’ ostrich with ZERO credibility so I really won’t care about you!

Maybe next season, but the rest of the season is just practice for next year, just like football teams look forward to playing in the Independence Bowl. When expectations are low it doesn’t hurt as much, but this group of guys had so much more potential. It hurts to watch them suck so bad and make no attempt to improve. If they intentionally wanted to embarrass the program from national relevance these guys couldn’t do it better than they have done since January 1st, 2010. They really, really suck!!

by RMHorn on Feb 8, 2010 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

Now that you've obviously given up

See you next year?

Brown looked like a legit point guard tonight. Too bad it was just in one half. It’ll be interesting if you and greenspointexas show up here when we make the Sweet 16.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

You can give up,

but Barnes hasn’t, I guarantee you the players haven’t, and I haven’t either.

We are not playing well and the reasons are too long to list. The last three weeks have been tough, painful, disappointing, frustrating, and downright sad.

But no one should give up completely on a team in early February. No one should completely give up on a team that will still be in the NCAA tournament next month. No one should completely give up on a team that still has tons of talent and can beat anyone on a given night.

Just my take, though.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It's RMN's schtick

No need to respond.

I’m with you, though, Wiggo.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

At the risk of sounding cheezy...

I’m not a fan of giving up on my team(s), like, ever. Otherwise, what’s the point? I think there is a name for fans that support their team exclusively when times are good.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

by Infield Elephant on Feb 9, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Cinderella teams can go deep in the tournament

But a team as talented as Texas’ can’t? I understand your frustration; I’ve been frustrated enough to avoid posting here very much at all. And I would agree with you that the lofty expectations set in the first part of the season need to be duly tempered. However, the season isn’t done, and until it is, I’m not giving up on these guys.

by TheElusiveShadow on Feb 9, 2010 2:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Can, But Which Ones Do?

Yes, Cinderella’s can do wonders in the tourney. But the ones that do are either teams with only a few losses from small conferences that knew how to win, play as a team, just didn’t face a big conference schedule to get the respect of a higher seeding. Or they are teams from major conferences that struggled early season and then came on, went deep in their conference tourney, they peaked at the right time to carry them through.

I can’t remember a deep Cinderella that started strong in non-conference and then played their entire conference schedule terribly only to show up in the tourney. And make no doubt, while Texas is 5-4 in conference those five wins were pretty weak performances characterized by miserable starts, double-digit deficits, overall lousy team play for entire games, only raw individual talent accounting for W. Not tournament win kind of creds.

I have given up any expectation of good things out of this squad, the KU game was the dagger in my heart and head for the team. Yes, of course I still support them and if given the chance to catch them on TV I’ll certainly have it on in the background. They’re not good enough to devote 40 mins without distraction. But while I’m reading a book, working I’ll peek in like most people peek at car accidents on the side of the road, because that’s the same level of curiosity this team arouses out of me.

by RMHorn on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he was a starter after all

think of Justin Mason that can help us on offense.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 8, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Neither did the loss of Shawn Williams.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 8, 2010 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Few Quick Thoughts

Give KU credit. They are really, really good. They are balanced offensively and long and disruptive defensively.

PB, you nailed it with the turnovers. It is easy to ask where as our Nov/Dec defense has gone but it is equally important to point out that when you are not efficient offensively, your half court defense suffers. That is what happened tonight in the 22-0 run.

We took poor shots, coughed up the ball, and simply couldn’t buy a bucket. KU headed the other way in a hurry and that was more than enough for a team of KU’s caliber to win in Austin.

Give Texas credit too, though. They fought hard—especially J’Covan and Damion. Brown is starting to find himself and establish a floor presence. It is tough to have a freshman by the leader at point guard when you have two front court seniors. But basketball starts with the ball in a guard’s hands. If you don’t have a solid lead guard, life is going to be tough.

This was an incredibly tough seven game stretch and we did ourselves no favors with our play. We’re a pitiful 2-5 since assuming the No. 1 ranking. I thought 5-2 would have been huge and I even would have taken 4-2. But 2-5 was out of the realm of possibility.

Now, where are we? We are just 5-4 in conference and have three very tough (read probable losses) road games remaining (Missouri, A&M, and Baylor). That means the other four are essentially must wins—Nebraska, Ok State, and OU at home and at Tech. I never though I would be counting the ways to 9-7 in conference. Sad.

Last point, the crowd was bad tonight. I don’t mean that they didn’t cheer. I mean that 3-4k of them were KU fans. Pathetic. Listening to Rock Chalk, KU for the last couple of minutes of play was one of the low points ever at the Drum.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:09 PM CST reply actions  

Energy

The players didn’t have any (till the last few minutes), the fans didn’t have any (they honestly never do), and Rick Barnes sure doesn’t instigate any.

This team lacks a consistent vocal leader who can get the guys pumped up and call them out on their shit. After giving up the huge KU run towards the end of the half, the players walked off the floor for a timeout with their heads hung low. There was nobody coming off the floor or on the bench telling the rest of the team “we can do this!”. I think part of this is on Barnes. He just doesn’t know how to motivate sometimes.

The crowd, while they didn’t have too much to root for, was pathetic. I’m tired of going to the Drum and literally asking UT fans to stand up or even cheer during key possessions. AW is right, KU fans were in full force and were often times much louder than the UT “faithful” (although they did stand up when the football team came out at halftime). Sorry if I sound bitter. It’s just frustrating to have such a talented team at such a great school lack intense fan support.

This team can still turn things around and enter March with some momentum if they can start to fire on all cylinders. HOOK’EM

by roywilliamsisgod on Feb 8, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Energy

Is not the problem with this team. They’re trying. They’re failing for reasons that have nothing to do with wanting to do well.

The crowd, on the other hand… Well, that’s Texas.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Swagger, then?

I agree they are trying. Just something I noticed tonight (it was the first game I’ve been to this year) about their body language. It’s mental…like their FTs.

by roywilliamsisgod on Feb 8, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Energy may not be the right word, but I don't know if swagger is the key component missing.

Swagger is good and fun and can get all parties involved more excited, but what seems to be missing the most to me is the now-redundant concept of chemistry. I’m not talking about the guys going out for appletinis after the games. More so, a keen understanding of who each other is. In making an offense happen, you have to have an almost sixth sense sometimes about your team’s tendencies and strengths. While I think most of the guys struggle with this, Hamilton is an extreme example. He is paying virtually no attention to what is actually going on with the offense. For the sake of banging our heads against the wall some more, I will maintain that there is indeed a huge need for a guard that can make shit happen.

As PB mentioned above, there is no doubt that the guys are trying. However, in the spirit of “energy”, it would be nice to see some more chest bumps, high fives, butt slaps, etc. No one seems to be having fun and sometimes I can’t tell if they even like each other. Granted, there’s not a lot to be excited about lately,but they need to get over it (easy for me to say). I am tempted to mention Barnes and his seemingly lack of connection with this team, but I don’t want to go there.

Maybe the word is synergy, a favorite around the corporate world. Defined as The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual effects. Like them or not, the Cavs do this as well as anyone, and they seem win a whole lot.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

by Infield Elephant on Feb 9, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

it would be nice to see some more chest bumps, high fives, butt slaps, etc.

Something like this?

by gwh65 on Feb 9, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

exactly

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

by Infield Elephant on Feb 9, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Disappointed in the Football Team

The football team was emblematic of the crowd as a whole. UT blocked off roughly 100 seats, upper level mid-court for the Big XII champs. I have no problem with that. They were to be honored at halftime. However, after half, the football team disappeared. It didn’t appear that any of them returned to their seats. Eventually the ushers who were blocking off the seats gave up and 100 UT students who had been sitting in rows above, moved down.

If you’re going to save seats for football players to attend a basketball game, then we should at least expect them to stay and cheer for their fellow UT athletes. Otherwise let 100 other UT students into the game so that they can cheer from start to finish.

Poor showing by our boys.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea...

That was not very emotional….pretty weak if you ask me.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah so that's what that was for...

didn’t know what they were doing, it was completely empty. In the 2nd half they did open it up for students though

I thought crowd was as good as can be expected for being down 15-20 pts most of the game. Sat right next to the Jayhawk section and they had a few cheers going but overall we drowned them out. Especially when they were on offense. The standard “go horns go” cheer when we are on offense is kinda weak and never gets anybody going.

by skithebert on Feb 9, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said

And that was the other big positive tonight — the guy’s aren’t losing because they’re not fighting. Struggling? Sure. But they’re fighting. I respect them.

God help us if we lose to Nebraska, but assuming we can pull that one out, I’ll be eager to see how we play at Missouri — a team that loves to run, doesn’t play much defense, and would be glad to play fast and loose, which might be of some help to us. We’ll see. The Tigers are good.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Nebraska?

Aren’t they one of the “lesser” teams in the conference?

Throw Ya Horns, Mayne

by texasboi01 on Feb 9, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Beating them is simply a minimum. The key to the two I cited was winning in Columbia. If we win on the road at Missouri, that’s huge.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 9, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

KU

Frankly, I was expecting more. Especially from Aldridge whose main skill seems to be bludgeoning people without get called for it. Maybe they let up when they saw us collapse and decided to keep something back for later. I saw good team play, but also poor ball handling. That said, they were clearly the better team tonight. But I’d still like another shot at them.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 8, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i was not there to help as i live in santa fe now but re:

crowd…what did the team do to incite the crowd tonite? the horns strung together no meaningful series of plays which is what you need to ignite a crowd. no emphatic dunks, practically no stops on d with a quick score on the other end. 11-min scoring drought in 1st half?? tuuurible. the crowd was ready to respond to anything positive – did not happen save for that one glimmer late when we had the ball down 8 (prompt brown turnover put the kibosh down hard).

there is no better crowd than the pit in abq but when i was there cheering them on against unlv earlier this year (1st home loss this year) no matter how hard the crowd tried to will the team it just didn’t happen. tonite for the horns = same thing. erwin center crowd is usually poor but tonite you gotta blame the team and credit ku for some $%##$% 2nd (and 3rd)-chance conversions and some good defense.

i still feel this team is gonna be hungry like a wolf after a cold winter stretch come march. fear a hungry wolf cause we got nothing to lose. hook em.

by Class of Beef on Feb 9, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

That was...

…the weirdest I’ve ever felt yelling at a basketball game.

The crowd was hot early, then got absolutely shellshocked by the 22-0 run. It’s hard to sustain any cheering when a team scores 14 points in 14 minutes, cannot handle the double-teams down low, and the other team is getting much better looks at the basket. During most of the second half, I was feeling numb by the sustained beating and inability to get within 10 points.

I dont think you can really blame the crowd for this one…

by txtwstr7 on Feb 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding

When you play a quarter of the game without putting up a point, in basketball, is it really the crowds fault for going silent?

by BoddickerIsClutch on Feb 9, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

a few things

1. that dribble, jump, and pass crap has to stop every time, if people know you’re not shooting
they prepare for the pass

2. shoot the damn, it was like nobody really wanted to shoot

3. kansas runs really good offensive sets, i saw some princeton back cut offense to open up the half, and the first half was all dribble drive kick out

4. we need avery to step it up in a big way

5. oy that was frustrating to watch

by abcdmetrius on Feb 8, 2010 11:18 PM CST reply actions  

Bradley

Really, what the hell is wrong with this kid? He seems lost out there.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 9, 2010 12:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Disagree

Bradley is a solid contributor night in and night out. His defense is great and when his shot is falling he’s near impossible to guard. He played fine against KU, missing a few open shots, but that happens. Hamilton on the other hand…

by feltgod on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Look at his stat line for last night and say that again

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 9, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I take a long range view on AB

over the course of the season, he has been efficient. You could argue he is our best 3 point shooter and 2nd best on ball defender.

by feltgod on Feb 9, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He was very tentative last night.

I can’t remember how many times he picked up his dribble outside of the 3-pt line for no reason. Also, he was not ready to shoot with any confidence. This is really the first time he seemed shell shocked by “big stage”, as they call it.

by horns129 on Feb 9, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

fundamental issues

"Yeah, I think their best offensive team can’t guard anybody. Their best defensive team can’t score." -Doug Gottlieb

(copied from Bevo Beat – statesman)

so true… Also this team really needs steals and fast breaks to get into a rhythm offensively.

by SelimSivad on Feb 8, 2010 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

Bench

Our bench was paricularly awful tonight. The 22-0 run was the dagger but that was certainly aided by the presence of certain subs.

Wangmene entered the game and was playing the wrong defense. He played man on Aldrich; the rest of the team was playing a 2-3 zone. The ball went to the high post, Wangmene slid over too late, and KU went to the foul line.

Chapman gave us nothing. The charge was questionable but still.

Jai Lucas hasn’t shown me the ability to play at this level. You can’t be small and slow. You can be small and quick, ala Sherron Collins. Or you can have good guard size and not be quick, ala thousands of Div 1 guards. But you can’t be small and slow and that is what Lucas is. Ball screens with Lucas are incapabale of working. Defenses hedge and he can’t turn the corner or see over the defense. I’d love to see tape from his freshman year cause I haven’t seen anything yet to indicate that he can play at this level.

--AW--

by awiggo on Feb 8, 2010 11:28 PM CST reply actions  

Miserable

Will write a post on this sometime in the next day or three. It’s ironic, really — all that crowing about depth in November and December, and as we find ourselves scraping and needing a rally down the stretch, the key is trying to make things work with the 6 or 7 guys that can justifiably claim minutes.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 8, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah we overrated Lucas for sure

Hard to believe he was a 4-star recruit.

I think with Pittman on the floor, he does have value as a 3 point threat. Yep, he’s in the territory of J.D. Lewis at this point.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 8, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really surprised by the lack of pop off the bench.

We knew our non-stars had warts all along. They are just uglier warts now that Dexter/Dogus/ Hamilton and Mason are all struggling on offense.

by feltgod on Feb 9, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Minor observation on Brown

seemed like he actually jumped on the jumpers he made. He’s been attempting his spot-up shots with little to no elevation – essentially flat-footed.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 8, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, that was her. Big chest, small waist. Pretty and seductive face… Makes me miss campus even more.

by UT_BKC on Feb 9, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

That is not a real person.

Probably a robot. With lasers.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

by Infield Elephant on Feb 9, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel ya

Been away for three years and it’s ripping out my soul. Back in May, thank God. Never leaving again.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 9, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Do we have a “BON Member Swim Suit Picture” section? If not, start one.

by UT_BKC on Feb 9, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

To me, we no longer have depth. All we have is James, Pittman, Bradley, Brown, Johnson and Hamilton.

Chapman – sucks. He’s so uncoordinated out there, it’s ridiculous.

Wagmene – Can’t do much. Sure he has a body and can throw it around, but that’s about it.

Balbay – I know you hustle. You play great defense, but you are such an offensive liability that we just cannot have out there anymore. Opponents sag on you and it kills every offensive possession especially with Pittman on the court. I used to think differently about you…I used to think you were the key to our success but now I’m not so sure.

Lucas – Yes you have a sweet stroke. But as a PG, you cannot penetrate. You cannot create separation and you are just too tiny. You are more likely to turn the ball over than to do anything positive for us.

Hill – see Chapman.

Mason – dude, you hustle and you have great athletic ability but you almost as bad as Balbay on offense. I actually think you have some game finishing at the rim, but most of the time you see so hesitant to drive to the bucket .

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 8, 2010 11:58 PM CST reply actions  

Sorry for the errors in writing. Jameson and Coors (a lot of them) got me through the headache of a night.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 8, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree 100%

Was thinking the same thing…our bench is not what we thought it was.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Lucas @ the 2 even possible?

If we HAD to get the kid minutes he shouldn’t play the 1. He can’t penetrate and we run too many ball screens 4 that to happen and work. If the kid can shoot the ball we should put him on the floor so sexy dexy has someone to kcik to instead of balbay or the other team. That’s the only place I would like to see him play in a last ditch effort to get him minutes. Ofcourse, we would play 2-3 zone with him I guess

by ibleedburntorange49-9 on Feb 9, 2010 12:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Abrahms all over again

That is what I feel like…I hope he can come back next season and be a real player!

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Whats with everyone ragging on Abrams all of the sudden?

A) Abrams was a fantastic player with limitations. Your typical collegiate player. If hes 5" taller hes an NBA-er ala Booby.

B) He was quicker than Lucas (always), and played better D than Lucas (at least his senior year).

C) He was a lights-fucking-out shooter. He couldn’t create on his own, but the man could shoot. Pick and Pop was money, as shown by him being the best 3 point shooter in Texas history.

D) Its not Abram’s fault we flailed on offense at times, people forget that last years team was even more scoring challenged than this years. We had all the pieces we have now, but no Brown, no Bradley, no Hamilton (and dont give me Ward, he came on strong at the end, but was a Mason-like wasteland of offense during most of the season). Watch that OU/UT game from last year and tell me Abrams was not a real player.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Feb 9, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Abrams

He could get his shot off so fast he did not need much room and time. Lucas’ release is not that fast.

In a motion offense he would have scored a lot more.

by IUTex on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Not ragging on him

He brought some good things to the team, and made me happy a lot!

But, if Lucas was 5" taller, would he be a much better NBA prospect? Yes

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

You could say that about anyone.

If Lucas had 5" yes he’d be a better prospect, he still wouldn’t be an NBA player. Abrams would.

Abrams was a better player than Lucas, and from what we have seen, will always be a better player than Lucas. Id love for Lucas to be as good as Abrams, hes not even close at the moment.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Feb 9, 2010 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you

Lucas and Abrahms remind me other the same person though, I would have abrahms any day over Lucas.

- Both Short
-Both good shooters (Edge to abrahms no doubt)
- Both are a liability on defense
- Both have problems throwing a pass over the top in a double team.

That is all

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

After the game

James said this, “This is the worst we’re going to play. I know that. Once we get back on that hill, its going to be great”

Have to love the senior!!

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 AM CST reply actions  

He's all we got man. 100% effort every time.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 9, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

You are right

He was our only offense for the first 30 minutes of the game…Brown was our only offense the last 15 minutes…

James will always be on of my all time favorites

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

We suck now I will agree

but do you honestly think this team does not have the talent to come “baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack”? No matter our seed would you want to play us?

by IbleedBurntorange on Feb 9, 2010 1:17 AM CST reply actions  

You guiys have the same problem you had last year, no PG. On the bright side, you still play hard on defense. As long as you can play defense you are going to have a chance. KU was the first team I have seen in a long while that can match up with you. Noticed a lot of balls that were up for grabs, ended up in the hands of KU tonight. Some of that was luck, some hustle. Refs definitely let them play down low on both ends.
Still do not understand why y’all did not put Pittman on the floor when Aldrich was out with foul trouble. Seems to me that when Gary plays well your entire team plays well. I think Rick Barnes is a hell of a coach, but I thought KU looked like a much more well coached team. Second year in a row y’all come out on fire, peak too early and then peter off as the season goes along. I really do not understand why you guys didn’t have Balbay shooting 500 3-pointers per day in the offseason so he could be a threat on the offensive end.

Play defense like you did tonight in all your remaining games, and you probably end up 10-6. Interesting that y’all really struggle with teams with deep front courts like BU and KU. I would think with your length, those are the teams you would really shine against. Still think y’all have the most talent of any team in the country.

by miketag on Feb 9, 2010 1:55 AM CST reply actions  

I'm more positive

now than I was last week. The main reason is Barnes recognizes that we have big problems. At first he seemed to not want to acknowledge them. Now we see Mason and Balbay’s minutes shrinking. We see Brown running the point well. He has to get more consistent, but he gives us the best chance to succeed on offense. He is showing signs. Balbay and Mason should be spot players. Leave them on the bench unless a player get’s hot on the opposition. I’m most concerned now with our post play. James is all we have. I have been hoping Pittman is something he is not. He is a nice player with the potential to exploit mismatches. What he is not is a guy you can run your offense through.\This team plays hard. That is what gives me hope going forward. There is no reason why we can’t turn this thing around.

"big-time players make big-time plays in big games."

by SoonerSlayer on Feb 9, 2010 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

Bradley

Coach Barnes has to find a way to get AB involved in the offense. He’s essentially standing in one spot waiting for the ball and he rarely touches it on offense. He has to be the guy that steps up, but within the current offensive strategy, it’s not gonna happen.

by the1austin on Feb 9, 2010 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Agree, we need to ISO Bradley more in space

he is effective at getting to the rack and can finish if we get Dex out of the way.

by feltgod on Feb 9, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

All things considered...

Given our January/ Februaru free-fall, I thought the crowd last night started really good. Everyone was in their seats at tip off, which was a first. Very loud until the 11 minute scoring drought. We were up 6, then down 16.

By the time we scored at two minutes left in the half there really wasnt a whole lot to cheer about.

by the other Andrew on Feb 9, 2010 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

Motionless Offense

General thoughts from the Drum last night:

• Barnes has lost this team. They have given up on him and he has given up on them
• As stated on ESPN radio (versus the homers over at 1300) this morning, the Motionless Offense Barnes runs is not new, so there should be no surprise to its stagnant nature, the issue is that we are totally dependent on a NBA caliber PG to run the show. Without it we are 4 guys standing around while one guy dribbles around circles and an occasional guy steps up with a half hearted pick and roll. Our offense is designed to allow future NBA stars to show their stuff, it is not designed so create an offensive engine that is far better than the sum of it’s the parts. Watch other top teams, they move the ball and as soon as there is the slightest defensive mistake, the ball rotates around for an open shot. It is a real thing of beauty when it works, our offense is just plain ugly.
• Pittman is novelty and not a big time player. But once again, if he played on a team with an offensive purpose and movement he could be very effective. He whines and is not mentally tough. I believe the coaches all realize they can push him around early and make him a mental basket case. As a team we telegraph when we are going to Pittman, we might as well put up a big sign announcing our intentions
• When we have movement it is random and without purpose.

What should we do:
• I love Dogus Balbay and been a proponent of his playing time, but based on sticking with the Motionless Offense we have no choice but to bet heavily on J’Covan Brown.
• I am not sure what to do with Jordan Hamilton, he seems so lost. Once again, if we ran a structured offense he might understand his role and what he is supposed to do, but right now he has no clue. I have never seem a player of this talent look so awkward on court
• You got to love James, I feel bad for him. At least he has a basketball career beyond Texas. He has really stepped up but the Power Forward cannot do it alone
• Jai Lucas is a bust, do not play him
• Gary Johnson can be a black hole, but he goes to the hoop strong and is not intimidated or ratted by the defense.
• I like Bradley, but he is not having fun out there and seems a little frustrated and without purpose
• I would go with J’Covan, Bradley, James, Johnson and (not sure, I would like to say give Hamilton a shot and see if he can settle into a flow, but I really am not sure)

by IUTex on Feb 9, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

Same here.

The last few minutes of the game really showed the coach and team’s collective mentality. Fans all over the mezzanine were calling for us to give up when down 9 with around 30 seconds left, but Barnes does not and would not. Loved it. He’s shown this several times, proving he believes the team can again reach the level of play from early this season.

by horns129 on Feb 9, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Luke Winn on UT's offense
The Longhorns’ All-America power forward stopped there, only implying the rest: For the past few weeks, his team has had little-to-no idea what it’s looking for on offense. They look for James, who played like the All-America candidate he is on Monday, scoring 24 points on 8-of-13 shooting, but as a whole they have no flow, no purpose, no direction. They’ve long been called the nation’s deepest team, and yet the five guards who saw minutes against KU combined for all of two assists. Depth isn’t an asset when everyone in your backcourt is struggling.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/luke_winn/02/09/kansas.texas/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0f3dK2tVF

by the1austin on Feb 9, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

I shudder to think of where this team would be without Damion.

It seems to me that he is the only player who, taking for granted his obvious physical gifts and basketball talent, can be counted on to contribute at a high level game in and game out. But the real factor that sets him apart is the sheer dint of his effort and desire . No one else comes close. Who will fill that void next year?

I'll never forget ol' what's-his-name.

by Horntod on Feb 9, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

loose balls

Anybody besides me concerned with the Horns lack of effort in recovery of loose balls?Too much reaching instead of hitting the floor or at least committing to the idea of recovery.

by hunghorn on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Also balls fumbled out of bounds

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 9, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

At least we shot 74% from the line

mainly because of J’Covan Brown’s 8-9. That is also a positive. I did not see Brown as someone that could shoot almost 10 free throws a game. I’d like him to try to draw more contact in the paint rather than attempting those floaters that don’t seem to work most of the time.

Johnson needs to do better than 4-7 FT. 4-6 from James is what I expect at this point.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 9, 2010 11:30 AM CST reply actions  

Possibly good news, Brown starting over Balbay?

http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/3560/texas-lacked-cohesion-in-another-loss

Barnes said he had a hard time taking a senior like Mason out of the lineup because of what he has meant to the team. Barnes went back and forth on Brown. He said for all of Brown’s positives, there were still too many steps back. Yet, he hinted Brown will start over Balbay when the Longhorns play Nebraska Saturday in Austin.

by goingforthecorner on Feb 9, 2010 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

Not enough to start Brown

Barnes also needs to make it clear that Brown will run the offense.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Feb 9, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Brown will start Saturday

Count on it. Rick knows we’ve crossed into do or die territory. If we’re going down, I expect it will be fully swinging.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 9, 2010 12:20 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone notice this girl last night?

http://deadspin.com/5467703/the-curious-case-of-longhorn-girl/gallery/

I mentioned her in the comments during the game last night. I knew I could count on a deadspin reader to make good with pictures.

Was she strategically placed there to act as a (pair of) distraction(s)? Lane Kiffin approves.

3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Feb 9, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

She does seem to be on her own in the stands. Do concert rules apply, where security will move attractive women up to the stage? Was this an ESPN thing?

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

by Infield Elephant on Feb 9, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately the strategy didn't work.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Feb 9, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

If she's a package deal with Rick Barnes I say give the man an extension!

3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Feb 9, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

So much to work with there…

by UT_BKC on Feb 9, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd!

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Feb 9, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Good eye.

Get her into one of those chaps uniforms and the game would come to a stand still.

Rick Barnes Sucks

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by BigDD on Feb 10, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Moving Forward

Now that I have the taste of puke from last night out of my mouth, here’s what has to happen. I think we’ve all seen enough of this garbage, and last night proved some positives.

Here’s the starting five from the point on:

1. Brown
2. Bradley
3. Johnson
4. James
5. Pittman

Bench: Balbay, Mason, Chapman

Give the ball to Brown and say it’s your team to lead/run. He’s quick and athletic enough, and he can create his own offense when needed. You run the high pick/screen with Johnson who pulls his big away. This gives Brown the chance to break down the defense in the paint, and when Dex’s man comes off to help, he can dish to Dex. If not, Brown can shoot it himself or take it all the way to the rack.

You can mix it up by running the high pick/screen with James, who also will bring a big up top, however, you have the added option of letting James rub off after he sets the screen and get the ball back from Brown for a good looking jump shot.

Bradley is more suited for the off-guard position where he can run through the baseline screens and play off them. Basically, you can use him the same way they used Abrams for several years, only Bradley is big and athletic enough to drive if the man gets through the screen and stays with him. Abrams never was.

You can bring in Balbay and Mason for defensive effort and to help spell Brown, Bradley, and Johnson. However, you never, under any circumstances, have them on the court at the same time. Dogus never has been able to shoot. And Mason is now shooting under 20% for the past couple of weeks. You can live with one offensive suck hole, but you can’t survive with two at the same time.

Chapman is my first reserve off the bench for the bigs. He always plays hard, gives great effort, rebounds, can give you about 5-8pts. per game in reserve, and isn’t afraid to mix it up inside and lay some fouls if need be. That could help keep Sexy Dexy out of foul trouble as well.

Finally, Hamilton can no longer be in the rotation. Yes, we all know the Ok. State game. But he’s never met a shot he hasn’t liked, and he doesn’t know the meaning of the word pass. You can’t kill his confidence however. So if I’m Barnes, I tell him that he’s out of the rotation, for now, but that he has a chance to play his way back in. Then I assign one asst. coach to him and have them work with him on court, and in the film room, to help him learn what is a good shot within the offense, and what isn’t.

Quite frankly what he needs to learn is how to play a two-man game with one of our bigs. The thing he was doing the best in that Ok. State game was setting his feet and dropping good-look jumpers. If he can figure out how to dump it to the big man inside, then spot up, receive the pass back and shoot without thinking about driving or hesitating, he could be absolutely deadly. Not to mention, he would have a height advantage for easier entry passes to Dexter.

Can you imagine if Hamilton were dumping to Dexter, then sliding to the middle wing area to spot up, and Dexter would send it right back out as soon as he received the double-teams he was getting all night long last night? Hamilton for a clean look jumper with his feet set? Good night now!

by Jericles on Feb 9, 2010 10:22 PM CST reply actions  

Starting 5

OK. Your starting 5 is alright. I like it.

Also, quite often, I would like to your 5 plus a change up of Brown replaced at point by Bradley and Hamilton moved into the shooting guard spot. This gives us some more length. All Barnes has to do is whip Hamilton into taking decent shots. Maybe run some plays for him or just any plays really other than school yard offense. Then let Pitt box out the middle while Johnson and James do a flyby for the offensive boards.

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http://barnessucks.blogspot.com

by BigDD on Feb 10, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The team is underperforming because of coach Rick Barnes

I have a blog for bashing on Rick Barnes. It is helping me to vent my rage while also providing me with a side goal of having Google post my site in the number 1 position when the phrase “rick barnes sucks” is searched.

Rick Barnes Sucks

My blogs and sites:
http://barnessucks.blogspot.com

by BigDD on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

If you spam the site one more time

With ads for your blog, you’ll be banned. Final warning.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Feb 10, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Team is also put together

With huge expectations BECAUSE of barnes and his recruiting. Close ur site, only delusional aggies and sooners along with ur occasional bandwagon Texas fans who don’t know wat they’re talking about

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