Shall we start a firerickbarnes.com website
It appears a number one ranking during the season is all we can expect from Rick. Texas loses in the 2nd round this year. Great talent and they look clueless. Time for a change? I don't know enough about why Texas is loosing but the coaching seems too lost. Why didn't they get Bradley open to shoot and why couldnt Pitmann find an open player to throw out to when triple covered. Why?
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As you can see, I doubt this thread will go very far. We're not there yet.
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NEVER!!!
come on what was Texas basketball before Rick came here? remember when we all wanted to fire Mack Brown because he lost like 5? straight to Zero U. The team is in a slump and College basketball is all about the Tournament!. How many sweet 16 have we made under Rick?
Yes!
I just wanted to be different.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
What exactly is Texas loosing?
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
by Hopkins Horn on Feb 9, 2010 12:44 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Not No but Hell No!!!
With that said I would not mind seeing Rick get himself a very good offensive minded assistant. As far as recruting, defense (most of the time) and building a program he has done a awesome job! Texas basketball under Rick has done things I never thought I would see in my lifetime. I am as down and disapointed with this team right now as anyone. All in all though I am atleast glad I have such high expectations. For the record I still think this team can and will get this thing turned around. Really who in their right mind would want to play us come March?
by IbleedBurntorange on Feb 9, 2010 12:46 AM CST reply actions
This year is starting to look alot like Abe Lemon's final year
He opened the ‘81-’82 season with a 14-0 record and the Longhorn’s highest (#4) ranking ever….8 days after the season he was fired by brand new AD Deloss Dodds.
"Hell, No. I'm not going to candy this thing up. These are work clothes." -Darrell Royal
Two words: Bob Weltlich . . .
. . . for those who want to fire a very successful coach after a poor seven-game stretch.
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
by Hopkins Horn on Feb 9, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
Two more words: Mike Wacker
Lemons lost Wacker for the year, tantamount to losing Dexter Pittman or more like losing Damion James in terms of ability, then went into a public funk and threw in the towel as the team tanked the rest of the way. It was not that he lost, it was the way he lost. It was a controversial but necessary move by Dodds that began a string of bad hires including Weltlich and Tom Penders in basketball along with David McWilliams and John Mackovic in football. Lemons was immensely popular and funny, Dodds was not.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 9, 2010 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
Firing Barnes would be incredibly stupid.
Yeah, it’s kinda weird that our basketball fans are acting like they’re Kentucky, Indiana, or UCLA fans, as if we have that kinda pedigree, but it’s pretty childish to want to get rid of a guy that is the reason why UT is now among the upper echelon of college basketball teams, talent producers, and tournament performers.
On another note, there’s no way Penders could be classified as a bad hire at UT. The dude brought ‘em back from the dead, went to the Sweet 16 almost every year, and recruited solidly during the same years as Arkansas’ great teams, among others. Just because he went a little arrogant & crazy his last year (the original Mike Leach), doesn’t mean he didn’t do the program wonders. One of the few ‘yankees’ I’ve ever liked.
Not a bad hire
But you’re exaggerating his accomplishments. He was a slightly above average coach. A good get to get out us out of the Dark Ages, but a truly limited coach in the way we hear some people try to talk about Rick Barnes right now, as in, “Should we aim to do better?”
With Barnes the answer is no. With Penders, it was clearly yes, even before his Axtell issues.
You ain't hurt...
You're comparing
two different eras. Penders coached during the slow demise of the SWC which was probably equivalent to the A-10 in hoops while he was there. Barnes is coaching during the golden age of Texas athletics when the Texas brand has probably never burned brighter.
If Penders had coached in the prime of his career (85-95) with the resources and support Texas basketball has now in a conference like the Big XII, I firmly believe his accomplishments would be similar to Barnes.
you mean Bob Butlich?
don’t you?
"Hell, No. I'm not going to candy this thing up. These are work clothes." -Darrell Royal
Was that a reply to me?
If so, I did mean Bob Weltlich — the coach who led us into the wastelands of mediocrity after Lemons was canned.
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
by Hopkins Horn on Feb 9, 2010 12:53 AM CST up reply actions
Ah, I get it now . . .
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
Can we start a BanJrusso72.com website?
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
We need to put BON under a Sever Chicken Little Alert
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
new proposal
www.jordanhamiltonshouldpasstheball.com or www.votetoremovefreethrowsfromcollegebasketball.com
i think both of these causes would serve us better than firing our esteemed Rick Barnes. Proud of the 2nd half effort tonight, got in a hole early but didn’t give up.
Thank you Lothor!
That gave me a good laugh this morning. Couldn’t of said it any better myself.
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Feb 9, 2010 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
Your links don't work
I was going to sign the petition.
Watching Kansas run their offense was a thing of beauty. Only if Barnes can copy some of the plays. We just need to be more active without the ball.
Crazy
It’s the same answer I gave to those that wanted to fire Mack. Who are you going to replace them with? Be careful what you wish for. I’m 32 years old. The first 20 years of my life Texas was not very good at football or basketball. Each team had some good years but nothing like the excellence we enjoy now. So I am not interested in changing anything.
"big-time players make big-time plays in big games."
Do Not Fire Rick Barnes
Is it possible he has become a victim of his own success? Insane fan base expectations aside, Coach Barnes has to deal with a team of players who almost all have (realistic) NBA aspirations and have been treated like superstars since junior high age (or younger). That is a lot of egotistical/talented youngsters gathered together in cooler-than-thou, act-like-you’ve-been-here-before Austin for Coach Barnes to coalesce into a team. I am not excusing what appears to be questionable coaching decisions at times and his apparent lack of ability to motivate his charges when necessary; I am saying that being an amazingly successful recruiter for arguably the highest profile sports university in the nation equals really super-hard difficult job where anything less than an undefeated national championship team every single year is perceived as sucking. Would y’all rather we hire a lesser coach so we could all mellow out and lower our expectations?
Free Throw? Right On!
Bad idea
I say it’s the Drum. Tear it down!
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
No.
I think going to #1 set the bar way too high too early.
Wonderful suggestion
I don’t know enough about why Texas is loosing.
This is a good start. We all know exactly where we stand. Now I think I’ll go watch Oprah.
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 9, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions
It was a question, not a statement
I’m surprised that asking a question about looking at the leadership of the program brought such harsh sentiments. I admittedly no less about basketball then 99% of the writers on this blog. The reason I posed the question is there have been so many improvements funded for the program along with him bringing in marquee players each year makes me wonder why we are losing. (Losing to KU is understandable – but not to BU, OU, and an unranked UConn) Clearly, making a change at the top of the program seems to be against the sentiments of everyone. But with mostly conclusionary answers, I still don’t have an idea why the heat shouldn’t be on Rick. The comparison’s to Mack are interesting. Remember, Mack fired his defensive coordinator and brought in Robinson and Toomey that he admittedly learned from. Can you do something like that in basketball? One previous writer mentioned a offense coach. My final thought: why has Calipari been so successful in one year at Kansas with an equivalent recruiting class and fewer leftovers?
I'm assuming you meant Kentucky...
and there are several reasons why. He has 4 potential top 15 picks, in this year’s draft, two of which are point guards, and another being one of the best centers in the country. We all know how important PG’s are in college, and he has two of the best.
Also, he’s playing in the SEC, which is no where near as good or deep as the Big12 this year.
You are correct I meant Kentucky
Thoughtful analysis. Any thoughts on why we can’t get Brown or Lucas to step up their game? Or, why Hamilton is not progressing(OSU excluded)?
To be fair
the title ‘Shall we start a firerickbarnes.com website’ seems to imply starting a movement to remove Barnes. We’ve experienced times much worse than those we’re experiencing with Rick Barnes right now. We’ve been in one final 4, two elite 8’s and two sweet 16’s in the last eight years. The current team is 19-5 without a true point guard or a center that isn’t still a ‘project’.
Abe Lemons once began his weekly tv show by rising out of a casket dressed in black holding a flower and proclaiming ’We’re not dead yet’ after a conference loss that seemingly made the title hopeless. Texas went on to share the conference title with Arkansas that year. Not saying that will happen this year, the weaknesses at point and center are glaring. Barnes may have to coin another Lemons adage, “Doctors bury their mistakes, but mine are still on scholarship.”
"If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em"- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
No.
The fact that there are this many fans in full meltdown mode because of a ranked Texas is a testament to what Rick Barnes has done.
proud to swim home
Let me see if I can explain
Around BON land, we have a lot of folks who were previously high on football team and then crushed by the Rose Bowl loss. So they moved over to basketball to get their fix. And now they are crashing and starting to go into withdrawal.
All I can say is hang in there, guys, baseball is almost here.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Jrusso72, we should definitely
not fire Rick Barnes. But let me give you 2 recommendations:
1. Buy the domain name and keep it in a drawer. It’s a good business decision.
2. Make a list of names of all the previous posters on this thread for future use…trust me.
future use
such a list won’t be useful other than to say we were right because the Horns will never win a championship under coach Barnes.
My blogs and sites:
http://barnessucks.blogspot.com
We've won three conference titles under Barnes
Now go away. Post on your site. Leave the grown ups alone.
You ain't hurt...
3 conf titles with that kind of talent?
How many big 12 tournaments did the horns win under barnes? Let me help you none. And oh, yeah, he got them to the second round when he had DJ Augustine and Kevin Durant… Barnes is like 18-16 lifetime. oh well, he Rick Barnes Sucks. We all know that.
My blogs and sites:
http://barnessucks.blogspot.com
We all know that.
i don’t think you know what that means.
by vy til i die on Feb 15, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
Hell NO!!
Thats crazy talk. We’re lucky to have Barnes!
by LonghornForLife on Feb 10, 2010 1:10 AM CST reply actions
LonghornForLife
IT is the other teams in the big 12 that are luck we have Barnes.
Rick Barnes Sucks
My blogs and sites:
http://barnessucks.blogspot.com
WE should. I have a blog set up to help me vent.
My blogs and sites:
http://barnessucks.blogspot.com
Have fun on your playground
"Texas played without its best player for nearly 56 minutes. There's an asterisk." -- Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com
by Hopkins Horn on Feb 10, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions

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