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Longhorns Bounced from Big 12 Tourney by Baylor

Third time is far from a charm. For the fourth straight game and the third this season alone, the Baylor Bears handled the Texas Longhorns. This time, Baylor ran away from Texas in the second half and coasted to a 86-67 victory.

No. 3 seed Baylor advances to take on No. 2 seed Kansas State tomorrow evening, while Texas now heads back to Austin and awaits their NCAA destination.

Given the struggles of Bubble teams in other conference tournaments, I don't see Texas's projected seed falling. The Longhorns are probably staring at a 7 or 8 seed in the NCAA tournament. I'll have my fingers crossed for a No. 6 seed but that is a longshot at this point.

First let's give Baylor their due. Scott Drew's club is a solid one. LaceDarius Dunn and Tweety Carter stand up well against any backcourt in the country; Ekpe Udoh is a difference maker on both ends; and overall, the Bears are very efficient. Baylor is going to be a tough out in the NCAA tournament.

All that said, this was another disappointing game for the ‘Horns. Other than some of the first half and a brief run in the second, Baylor took care of Texas with ease. Texas struggled to shut down Dunn and Carter, got schooled on the low block by Udoh, and failed to get back in transition or provide sufficient help-side defense to slow down the Baylor attack. It's hard to win against anyone when you give up 86 points.

If the defense doesn't get better by this time next week, the 'Horns will be bounced early, regardless of their seed or their opponent.

In addition to the play on the court being frustrating, I do not understand some of the personnel decisions either. J'Covan Brown didn't play until the second half. Last night he played just three minutes. Jordan Hamilton after producing in the first half, doesn't play or barely plays in the second.  Jai Lucas for nine minutes. I don't agree with any of these three. In my opinion, Brown and Hamilton need more minutes and Lucas needs fewer.

Brief kudos to Damion James for another performance that should make ‘Horns fans proud. DaMo battled all game and finished with 18 points and 12 boards. Other than that, there wasn't a ton else to like-36% from the floor, 30% from three, and just nine assists on 24 baskets.

We'll get into more later but use this as your post-game disappointment thread.

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It is a memorable tragedy to see your sports heroes fail in a great effort in a singular event, it is a forgettable debacle to see them fall apart and fade away to nothing in the back half of a season.

We could be UNC or OU; it could be worse. It’s just heartbreaking to see these guys look so damn useless at this point in the season, an at this point in their careers.

Unless this team magically pulls themselves together in the dance, I’m at the precipice of the worst kind of disappointment… The kind where you see another L and the strongest feeling evoked is an empty kind of disgusted ambivalence.

That being said, see you in the tournament, and Hook Em Horns!

by Tackchevy on Mar 11, 2010 11:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Other teams that have beaten Rick Barnes 3 times in a season

OU 2001-2002
Home L 84-85 OT
Away L 78-96
Conference Tourney L 51-67 (Seems familiar)

Oklahoma St. 2003-2004
Home L 67-72
Away L 67-76
Conference Tourney L 49-65

You can now add Baylor to that list. Texas actually made it to the sweet 16 in both of those seasons.

This season just seems different, watching this game all I could think about was how Damion James wanted to win more than anything, you can see it. You can also see he is very very frustrated out there. Have to feel for him. We have a week until the Tourney starts, lets hope Rick can get something out of this week in practice

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 11, 2010 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

The look on Damion’s face after he fouled out. That painful emptiness. He gave every ounce of effort again and again. He will soon play his last game as a Longhorn and I will miss him terribly. Damion James will be remembered as my favorite Texas player of all time.

by bfaut86 on Mar 11, 2010 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

Too disorganized for any kind of a tournament run

I feel like I’m rooting for a pick-up basketball team. Too much one on one play, too many quick shots, too many turnovers – all of these leading to bonus baskets for the other team. I don’t care what the stats say, I still think we’re a very good defensive team when the defense is set in the half court. Too bad our pathetic offense leads to transition and fatigue for us, given our depth getting destroyed by injuries. That said, our help defense still needs some work and why don’t we ever even try to draw a charge?

Gotta feel bad for James. It seems like he’s the only player out there with a sense of urgency. I wish Barnes could focus more on trying to make it easier for him on offense through strategy instead of playing mind games with his freshmen.

Although Bradley is one of the few players on the team that can bring it on both sides of the court, I hate to see him continue to play 35+ minutes every game. The fatigue is really starting to get to him.

What in the world is Barnes trying to accomplish with his handling of J’Covan Brown? Now I guess we’re only going to play him when the game is out of reach? If you’re going to send a message, just bench him for the entire game until Brown shows he’s willing to play with effort, starting with practice.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 11, 2010 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

Brown

I’ve been having the same thoughts about Brown until it clicked for me last night. Think about his selfish shot selection at times. Also notice the Technical he got last night for running off the bench during the James-Carter-Dunn tangle. I’m starting to think he just might be incorrigable and Barnes has little patience for his attitude, though I hope this isn’t the case. Thoughts?

by UTexasCPA on Mar 12, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

He was a headcase in high school, and Barnes knew this. I think he’s probably keeping him on a short leash and the benching had everything to do with getting his attention in a relatively meaningless tournament. Barnes needs Brown’s head in the game for the next tournament, even if it means keeping one of the top scorers on the bench and risk losing to Iowa St or Baylor.

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Texas has been outcoached this year...

Pure and simple! Sure Barnes can recruit (or can he) but no player development at all. He’s been lucky to have floor generals for a few years (Ford, Augustine). I’ve had more street ball than I can stomach. I’ve seen more organized execution in pick up games. Roy Williams and Bill Self (maybe even Turgeon) would have won at least 2 NC’s the last 5 years with all the talent Texas has had.

by Horns94 on Mar 11, 2010 11:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

FIRE RICK BARNES!!!

Rick Barnes is a sorry, douche-bag of a coach. He really is. He’s f’’ing clueless. Exactly why Clemson got rid of his lame ass. Most ALL of his highly talented blue-chip players have gotten WORSE, playing for him. He doesn’t know HOW to coach, then ridicules the players… calling them names such as “ridiculous” and “stupid”. What’s REALLY annoying.. Is watching ALL of the opposing coaches standing up.. Waving, yelling… COACHING… While Rick Barnes SITS there on his douche-bag ASS.. While his team stinks up the court, because they don’t know what they’re doing.. Because they haven’t been adequately COACHED. FIRE RICK BARNES, UT. PLEASE!!!!

by UTUTUT on Mar 11, 2010 11:31 PM CST reply actions  

Check out this thread

Here

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 11, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

UTUTUT=ANOTHER LOSS TO BAYLOR PISSED

NOTHING I wrote resonates with any truth?? So, then.. What’s YOUR take on the whole UT basketball F’ING MELTDOWN, Sneezy??

by UTUTUT on Mar 11, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Hire Kirk Bohls

At least he knows exactly what the Longhorns problems are and isn’t in BAFFLED DENIAL.. unlike Barnes..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

I just don't understand how our defense can constantly get beaten

down court off of missed shots that are not long rebounds. Effort? Perhaps. One occasion I’m sure we all remember where Quincy Acy gets pushed in the back by Gary Johnson for an And 1, Justin Mason who was the PG and coverage on the deep pass leaves Acy to go get his man, who was backup point guard Walton, who was in the backcourt. What in the world can you possibly be thinking Mase? You don’t leave the man closest to the basket to go get your assignment. In transistion basketball you pickup the man closest to you and make adustments if the team goes into halfcourt sets.

That tells me that our team has no basketball IQ whatsoever. Either Mase didn’t trust his teammates to pick his man up or he just isn’t that smart. in both cases I put the blame on Rick Barnes. Why in the world does your senior PG not know how to play transition D? Or why does Mase not trust his teammates? That’s your fault Rick!

by 2Cor12:9 on Mar 11, 2010 11:45 PM CST reply actions  

The entire staff is to blame

Either that or Barnes is a major control freak that refuses to take any advise from his staff.

But at the same time, is this team coachable? Seems like they want to operate at their own wavelength.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 12, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Or.. ANY IQ?

Seems the term “academically ineligible” was used to refer to many of the current UT players. A great basketball team is BOTH athletic AND smart. This UT team seems to be lacking in the smarts department. But, again, that’s Rick Barnes’ fault. He recruits dumb players and then CALLS them dumb, when they go all bone-headed on the court. go figure.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Well..

Thought I heard ESPN guys say that, a few times, during games. Maybe I’m wrong. But.. Can’t deny that dumb, lost, look on most of their faces during MANY games. Obviously, there is a disconnect between what Barnes is TRYING to coach and execution by the players. We’ll just stick with NO “basketball IQ”, then..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 8:15 AM CST up reply actions  

You mean pass the ball around to the open man?

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Mar 12, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah..

That’s about the extent of it. Embarrassingly true..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

I’m not going to put Barnes down, criticize his coaching decisions or general coaching behavior. But I would like him to be psychologically evaluated before Texas allows him to continue as our coach next year.

by utexex on Mar 11, 2010 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

Following the Bliss/Dennehy/Dotson tragedy...

…I never thought I’d see Texas have to play a first-round basketball game to even get the chance to be bounced out by Baylor. Sheesh.

What happened between the promising start of the season and the KSU loss that seemed to start the big slide? Please don’t chalk this up to my being a football fan watching basketball again, folks. I really just can’t figure out what went so wrong after everything looked so right.

Boycott Facebook. It's lame. Inform your real friends that you're going to communicate with them like a normal human being, and then delete your account. Seriously.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 12, 2010 7:17 AM CST reply actions  

How was that not a problem earlier in the season, then?

Boycott Facebook. It's lame. Inform your real friends that you're going to communicate with them like a normal human being, and then delete your account. Seriously.

by burntorangehorn on Mar 12, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

and lousy defense

IMHO this is (was, is, whatever) one of Barnes’ worst defensive teams. That’’s why the freshmen ride the bench, rightfully so. No defense= 20 point blowout.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Suffocation

PB’s take on it HERE is the best explanation I can think of.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 12, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Brown

After being treated this way, I would not be surprised if Brown left the program. That would be a real shame.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 12, 2010 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

Brown was benched...

Because of his post-game comment.. “Baylor is well-coached”. He stopped short of the OBVIOUS unspoken.. “We’re not”!

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we get the message

The picture I posted above may be a bit confusing to you. Please right click, go to properties, and note the filename.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Not asking questions..

Stating facts and OPINIONS. That’s what people do on SPORTS BLOGS. So sorry to ruffle your tea-sipping feathers. Typical Barnes’ apologist.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with questions

I ask quite a few of them myself. All you’ve offered is ten or twelve posts telling us how much you hate Rick Barnes. Okay, dude. We get the message. I don’t share your opinion. He is the winningest coach in UTUTUT basketball history. Look at the recruiting classes coming in the next two years, both of which would be obliterated if Barnes were fired. You make no logical argument.

I’m sensing some Mike Leach in the room.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Won't last..

Recruits can see what he does. Anybody can see what he does. He recruits talented players and, then, sends them out to play a “pick-up game” style of basketball, and hopes for a good outcome. It hasn’t worked! Not to mention, those talented players devolve and unravel in the process..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

that this year’s team did not come together and was not easy to coach. But there was this to deal with:

1) No point guard
2) Three potential freshmen starters, two of whom won’t play defense
3) No true post man
4) Injuries
5) Inflated expectations

I think Barnes could some help offensively on the staff. But you can’t fire a guy after one bad year. Especially with Tristan Thompson coming and Corey Joseph a possibility next year. Then the four guys coming the next year. Think UNC will fire Roy Williams?

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

OK. But..

Points 1-3 are recruiting screw-ups. Recruit multi-dimensional SMARTER players… So, you’re not constantly “baffled”. Only signif injury was Balbay.. A one-dimensional player, exemplified. Next year.. I might consider expecting NOTHING.. and, then, be overjoyed at each and every win they luckily squeak out.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Varez Ward

Also was injured. He might have been the “glue guy” this year.

by UTexasCPA on Mar 12, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Recruits do see what Barnes does:

TJ Ford
DJ Augustine
Lamarcus Aldridge

There’s someone else I’m forgetting…

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Now, that you've opened THAT can of worms..

Barnes’ suggestion that he’s perfectly satisfied with UT being nothing more than an NBA prep-school, NCAA Championships be damned, should NOT sit well with the UT faithful..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Not what he said

Your paraphrasing is inaccurate. He didn’t say he was satisfied or that a national title wasn’t his goal. (Note: I did think that quote was perplexing until I read it seveal times. Probably not a smart thing for the coach to say to the media. That’s another story.)

You missed the point – recruits that want to play at the next level should seriously consider Texas. Given the past recruiting classes and the upcoming ones, there is clearly something our coaching staff has to offer to a high school graduate.

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm
So sorry to ruffle your tea-sipping feathers.

I think you’d be more comfortable here.

by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 12, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong Link..

Should have been Tech. But, to belabor the point.. UT’s basketball team, as are some of the bloggers here, is too reticent and soft.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

So you're a Tech fan?

Well, I’m glad you’ll admit rather than play silly games. But indeed, it is us here who are “soft,” because we definitely go around signing onto blogs, pretending to be fans, and then spewing nonsense. Yep.

by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 12, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Trolls

are typically not very successful in their attempt to rattle this readership. If this is you, consider a different approach or leave.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 12, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

This "readership" (sip of tea)

.. SHOULD be RATTLED because their basketball team is playing like a bunch of Girl Scouts and gets handed one embarrassing and humiliating loss after ANOTHER..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, I tried to redirect you to something more fruitful

Like going to a blog that fits you better, but alas, you’re too committed to being a troll. Fine. We get plenty of them after losses, so have fun. Just know that our opinion of your importance is not nearly as high as you think.

by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 12, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm NOT a troll..

dumbass! The term “tea sippers” is out of Tech NOT A&M. Thereby, I CORRECTED you. That’s the problem.. UT “fans” sitting on their hands.. while the program FALLS APART. Elusive Shadow. Hmm.. Kinda like Dexter Pittman!

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you want UT fans to do?

There is only so much we can do, the rest relies on the coaches, players and administration.

This readership is here because we love the horns and support the horns and like to discuss different things about the horns in a civil manner.

The fact is your arguments are backed up by little fact and seem to be more of a knee-jerk reaction then anything else. Texas will be fine, they went 24-9 this season, and people act like this is the worst season ever. Sure expectations were high, but sometimes things just don’t turn out like you thought they would.

This basketball team will be back, maybe next year, maybe not. Barnes will be coaching when they are back, and all the people that are crying about how bad he is doing will be loving the great job he will be doing then. We are always going to lose games, the most successful season in Texas basketball history we lost 8 games, 2 less then we will lose this season. We will lose some games that we don’t expect to and some games that we shouldn’t lose and we might even get blown out. But this basketball team will be fine for many many years to come.

By the way, I have 0 Tech friends that use the word “t-sip” yet all of my aggies friends use that.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The fans..

can and should hold Barnes accountable for his mishandling of this basketball team. Knee-jerk? Do you listen to ESPN or read the Statesman? Nothing new. Backed up by observing this team CHOKE, again and again..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure this season is a dissapointment

And Barnes will be the first to tell you that. I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

Yes, this season sucked, but enough to question Barnes as a head coach? I don’t think so, the guy has taken this basketball program from first round exits, and NITs to Sweet Sixteens and its first Final 4 in 50 years.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

His mediocre success..

Is due to the play of whatever one and done star phenom he managed to recruit that year. As others have rightly noted.. A BETTER coach would have achieved even MORE, with the same team.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Mediocre?

Really?

He has made the Tourney Every year at Texas, made the sweet 16 5 out of the last 8 seasons. 3 Elite 8s, 1 Final Four….please name me another mediocre coach that has done that?

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

You are now saying that Barnes can recruit good players, yet earlier you stated that every player he recruits has “a low basketball IQ”

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

We might as well..

be discussing religion! Barnes IS a mediocre coach. That’s nothing new. PAST recruits who, single-handedly got UT as far as they’ve been are no longer here. Referring to THIS team.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

You done?

We’ve been rattled by the humiliating losses, yes. Not so much by folks who like to spend their time doing… whatever it is you’re doing. I’m sure it’s productive for both you and us. Anyhow, now that it’s confirmed you are trolling, we can just ignore you and go on about our conversations on our Girls Scout team. I’m done.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 12, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Was it just me....

Or was Baylor extra cocky last night? Damion James is a warrior. How cool would it be to see him play with Durant in Oklahoma City?

by Dawnpatrol on Mar 12, 2010 8:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I, myself, would

FRICKIN LOVE IT…. Damo and KD again….. I remember the Big 12 Tourney where KD almost singlehandedly brought us back from a 20 point half time deficit…… But to have Damo with his skill set now…. all I can say is DAMN…..

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by LadyLonghorninOK on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

They were..

and deservedly so! They, AGAIN, Bounced, Flounced and Trounced the Horns. Scott Drew is a player’s coach. Rick Barnes is.. ???

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 8:30 AM CST reply actions  

Tough loss

First off, fuck Baylor. They are pretty damn good but I hate Drew and wish HCovan had laid out LaceDarius, which is a rediculous name BTW.

Secondly, fuck our transition defense (and D in general for that matter). We waste defensive capital with token pressure on the ball, which hasn’t amounted to a steal in weeks. We consistently guard our opponent 35 feet from the bucket and then get beat by back cuts. Protect the perimeter, but don’t get forced into a switching/hedging situation at half court.

Thirdly, pass the ball quickly, decisively on offense. Make cuts to the bucket. Vomit…..

We still have a great shot at a title :)

Hook em

by jimmer on Mar 12, 2010 8:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Scott Drew

What’s with the bad blood between Drew and Barnes? I know it goes back a few seasons, but my memory sucks.

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

It was a serious question.

I think we all know your opinion of Barnes by now.

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Barnes believes Drew to be underhanded

for lack of a better word. Something of a Lane Kiffin type. Negative recruiting for one. Also he hired John Wall’s AAU coach in an attempt to sign Wall. This from ESPN. Scott Drew should be the actual douche in any discussion of such trait in coaches.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Both Barnes and Knight

do not like Drew going back to a flier he sent out 4-5 years ago. Then you have the AAU thing.

by IUTex on Mar 12, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty low

especially when Knight steps in to tell him how basketball is.

So I take it there wasn’t anything directly between Barnes & Drew?

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Bad link

This from ESPN

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't want to pile on this team

But I can remember when Texas basketball players would look at an opposing player making a lay up against them as a shot at their manhood. It just didn’t happen. This year….

It's fun to do bad things. -Latarian Milton

by TexasGarcia37 on Mar 12, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions  

Was feeling that I could root for Baylor (outside of Texas, going forward)

but it finally got to me last night. Not impressed with the character I saw in Drew and much of the team.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 12, 2010 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

Examples?

Being objective.. Baylor was jacked-up, on-fire and spanked our sorry ass. Did they not deserve to show some cockiness? I’m sure as hell rooting for them.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

I had always heard from the football players that baylor was the game they dreaded the most – that their players knew they were going to lose, so they played dirty to compensate.

Clearly, Baylor has a better team than us in basketball this year, but it seems like they’re playing with a chip on their shoulders. That in itself is not a bad thing, but when you add mild thuggery to it, you get players like Tweety Carter talking trash the whole game and bumping Damion on the way to the locker at the half. At least when we were in the midst of our 17-0 season our players were letting the scoreboard do the talking.

by Johngo on Mar 12, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh Come on..

Again, being OBJECTIVE… James did plenty of his own trash-talking, bumping into and angry pouting. AND.. Knucklehead Brown got a Technical, from the BENCH. Don’t denigrate Baylor, for bending UT over.. Examine the MANY problems of this UT basketball team.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Starting to think you are not a Texas fan after all

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

A HUGE Texas FAN..

Who expects some ANSWERS and ACCOUNTABILITY for this heralded basketball team completely and utterly FALLING APART.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Were they ever that good to begin with?

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

On the bright side, I figure now that Baylor has made y’all their bitch you will use your political clout to get the NCAA to go after Drew and get his cheating ass removed from the conference.

by miketag on Mar 12, 2010 11:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

At this rate, a bigger school will go after him

so we won’t have to worry about stooping to that level.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 12, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

What jobs come open, and who looks to him?

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

He'd be a good fit at USC

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Shut the fuck up bitches

Out here in Chapel Hill where basketball rules, most (not all) of these posts are a bunch of little whiny bitches from UT who can’t believe BU pulled the hat trick on your asses. First, next year there will be a repeat b/c the biggest baddest NBA prospect is coming to Waco in Perry Jones a 6’10" PF from Dallas and a front line of Acy, Uh-oh Udoh, and PJones are gonna make the orange a little more burnt. Add Walton and Dunn and you guys may wanna reschedule for 2020 or something. You guys been whipping BU’s ass for years and now that the tables are turned, you know how it feels for football at BU. You guys are spoiled. Barnes admits he sucked this year and Drew is up and coming. So like out here with NC and Duke welcome to Duke Southwest….that lil ole private school stuck in Whacko is just getting started. AJ Walton has 3 yrs to do what Tweety did this year and is more than capable. Look man, I kinda like UT as a school even though Mack Brown is a crybaby and I probably hate ATM Faggies worse than any of you. But, Damion James is a beast, but he let it get to him last night. You should have beat the hell out of BU with Lace out the whole first half. And what the fuck is Brown doing coming off the bench to get T’d. Lace was just playing peacemaker by separating Tweety and Jones and still gets T’d. BU may lose to KSU tonight, but these tournaments don’t mean much except for the schools that have to win it all to get a bid. I’ve never read so many whiny bastard posts. And Johngo, isn’t mild thuggery an oxymoron? ATM is the worst of all thug teams. I HATE ATM SINCE BEFORE I WAS BORN. The corp is gay. OK, just had to throw that in. Well, to sum it up, I don’t know what Barnes was doing last night. He better find a point guard and a couple shooters quick. Hey, here’s an idea. The NCAA puts BU and UT in the same bracket and the meet aqain for a FOUR-PEAT as a 4 seed and a 13 seed.

by NCBear on Mar 12, 2010 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

Ummm..

I think you may have really upset the readership…

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Duke Southwest?

I though NC was known for tobacco. Apparently they’re producing crack in some of those fields.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

"thought"

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

We're attracting quite the crowd these days...

Some tips:

1. When you join this community, it would be nice to do more than tell everyone to stfu. In all likelihood, nobody is going to care what you say afterwards.

2. Read carefully before you post, especially before generalizing the posters here.

3. Have some coherence in thought, or again, nobody will care. Going from “Stfu” to “Okay I kinda like UT and hate A&M” to “Mack Brown is crybaby” to “OMG I HATE A&M” shows that your train of thought is going nowhere.

Unlike what UTUTUT seems to think, this community does not mind criticism at all. What we prefer is intelligent discussion rather than this degeneration of reactionary stuff that isn’t enlightening to anyone.

by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 12, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Take it..

from the self-appointed guardian of this “community” (sip of tea). I challenge you to point out anything unintelligible in what I’ve posted. Acrimonious, perhaps, But.. Not unintelligible. Unlike, UT’s offensive rotation and ball movement.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not acting as a guardian

I am merely trying to steer people away from this type of posting. It isn’t what this community wants to be about. If you want to continue, go ahead, but don’t be surprised if nobody chooses to engage you. That is all.

by TheElusiveShadow on Mar 12, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep

You’re either a troll or the new guy. Either way you’re off to a bad start.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Mar 12, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh Woe Is Me..

For not sitting down, for tea, with you lackluster, spineless, so-called BASKETBALL FANS. Am I on the GOLF blog, by mistake..

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Well said

I don’t know if anyone in here was crying, but you can bet some people are upset we lost, but shouldn’t we be upset about a loss.

Rick Barnes has given expectation to this program, something that has taken time. And we will have that expectation as long as he is here. We will meet it sometimes, and sometimes there will be disappointment. I have always viewed BON as a place to talk basketball/football or any sport in a civil manner and that is what separates this blog from any other. That is all there is too it.

But to come in here, after your team has had one great season and and think that we owe you something because Texas has beaten your team in the past is just comical.

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Fedora, is that the best you can do?

Lame comeback….What is up with hiring Walls AAU coach? No big deal. Until Obama declares himself God which he is close to doing, I think you can hire whomever you wish. BU is recruiting NC like crazy. Why don’t we change the name of the sport to baylorball instead of basketball. Screw all of you who think Drew is a douche. Look at the mess he had to clean up. I’d say he’s made all forget about Bliss. This team plays with passion and truly care for each other win or lose. It’s just chemistry man. I mean the best game BU played all year was in a LOSS at Kansas…its just that Kansas was spot on that night and didn’t win the game until the last minute. The cards were just stacked against UT this year with injuries and such. But I guarantee you Drew is not backing down from anybody and if you wanna call him a douche go ahead. UT had every incentive to win that game last night, but what does Barnes do…he sits Brown and throws in Lucas. Are you kidding me? Who the hell was gonna guard Tweety…his ghost? Tweety and Walton too are constantly anticipating that dribble that gets away or that pass thats just off enough and then when they get the chance they run like wide receivers. Geez, I mean Dunn outran 3 UT players including James on the way to the bucket about 5 times. YOU GUYS ARE SPOILED AS HELL AND IT PISSES YOU OFF! Hey, its only Baylor. It’s not like you lost to the sorry ass Faggies!

by NCBear on Mar 12, 2010 3:39 PM CST reply actions  

Duke of the Southwest?!

Really?! Because they beat Texas three times in a year. Other then that your program has done nothing to warrant a moniker like that.
Let’s check:
Big 12 Regular season Championships: 0
Big 12 Tournament Championships: 0
Tournament Invites last ten years: 2
Tournament Wins: 0
Sweet Sixteens: 0
Final Fours: 0
NCAA Championships: 0
So why don’t you STFU and go away. No, wait come back. I need some laughs so please continue to post here.

It's fun to do bad things. -Latarian Milton

by TexasGarcia37 on Mar 13, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Some tips...

OK, you want tips…
1. STFU again.
2. Generalizations will suffice b/c there is no time to address each one.
3. You want coherence of thought… go read Crime and Punishment.
4. Elusive Shadows is a redundant phrase.
5. I don’t care what you think cuz its three and dunn for me here. I’m never coming back to post here again for which I am sure you’ll be glad.
6. Don’t repeat other posters phrases verbatim b/c other posters can read them for themselves.
7. I never said “OMG I HATE A&M”

by NCBear on Mar 12, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions  

You will be missed..

Don’t agree with all that you’ve said. But, at least, you have some PASSION. Unlike Barnes, and most of his team. Uninspired! This cosmo-drinking SPORTS BLOG needs an enema!

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."

by blazzinken on Mar 12, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO...

That’s awesome! Look.. SOMETHING, obviously, went very wrong this year. The bottom literally fell out from under this team. WHY?? It’s MY opinion (shared by many) that Barnes mismanaged this team and never established its identity. Also, I don’t think he’s a good “game coach”. He doesn’t know how to prevent total collapses. And.. His saying.. “I’m baffled”, about it all.. Is just down-right annoying.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Baylor vs K-State

Baylor looks like the so-so team that they are. What a difference! Against pathetic UT, Baylor looked like the Harlem Globetrotters. TEN DUNKS!!! This UT Longhorn basketball team is HORRIBLE. The fact that they were once considered the #1 team in the country is the biggest JOKE of all time.

by UTUTUT on Mar 12, 2010 10:58 PM CST reply actions  

Love the stream of consciousness, NCBear

Do you also do poetry?

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 13, 2010 8:01 AM CST reply actions  

GO COOGS!!!!!

An EXCITING team to watch. Unlike.. The lethargic lobotomized Longhorns. Hell.. Even Penders is a better coach than Barnes. Definitely.. A better GAME COACH.

by UTUTUT on Mar 13, 2010 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

No, I don't know how

Caradoc, I’m only 14 years old and have been physically, verbally, and emotionally abused since I was 4 by my step-father. My mommy washes my mouth out with soap every day too because my step-father cusses at me and taught me bad words and that is all I know besides baylorball. Can you help me? I have a computer and a Bible and am teaching myself to read and write. They let me play basketball though and I love Duke and Baylor, but otherwise they beat me. I need some new shoes and some socks.

by NCBear on Mar 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

If Turgeon and Drew stay the Aggies and Baylor will surpass the Longhorns in basketball every season as long Barnes remains. Certainly the basketball program has improved during the Barnes tenure however this is The University of TEXAS and that was inevitable. The Longhorns should be good at everything and it should be expected. We are knowledgeable and know our teams cannot win every year however the team under-acheived this season. This team went into a tailspin and collapsed. That should not be acceptable. Barnes has been unable to beat good teams and take the program to the next level. It is not hard to recruit from The University of TEXAS. It is a priviledge to represent UT and just about every child in Texas would be honored to do so. Their are several great high school basketball players from the state of Texas but yet Barnes decided to give a scholarship to an average foreigner. The guy is clueless. Rick Stansbury from Mississipi St. would be a good fit.

by ztx on Mar 16, 2010 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Judging...

By their performance against Baylor… Even SAM HOUSTON STATE is a better basketball team than the Longhorns. At least.. Better coached. Does it get any more humiliating?? Bye-bye Barnes…

by UTUTUT on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

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