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Thoughts on '09-'10 Basketball

I think that we all went into this season with some excitement.  Let's face it.  It's not easy to cultivate basketball expectations at a football school but Rick Barnes has managed to do that.  We're all disappointed.  The season isn't over but after jumping out to a 17-0 record this team has floundered and looks suspiciously like a "one and done" team in the NCAA Tournament.

I don't get to see as much of the Horns as a lot of you who live in Texas and the southwest but I did see them at UConn and I have seen about a dozen games or so.  I've taken a lot of your observations and some have made sense to me and I agree with them. Others I may not.  Here's my thoughts.  They may fit.  If so, great.  If not, correct me....

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1. The rotation.  This argument makes some sense to me.  It seems like the "embarassment of riches" in talent really left us with no established lineup or go-to guys not named Damion James.

2. Damion James.  I can't say enough about this guy.  Obviously, the man leaves it out on the court every time.  It seems that his body language is showing me a lot of frustration.  He has no help on offense.  He has no help on defense.  He's trying to do it all and he can't.

3. Players who aren't players.  If you look at our star newcomers, there's a lot of guys who insist on being one-dimensional playing either offense or defense but not both.   I really can't tell what the hell Jai Lucas is good at much less why there was fuss over him at all. 

4.  Leaders who aren't leaders.  In the most recent game, Mason looked like he was getting abused.  He looks like he can't defend and he certainly can't score.  He's a senior for God's sakes.  Couple that with Dexter Pittman who is inconsistent (I'm trying to be nice) and the team is lacking in leaders.

5. Intensity/Hustle- I bit my lip on this for weeks.  I don't like questioning anyone's desire but getting beat consistently in transition and being flat-footed on defense is just inexcusable.  There is so much standing around while the other team makes plays it's maddening.  How many times is there no rotation to help on defense? 

6. Selecting shots and making shots.  We don't really seem to have an offensive philosophy or at least all five guys on the floor aren't smart enough to be on the same page.   We don't have a guard that will consistenly control the offense and the drive to the hoop is not what it used to be with Augustin.  We're horrible on the season for free throws even though it's a little better recently.

7. Guard play-  We give up a lot of 3's (5.7 per game ranking us 220th) and we turn the ball over more than 185 other teams per game (13.9)

8. Personal Fouls-  We foul a LOT (241st in nation)


9. Rebounds-  Our rebounding stats are good so it's confusing to me why it seems that we can't hold on to a damned basketball when it comes off the rim.  Seems like stone hands to me.

Is this a fair assessment?  I think so.  I'm not saying they're bad people or that I want them all vilified.  I just don't know how this particular incarnation of the Horns is just so painful to watch.  I don't want to Rick-Bash but he doesn't really look like he has any answers out there.  Has he lost this team?  I have no idea but he's got some guys that don't really look like they're doing anything but their own thing.

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Rick-Bash

It’s not Rick-bashing to state the obvious. Barnes’ weakness since he showed up in Austin has been X’s and O’s. Look at the conference championship game leads he has blown, the final four semi-final, and this year’s conference season. The other coaches in this league have figured out his system and he hasn’t adjusted. And watching him on the sidelines is so frustrating, because it doesn’t look like he’s trying to adjust. Barnes needs to answer to that and is he willing to admit he needs to improve?

by pantherchap on Mar 13, 2010 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

DO Hit The Nail On the Head

This team should go to Oz cause they got no brain,no courage and no heart.

As a friend of mine suggested, this is barnes’ “mulligan” year.

then you look down the road to North Carolina who probably won’t even make the tourney and say is Roy Williams that bad?

When I was in high school we had a team that was undefeated and stae ranked.Our point guard got killed in a car accident and the team fell apart.

I don’t know if Ward and Balbay going out hurt that bad but i can’t find any other excuse.

by TCB Orange Dino on Mar 13, 2010 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

You made a good list.

1. IMO, it got to the point where I just didn’t want to see J’Covan & JHam on the floor at the same time. They each started playing in the team philosophy once they weren’t playing together.
2. Until this year, Damion has been more of a support / role player. He took a huge step up and carried this team on both ends. Lottery pick?
3. Bradley’s already a good player who has his moments of greatness. The three J’s all have a ways to go. JHam looks like he could be special in a year or two.
4. Mason’s best game was the last one. He was good on both ends and kept ‘em in the game with his aggressiveness. He did this all year last year and I’m just not sure why he digressed so badly. I thought he was going to be Royal Ivey quality by now.
5. So many shooters left open all year on defense. You’re right – it’s inexcusable. Defense takes intensity and will. Really fearing that this’ll be worse next year. Avery’s the only intense defender coming back on the perimeter.
6. Bad & non-existent point guard play has killed them this year. Really impressed at what Damion did offensively w/out a PG.
7. When’s the last time UT hasn’t had atleast 1 great guard? Been a long time.
8. Fouls = Lazy defense moreso than physical play.
9. Barnes always has a strong rebounding emphasis.

Barnes is still a great coach and he’ll be back. His track record is too consistent to bash. I never saw so much frustration in him before this year. Can you blame him? Damion, Bradley, & Johnson impress, Balbay was a push, but Mason, PIttman, J’Covan, JHam, Jai, Varez, Hill, Wangmene, etc… ALL have disappointing seasons. Very hard to overcome. Never understood the rotation & coach’s doghouse for several but I’d have to give coach the benefit of the doubt. He’s knows ’em better than we do. It worked for Coach Dale in Hoosiers, right?

by robthecob on Mar 13, 2010 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

About right.

We’ve gone around in circles trying to figure out what the issues have been. I would have to agree with most of your assessments here, and could throw in a dozen more possible explanations. I don’t think there was one specific thing. In fact, it seems that the problems evolved over the course of the season. When one became less of an issue, another would arise. Yes, Barnes should be held responsible, but when I look at this team, I get frustrated myself in thinking about how to coach them, so to an extent, I feel for the guy.

There are lots of bullet points that arrive to somewhat of an explanation, but the abstract things stand out the most to me: specifically the lack of leadership and what PB described as Death by Suffocation.

by Infield Elephant on Mar 13, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

Barnes

Barnes has been good as a program builder and a recruiter. I think he teaches basic skills well and he certainly has given us no reason to complain about his personal character or his work ethic. I don’t think he should be fired either. But, he has to improve his in-game coaching. Is he willing to do that? Roy Williams did hit the skids this year, but he has won tournament championships – conference and national titles. Hey, even Penders won a conference tournament. You can’t anoint Barnes a great coach until he starts winning at least conference tourneys.

by pantherchap on Mar 13, 2010 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

Uncanny

Its almost like u were describing another head coach at UT! ponders

Throw Ya Horns, Mayne

by texasboi01 on Mar 13, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

You forgot about free throw shooting

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 13, 2010 2:58 PM CST reply actions  

de ja vu

Uncanny –
We got similar issues with Rick Barnes as we do with Greg Davis. But Rick Barnes is screwing up a log worse than G.D.

by houston fan on Mar 13, 2010 10:14 PM CST reply actions  

against...

Houston. You know the committee loves to do stuff like that. We’re a 7 and Cougar High is a 10. Penders v Barnes. I would actually love to see it.

by pantherchap on Mar 14, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I Agree With DreadedOne

on almost all of his points. The only thing I would add is that I think the talent level of the current team is one additional factor. It is hard to fault Barnes on recruiting based on the talent he has brought through UT, and you can’t fault him when he brings in a talent that is one and done. With that said, if you have a team of 5 Kevin Durants, you don’t have to be much of an x’s and o’s coach. (Vince Young made Greg Davis a great coach for a couple of years) When, for much of the year we had a starting backcourt of Balbay and Mason and you compare that talent level to say, Carter and Dunn, Clemente and Pullen, Collins and fill in the blank, Sloan,etc you see that the talent doesn’t measure up. I know you can’t get all the Mickey D’s all americans every year and that high school talent doesn’t always translate to the college level, so recruiting can be a bit of a crap shoot. But if you go through the UT roster player by player, there are too many, in my opinion, who are just not players at the collegiate level. Could they be “coached” to a higher level – I don’t know. I only hope that Thompson is as advertised for next year and that they are able to sign Joseph too, because other than them we have the same cast back next year assuming none transfer/bail out.

by gcinthewoods on Mar 14, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Program players

I think the idea is to have a core of players that stay the full four years to provide continuity for the program. The one/done guys will then just need to fit into an established system, which may be adjusted to fit their talents but does not have to be rebuilt each year. However, our “pipeline” has just had to digest a full feast (the current senior class) followed by several years that brought at most one long term contributor.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Mar 15, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

#6 and #7 are the biggest reasons

and Pittman having a horrible season. The coaches also are having a bad season. The team looks sloppy and poorly coached every week.

The bad news is that it might get worse next year. The PG problem won’t be fixed next year. Texas won’t have a big body next year (they don’t this year b/c Pittman is on the bench most of the time). Damion James will be gone.

Next year starters: Johnson, Bradley, Hamilton, Balbay (ugh), and Brown? Hopefully a freshman will live up to their recruitng hype and make a big impact early.

by Longhorns84 on Mar 17, 2010 8:24 AM CDT reply actions  

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