Selection Sunday Open Thread
by txtwstr7 on Mar 14, 2010 3:11 PM CDT
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PrintMan, it feels like a long time since we watched Texas get steamrolled by Baylor in the Big 12 Tournament.
(Sigh)
But Texas wasn't the only team to blow a chance to drastically improve their seeding this past week. A week of early upsets and bubble teams stealing bids has relatively stabilized in the major conferences, as the top seeds wound up winning the Big 12, SEC, and ACC tournaments. Furthermore, top seed Ohio State is currently in a tight battle against Minnesota for the Big 10 championship.
Wiggo is in Vegas awaiting full internet access and had these words to pass along.
Yesterday was crazy for bubble teams. Houston, Washington, and New Mexico State all stole bids. And Miss State and Minnesota get their chances today. Minnesota probably stole Illinois's bid with their advance to the finals. I think Miss St must win today to be in though. (Ed note--they didnt)
Just for the record, I've got:Last Four In: Florida, Wake, Minnesota (win or lose), and Utah State
Last Five Out: Miss State, Illinois, Virginia Tech, Seton Hall, Rhode Island
Texas is currently seeded as a 7-seed in ESPN projections. Assuming we avoid K-State, then that leaves teams like Ohio State, West Virginia, or Georgetown as the likely 2nd-round matchup, if we can get past our opening round match-up. As for the locations, if Texas doesn't get Oklahoma City or New Orleans, it's gonna be a long trip for the 'Horns. The other regionals are in Jacksonville, Spokane, San Jose, Providence, Milwaukee, Buffalo.
Consider this your open thread for Selection Sunday. Much, much more to follow tonight.
UPDATE: Texas playing Wake Forest in 8/9 matchup, setting up potential showdown with #1 Kentucky.
UPDATE #2: Wiggo goes 65/65 in his predictions. All hail Wiggo.
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ESPN Bracketology
has us as a 7 seed playing 10 seed UNLV. The 2 seed in the region is Ohio State.
While I wouldn’t want to deal with Evan Turner, at least we have Bradley and Mason go chase him. Overall it’s a decent matchup we can’t really complain about given they’re a 2 seed.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
we have good matchups with everyone
we just suck
"Dont yall think that crystal beautiful yall?" -Vince Young
by Texastriplecrown on Mar 14, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
Pull are head.....
What happen? Great Depth, three Seniors that are contributors, Two Five Star Freshman, 17-0 record, became the number 1 rank team as conference time started….an now we are probably one of the worse teams in the dance, cause are heads are deep in are @$$. Now if we can pull them out, we have a great shot at making a run in this tournament.
Thought Miss St was going to pull that off today
Doubt Calipari’s suggestion will get them in.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
Seth Davis
has Cal out.
Hmmm, I have them safely in, probably a No. 9 or 10 seed. I’ve harped about how crappy the Pac 10 has been all year but regular season champs and solid RPI should be enough.
--AW--
I wonder if you can actually bet what seeds the teams get
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure!
you can bet on anything there
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
We watching this on ESPN, CBS...?
Does it matter?
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions
CBS has exclusive rights to show it first, then ESPN shows it
I always watch CBS for the entire hour it’s on, then I switch to ESPN.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm hoping our first game is on Friday
With our depth disappearing, we need all the rest we can get. I really hope Bradley can get some rest because he certainly deserves and needs some.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 4:54 PM CDT reply actions
Final AW Guesses
Been out of sorts for about a day, so now as confident any longer.
Final Guesses:
No. 1: Kansas, Kentucky, Syracuse, Duke
No. 2: West Virginia, Ohio State, Kansas State, Purdue
No. 3: Georgetown, Michigan State, Pittsburgh, Baylor
No. 4: Villanova, Wisconsin, Temple, New Mexico
No. 5: BYU, Butler, Vanderbilt, Tennessee
No. 6: Maryland, Xavier, Texas A&M, Northern Iowa
No. 7: Gonzaga, Notre Dame, Richmond, Marquette
No. 8: Texas, Florida State, UNLV, Louisville
No. 9: Oklahoma State, St. Mary’s, Missouri, California
No. 10: Georgia Tech, UTEP, Florida, Clemson
No. 11: Old Dominion, Wake Forest, San Diego State, Utah State
No. 12: Cornell, Siena, New Mexico State, Minnesota
No. 13: Washington, Houston
--AW--
Greg Anthony
shows early ignorance. Resumes of Duke and Syracuse very similar as shown on the freaking screen.
--AW--
Glad I don't have to worry about the awkwardness from Billy Packer
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions
Other three No. 1 seeds all won conference tournaments
Syracuse lost in their first round. Conference tournaments matter, folks.
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To play devil's advocate
you’re talking about the Big East vs the ACC. Clearly an edge goes to the Big East. Though they lost their first game, isn’t it really the 3rd round in their tournament?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm ready...
…for Clark Kellogg to pick all the number one seeds to reach the Final Four.
Do it, Clark…
I have four Houston Regional tickets
and was hoping for Kansas, Kentucky, or Duke for demand purposes.
--AW--
Friend of mine...
…sold four Big XII semifinals and finals session tickets for $550 apiece.
Yes, he got $1100 for four tickets to three different basketball games.
the rough part for syracuse isnt the geography
Houston and Salt Lake City are both lengthy drives from both Duke and Syracuse campuses…the draw of having to potentially play Kansas as opposed to a young and vulnerable kentucky team is the where they got the shaft
by trueorangeblood on Mar 14, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions
UNLV as an 8 seed
Joe Lunardi had them as a 10 seed playing us as a 7 seed.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Midwest
1 Kansas vs. 16 Leigh
8. UNLV vs. 9. Northern Iowa
5. Michigan State. vs. 12 New Mexico State
4. Maryland vs. 13. Houston
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If OSU gets a 7 seed, then shouldn't we as well?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:12 PM CDT reply actions
Midwest Lowers
N.2 Ohio State vs. 15 UCSB
No. 7 Ok State vs. No. 10 Ga Tech
No. 3 Georgetown vs 14 Ohio
No. 6 Tennessee vs. 11 San Diego State
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Agreed
Hope we don’t get punked by the committee.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Bracketology had both teams seeded 1 lower
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of the Terps,
but they were more a product of the mediotricy that is the ACC than actually being good. Just my opinion.
--AW--
Texas has a chance for a No. 6 seed,
based on the No. 7 for Oklahoma State. The Cowboys entered the final week of the regular season outside the NCAA tournament in my opinion.
Did one win over Kansas really do that much?
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who would be the other #2 seeds?
I know we won’t get k state…
so we could very well get w. virginia or …..purdue?
but i’m wondering if we may sneak into a 6 seed?
woooooowwwww
why are they punishing the cuse like that
by trueorangeblood on Mar 14, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions
West
1 Syracuse vs. 16 Vermont
8 Gonzaga vs. 9 Florida State
5 Butler vs. 12 UTEP
4 Vanderbilt vs. 13 Murray St
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West II
2 Kansas St vs. 15 North Texas
7 BYU vs. 10 Florida
3 Pittsburgh vs. 14 Oakland
6 Xavier vs. 11 Minnesota
--AW--
Thanks
Merely pointing out this isn’t as hard as ESPN and the talking heads make it seem. Everyone can get 63 of 65 each year like Lunardi does.
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you feeling confident about Purdue?
they’re going to suffer w/o Hummel
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
WHATTTTT!!!!
LOWER SEED THAN OKLAHOMA STATE!? HOW?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:26 PM CDT reply actions
OSU has a good win this year
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
and we beat them twice
but yeah, that HOME win vs Kansas meant a ton
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Kentucky
We are so screwed
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
East
1 Kentucky vs. 16 E. Tenn St
8 Texas vs. 9 Wake Forest
5 Temple vs. 12 Cornell
4 Wisconsin vs. 13 Wofford
--AW--
Maybe E Tenn State will knock them off
ha ha
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
East II
2 West Virginia vs. 15 Morgan St
7 Clemson vs. 10 Missouri
3 New Mexico vs. 14 Montana
6 Marquette vs. 11 Washington
--AW--
Horrible draw for the Horns
Kentucky is good and huge. Our Johnson/James frontcourt could get pummeled.
--AW--
Cousins so much more athletic than Dex
faster, stronger
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, I hope we get to play KY!
Would anyone be real surprised if we didn’t make it past Wake? Let’s not start counting chickens…
41-38 !!
If we actually had a good bball fanbase
we could have homecourt advantage in this one. UK fans travel everywhere though.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
especially this year
showing KC was pathetic.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont like this
cuse got screwed
texas is screwed
and my favorite teams have to play each other in the 1st friggin round
by trueorangeblood on Mar 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions
So if Kentucky is #2 overall
We must be the third #8 seed — #31 overall.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Pomeroy
ranks Wake #50 overall. 96th in offense, 25th in defense.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
We're talking Kentucky
Any concerns about Wake? Not nearly past WF teams, but would not consider any game a given for us at this point?
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:34 PM CDT reply actions
South
1 Duke vs. 16 play in (Ark Pine Bluff vs. Winthrop)
8 California vs. 9 Louisville
5 Texas A&M vs. 12 Utah State
4. Purdue vs. 13 Siena
--AW--
Baylor #3
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
I thnk we'll definitely beat Wake
if you think we’re in a tailspin, Wake Forest, in a much worse conference lost 5 of their last 6 games, including a 21 point loss to Miami in the 1st round of the ACC tournament.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
South II
2 Villanova vs. 15 Robert Morris
7 Richmond vs. 10 St. Mary’s
3 Baylor vs. 14 Sam Houston St
6 Notre Dame vs. 11 Old Dominion
--AW--
such a gap between those #2s
hard to fill that one
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Baylor vs Notre Dame
We’ll finally know whether Jesus is a protestant or a catholic.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
They just said they weren't considering
those “arbitrary games at the end”. Apparently…
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
No Va Tech
Dickie V about to explode.
Hokies didn’t deserve to get in. Period. Awful scheduling and played in mediocre league.
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Not to pat myself on the back or anything,
well, hell, yeah, I’ll do it. 65 for 65.
This isn’t that hard and this year was much easier than most. Even with the upsets, there weren’t 65 deserving teams.
Sorry Miss State, Illinois, and Va Tech.
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Did you also get the right matchups? or are you just looking at seed?
or just who got in?
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Just looking at all 65 total teams
Currently making list of who I think is over and under seeded.
--AW--
Having a bad feeling about this tournament
I’m thinking it could get pretty rough for us. It looks like not only will we be sent home in the 2nd round, but we’ll be watching Baylor and A&M (BOTH have arguably better basketball programs now), along with KSU going far in the tournament, and of course, Kansas cutting down the nets.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
And you were always so optimistic up till now...
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
3 losses to Baylor kills my optimism
but I’m willing to bet on us beating Wake Forest.
To beat UK though, we need to have Pittman and Cousins neutralize each other, Mason/Bradley play great D on Wall. If just those two factors can occur, we can make it a close game.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Seeding Issues
Teams that deserved better
4 Purdue, 5 Temple, 6 Tennessee, 7 BYU, 12 UTEP
Teams that got some committee love
2 Villanova, 4 Maryland, 6 Notre Dame, 7 Oklahoma State, 7 Clemson, 9 Wake Forest
--AW--
tickets
Im trying to buy tickets on ebay for this game because i live in Baton Rouge, an hour away from N.O, but there are two sessions for both rounds one and two. Does anyone know which session that the horns play in? And if they get through to play in the next round which session is that? Thanks
by longhornatheart on Mar 14, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
Top 16 seeds
Midwest
1. Kansas, 2. Ohio State, 3. Georgetown, 4. Maryland
South
1. Duke, 2. Villanova, 3. Baylor, 4. Purdue
East
1. Kentucky, 2. West Virginia, 3 New Mexico, 4. Wisconsin
West
1. Syracuse, 2. Kansas St, 3. Pittsburgh, 4. Vanderbilt
Toughest region?
I’d say Midwest as the toughest.
--AW--
Really?
I was thinking KU’s got it pretty good.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The top 8 is not bad
but the bottom eight is rough. They’ll coast for two rounds but Mich State could be tough in Sweet 16 and Elite Eight opponent will be really tough.
--AW--
If we do play UK, Barnes should definitely watch some tape and notice that UK struggles when opposing teams are playing a 3-2 zone.
You have to take away Cousins.
Stats not adjusted for tempo
Wow. Texas has the edge in every single category except for free throw shooting. We’re ahead of them in all these stats per game: points, rebounds, assists, turnovers, assists/turnovers ratio, steals, blocks, fouls, FG%, 3pt %, and points per shot.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
Wake is not good
Our 8 vs. 9 game is really a 6 or 7 seed vs a 12.
We will be heavily favored and should advance.
--AW--
Va Tech's Seth Greenburg
crying on ESPN. Play someone in your non conference and then you can complain.
--AW--
Wow @ Rece Davis asking him to name teams that don't belong
Did you really expect him to answer a question like that? It’s like ESPN wanted controversy.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
always
they always ask coaches questions they shouldn’t answer. some do.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 14, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Jay Bilas
nails it. Weakest field of 65 in my memory.
In a regular year, Va Tech, Miss State and Illinois are not every freaking close.
--AW--
Vitale whining about Va Tech.
one of his points was Va Tech beat Wake Forest head to head.
It was one freaking game, and Va Tech was at home and only won by 4 points! You’ll have to do better than that, Dick.
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
So can we get our neutral-site mojo back...and make a little run?
What’s it gonna take to roll the clock back a few months? How do you get these guys to believe (sorry for the cliche…but really, it’s all about confidence at this point)? If a Texas/Kentucky game was last December in, say, Madison Square Garden…Texas would be favored!!
41-38 !!
That neutral site thing didn't work in the tournament
by goingforthecorner on Mar 14, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear ya...
… thus the question. What’s it gonna take to get it back? (And let’s be real…we’re Texas. Any ‘neutral’ site outside the state but still in the conference footprint means we’re rooted against vigorously. Who knew so many Kansas, K-State, and Mizzou fans could make the upside-down Horns sign!)
Anyway, I want SO badly to be optimistic. Somebody prop me up here!
41-38 !!
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