The Hurt Locker cleans up at the Oscars
by kriess on Mar 7, 2010 11:28 PM CST
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PrintWinner of 6 Academy Award, The Hurt Locker was certainly a fan favorite.
It took home, Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best Film Editing, Best Sound Editing, and Best Sound Mixing. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Avatar; however, The Hurt Locker was just insanely good. Nearly a perfect movie in my honest opinion.
How does this relate to Texas Football, you ask? Here's your degrees of separation. Co-Stars Anthony Mackie and Brian Geraghty starred alongside Matthew McConaughey in We Are Marshall, and sadly McConaughey is one of many folks who patrol the sidelines during big games that Texas plays. So there.
Anyone who feels the need to talk about the award show, let the commenting commence below.
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i agree that hurt locker was a great movie, but in
50, 25, maybe even 10 years from now no one will remember that film
Avatar was a true advancement in cinematography and film making. it contributed more to film, science, art, and the industry than any movie I can remember.
Its not even debatable. this snub is on par with when saving private ryan got beat out by shakespeare in love
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Mar 8, 2010 12:14 AM CST reply actions
Yes but Avatar doesn't relate to Texas Football
so your point is moot. lol
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
Are you kidding?
Avatar was really, really shiny. Once they come up with a shinier movie, why would anyone watch Avatar again? A Twinkie of a movie.
many people are distracted by shiny
they tend to forget that memorable movies have “substance,” much like a very memorable football team (and season) i’m quite fond of.
by The Mack Attack on Mar 8, 2010 1:55 AM CST up reply actions
I thought Avatar had pretty nice substance
I mean, the underlying theme was a little overtly composed, but it was excellent nonetheless. I also agree to a small extent with the journalist who wrote the article, “”http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar" target="new">When Will White People Stop Making Movies Like Avatar?" Basically Avatar, Dances With Wolves, and numerous other films seem to be based on the formula of a white person going into another culture, becoming part of that culture, and then proving he’s better at being part of that culture than any of those who grew up in it. But suspending that point for a moment, I thought the movie was incredible, and I would be very surprised if yet another tired military movie could move me the same way Avatar did. I might Netflix The Hurt Locker, but honestly, I should probably get through Blackhawk Down without falling asleep before I try anymore of them.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
link fail
http://io9.com/5422666/when-will-white-people-stop-making-movies-like-avatar
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
Topwater or crankbait?
Lol. Agreed, the surround sound was actually invented for that movie. In fact that is the only reason to watch Stealth. Well that and Mrs. Biel in a bikini, but thats beside the point.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
Didnt a human bang a blue chick?
That is a lil like a Star TreK retro play – not cutting edge.
by realmccoy on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That's kind of how I see war movies, except in reverse:
Once someone has filmed a modern war movie, why would anyone pay to go watch another one?
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
At best
Avatar is Fern Gully on crack, good crack, not cheap stuff. Unobtainium? seriously? Avatar, while cinematically awesome, was written by a Disney crew, this is from the same crappy story lines we’ve fed kids for years. Maybe Hurt Locker wasn’t the best picture of 2009, but that by default leaves Avatar as the winner? Up in the Air was better, Inglorious Basterds was better. Avatar won what is should have, all of the technical awards.
In my opinion, Cameron will never out do Terminators 1 & 2, truly iconic movies, that we will NEVER forget.
"Who is ya daddy, and what does he do?"
No? Damn.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
by kriess on Mar 8, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I watched Commando yesterday
And he said it in that movie as well. I went to look it up, and it looks like that was actually a year after he was The Terminator. I think T1 was the first occurrence.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
Predator
very underrated Ah-nold movie
It's fun to do bad things. -Latarian Milton
by TexasGarcia37 on Mar 8, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Predator = JCVD's first movie..
He actually was the Predator until they stood him next to Arnold & saw that he was too short to be menacing. They re-shot the fight scenes with another actor in the suit. Thus, JCVD was in the movie, but then kinda wasn’t…
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Commando = Great drinking game...
In college, you drank every time someone got killed. If my hazy memory serves me right, I think there were either side of 100 people that got killed. That and Alyssa Milano is about all I recall…
And Arnold also says “I’ll be back” in The Last Action Hero movie too…
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Last Action Hero
had one of the best soundtracks ever.
" Answers --Become Resources."
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It is easy to give the award to a movie that breaks ground on cinematography.
Bright and shiny objects catch people’s attention, but that doesn’t mean that you will still want the thing five years from now. What set Hurt Locker apart was the story, acting and directing.
by dimecoverage on Mar 8, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
It could be worse...
The Dark Knight didn’t even get nominated last year.
by ElMariachiLoco on Mar 8, 2010 7:45 AM CST up reply actions
That was BS, and probably the reason I didn't watch the oscars this year
The Dark Knight was endlessly entertaining.
I'm just angry that Sandra Bullock won Best Actress
for her role in The Blind Side. Never cared for her and its funny that she won the Razzie for Worst Actress in All About Steve.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
The book was fabulous. The movie wasn’t but Bullock nailed Leann Tuhoy’s (sp?) character.
by dimecoverage on Mar 8, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
So it's another military movie, eh?
About EOD fellas? Well, it’s dangerous work, but actually seemed pretty boring from what time I spent attached to them in my old division.
Meh, gimme Avatar. And Shutter Island, although I haven’t seen it yet.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
So you are picking a movie you have seen over a movie you havent seen?
Shocking
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
I know, I know
But military movies are bottom-of-the-barrel in imagination and realism both, oddly enough.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
Come on!
I though Stripes was the definition of art mirroring life.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Actually, it's much closer than any of the other army flicks
Except maybe Hot Shots: Part Deux.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 7:27 AM CST up reply actions
There is a guy that Hurt locker was based on and now he’s trying to get some mula from it,the screen writer tried to say it was fictional but the screenwriter followed them around over in Afghanistan or Iraq ,where ever that hole was supposed to be.
Spies like us has them all beat..
Spies Like Us was funny! Not military, though.
I miss the days when Chevy Chase was funny.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
Community is...
a great show. Abed is probably the best character going right now. Of course, I readily identify with his movie & pop culture references as I can drop a quote in the blink of an eye….
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Charge it to the Underhills.....
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Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
FLETCH...
“Can I borrow your towel for a sec? My car just hit a water buffalo.”
Watched “The Deep End” the other night with my wife and Mrs. Stanwyck played the judge on that episode. Of course she has really dark hair now.
Entertainment Weekly did a front page story on the remaking of Fletch and how almost no actor wants to touch it due to the reverance of how well Chevy did with the character.
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Yeah, I read that a while back.
The had Ryan Reynolds casted to play Fletch. Or it was Justin Long from the Mac commercials. Either way, it would have been funny. But I agree, untouchable as far as a remake.
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If you haven't seen it, don't lump it in with other movies.
It’s very much unlike most war movies I’ve seen, actually.
Like I said, I may Netflix it
But there’s nothing about IEDs that should be put into a movie for profit, and I’ve found Hollywood portrayals of the combat experience to be predictable at best, and invariably contrived in presenting the psychological aspect of day-to-day life in a modern-day combat zone. It’s like they’re all trying (and failing) to be the next Apocalypse Now, which is the most recent military film I can remember with any real value.
But yeah, I’ll give it a shot. It might be the exception to the rule.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
You will not be disappointed
unless you go into the movie expecting to be disappointed.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
I'll try to approach it with a more open mind.
But I generally end up disappointed with war movies about the Gulf War, WW2, or Vietnam. There’s the exception of Apocalypse Now, although that was barely a war movie. The problem for me is that the movie maker invariably presents from the perspective of American soldiers. It’s always sympathetic and shows soldiers as heroes, when most of us were not. It tries to portray us as all having a fraternal relationship within our units, which is sporadic at best in real units. It rarely shows the systematic abuse of junior enlisteds and thickheadedness that pervades the vast majority of levels in line units. It usually even glamorizes combat. One of the reasons I liked Apocalypse Now was that these mythical qualities are all addressed with much more realism than in any other I’ve seen.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Ok I'm convinced
You’re not going to like The Hurt Locker, you’re going to love The Hurt Locker. Especially after that little bit you just spat out.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
Really? That's promising.
Remember Mr. Clean, and Lance Johnson? Those were among the most realistic military characters I have ever seen. They’re kids who for some reason or other found themselves in the military, but don’t really belong there, which is how I’d describe most people I met in the army. Most I knew ended up joining because they felt they had no other socioeconomic options, and the recruiters promised them a better life. That’s not the same thing as being drafted like Mr. Clean and Lance probably were, but it achieves a fairly similar effect of unprofessional live targets who are bound to do more harm than good until they’re dead or home.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not going to say anything else
but Netflix it. You will end up buying th Blu-Ray afterwards. That is all I’m going to say.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
Damnit, that's Stanley Kubrick
You can’t poke holes in my otherwise solid distaste for military movies. Not with Kubrick. It isn’t fair.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Um...I guess I should also include thoughts, however worthless:
Full Metal Jacket did show a lot of problems. It definitely showed the inanity of systematic abuse of junior enlisteds in basic training, but unfortunately not much of what goes on in garrison or downrange. It was intriguing to see guys who had hardened themselves into justifying killing, but whose minds seemed just on the cusp of realizing that what they were doing was senseless. The guy with the moustache, the one with the “never been fired, and only dropped once” line, was my favorite. He came off as desensitized to the seriousness of death, which is fairly common among those in such situations, but it’s obvious in his interview and some other quotes that even he seems to not be able to make heads or tails of why the US was fighting there.
Another part I loved was the battle during the Tet Offensive. It was actually fairly realistic, at least in my experience, because it was a lot more like all but one or two combat situations I faced. It was a short skirmish where one side seriously underestimated the other side, and ended up being very anticlimactic—that’s mostly how it is. Most military movies seem to involve decapitation themes where the battle is over as long as some head honcho is dead, which is completely unrealistic. In this one, it’s a faceless enemy who attacks at night, the alarm is sounded, everyone trudges out of hooches to establish perimeter security, and it’s over in a matter of minutes. Other than IEDs and homemade mortar attacks, that was probably the most common type of violence I saw in Iraq, and followed a very similar course.
What I did NOT like: with all the great lines and wry humor in the movie, lots of people whiffed entirely on the underlying themes, interpreted it as cool, and wanted to join up for killing. Kubrick had a similar effect with A Clockwork Orange, largely due to his decision to omit the final chapter(s) of the full version of the book when adapting it for a movie.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
Full Metal Jacket...
Now that had an iconic feel to it. There in the late 80s, it seemed like everyone was trying to re-hash the Vietnam War with the same material over and over again. It definitely set itself apart. Much like Saving Private Ryan & Band of Brothers did for WWII. I think it will be awhile before a movie about what’s happening in Iraq & Afghanistan will really be able to portray reality over there due to all of the political winds blowing around Hollywood. However, Hurt Locker did seem to walk a solid middle ground compared to others…
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
Did you see/read Generation Kill?
SUperior to the Hurt Locker, and the Hurt Locker is great. It illustrates virtually every point you mention above.
Documentary, right?
No, haven’t seen it. Documentaries are a completely different story, literally.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Miniseries
No — it’s an HBO miniseries by David Simon who created the Wire. The book is a great read too.
Generation Kill: its a Doc-drama-mini-series thing...
Based on a book by one of the soldiers, its so accurate that it comes with a book and dictionary so you can understand who is who and WTF they are talking about with all the soldier-lingo.
Now that you have gotten a BON thread on the Hurt Locker, you gotta see it and tell us what you think B-O-H
"Texas Till I Die"
Godfather this is Hitman2 we are Oscar Mike
after watching Generation Kill twice I started talking like that…Stay frosty…
"Texas Till I Die"
Characters were for me, very identifiable.
Hard charging quasi-glory seeking CO (Godfather)
Inept company commander (Encino-man)
Get it done NCOs platoon Sgt
Pissed off Navy Corpsman (Doc)
and the quiet “dumb” guy that happens to be very talented at shooting people
Three things.
I can’t speak to the authenticity of it, but it you’re looking for complete and utter authenticity, you shouldn’t be watching a fictional film. It’s fictional for a reason: dramatic suspense, not documentary authenticity.
Secondly, this movie wasn’t exactly “for profit.” It’s the lowest grossing best picture winner of all time (13 million or so…) and made no concessions to marketability. It achieved what it did awards-wise based on critical praise alone (deserved praise, in my opinion). There’s hardly even a linear storyline, just a series of vignettes that tell a story of a man’s relationship with war. It’s not made to pander to an audience at all.
Third, Generation Kill is amazing.
Lack-of-Profit
I was going to mention this too. Burnt, if you’re worried about the use of cliches and tried-and-true Hollywood devices to make a quick buck, then you should find it reassuring that the Hurt Locker did poorly at the box office. Though, I would say that part of its poor performance was due to the lack of marketing for the film.
Warm fuzzies at the Oscars
Here’s why 2010’s Oscars were very “vanilla” compared to previous controversial years:
1) Jeff Bridges – older iconic actor that has cross-generations appeal
2) Sandra Bullock – epitomy of the 90s star who finally got a good script in the next decade. Did anyone else notice that all of her 2009 movies show off her hot young 40s bod? That’s what Steve should have been about.
3) Christoper Waltz – Europeans get to take one home as a distraction to Greece falling apart.
4) Mo’Nique – Indy film critics get a win as well as a minority winning well-deserved recognition for her role in “Precious”.
5) Bigelow/Hurt Locker – First woman ever to win best director; Low budget/low ticket sales movie sticks it to the “man” James Cameron who spent $400 million on his movie. Speaking of, this isn’t baseball. When a movie costs $400 million+, it shouldn’t be considered art, but rather an expectation.
Again, no major controversy other than trying to save the Dolphins! Dolphins…Ricky Williams…there’s yet another link to why this year’s Oscars made it onto the Burnt Orange Nation website.
PS For once I agree with RBR as “Stripes” is the ultimate military movie!
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
I think Cameron's years of work on Avatar are a little different than your usual big-budget expectation
It’s the guy’s opus, one might say. I don’t usually give credit to a film just because of a huge budget, and often times such films end up being garbage. I’m not even a huge Cameron fan, as I thought Titanic actually represented a downturn in Kate Winslet’s career. But just as when Robert Duvall took so many years to expertly craft The Apostle, I think Cameron deserves a lot of credit for his perfectionist approach to Avatar.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of "the Apostle"
I think the academy really blundered by not including UT alum Farrah Fawcett in their “In Memoriam” section of the evening. Her movie career spanned 4 decades and included a number a critically acclaimed roles including “the Apostle”. Just seems wrong to me to have left her out when Michael Jackson was included for his role in the Wiz…..really?
GO 'HORNS GO!
CPF
Good call.
Did not even realize til now that she was excluded.
by Infield Elephant on Mar 8, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Avatar
Was visually remarkable. Truly impressive. However, the acting, the plot, the message, the script, virtually everything except the visuals, was total crap. One of the worst movies I have ever seen. If it wasn’t for the fact that I was watching it in 3D at the IMAX, I would have walked out. In fact, I can’t see any reason to watch that movie outside of a 3D IMAX. It just isn’t worth it.
by Texas Our Texas on Mar 9, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
It was indeed predictable
But other than that, the plot wasn’t terrible. The concept of an avatar for cultural interaction is not a new one, but I would imagine that it’s a new one to most who haven’t studied security strategy or intercultural relations.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 9, 2010 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
Oh wait…different Opus! I am fine with Mr. Cameron’s Opus. And yes, you are right BOH – Big money doesn’t always mean quality. However, I think everyone would have a reasonable expectation for quality when that much money is spent. Sadly, I am torn pretty much every year between movies that actually bring people to the box office vs. indie films that have good quality, but little support. If only Bill the Cat could have made a cameo, then I might have been persuaded…
PS I thought Kate Winslet’s breasts in Titanic definitely had more of an upturn effect! :P
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
I'm a big fan of indie films
Or even the artsy-fartsy ones. I disagreed with Elaine Benes on the topic of The English Patient, for example. And it also included some upturned effect, not to mention some more southern effects.
I have beat wholesale ass for a whole lot less.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
Some background on the "Kanye" moment during best short subject documentary...
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/2010/03/07/music_by_prudence_burkett
Apparently those two like each other even less than it appeared on stage.
And I agree with those that say Avatar is just shiny. Star Wars was revolutionary too, but no one said it deserved any oscars. I saw Avatar at IMAX. I enjoyed it. I predicted everything that would happen, and I doubt I’ll ever see it again.
I liked the Hurt Locker a lot, but Inglourious Basterds was the movie this year. Great to see Christophe Waltz win.
What if Inglorious Basterds was called something else?
Inglorious
Once Upon a Time in France
Le Revenge
Would it not take home all of the awards? It was the best movie of the year and it wasn’t even close. I’d put 500 Days of Summer up there too for the Han Solo reference alone.
500 Days of Summer was very good
In fact this year had ALOT of good movies that just didn’t get the recognition it deserved. Take both movies that Sam Rockwell starred in this year. Choke (adaptation of the novel by Chuck Palanuik sp?) and Moon. In my opinion he is one of the most underrated actors that are out there.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
Moon...
That was probably as close to a one-man show as you can get with a movie. Sam Rockwell did an amazing job with a plot that drags on. It was like Life on Mars meets Multiplicity, but clearly darker.
"I've never gone into a game trying to win the Heisman Trophy; I go into a game trying to win." - Colt McCoy
It reminded me
of an updated 2001: A Space Oddysey. Absolutely loved it.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
I would say
what if no one knew Inglorious Basterds was done by Tarantino? I think some people (myself included) have started to rag on him for basically making a bunch of “homages” to all the cheesy genres he loves, and it was starting to get old. I honestly didn’t really want to see IB. But I did, and I really really enjoyed it.
Not a fan of the Grindhouse movies then?
Hellride, Planet Terror, and all the others had a little bit of Tarantino in them. He was a producer, I think.
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Grindhouse was my favorite
Just plain fun. Hopped off the high horse, suspended every disbelief, and enjoyed the cheese. Awesome.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 10, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Hell Ride was SOOO BAD
I was laughing by the time it was over. and not happy laughing, beaten down depressed laughing.
"Don't matter what they throw at us. Only angry people win football games." Darrell Royal
I thought KW had mistaken the title of "Death Proof," the other half of Grindhouse.
But much to my surprise, there actually is a movie called Hellride. Wow, Vinny Jones is in it. I’m guessing he was kind of the high point?
Boycott Facebook. It's lame. Inform your real friends that you're going to communicate with them like a normal human being, and then delete your account. Seriously.
by burntorangehorn on Mar 10, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
It's a terrible Biker B Movie based outta the 60's.
But I love it.
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Inglourious
Was the best of the year. My favorite Tarantino movie, and one of my favorite movies period. Waltz was nothing short of amazing. His character was brilliant. Made the movie.
by Texas Our Texas on Mar 9, 2010 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
Tarantino script / parts have always been rather difficult.
He stated that at one of the award shows this year. But yes, great movie and great cast. Brad Pitt did a fantastic job in the movie. I thought BJ Novak did an excellent job also, albeit he had a semi small part in the film.
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I watch as many German films as I do American...
…but I have to admit that I had no idea who Waltz was until that movie came out. Interesting performance, although the nazi cliches kept IB from becoming my own favorite Tarantino.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 9, 2010 6:59 AM CST up reply actions
Nazi Cliches?
nazi cliches kept IB from becoming my own favorite Tarantino
How’s that? The two Nazis featured for any period of time (the war hero & the jew hunter) turned out complicated, nuanced performances. Other Nazis were given sympathetic portrayals. The Nazi elite were treated as characatures (Hitler, Goebbels) but that was by design to disparage them for comedic effect (i.e. Chaplin’s take on Hitler).
Oh man, Chaplin.
The part about the glass ceiling under the ballroom. I remember being a 15yo dying of laughter to that movie.
City Lights, too.
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by burntorangehorn on Mar 9, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
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