NCAA Tournament Projected Seeds
by awiggo on Mar 8, 2010 7:34 PM CST
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PrintWe’re now less than a week away from Selection Sunday. The dream of a protected seed for the Longhorns as part of the Houston Regional died weeks ago, however, Sunday is still one of the more anticipated days of the year for this college basketball junkie.
I predict we’ll hear a lot less of "________ should definitely be in. They got robbed!" and a whole lot more of "There horrible! No way should _______ be in the tournament."
The discussion of whether or not to expand the NCAA tournament from 65 to 96 teams should end for anyone who has attempted to put together a bracket this season. In a typical year, there might be 70-75 worthy teams for those 65 coveted spots. This season, there’s probably about 60 worthy teams for those same 65 spots and five others teams that will slip in without merit.
Along those lines, let’s take a look at how this NCAA tournament might be seeded.
First I am assuming that the following mid-major teams will all win their respective conference tournaments and avoid their leagues receiving multiple bids—Siena (MAAC), Butler (Horizon), Old Dominion (Colonial), and maybe Utah State (WAC). Northern Iowa has already won the Missouri Valley making the MVC a one-bid league, and Gonzaga and St. Mary’s have made the West Coast Conference finals ensuring the WCC gets those two teams and no more.
The top teams are gunning for protected seeds in the these four regionals: Syracuse, St. Louis, Houston, and Salt Lake City. With no west coast teams vying for No. 1 or No. 2 seeds, the weakest No. 1 seed will likely be ‘protected’ but their regional location will be a long way from home.
First and second round sites include Providence, Buffalo, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Oklahoma City, Milwaukee, San Jose, and Spokane.
No. 1: Kansas, Syracuse, Kentucky, Duke
No. 2: Purdue, West Virginia, Ohio State, Kansas State
No. 3: New Mexico, Michigan State, Villanova, BYU
No. 4: Pittsburgh, Baylor, Temple, Butler
No. 5: Wisconsin, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Tennessee
No. 6: Maryland, Xavier, Texas A&M, Northern Iowa
No. 7: Gonzaga, California, Richmond, Marquette
No. 8: Texas, Missouri, UNLV, Louisville
No. 9: Oklahoma State, Clemson, Florida State, St. Mary's
No. 10: Wake Forest, UTEP, Illinois, Old Dominion
No. 11: San Diego State, Florida, Va Tech, Cornell
No. 12: Georgia Tech, Memphis, Notre Dame, Rhode Island
Thoughts? Gripes? Suggestions?
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Good stuff Wiggo
Really want Texas to win two in the Big XII tourney to get up to the 6 line.
You ain't hurt...
Well
That answered my first question.
Going to have to go through Baylor who has just killed us this season.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I mean...Baylor just can't beat us 4 times in a row, right?
but, again, with this team….the focus should be Iowa St (who just had their most impressive win of the season against K State)
I really don't want an 8 seed
What would we have to do to move up to a 6 seed, is that possible?
-Maybe win 2/3 games this weekend.
Another question, very hypothetical, what if we were to win the tourney beating Iowa St., Baylor, K-State, and Kansas a long the way?
-Maybe move up to a 3 seed?
Hey a guy can dream right?
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I'll say this without feeling and with a tear in eye,
Texas is not going to win the Big 12 tournament.
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Well
That is the beauty of March madness. Although it does not happen much, teams can get hot.
Syracuse in 2006 knocking off Uconn in the early rounds, Maryland in 2005 sweeping through the ACC tourney. I know these guys are the exception…but there is always that chance.
With all that being said…you are right.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
I think you are right....
Can’t think of anyone in the last few seasons. Baylor was close last season, I think they were a 6 seed.
But that is the beauty of March Madness….anything can happen.
Just to be clear though, I really don’t have any hopes.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Fairfield narrowly leading Siena, 5 min left
So if farfield wins and gets the auto-bid, does siena have good enough a resume to be at-large, and thus screw URI?
I think so
They also have the tourney history in the favor as well.
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Not sure about Siena
that one is a longshot. RPI 36, Strength of Schedule 136. 0-5 against RPI top 50.
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I think Siena still makes it in, because of their tournament history. Those kinds of things seem to matter…
"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott
by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 9, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
My thoughts...
Lose to Iowa State…..Texas is 8/9 seed
beat Iowa State………..Texas is a 7 seed
beat Baylor………………Texas is a 6 seed (they have it within them to do this)
win semi’s………………Texas is 5/6 seed
win big 12 tourney…..Texas is 4/5 seed (team too inconsistent to pull it off)
Its possible.
I think K-state is overrated, if we can knock off baylor, and then take out K-state, who knows…maybe Kansas gets upset as well and we play Aggie in the Championship
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
Like I said earlier
I am not counting on it by any means
"The best decision I ever made was coming to Texas," James said. "The second-best decision was coming back."
avery, hamilton, and brown
2 of those 3 would have to be lighting it up each game for that to happen.
Any chance the Cuse are NOT in Houston bracket?
I just don’t see that happening any way, shape, or form, unless they manage to slip from a 1 seed by miraculously losing their first game.
Probably not
Only way I see it as a possibility is
Duke-Syracuse
Kentucky—Houston
Kansas—St. Louis
Syracuse—Salt Lake City
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From what I've read
Even if Kentucky is ahead of Syracuse in the one seeds, they would still get seeded in Syracuse rather than Houston because that’s their closer proximity. But you’re right, if Kentucky, Kansas and Syracuse lose early enough and Duke runs the table in the ACC, they could conceivably take the 1 seed overall and get placed in the Northeast. Then it looks like Kansas would get St. Louis, and Kentucky/Syracuse would be whoever was higher for the Houston bracket.
Sucks for Houston ticketholders (i.e., me). I was still holding out hope that even with Texas fading, we’d get to see Kansas or Kentucky in the bracket. The way it’s shaking up looks like a Syracuse-K-State tilt.
I have tickets too
and I’ll be rooting for your Wildcats or the Jayhawks to get Houston. I doubt I’ll go so the stronger the fanbase, the more I can sell the tickets for.
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With the average year Bradley has had thus far
If he doesn’t light it up in March does he come back?
It’s hard to say. He has slipped a lot in mock drafts but is still a first rounder. And with the unfortunate timing of the potential 2011 lockout, that may be a really sad deciding factor for him.
Bradley’s 15+ point games:
L Beach St, Texas St, Texas PA, UNC, Colorado, @ ISU, UConn, @ OU, NU, @ Mizzou
Except against Mizzou, he hasn’t scored against anyone with a pulse. And he actually hurt us in the Mizzou game because he just kept jacking up shots. You shouldn’t only score 15 points in 18 shots. His Ast/TO is barely over 1 at 1.27 (for comparison Balbay has 2.47).
I don’t think anyone would risk a 1st round on him if he can’t do better against college talent.
I completely agree
I’m just mentioning what draft boards have. I don’t see how he is a 1st rounder either and he should stay, but a lot of drafts had him as a lottery pick at the early parts of the year now slipping into the 20’s.
Obviously the draft stock is from his hype and potential but not his current basketball ability….You have some solid stats though, maybe you should send those to the scouts incase they haven’t seen them yet! haha
ha. yeah right. I think there will be a lot of movement when the season is over. I think most of the stuff coming out now is from the espn hype factory that doesn’t know what their talking about and just throws crap out based on who was ranked where when the freshmen signed. When the season is over and the real scouts evaute the entire season, I’d bet he drops some.
The weak draft point below may also be part of it.
How is OkSU a 9 seed? They held serve against everyone in the Big 12 South except for Texas. They also have two VERY good wins AT KSU and at home against KU. I would say their only bad loss is AT OU (same as us).
I should say “only a 9 seed.” Seems like they’d be an 8 with us. I’m not sure that either we or Mizzou shouldn’t be moved down to the 9 seed. At least we have a couple decent non wins in MSU and Pitt. Mizzou only got 1 game out of 4 against KSU and KU (worse than OkSU) and they lost to the one good team they played non con (Vandy).
Quick question
If Clemson is both an 8 and a 9 seed do they get to play themselves?
by flamingmonkeyass on Mar 8, 2010 10:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
My thoughts
I may have a different take on bracketology, mainly because I don’t think seeding matters all that much. Why? First, I should say what matters to me (apart from being entertained) is to see the Horns in the Final Four. Sure a championship would be wonderful and a Sweet Sixteen makes the program look good, but for me it’s the Final Four that matters. And to get there, you have get past everyone in your bracket — four wins that likely include a #1 and a #2 — and I say it doesn’t much matter what order you take them.
What I’m really looking for: ( 1 ) Favorable matchups, ( 2 ) Truly neutral courts, ( 3 ) Normal game times.
I’m not very optimistic about the Horns chances this year, but there is still the possibility that someone will get crazy hot and the rest of the team will catch on fire. At least there is that.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
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