Chance Ruffin as Starter? - Game Three Thread
by InDKR'sShadow on May 23, 2010 10:42 AM CDT
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PrintThere have been suggestions that Chance Ruffin should be moved from closer for the Big-12 Tournament and Omaha. Ruffin has been having a great year, going above and beyond the call of duty every time he has seen the field. As he is one of our top four pitchers--if he wasn't a Longhorn he would be just about any team's ace--it seems like it would make sense to play him on the mound as long as possible.
Personally, I think he should stay exactly where he is. Jungman, Green, and Workman are all more than capable at starter. There's going to be a point where one of them is losing control on the mound and that's exactly why we have Ruffin in the bullpen. When the LSU game spiraled out of control last year having a expert closer in the bullpen could have made the crucial difference. As a closer, he can pitch two nights in a row at exactly the points when we need him the most. I say "dance with the one who brung ya" and don't fix what's not broken. Chime in with your thoughts.
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The idea has come up more than once in threads
Guess it’s not a popular idea
by InDKR'sShadow on May 23, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
no disrespect to anyone who suggested this ...
… but wow! Didn’t expect this to hit the main page.
In Mack Brown We Trust!
I am one of the 2 idiots that would consider moving Ruff
Now hear me out. First of all, I would consider moving him only for the CWS. I would use today, the tourney (which means nothing), and posssibly games with #4 seed to start a test case. Question number 1 – who would replace Ruff? I have no doubt that Chance would be an awesome starter – but do we have potential at closer? Question number 2 – is Ruff a significant upgrade for Workman? I belive he is a significant upgrade – but would defer to experts like 40 on this point.
If Ruff is a significant upgrade – lets do the math. You need 3 wins to get to the final, and 2 wins in the final. The most dominant position on the field is the starting pitcher. If you want proof – go to Vegas baby. They will not set the odds before the starter is announced, and they will immediately change the odds if there is a scratch. No other position (with the possible exception of a QB injury) has such impact. So the greatest opportunity in all of sports is to “out starter” your opponent.
So here is the scenario that is appealing. TJ as number 1 starter, Cole number 2, and Ruffin number 3. Workman in reserve in case we fall into loser´s bracket or for long relief or as potential closer. With Ruff number 3, if TJ and Cole are lights out – you have a " A good Chance¨" to close the series. For example, if you are in the final game to win it all – what would you rather have? Workman with Ruff in the pen? Or my preference, Ruff starting, and TJ, Workman, et al in the pen.
So my thought is Ruff at number 3 gives you the absolute best chance to win the series. But I certainly understand that going against something that has worked all year – is a major risk. The reason I would consider the risk – the talent at CWS will be much stiffer than what we have faced in the Big XII.
starters may be important however
With Ruff being our most consistent pitcher this season keeping him in the closer role allows him to impact every game in the CWS instead of sitting for 2/3 of our games. if you remember last year’s CWS, it was our relief that got us there and then our relief that let us down in the finals, so having Ruff back there really gives the guys that start alot of confidence to be aggressive on the mound because they know he can bail them out.
The question isn’t why isn’t he starting or should he be. Just by his body of work at Texas he is more than capable of being in the starting rotation. Ruffin is more valuable to the team in the clean up role. We know Jungman and Green are mortal. They can can an off day. And then Ruffin comes in.
It works. Don’t fix something that ain’t broke.
Ruffin Should Stay in the Pen
Each of the last two times we havewon the whole thing we have had an excellent stopper in the pen.Huston Street and the J. Brent Cox.
If we need another starter we have plenty of arms.I have been especially impressed by frosh lefty Hoby Milner.After 40 plus games we don’t have any rookies any more.
by TCB Orange Dino on May 23, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
I give the condensed, ADHD version. Ohio Horn fills in the details.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The Missouri announcer said that last year was the first year in conference history that the #1 seed won the tournament.
That’s amazing.
It is starting to feel like that stupid Volkswagen commercial, isn’t it? :-)
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No. You keep posting, too :-) You give more details.
I have the live video feed- when it works! – and I can tell what happens before the game tracker.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t guess they will try to walk Keyes this time…
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If Ruffin starts a game just remember where u heard it first mentioned!
Give me credit for something
No but I predicted it about a month ago
with the rest of my lame ass predictions
Texas team bat avg by the time the regionals get here would be .300
Texas would homer 65+ times
You Hit A Couple Nice Ones Though
But I guess even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and then.
Keep giving all the gritty details, like before. :-)
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well this is outstanding
12-0 and what inning? 4th?
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Easy come, easy go.
Love it when that happens.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong thread but...
Jose Lima died? What the hell? He was only 37
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
They say he died of a heart attack. Way too young.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
KK walks
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Pitching issues. Too bad for the Tigers. :-)
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Rupp on 2nd
Moldy on 3rd
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Will LSU even make the tourny?
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
I read some article that they might not.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless they drop out of the SEC tourny rather quickly
I wouldnt be surprised.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
They lost quite a few starters, didn’t they? LSU is one of those programs that just reloads. They will be back.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too shabby a performance for a team that lost in the title game of the CWS.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
The announcer said that the rule is in effect today.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lusson groundsout
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
I still remember when LSU put that pitcher on the mound that looked like Snoop Dog
when we played for the CWS
The guy got drafted. I can’t remember what team, but I remember watching him at the combine. Pretty good defensive back.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Jones?
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Yeah we all remember him
sadly…
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
I digressed to football and the combine.
Too many days until August.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the updates folks!
Obviously both of us aren’t around this weekend, nice to see the Horns set the record though.
Anybody mind posting our pitching lines (can’t see gametracker)?
Workman
5 IP, 3 H, 0 Runs, 5 Ks
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
BTW
Reading that Walsh’s homer tied the 2007 mark for most homers in a season…that record will obviously fall soon
The Mizzou announcers are getting excited. Maybe planning a comeback?
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
Can I just say how much I love that this is happening at Mizzou. The last time the core of this team (2007’s Kiddie Corps) traveled there they were absolutely embarassed (anybody remember the 31-12 game?)
Ive done my best to forget
Thanks. Looks like happy hour starts early today…
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Aaron Senne hit the homer
Again. Go figure. Kid is a beast.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Is Austin Dicharry Even Part of the Initial Post and Conversation?
I’ve read that Dicharry has tendonitis. When was his last appearance and is he going to be a factor at all in a CWS run? Any input from those in the know would be appreciated.
OK if they don't want the "mercy rule"
we should just wallop them in the 8th and 9th!!!
(if Thomas doesn’t finish this out)
I like the wallop idea. For the 2008 game.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t remember how to spell his name. My apologies to Andrew.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry. Ohio Horn usually follows up after my ADHD.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
there's my run rule
oh wait…
College Station made The Guinness Book of Records: World's largest tool shed
My fault. I forgot the O. It happens with anything related to Oklahoma. :-)
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think all of the game will be on TV, but the Big12Sports website streams all of the games for free
I hope their video feed is better than most of the Big 12 sites.
by dimecoverage on May 23, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
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