Morning Coffee Sees Potential For Two More 2011 Corners
Red River battle for Jackson. No other players in the 2011 class have seen their stock rise as quickly as 2011 Klein Collins cornerback Charles Jackson. Once the back-up plan in case of losing OKC MIllwood stud Josh Turner, Jackson now looks less like a consolation prize and more like a major prize himself. Ranked no. 123 on the last Aggie Yell 125 (updated in late February) and unranked in the last LSR from mid-March, Jackson shot into the top five of the updated Inside Texas top 100, Jackson is the hottest prospect in the entire state, picking up recent offers from Baylor, Cal, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech. Seven offers have come in the last two weeks.
Of those, Oklahoma is the most significant, as Jackson felt "honored ($)" by the scholarship offer from the Sooners, noting, "How much better does it get than an offer from OU?" Well, the obvious answer to that question is an offer from the Longhorns, who are now in a "50-50" tie as his favorites. An offer from Texas, after all, is much harder to secure.
While it's not a great surprise that Oklahoma's recent offer has increased their standing with Jackson, who was a Texas fan growing up, it was surprising to hear from the same article (from the Oklahoma Rivals site) that Jackson not only hasn't heard from the Texas coaches for a while, possibly May 5th when Will Muschamp visited the school, but may not attend the June 5th camp, as has been reported in numerous other places. Inside Texas reported just the other day ($) that Duane Akina also went by the school within the last week or so.
So the Texas coaches are clearly still interested in Jackson as demonstrated from their presence and are limited in their ability to contact Jackson, so it's more likely that Jackson simply hasn't had time to call the coaches rather than a lack of interest on the part of the Longhorns.
When Jackson spoke with Jeff Howe of Inside Texas (published more recently than the OU Rivals article, at least), he sounded much more certain about attending the camp in Austin, noting that he hopes to take away some coaching tips from the event and wants to learn more about the coaches, his main intention moving forward in the recruiting process. He's been told by the coaching staff that he could receive an offer at the camp if he performs well (as is expected), but likely would not commit at that time, preferring to attend other camps this summer, including a visit to Norman and possible visits to Cal and Nebraska.
With Josh Turner's recruitment looking like it could extend into the fall, the Texas coaches likely won't have the opportunity to wait for Turner's decision before deciding whether or not to offer Jackson and the upcoming camp will present the opportune time to offer him in person. The question is how the Longhorns would then handle the situation with limited scholarships available. Are they willing to take two more cornerbacks in the class? It's tricky because Turner is clearly still the top target and a commitment from Jackson before Turner's decision severely complicates the remaining numbers if there are truly only three more spots in the class. Would Turner still have a scholarship available if that occurs? If Turner commits, would Jackson still have an available spot? Are the coaches willing to go to 25 in this class?
Cornerback is arguably the top remaining need in the class -- slightly ahead of running back -- so there is a significant argument to be made for adding two more cornerbacks, especially two who appear ready to contribute early in college. Even if there are only 23 spots in the class, the need at cornerback is so significant that adding another player at the position could take precedence over adding another defensive tackle, for instance, and certainly takes precedence over another defensive end or linebacker.
Whatever the case, the most significant drama at the June 6th Texas camp will certainly be whether or not Jackson receives an offer while in Austin.
Speaking of Turner...There hasn't been much news recently from the aforementioned Turner, really since naming Texas and Miami as his co-favorites after visiting for the second Texas Junior Day. Turner has been saying all along that he will attend the Texas camp on June 6th, but conventional wisdom has Oklahoma (a team consistently named in his top four with Nebraska) losing ground with Turner, which perhaps precipitated the recent offers to Jackson and Mansfield Legacy's Tevin Mitchel, who is an OU legacy himself.
The recent news of note comes from an ESPN article making the rounds on the message boards ($) to which no one has linked (and which I can't find myself). According to the article, Texas and MIami are still tied atop his list, but the Hurricanes have not been actively recruiting the Millwood star recently and have not visited Oklahoma City this spring. Turner plans on taking an official visit to MIami in the fall.
A tweet from Gerry Hamilton confirms that Texas is probably now the leader for Turner:
Texas is the leader for Oklahoma City Millwood CB prospect Josh Turner. Nebraska and Oklahoma in the hunt. Miami fading.
Certainly good news for the Longhorns, although Turner's intention to take an official visit to Miami in the fall extends his timetable past late summer when he originally planned to commit. Unless the Hurricanes decide to begin seriously pursuing Turner, who grew up as a Miami fan, it looks like the star cornerback could well end up in burnt orange.
AS-J recruitment continues positive progress. At this point, only the most skeptical skeptics could doubt the sincerity of Gig Harbor (WA) tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkin's interest in Texas. And now, with tight ends coach Bruce Chambers making the journey out to the Pacific Northwest ($) on Tuesday to watch AS-J practice in person, there's no reason to doubt the sincerity of interest on the part of the Longhorns, either.
Even if most Longhorn fans don't doubt AS-J's interest level, the release of his junior film last week raised some questions about his straight-line speed, which wasn't showcased on the nine-minute long highlight reel. His coach reported AS-J as timing consistently in the 4.7s in workouts and the mammoth tight end helped put to rest some of the speculation with the news that Chambers clocked him at 4.65 on Tuesday during his workout, even better than the recent times reported by his own coach.
Speed questions aside, the next step, as it has been for some time, is for AS-J to make it down to campus, which he plans on doing for the June 13th camp. The current plans have the visit as being for the entire weekend, with the family flying in on Friday evening and spending the next day touring the campus before participating in the camp on Sunday. And the good news seems to keep on coming as AS-J's recruitment develops -- he plans on majoring in business and the quality of the McCombs school should represent a major appeal, in addition to the beautiful campus and exceptional facilities.
There hasn't been much talk about a timetable, but an offer does look like it will be forthcoming during the visit and it's safe to expect that the process will draw out, likely well into the fall with official visits. It's not a stretch to say that if the Longhorns aren't his leader, they are certainly darn close to it.
Wallace, Rasco still on the board? Besides the ongoing developments with AS-J, the most surprising news of the last several weeks is that the Longhorns are still pursuing Skyline linebacker Anthony Wallace and Shreveport Evangel defensive end Jermauria Rasco after both recruitments looked to be finished following commitments from three linebackers and Cedric Reed in the 2011 class.
After not hearing from the Longhorns for some time after the commitment of Kendall Thompson at the second Junior Day, the Texas coaches re-established contact with Wallace ($) during the May evaluation period as Bruce Chambers and Will Muschamp showed up to practice at Skyline (although they surely would have anyway, given the talent at the school) and invited Wallace to the June camp, which the talented linebacker plans to attend. It's hard to believe that the Longhorns will be in a position to take a commitment from Wallace late in the process, but the Texas coaches clearly aren't closing the door on that possibility.
Likewise, Rasco. After Cedric Reed committed in late April, it looked like the Longhorns were done at the position. As with Wallace, the Longhorn coaches showed up in Shreveport ($) to check on Rasco, with Will Muschamp and Oscar Giles making the trip. Rasco isn't naming favorites at this time and doesn't have any camp plans at the moment due to transportation issues, but noted that "everything is still good" with Texas."
The Longhorns have talked with Rasco about playing the Buck position last occupied by Sergio Kindle, on the opposite end of the line from Cedric Reed, who will almost certainly play with his hand on the ground at Texas, possibly even as a five technique or situational three tech, while Alabama wants him as an outside linebacker, a position Rasco hasn't played before and with which he doesn't seem particularly comfortable, to the extent that Alabama could be losing ground with him. So far, there haven't been any rumblings about the Buck position hurting the Longhorns' chances, but having room for Rasco when he makes a decision is still a longshot, as with Wallace.
Talkin' rankings. As mentioned earlier, the major surprise in the latest Inside Texas Top 100 was Charles Jackson vaulting into the fifth position, but there are several other notable elements that deserve discussion. First is the first position in the rankings, now held by Spring Westfield defensive tackle Desmond Jackson, who supplanted Malcolm Brown in the top spot.
It's an unusual ranking in that the national lists from Tom Lemming and Scout both have Jackson ranked behind the top three running backs in the state -- Brown, San Antonio Madison's Aaron Green, and Abilene's Herschel Sims, who is more highly considered by the national experts at this stage than he is by Geoff Ketchum. Lemming, in fact, has eight Texans in front of Jackson at no. 87 -- the three running backs, Steve Edmond, Cedric Reed, Trey Metoyer, Trevon Randle, and Garrett Greenlea, while Scout has Jackson behind only the running backs at no. 17.
Another major discrepancy between the Inside Texas list and the two national lists is the ranking of Galena Park North Shore's Sedrick Flowers, ranked second by Howe and unranked by Lemming, though he comes in at 64 with Scout. Flowers will play his collegiate position of guard as a senior, which should help in the rankings and when the final rankings come out next January, expect Flowers to be among the top several guards in the country, if not the top-ranked player at that position.
On the two national lists, it's worth pointing out that Chandler (AZ) offensive tackle Christian Westerman comes in at no. 8 on Scout's list and ranks 22nd by Lemmning. The rankings suggest that Westerman would clearly be a top-five player in the state of Texas this year and Howe's affinity for him could possibly push him high enough to challenge Jackson for the top spot.
Scout is also high on Garrett Greenlea (no. 21), Steve Edmond (no. 28, no. 41 by Lemming), and Leroy Scott (no. 32), who comes in four spots ahead of Josh Turner. Lemming favors Cedric Reed more than Scout (no. 30 vs. no. 54), as well as Austin Seferian-Jenkins (no. 27 vs. no. 44). AS-J is the second-ranked TE by Lemming and comes in fourth by Scout. Sheroid Evans (pronounced like Sherrod, for clarification purposes), ranked 7th by Inside Texas, does not appear on either national list.
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Good read this early morning. Thanks!
Time to brew some coffee.
Ghost, I know you’ve been asked this before, but given the recruiting news here, how would you rank these guys in terms of need and want (please include Malcolm Brown)? I haven’t had the time to watch anything on Jackson yet but everything sounds good.
Here’s mine for both:
1. Malcolm Brown/Aaron Green
2. Josh Turner
3. Charles Jackson
4. AS-J
5. Rasco
6. Wallace
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Here's my list, based on need.
I’ll only go five because I don’t think there is any way that the class goes behind 25 at the absolute most.
1. Josh Turner
2. Malcolm Brown/Aaron Green
3. Charles Jackson
4. AS-J
5. Quincy Russell
My argument here is that the Longhorns desperately need two cornerbacks who can come in and play right away and I think Leroy Scott is one and Quandre Diggs could potentially be another, but it might take a bit of time to figure out where he is going to end up. I think Sheroid Evans, for all his talent, probably will need some time with technique switching from safety in high school to cornerback. Turner would be huge because he can play right away I think and Jackson could potentially as well, though I’m less sure about that.
All that assumes that Aaron Williams will indeed turn pro after this season.
Running back is obviously a major position of need, especially in terms of landing a big-play threat, but I think the Longhorns could get away with taking only one back in the class since Traylon Shead will almost certainly redshirt. Under the assumption that Williams would come back for his senior season, the running backs would be closer to the top need, but I think I would still put cornerback first.
I ranked AS-J behind Jackson for the reason of pressing need as well because DJ Grant should be ready to be a big-time contributor by the time that AS-J would make it to campus and ahead of Russell because of the depth at defensive tackle and the need for a tight end who can be a major threat as a blocker and a pass-catcher — there’s no information available on how well Grant will be able to block at the collegiate level.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone I have talked to that I trust about projecting high school talent to college view Evans as a safety all the way. Diggs could play corner, but I don’t see him starting right away and again I have heard him more at free-safety than corner. Big issue for him will be the height. Jackson makes plays, has the size-build -physical nature Will supposedly wants from his corners, and the kid’s speed is good enough.
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd put Brown #1
UT has only taken 1 RB in each of the last 2 classes, and one of those is already being mentioned as moving to H-back. Cannot afford to not take a true RB in this class.
by Horncasting on May 26, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Concerning Aaron Williams,
has he ever personally mentioned the possibility of going pro after his Jr. year … or is just that everyone sees him as so good that he’ll definitely jump? Maybe I missed him saying something about moving on. I too think he’s played great but it’s not like he’s been a slam-dunk all-american yet.
Mack mentioned that they could lose all 3 top CB's after this year
in a press conference this spring in response to a question about the importance of A. White being on campus this spring and getting the young DB’s playing time in 2010. He didn’t mention Williams specifically by name.
Thanks so much. I musta missed that statement.
The argument that he’s leaving seems a lot more likely now.
Texas will lose Jackson if they slow play him. The core and grades are not an issue and the longer this goes the less chance the Horns have to land him which would be a damn shame. I realize that Texas can’t land everyone, but if Mack’s credo truly is Texas kids first then make the fucking offer.
I have to agree with Davey O'Brien and always thanks to GOBR
Texas shouldn’t slow play Charles Jackson. Let the young man know that if he is at the camp on June 6th that he will receive an offer.
At the same time I would let Josh Turner know he is still our top out of state prospect and that offering Charles Jackson is more about offering a talented kid than offering another cornerback. I think Jackson and Turner both understand that Texas has a need at cornerback and that they both will play right away.
Great news GOBR on AS – J. If AS – J plays at the 40 Acres you have to attribute it to his persistence in recruiting Texas just as much as Texas recruited him and Texas’ national brand.
I would remind everyone that Inside Texas has Charles Jackson ranked 9 spots ahead of Leroy Scott, so going off of IT’s May list, Charles Jackson is the top corner in the state of Texas and becomes a must get. In Mack We Trust, but come on coaches give Jackson some assurances and an offer on June 6th.
Tom Lemming is a Notre Dame, Upper Midwest and East Coast honk. Mr. Lemming needs a long, painful lesson on the slow death of the Rust Belt and the massive population shift to the Sunbelt. More people living int he Sunbelt = more talented high school football players. That equation is blasphemy to Tom Lemming. Asking Lemming about recruiting is like asking Lou Holtz and Beano Cook who is going to win the national championship every year. Either way, your answer is coming back with a golden domer tint. I’ll take the top 22 guys in Texas over the top 200 guys in the Rust Belt any day.
Class of ’09, Hook ’em.
by billfromlaketravis on May 26, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I think part of the reason they are waiting till June 6th
Is that they want to evaluate him in person. They have already told him if he performs well there will be an offer there for him and this is keeping in line with Mack’s (most of the time) policy of the athlete getting on campus before he receives an offer. On top of that, there is less than two weeks till camp. I am willing to hedge my bets that we are not going to lose him in the next 2 weeks in order to get a closer look at him.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Don't forget Greelea is a teammate
So we’d potentially have someone in his ear for the next 8 months.
by Horncasting on May 26, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point on Greenlea. They have to like the possibility of playing college ball together at Texas
by billfromlaketravis on May 26, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Klein Collins has multiple athletes either at UT or on the way
Aside from Garret you have 2 baseball players that are on scholarship and another that is a walk-on, 1 tennis player on scholarship, 2 current KC volleyball players that have committed, 2 KC baseball players who have committed, and wo tight-end Cameron Wendt is from KC. The enviroment is postive for Texas and Drew isn’t going to push his kids towards any one school (i.e. Benny Davis with Mike Goodson).
My biggest frustration in this entire process is the recruiting process of both Greenlea and Jackson. Both these kids tore it up as juniors in a very competitive district and both are among top-5 prospects in the state at need positions for Texas. They didn’t just fall out of the sky and Texas did a poor job early on with them. Big ground was made up for both and it would be a damn shame. I can’t see a downside to offering and getting Charles before you know about Turner. You know you have two lock-down corner prospects and possibly have a third.
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
But I dont think Mack is slow playing
For sure we would take 2 corners – so in that case Turner does not affect Jackson. I think he just burst on the scene a little late – and Mack wants to get to know what kind of a person he is.
Per ESPN
Which cites Insidetexas as its source, they said that Jackson said his hard work on improving his grades is part of what is getting schools to start offering. So, that would make sense because we don’t like to offer kids that are not going to qualify.
Good stuff
I don’t see any real downside to continuing to actively over-recruit the class, especially targeting out of state kids. Recent complaints have been that (A) Mack favors in-state kids too much, and (B) Mack is too willing to take kids that will commit on the spot rather than play the recruiting waiting game. In a situation like this, where Mack already has a full cache of a top 10 recruiting class, he can now afford to (A) cherry-pick, whether in-state or out-of-state, and (B) slowplay the game and over-extend offers. While this may seem contrarian to the Mack we know, it’s a perfectly acceptable practice. Why not extend an offer to Jackson and see which cornerback we can get? Why not offer top-flight out of state talent like AS-J and Rasco and see if we can’t put a dent in NW or LSU recruiting? At the very worst, it gets the “Texas name brand” out there and shows that Mack is willing to pursue top-flight talent. While it may not pay dividends in this year’s class, it could go a long way to setting the foundation for future Mack (and hopefully, Muschamp) recruiting classes.
by jc25 on May 26, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Great point on the recruits marketing Texas
The longer we have our name out there the better it is for the program. In years past when the class was full during the Spring Texas recruiting would fall off the map for the next 8 months of the year. Not saying this is bad because that means you have your class wrapped up, but if you have to wait on some prospects to make their decisions then its not bad to be mentioned consistently among the best player(s) in the nation at their respective positions.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
outstanding update, gobr
coupla comments.
i stick by my claim that this class is special and that it will hit the big two seven. the surprising news that we are still hot on rasco and wallace make me even more sure.
regarding as-j’s speed. don’t forgot what was said at the nike camp: ‘His speed and fluidity were tremendous throughout all drills . . . best tight end we’ve seen at any Nike Camp this year.’
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions
27?
How do you make the numbers work out that way? We’re already going to be over the 85-limit, counting on some attrition, I believe…
i don't mean to be ugly selim . . .
. . . but talking to daed elpoep gives me the creeps. ewwww
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, GOBR
Sorry if I have asked you this before, but being an alum of Arlington Heights (FW), I;m interested to know if we are in contact with Marquis Jackson. Any interest from either side there?
There was some
but he couldn’t make it down to the second Junior Day and an offer for him would have come as a defensive back and that brings a couple of things into play: 1) he might not want to switch to the other side of the ball, and 2) he’s probably not quite fast or fluid enough to be a cornerback. I think both sides have moved on at this point.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
2010 and 2011 DB's
We currently have 7-9 DB’s (depending on Cobbs, Phillips, Diggs, etc.) for the 2010 and 2011 classes combined. Is there really room for 2 more? If CB is really a need at this point, then it looks like we took too many S/Ath. 9-11 just seems like an awful lot to carry from 2 classes.
On a related note, if we get at least one of Turner/Jackson, Brown and Russell, what could we possibly need to recruit for 2012? Seriously, will there be a “need” at any position? I can’t think of one.
considering the "failure" rate
whether it be due to injuries, grades, behaviour issues (hopefully not), or simply not panning out, I would think that CB one of those areas (along with OL) that you overrecruit. I’m still very green when it comes to examining the recruiting game, but it would seem that it is usually easier to find very good talent at the other positions on the field, and harder to find it, consistantly, on the OL and defensive backfield.
Maybe that ‘s just been school specific…I honestly don’t know.
Fair point
But think you could make the same argument for RB, DT and TE recently. DT and TE concerns seem to be addressed in these classes, but not near the overrecruiting at DB (and/or WR if Diggs/Phillips/Cobbs end up there).
by Horncasting on May 26, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Texas has over recruited at TE
You currently have Smith, Irby, Grant, Matthews, Jones, Graham, Terrell,and I believe the kid from Brenham with at least McFarland on the way. Smith is gone after this year and I don’t think Irby is ever coming back. That leaves 7 te’s on the 2011 roster without Jenkins if no one else leaves. I really don’t think you need 1/12 of your roster tied up in a position that normally only has 1 player at a time on the field.
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
a lot of these buggers are going to be cross-trained . . .
. . . at h-back as well. may not be unusual to see two of this group at the same time.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's more flexibility than depth concerns
I think the coaches want to play each kid at the position they would be best at. If Diggs is better in the slot than as a DB then why not play Diggs in the slot if there’s not a need at DB. The same applies to Cobb and Phillips playing offense vs. defense.
by billfromlaketravis on May 26, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
There's only one cornerback in the sophomore class
and the loss of Marcus Davis has obviously thinned the numbers. I think Cobbs will get every chance to excel on offense and the coaches want at least one of Bryant Jackson and Adrian Phillips to end up at cornerback and Sheroid Evans as well.
Clearly, cornerback will be less of a need in 2012, but running back most likely will be a need, but I think you make a strong point in there not being any other extremely pressing needs.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If he's anywhere on offense
it will be as a RB. There is just too much talent at WR whereas there is a possibility to get in at RB and display his versatility.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
i heard him described (i think by gobr)
as a bigger, faster ogbonnaya. i like that thought.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I realize Will likes bigger corners
but the issue I have heard about Jackson and Evans at the corner position is that they are a bit taller than preferred and might not be as fluid as a corner in that 5’11" to 6’ range. I know that there is the belief that Evans can be developed much like Michael Huff, but if you have a guy with that size and range is it better to use it at corner or provide the flexibility Mike did to the safety position?
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer safety
Look at what Earl Thomas did vs. Aaron Williams. AW is great, but if you avoid him he doesnt have much of an impact. Earl was a beast roaming the middle of the field.
Jackson is slightly under 5-10
and I haven’t heard any concerns about the fluidity of Evans. All three starting cornerbacks right now are six feet or taller.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Charles is taller than that,
Curtis and AJ are a little over 6’ and interestingly enough the corner who struggles the most with his mechanics is the tallest
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
From Gerry Hamilton:
Klein Collins junior CB Charles Jackson (5-9, 173, 4.45) picked up an offer from Nebraska today following Texas Tech earlier in the week
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care what Gerry posted,
the tape we use to measure our son bare footed and toes up in our house says he is a little over’ and Charles next to him in track spike is not 3" shorter. Then again I have seen Charles maybe 100+ times next to our son so I could be wrong.
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
then again
a stanley steel measuring tape has been known to lie
by davey o'brien on May 26, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if there are only 23 spots left in the class, the need at cornerback is so significant that adding another player at the position could take precedence over adding another defensive tackle, for instance, and certainly takes precedence over another defensive end or linebacker.
Typo?
I think he missed a hyphen. "2-3"
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on May 26, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
no typo, we’re going to sign 43 players this year…. give the collective SEC a run at the title of “most oversigned class”
by Displaced Longhorn on May 26, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I’d actually like to see that happen, just so I could watch Saban scramble to sign 50 next year.
Turner is at the top of my list
Because taking the best player in OK two years in a row would be beyond sweet.
by CMDR on May 26, 2010 11:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
My guess....
I’ll go with 7 more. I don’t know how Texas fits them all, but still……
1. Josh Turner
2. Malcolm Brown
3. Charles Jackson
4. AS-J
5. Quincy Russell
6.Aaron Green
7.Rasco/Wallace/Surprise Recruit that maybe has a really strong Sr. season.
pete, do like i do
i set the numbers and let the coaches work it out. : )
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i think my seven and maybe the order in which they come in:
jackson
russell
seferian-jenkins
turner
rasco
wallace
brown
then we go really hot after gray next year.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 26, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me or
While Mack and Boom do a fantastic job on the recruiting front – it seems like they are being even more dilligent and aggressive this year. Is that the case or is it just the recency effect?
I think they try to learn from past mistakes every year
so they are continually refining and fine-tuning the process.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 26, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
the only problem
is the process puts too much emphasis on sophomore year and camp performance and doesn’t really allow much room for improvement in the senior season and grade concerns. consider both stonum and white. neither got offers due to the “texas” process. stonum could help this offense big time and i don’t believe each of the 4 wide receivers are better than white. one miss might not impact texas in 2010 but the other might have an impact
GoBR
You think you can do a basketball recruiting board anytime soon? Time to start thoroughly getting into the last couple spots for the 2011 class and addressing 2012 and maybe in 2013.
I could probably do that
but I don’t think it would be until later in the summer when basketball recruiting heats up and everything else slows down.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 27, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Basketball Recruiting
I’d just like to add that I hope Texas lands the talented 2012 Guard out of Houston (Second Baptist) LJ Rose. I’ve heard that Rose is really talented.
Thanks GoBR
Appreciate how much you put into this.
BigPete: There is some info about Rose on Hornfans (primarily from poster 3ball) if you’d like to check it out. It’s not much, but still interesting. It’s on the basketball board under the thread title about UT locking down 2011 recruiting. He and I go somewhat deep into 2012 and 2013 stuff (or he SUCCEEDS and I ATTEMPT to somewhat keep up) that is pretty enticing. Those classes look like they could end up being our best ever already. State is stacked with talent both years.
Quincy Russell
I’m surprised that he hasn’t re-committed by now. There is a lot of talent coming up on the board and I am beginning to wonder if he going to be odd man out.
He may have a false sense of security If he thinks that just because he is the top remaining DT target that he won’t lose his spot to guys in other positions that give their commits.
Is there even active communication still with Russellt?
Yup.
Texas is still in it with Russell.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 27, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Safety Franklin Shannon from Skyline
Just commited to the land thieves. Seems like he is a pretty highly ranked safety. I sure hope they don’t get LB Wallace, but they have pretty good luck at Skyline.
Anthony Wallace almost committed
On his last visit to Norman. Said he wanted to commit, but his mother said to wait until after his summer visits. Not exactly sure where we stand with him now, but I am pretty sure we are still looking good.
by KratosWasASooner on May 29, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Conventional wisdom
has held for some time that Shannon and Wallace have a high likelihood of ending up in the same place. I expect Wallace to become a Sooner.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 29, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what she said
I mean, I agree. I’m not really good with jokes.
by KratosWasASooner on May 30, 2010 3:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks GoHornsGo90...
That was a pretty nice read on basketball prospects on that thread.
I really hope Texas gets Rose and Austin in the 2012 class. I also like the Harrison twins, Derrick Griffin in the 2013 class as well. I’ve heard that 2013 prospect Julius Randle is really talented.

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