Austin Seferian-Jenkins back on radar
by tcuhorns on May 4, 2010 6:26 PM CDT
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I read this off of orangebloods free board. In it he says that he might go to Florida, Bama, or Texas. I dont know if we're in his top 3 but were back on the radar. It also says Major Applewhite has been in contact and Jenkins has spoken with Cedric Reed. Is this foreshadowing more attrition to come or the coaching staff still not 100% sure on McFarland? Whatever it may be. The kid has already visited Austin once and has repeatedly expressed interest in Texas.
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This is the second time in about a week or so that he has mentioned Texas.
The first time that a coach contacting him was mentioned specifically. Since there are only three spots left in the class and those are likely to go to a RB, DT, and CB (possibly two CBs), then I just don’t see how Seferian-Jenkins fits into this unless there is going to be some attrition at the position, most likely Blaine Irby giving up on football. The last that I heard, he was still trying to come back, but may scrap those plans if his knee hasn’t responded by the start of the summer session or some time early in the fall.
Seferian-Jenkins would have to make it in for the summer camp I think to receive an offer and though he said that he coudl see himself playing at Texas, it’s just hard to see this happening.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 4, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
Offer fishing?
Could he be offer fishing? I know some guys take pride in their offer list, and Texas and Oregon are 2 schools that have not yet offered. He went to a camp at Oregon and puts Texas in his top 3?
And I know the numbers might be tight, but if I am an offensive coach, I want this kid. 6’7" – 250 at TE? Yeah, I would want this kid.
By the way, I know we are going after the running back in Brown, and I like Turner and Russell at DB and DT, but if you look at the numbers in the positions, why so certain that these 2 positions have to be the ones we get?
With 4 DTs and 4 DEs in 2010-2011 classes without the potential LB spin-downs…. and 6-7 DBs in the 2 classes already. If we don’t add any pieces there, (or maybe just 1 more DB) would it be so terrible?
At this point, shouldn’t the coaches just go (parden the Draft jargon) Best Player Available?
Just a thought…..
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
ASJ could certainly be offer fishing.
Without any confirmation of actual interest from sources close to the program, it’s almost impossible to tell if that is the case.
As far as numbers, cornerback is a position of need because it’s hard to tell how many of the defensive back commits will be able to play the position in the 2010 and 2011 classes. Byndom and White are the only guaranteed corners in 2010 and Phillips and Jackson may not work out there. In 2011, Scott is the only guaranteed corner, with Evans the most likely guy to get a shot there.
Would definitely say that DT is less of a need and you could make a case that having a legit tight end like ASJ would be more important than another DT, but I always go back to all the attrition recently at DT and how tough it is to recruit there. Of course, TE is hard to recruit as well, which I think is the best argument to go after ASJ.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 4, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
interesting
especially in light of will not getting to go after vaughters. of course, the linebackers we have in the queue have a lot to do with that.
doesn’t sound like we think as-j is offer fishing. that says a lot there. recall we are routinely disinterested in comments that aren’t backed by at least some historic display of serious intent.
regarding surprise that we seem to be serious about as-j, i’m sure the coaches have a much higher regard for how much david thomas meant in that title run than most of us, and with the position being difficult to recruit and stay healthy, i bet they’d like to knock that ball clear out of the parking lot. this sounds very much to me like the cobbs recruitment last year, and i’m betting that as-j is driving this.
speed of tight ends this year seems to be a huge issue. i’ve not seen any mention of as-j’s speed other than a comment from you, gobr, mentioning his remarkable combination of size and speed, particularly in light of his athleticism as witnessed by his excellent basketball play. he certainly has the size for the position, and i’m one who thinks exceptional speed at tight end is a bonus. i never thought pat fitzgerald or david thomas were at all remarkable in their speed but stand out as the most productive at that position for us that i can remember. savvy, hands, athleticism, and strength strike me as more important than speed. even football speed.
that said, i’ve not seen any footage on as-j like i have mcfarland—and i’ve very pleased with mcfarland—so i don’t have any feel whatever for his speed/quickness. can anyone comment on that? i’m more interested in description than numbers. 40 times are becoming a joke in search of a really good punchline.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 5, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No listed 40 time.
Not even a fake one, which is interesting. I don’t think he’s faster than McFarland — I would probably put him in the 4.7-4.8 range, which is a little bit on the slow end to really be stretching the seam, but he’s such a big target that he doesn’t need to create much separation to be open.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 5, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
ok by me
david thomas wasn’t a long distance home run hitter, he just kept the chains moving. that opens things up just fine, i gather. can you imagine the title game without him? actually you can. we saw one without blaine irby.
what you say is about what i expected.by rumplestiltsglenn on May 5, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
And you are probably right
I actually wrote that whole thing and then at the end as I thought about it, I added the (or maybe 1 more DB) part because we really do need another DB.
So they have to be going hard after both Brown and Turner/Jackson, but maybe a tossup after that between a DT like Russell/Anderson or a TE like ASJ (if we even have a realistic shot at this kid). I know we already got McFarland, but 6’7" 250 lb Junior in HS TE’s don’t come along very often. That is a huge target in the middle.
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
And a good thought
But CB after the 2010 season could be stripped of everyone who was in the program this school year except for Eryon Barnett and the just-enrolled Adrian White, so CB is a definite priority. Defensive tackles have been so hard to get (and keep) in recent years, I can see that being a priority.
There will definitely be some attrition between now and signing date, so more than 25 signees isn’t impossible. But attrition must eat up 8-10 current players for that to happen.
Brown and Turner are two players that we have to wait on and hopefully they decide to play for the Longhorns. I agree with what Swim Texas said and take the best player available…if it be an out-of-state player or a guy like Russell or Wallace. We don’t know if one of the six OL commits might get scared of the competition and de-commit and open a spot open for someone else.
My buddy in HS was an OL
recruited pretty good D1 level and he said those guys don’t really look at numbers too much. With a class of 2 in front of them, 5 spots on the line, and like 90% of OLs at this level redshirting, they just expect that it takes a couple of years for most of them to develop and find their spot.
As opposed to a WR, DB, or RB who do not need to add 30lbs to contribute, so they think they could/should play right away.
Anyway, What do I know? But thats what he always said, so…….
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
There is some thought that he could end up at tackle
I think his blocking ability is pretty advanced at that position, but I think if he can stay around 260 or so he could be an excellent tight end because he does have good receiving skills.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 5, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you and spirit
hands was my other question.
he could probably make more money at tackle, but if he can get open and can catch really well, i hope he doesn’t move there until he hits the league. actually hope he is so valuable at end that the league uses him there. great tight ends are too few in number. also hope he blocks well enough to consider we have three tackles in the game if he comes here. four if he doubles up with mcfarland, say.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 5, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this guy is more in the NFL TE category
6-7, 250 is within TE boundaries, you just don’t see many in college that can really catch. Jenkins can catch.
I thought Jenkins would be an eventual USC, UCLA or Miami hook-sort of a Seantrell Henderson type in recruiting- but it appears that I misjudged the guy. Not sure why, maybe because he reminded me of Jerramy Stevens at the time-same frame and also from Washington state. But Jenkins also has a Stanford offer, one indicator that he’s got a head attached. He’s shown maturity thus far in the process and he apparently went all out trying to impress everyone at the Eugene Nike Camp last week. If he’s looking at Florida, ‘Bama and Texas I have to think we have a legitimate shot at him. His current top 3 list (which doesn’t include USC, OU, Miami, etc) is exactly what we like to see . I’m pulling for him to make it to campus and get an offer in June.
As far as attrition we’ll lose Blaine Irby and/or somebody else in the next 15 months.
But this kind of highlights an issue that is developing. As we continue to gain in national stature there are recruits who will seriously consider us but will not decide immediately in the spring. This year we hit the lotto with Mike Davis, Darius White, Jordan HIcks and Jim Jeffcoat. For 2011 there will be similar recruits hanging around on the boards until the UA game. I think next December we’ll be looking at more attritiion from transfers to make room for a few 2011 surprises, especially if we have a great year.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on May 5, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys got Jim Jeffcoat too!?
I knew it! Call the NCAA!
by KratosWasASooner on May 5, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You won't have to use long distance
I think they’re in your living room right now.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on May 6, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Followed AS-J
For a few months when he started to blow up. For awhile Rivals had OU and Florida listed as his top 2, then I heard nothing about OU recruiting him since. He’s definitely an athlete, can block well, and snags most balls that are anywhere near him. Also, he knows how to get the ball at the highest point.
His biggest knock is that he is literally about 2 donuts away from being a pure O-Lineman. If he can keep his weight good, he will be a great TE, otherwise the pounds will pile up and his mobility will take a hit.
by KratosWasASooner on May 5, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
On the TE scene at OU
Does anyone know if Chris Barnett is going to be a decommit or have his offer withdrawn? I saw that Stevenson (TE from Klein Oak) has now committed and he is not that highly rated so it seemed like a strange offer. It makes me wonder if he isn’t the backup plan for Barnett not making it into the program. Barnett said he was visiting USC and other schools even after he commited to OU, so he didn’t seem very solid, and now he is having some sort of issues in high school.
Stevenson is probably the third-best tight end in the state
and his offer list was growing, so I think he will be moving up the boards. He’s a bit like McFarland in that he plays receiver in high school and I think he has better speed, but has farther to go in developing his body. He will be a project at tight end in college and will need a couple years in the weight room.
Haven’t heard anything about Barnett, but I expect that anything is possible with him.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 5, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw an interview with Barnett online
It was after he committed to OU but he was still talking about taking trips to U$C etc. He sounded like a recruit that had not made a commitment.
Based on the high school drama (which I have no idea what his father meant but it sounded bad) I was expecting him to be kind of flaky. He came across very professional, smart and articulate in the interview. He was little cocky, but not in a bad way.
He was asked what made him special and he said something like I’m too fast for LBs to handle and I’m too strong for DBs. I liked his answer and he chuckled when he said it.
As to Stevenson-I watched some tape of him and all I could make was that he was a big receiver with average speed. Based on some of the online stories he seemed to be shocked that he got the OU offer. OU’s numbers are tight, so I’m surprised they offered him early. I hope they fill their class with “projects” because sometimes those don’t work out.
haha his profile on espn has ou twice.
and his video is nearly entirely blocking
thank you, aid
i didn’t know that espn had vid on him. two, in fact.
i was pleased to see footage of him blocking, both on the line and downfield.
i don’t like to look at video of hot texas prospects unless they commit to us, but i agree with gobr that as-j is not at all likely to be a longhorn. i wanted to see how he moves and how physical he is. good receiver and BIG. really tall. moves well. like gobr said, speed very similar to mcfarland.
i hope he can stay at end/h back. and if he does come to a camp, i’ll take this seriously.
by rumplestiltsglenn on May 6, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
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