Bevo's Realignment Watch - Day 2
The biggest tremor is coming.
It appears the Big One will hit Tuesday, when the University of Texas board of regents meets to discuss the Longhorns' conference affiliation. Texas is a candidate to move to the Pac-10, which took Colorado from the Big 12 on Thursday. Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State also are candidates to move to the Pac-10. Texas A&M is being courted by the Pac-10 and the SEC.
We are heading west on Tuesday. Another highly places source says it is true, so you know it is the gospel truth.
The Horns and Aggies are not going to the Big Ten. Kent Hance knows this.
"That is not true," Chancellor Kent Hance said to KCBD NewsChannel 11 after learning of the report from Kansas City. "I have been assured by UT and A&M that it is not true."
It is a great time to join the PAC-10.
Think if these teams had been aligned the last 10 years. An OU-USC conference title game in 2002, 2003 and 2004. Texas-USC in 2005. OU-USC in 2006, 2007 and 2008.
In those seven seasons, OU played in three BCS title games, USC played in two and Texas played in two. In the last seven seasons, USC, OU and Texas have accounted for half the BCS title-game spots.
Now, it appears any road to a BCS title game is a little smoother for the Sooners and Longhorns. The Pac-8 winner won’t be easy, should the Pac-16 stage a title game. But Oregon or Cal or whoever doesn’t figure to be the caliber of the Carson Palmer Trojans or the Matt Leinart Trojans.
It’s the best possible scenario for OU and Texas to join the Pac-10.
Someone is following us.
California, here we come.
The University of Oklahoma and Oklahoma State University are headed for the Pacific-10 Conference, perhaps as early as next week, but they will wait until the University of Texas declares its intentions, a variety of sources said Friday.
NewsOK has an interesting timetable on how we got to this point.
Thanks to Crimson and Cream Machine for the find.
The Big 12 minus 2
This could all get very, very messy.
According to the league's handbook, Big 12 schools must give two years' notice and forfeit 50 percent of their conference revenue if they intend to leave.
Those buyouts increase if schools leave within the two-year window. That shouldn't be an issue, since Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott declared during a press conference Thursday that competition in an expanded Pac-10 wouldn't begin until 2012.
Still, the buyouts could become problematic and lead to severe infighting in the league's final two years of existence.
Kansas State president is just sure that the Big 12 will not dissolve.
Does he believe the Big 12 will dissolve altogether?
Schulz: I do not. We're going to see an initial round, with a school or two, that's going to take an invitation, and there will be some period of recollection, and time to think about what everything needs to happen. I think we will know in the next couple of weeks.
Someone wants to throw the Big 12 a life preserver. Only one man can save the day.
The dismantling of the Big 12 Conference is happening too quickly and too secretively for our tastes and, more importantly, for the state of Texas' own good.
Enough! A collective deep breath is in order for all concerned.
We suggest a formal timeout. We recommend that it be called — soon, please — by Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
Why Gov. Perry? In Texas alone, hundreds of millions of dollars of public and private money are riding on the decisions being discussed. As governor, Perry's duties straddle those two worlds. He is the right person to insist that this important debate be fully transparent and that all voices be heard.
Thanks to Infield Elephant for the photo.
It is those people in California. It has nothing to do with us.
''If A&M doesn't go, Baylor's got a window to go," the official said. "(Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech) -- none of them have anything against Baylor. We're not opposed to Baylor, and we've said positive things about them."
But, the official continued, "The schools on the West Coast just don't see the benefit of Baylor. The Pac-10 is talking more about Kansas and Utah because they bring different (television) markets. Baylor's been lobbying everybody around Texas. They need to be lobbying California."
Baylor's AD makes a statement.
President (Ken) Starr and I have repeatedly stated that we fully support the Big 12 Conference and want to see it continue and prosper. We also said that we think it is very important that the four Texas Big 12 schools remain aligned in the same conference. We want you to know that President Starr and I are continuing to work tirelessly and around the clock to preserve the membership of the Big 12. To the people of the state of Texas, the Big 12 contributes powerfully to our economy.
Where else are you going to go? Missouri is still committed to the Big 12. For now.
Relegated to a sideline seat for the first wave of college sports’ conference shake up, officials at Missouri said Friday they remain committed to the Big 12.
For now, anyway.
"We have obligations to our Big 12 Conference, first and foremost," said Missouri system president Gary Forsee. But he added that conference realignment is "a nine-inning game"—and it’s still the first inning.
But...Kansas and Missouri to the MWC?
According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Kansas, Missouri and Kansas State are on the Mountain West's radar amid a continuing shakeup of the Big 12.
Commish Dan Beebe is working overtime.
Numerous reports Friday indicated that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State could be just a few days out from jumping to the Pac-10 as well. Texas A&M is reportedly mulling over a decision to join the Southeastern Conference or the Pac-10.
Beebe, however, is hoping the remaining 10 Big 12 schools stay intact, as he's spoken the remaining institutions and said exactly that.
"We're working fast and furious to make sure they're convinced this is the place they should be," he said.
This isn't Dan's fault.
K-State president Kirk Schulz said Thursday, though, he doesn't want the blame to fall on Beebe or the Big 12 office. This problem the conference is now faced with rests on the member institutions that were open to a move, Schulz said.
"If somebody calls and says, 'Kirk, we want you to apply at University X,' there are several answers I can give them," he said. "One I can say is, 'Oh, I'm really interested.' Another is that we need to talk some more. The third is to just say, 'I have no interest whatsoever, I love being were I am.'"
"There is absolutely nothing coming out of the SEC on this. This is as
locked down as I’ve ever seen them. That should make some people
nervous because Slive is one of those "speak softly and carry a big
stick" kind of guys." - Tony Barnhart of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
This can't be good. A&M is thinking. If they don't make a decision, then they may lose out.
The Aggies may not have much time. Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was en route from Colorado to the states of Texas and Oklahoma with invitations in hand, a source familiar with the process told the Dallas Morning News. If the Aggies cannot commit, the Pac-10 is prepared to invite Kansas and its great basketball tradition. While the Jayhawks are desperate to find a landing spot, they would have to leave in-state rival Kansas State, a potential political problem.
The Aggies and the SEC are a good fit.
Such a move would push the league into Texas (great for recruiting), grow ratings in Top 10 markets Dallas and Houston (great for CBS and ESPN), and up the league’s academic reputation (great for SEC presidents). A&M already has natural rivalries and history with Arkansas and LSU as well.
A&M fits with the SEC from cultural, academic, and athletic standpoints. Unlike many of the potential expansion partners for the SEC, the Aggies also bring a lot of new value to the table.
If the SEC has to expand, A&M would appear to be the best case scenario at this point.
The Ags should listen to Tommy. He's been there.
"Well, they’d better really, really think about it before they cross those borders, and cross the Mississippi River, because it’s a totally different type of football, different brand of football, a different type of recruiting. You gotta really be careful as to what you are getting into."
"I think A&M is now big enough to stand on its own. We don’t need to piggyback on Texas." - A&M regent Gene Stallings
It is tough being the little brother.
So Texas A&M is making noise about going to the SEC. Regent Gene Stallings — who would be regarded as a double agent if his character wasn’t so pristine — is pulling for the Aggies to walk away from the proposed Pac-10 expansion and go to the Southeastern Conference.
You can understand A&M’s feelings. The Aggies don’t like to be told what to do by an arch-rival. Texas is calling the shots and has put together this conference expansion. So whereas Oklahoma and Oklahoma State have sort of shrugged their shoulders and let Texas do all the heavy lifting, A&M takes a little umbrage.
I Am The 12th Man is drinking the maroon kool-aid again.
The Big Ten plus 2
Bo Pelini is one happy guy.
"This beautiful girl, quite honestly, wasn't going to be there
forever." -- Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany welcoming Nebraska
into the league.
That's right, Jim. The beautiful girl is heading to the PAC-10. You get her not-so-pretty best friend.
Someone should tell Tom Osbourne. It really is all about the money.
"If you’re positive that a network can make 80 cents a subscriber in its footprint — then all of a sudden, if your footprint is double what it was going to be, and includes the West Coast states and the state of Texas, you’re talking about a considerably larger network," said Neal Pilson, the former president of CBS Sports and a television consultant.
Universities are realigning and seeking millions of dollars because they and college athletics in general are under extreme pressure to generate revenue.
"In light of the economic crisis in higher education and intercollegiate athletics, conferences are being looked at and expected by our membership to maximize revenues," Benson said. "This is all about maximizing revenues at the top."
It's not me, it's you. The Cornhuskers don't think they did anything wrong.
There's a ton of blame to go around. Much of it intertwined.
Texas didn't want to give up the rights to broadcast its games and possibly pursue the option of a Big 12 Network, for obvious reasons. They're the only team in the league who could pull off their own network, even if it was a longshot.
Missouri perhaps gazed too longingly at the Big Ten, hoping to join, fostering more instability in a clearly unstable league.
And though Texas couldn't promise to stay if Colorado and Missouri left, Nebraska staying would have made it a much more viable option and an easier sell for commissioner Dan Beebe.
But Nebraska blinked first -- and to their benefit. They don't have a responsibility to help their Big 12 North brethren. As the Husker brass, and other athletic directors, have repeated ad nauseum, their responsibility is to do what's best for their university. Moving to the Big Ten was their best option.
There are lots of contradictions.
Concerns over increased --and more difficult -- student athlete travel?
"We may have to fly a little more, the connections will be a little bit better," Osborne said. "We will not spend any more time on the road -- maybe less."
You're just mad about the conference's shift to the South, Tom!
"You don’t make a decision of this size based on where you’re going to play the Big 12 championship game," Osborne said. "That’s not even an issue."
So what happens when Nebraska's recruiting trail in Texas stops being beaten?
Osborne admits they may lose a few recruits in Texas, but they won't stop recruiting the state, and have now gained access to states like Ohio. And with more national broadcasts -- even in nonrevenue sports -- on the Big Ten Network, they may be able to recruit the oft-mentioned Sun Belt more than some people realize.
The rest
The super conference is here.
At 3:24 pm ET, college athletics changed forever.
That cannot be understated -- at all.
Super conferences, start your engines.
The Horned Frogs have ursaphobia.
Mountain West Conference sources confirmed that the league is sending out feelers to Big 12 members that may be left out in any continued conference shakeup, most notably Kansas and Missouri.
Kansas State would be another option. Baylor, however, would not be.
On the same day the Mountain West officially added Boise State, sources said TCU will lobby the conference against Baylor's inclusion should the Big 12 school be left out of the impending conference realignment.
Notre Dame isn't budging.
"We continue to be focused on trying to do what we can to maintain our football independence and ensure the long-term viability of the Big East," Notre Dame athletics director Jack Swarbrick told the Chicago Tribune yesterday. "Those two things aren’t impacted by the events of this week."
Translation: All this change is not scaring the Golden Domers one bit. That was the boldest move for the Big Ten, and not even all the upheaval could make Notre Dame budge.
I don't even know what to say about this.
The money quote from Osborne: "One school leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Two schools leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Six schools leaving a conference, breaks up a conference. We have not had a hidden agenda, we have not dealt with more than one conference."
T.O. intimated that Texas has been talking to the SEC, Big Ten and Pac-10.
It was a bad day for Texas' reputation. It was a good day for Nebraska's future.
Boise State is now an official member of the MWC.
Our new friends in the PAC-whatever
USC is pointing fingers and Alabama doesn't like it.
Alabama is denying claims that the school illegally contacted a Southern Cal player in the wake of sanctions handed down by the NCAA.
ESPN.com reported Friday (read the story here) that USC true freshman running back Dillion Baxter told the Trojans' compliance director that five schools -- Alabama, Florida, Fresno State, Oregon and Washington - contacted him Thursday.
Justice is served. Should the SEC celebrate?
So the NCAA finally slaughtered the sacred cow at USC. That’s cause for a league-wide barbecue in the SEC, but it creates a dilemma at the giddiest outposts.
In Tuscaloosa, they could build a statue to Committee on Infractions chairman Paul Dee, if they could overlook that Bookgate vacation.
In Auburn, they could roll Toomer’s Corner and fire up a fleet of John Deeres for what should rightfully be another national championship celebration.
In Knoxville, they could tear down a goalpost in Neyland Stadium and march it down Cumberland Avenue. They won’t get many other opportunities anytime soon.
There are few things on heaven and earth that can bring the fan bases of Alabama, Auburn and Tennessee together like karma crashing into Lane Kiffin.
USC still keeps that 2004 AP national championship.
The Trojans are having a fire sale!
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If A&M wants to go to the SEC
They’ll need a traveling partner. OU doesn’t make sense because you’re splitting OU ans OSU and they might not want to do that. The best traveling partner for A&M is Baylor. A close divisional rival/partner. Baylor’s problem is solved. So that’s Texas and Texas Tech in the PAC 10, A&M and Baylor in the SEC. They preserve one rival and aren’t alone in the SEC.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 1:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
plus
Baylor will give the SEC an academic boost.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 1:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Any A&M "partner" likely wouldn't come from the Big XII at all.
I’d bet money on Clemson…if this whole thing actually happens (and I doubt it).
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 12, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I would agree with that if I didn’t know our athletic director was Terry Don Phillips…
Although, there has been no small amount of hate between Tobacco Road (the power basketball schools in North Carolina who treasure a round-robin schedule, impossible with 12 teams) and the football powers (FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and now Virginia Tech) who are gonna want more teams to maintain relevancy.
Clemson/Atlanta Braves/Carolina Panthers fan, and inventor of the iChop, 5/31/10
Baylor
I think they deserve to be in a Super Conference because of the academics and quality of their athletic program. Yes, football hasn’t been good but are on an upswing, but they are strong in every other sport. If the PAC 16 is full and won’t take Baylor, the SEC is the only other fit geographicly.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 4:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure.
The SEC will not split their current television contract 14 ways just to get a piece of Baylor. They MIGHT do it for only A&M, though I’m not as sure of that fact as I was weeks ago.
Why does everyone assume the SEC will be able to renegotiate its television contract just because it adds one or more teams? If the other side doesn’t want to renegotiate… what can the SEC do? Why would they want to voluntarily split a contract price — that is set and will not increase — fourteen ways as opposed to twelve ways, just so they can have a piece of Baylor or the potentially diminished return on Texas T.V. markets when they renegotiate in, I dunno, 10 years?
Baylor and A&M
Has a good, healthy rivalry, They are close on the map and TV market wise they cover the same areas and can draw interes from being together. They can feed of each other in the SEC and allow for an easier transition. The two Universities being in the same conference will help keep each other strong. If A&M goes into the SEC alone with no close rival, I think in the long run this will hut A&M and weaken them. Texas in the PAC 16 will have Tech as it’s states counterpart. This makes so much sense on so many different levels if Texas goes West and A&M goes East. The 4 Major Universities in Texas need to stick together and if this spit is going to happen, A&M alone without a divisional rival in their back yard isn’t going to help the Aggies.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 5:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I might be convinced that A&M wants Baylor to come with them… but why does the SEC want Baylor? My impression is that: the SEC doesn’t 1)want A&M to have “an easier transition”; 2) doesn’t care whether A&M has an in-state rival, unless that in-state rival is Texas (for reasons unrelated to rivalry), or 3) help A&M. I view the SEC’s motives as predatory — Peter’s word — and your explanation for why the SEC wants Baylor sounds altruistic.
From a business standpoint, I don’t think Baylor along with Texas A&M makes any sense for the SEC for precisely the reason you stated; Baylor offers no television market that A&M does not.
The 4 Major Universities in Texas
I’m really curious what Baylor uses to distinguish themselves from the other large private universities in Texas, aside from a legislative spasm in the 1990s.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jun 12, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
it is distinguished from schools like the University of Houston, the University of North Texas, and Texas State by its relatively insignificant enrollment.
But besides that, totally major at being Baptist and stuff.
Texas, Texan Tech, A&M and Baylor have been together for over 100 years. That’s why Baylor is included with the other 3.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 5:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
This isn't a justification.
This is a statement of coincidence.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jun 12, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The SEC isn't sentimental.
They clearly didn’t mind taking Arkansas from the SWC, they’re not going to care about keeping rivalries from other conferences in tact. The SEC is only concerned with the SEC. Watch that same sentiment not get in the way when they go East to the ACC and rip founding member, Clemson, away from that league. It’s a brave new world and only the strong/savvy will survive.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 12, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Texas Tech founded in 1923, not even remotely close to 100 years.
Border Conference before the SWC was formed.
" Answers --Become Resources."
Without Questions, There are limited Resources...
cont.
This is why OU and OSU should stay together. Other examples are KU and K-State, Missouri gets lumped in with KU and K-State as a Trio. Iowa State has no divisional close rival and are weak because of it. Their close rival is Iowa in a different conference. Iowa state is a weak program. Colorado’s main rival i Colorado State in a different Conference, both are weak programs. Georgia Tech has suffered from not being in the SEC with Georgia. Other programs that are linked by conference and benefit from it are Alabama and Aurburn. USC & UCLA. Penn State & Ohio State, Michigan & Michigan State. Virginia and Virginia Tech
Together, Texas, Texas Tech, A&M and Baylor stay stong together by all being in the same conference. Texas and A&M split, Texas needs Texas and the Aggies will need Baylor.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 5:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But why would the SEC want Baylor?
I’m not convinced by the arguments, but I think you’ve done a great job explaining why A&M might want Baylor in the SEC, but I’m still grasping at why the SEC would want Baylor.
BU
It would boost academics, but I gues that’s wy the have Vanderbilt. There athletic program as a whole is strong. I’ve also been thinking that the SEC has been built solely on football and nothing else. Not even academics. Anything extra is accident like Florida winning in basketball.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 6:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you have any justification for asserting that Baylor would “help” SEC academics, please explain it.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Jun 12, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Please A&M, Please go to the SEC
Just go already. Why are you even dithering about it? Strike off on your own and prove to everyone you can succeed without Texas. There shouldn’t even be a discussion considering the moaning that’s been going on for the past countless years.
What is it with you and Baylor?
Buddy? Is that you?
by BrooklynHorn on Jun 13, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
USC's national championship
I find it kind of hypocritical that USC gets to keep their AP national championship when the AP took a revote for Cushing’s ROY award. I understand the difference of time has been a factor and that Bush’s cheating didn’t directly affect his on field performance, but it seem like they didn’t even consider taking a revote for the ’04 poll.
to me
If you are stripped from all your wins, you get stipped from the national championship. You can’t win the National Championship with 0 wins.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 3:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
it’s laughable for a player who was ineligible to play to be able to keep his trophy. He should be stripped and picture taken down and no winner for that year since VY said he wouldn’t accept the trophy. I say he should get it and let Texas hold the trophy if he doesn’t want it.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 4:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But, but...
Reggie was shocked, SHOCKED, that USC got punished. He has to be innocent.
by dimecoverage on Jun 12, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree with your premise
that his cheating didn’t directly affect his performance. First, the reported findings are the only ones we know about. If Student Athlete-1 broke the amateur rules, what other rules did he break? Were there academic shenanigans as well? Did he take PHD’s or HGH? We probably don’t know the half of it. Secondly, the kid did not have financial worries like his peers. He had it on a platter. Without the normal college athlete distractions, he was able to focus on his game and talent entirely.
For my money, USC got off light. I don’t think anyone is surprised the AP is not pulling the championship given their member’s known predilections.
"'I Am The 12th Man' is Drinking the Maroon Kool-Aid Again"
as in:

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Governor Perry
If Texas secedes from the US, can we still be in the Pac-16?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
no
We’ll have the Texas Conference and be National Champs every year.
That makes my BU point
A&M bring the Dallas and Houston (and Texas)market to the SEC. Weak though with A&M by themselves. With BU, those same makets would be stonger and more viable because of rivalry. A&M would be stronger with BU in the SEC, weaker without.
by Ryan2907 on Jun 12, 2010 6:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bringing BU
Would at least give a&m a team to beat so that it doesn’t make them look quite so stupid a year or two from now. Baylor would help the SEC;s academics— now that is a sad, sad statement.
What is it with Aggies and redundancy?
UPDATE: Texas A&M then added this statement late in the day.
“Officials from Texas A&M University and the University of Texas met in Austin today to discuss several topics of mutual interest to both institutions regarding recent developments affecting the Big 12 Conference.
The BIG 12 could still live....
It makes me sick to believe that we haven’t thought about this before we could make a more competitive BIG 12. We would allow Nebraska and Colorado to leave and still be better off.
We would find the two new teams. My preference would be we invite and add two
Here is an idea for the NEW and better BIG 12.
BIG 12 North
1. Oklahoma
2. Oklahoma State
3. Kansas State
4. Kansas
5. Missiouri
6. Iowa State
The BIG 12 South would allign like this…
1. Texas
2. Texas A&M
3. Baylor
4. Texas Tech
5. TCU
6. University of Houston
of couse we could take teams from Conference USA or MWC or any other host of subpar conferences not to mention if Missiouri ever decides to bless us and actually leave maybe we could add a team that would bring something in every sport.
BYU, Air Force, or even the Utah Utes would be a great addition.
TCU and, especially, UH add nothing of value
If the Big 12 were to survive, I’d rather stick at 10 and ditch the championship game.
by Hopkins Horn on Jun 12, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
stop thinking just football
TCU and UH would be just as competitive as OK state and A&M are not to mention that they both have good Baseball Teams and again Academics wouldn’t take a back seat. Not to mention a stronger hold in the Dallas and Houston Market wouldn’t hurt either.
Why?
The only sport that makes money is football. Football drives the bus, everything else is just along for the ride.
Academics is a big deal
I think people get confused about what the term “academics” refer to conference discussion. It’s not just admission standards and reputation of graduation degrees, although that’s important.
It’s also about hardcore research and the millions of dollars in science endowments, US research and military engineering funding, pharmco and the like. Texas is on the level of Stanford, California, UCLA for funding and academic research. TCU and Houston do not come close to that.
Do we want a BIG 12...
remember this is about surviville and finding a way for us not to join any confrence and at the same time making sure we don’t join the left coast conference or lower our standards by going to the SEC. Last I checked BU still has a good medical school and research department, of course its not Standford or Cal but if thats what we want. There is always Rice but we would bring absolutely nothing in football or basketball.
Baylor doesn't have a medical school
The medical school of the same name split apart decades ago.
"History lesson: Everything bad that has happened to Texas has been due to its association with the South. Everything good that has happened to Texas has been due to its association with the West." -- Paul Burka, Senior Executive Editor of Texas Monthly
by Hopkins Horn on Jun 13, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Killing Me
Again this is about keeping the conference together and we are already stuck with Baylor so this is actually more a UH or TCU or even Rice issue not about BU at all. So no that we have cleared that what is wrong with TCU and there 12-1 record last year, 10-2 2008, 10-2 in 2006, or yeah UH 10-4 heismen hopeful QB, and bowl eligible 4 of the last 5 years with defeats over OSU, Misssissippi State, and Texas Tech.
Can we take these [seemingly] daily posts...
in support of keeping the Big XII together, each with its assumption that it is the first of its kind, and each being EXTREMELY uninformed as to the months-long, on-going process of examining the nuances behind this issue, and label them the “You’re out of your element, Donnie” posts?
Perhaps BON could create an algorithm which recognizes these posts and simply sends them straight to the recycle bin of the poster’s desktop
by BrooklynHorn on Jun 13, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stuid, stupid Aggies
There are at least a a couple of SEC coaches who have privately endorsed adding the Aggies, our source said. They "really like the idea of expanding into the Texas (television) market and east Texas recruiting base without having to play The University of Texas on a regular basis. But I absolutely do not see A&M competing in the SEC since it was such an average team in the Big 12. I’m telling you, if A&M goes to the SEC, then it’s a much better deal for (Alabama coach) Nick Saban and (LSU) coach Les Miles than it is for (A&M coach) Mike Sherman.
The SEC is not going to add Baylor. They bring nothing to the conference. I guess women’s basketball could be argued. Like that matters to ADs. A&M is looking out for A&M, as they should. Supposedly the Pac 10 commish is going to make a stop in Aggieland after he has met with OU and y’all. Mike Slive was in College Station today. I am still hoping we end up in the SEC.
Huge mistake
if we add Texas A&M. Y’all may be ok with traveling from Austin to Seattle every other year (why? I don’t know), but I’m not ok with having to travel from Auburn to College Station every other year. Way too far. One thing I’ve always said I like about the SEC is how close the schools are to each other. Also, Auburn is right smack dab in the middle of it all. But once you add College Station in, that throws everything off. I’m absolutely against this.
Auburn Tigers Baseball -- 2010 SEC West Champions
by AUshorecm on Jun 13, 2010 2:06 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
There will be one long trip a year
They’ll go to Seattle once every eight years. Considering Texas athletics is pulling in north of $130 million a year even with a crappy television contract it’s not the largest sacrifice in the world to make for a stable athletics conference and boatloads of more cash for everyone.
Well, good for Texas.
Not that this is relevant anymore since they’re staying in the Big “12.” But I’m talking about personal finances, not the finances of an athletic program. I’m personally glad I won’t have to shell out the money to travel from Auburn to College Station every other year.
Auburn Tigers Baseball -- 2010 SEC West Champions

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