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Dear God,

that guy is an actual writer! I read half of it and figured it was some disgruntled fan of some at some PAC 10 or SEC school writing the equivalent of a “fanpost.” But that was an actual piece! He sat down and combed the inner workings of his mind so he could put forward a thoughtfull analysis of realignment with insight previously unheard and came up with that! I could’ve written that (and that’s not sayin’ much). Ehh, looks like he’s a Tennessee alum…probably still harboring some anger from the failed Muschamp poach last spring.

by kellen on Jun 16, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Clay Travis...

…is the same guy who asked Tim Tebow if he was a virgin a while back, wrote for Deadspin briefly, and went to Tennessee (and Vandy Law, which he loved to talk about on Deadspin!). He’s a funny guy and he’s smart but he’s got Deadspin-syndrome. That is, everything in sports isn’t really about sports, it’s about a metaphor to sports, and everything is black and white.

And regardless of your opinion of Texas, that’s a stupid article that doesn’t say anything that makes any sense. Here’s the internal logic: “Texas looks out for its own best interests above anything else, and does a really good job of it, and for that they are cowards.” It doesn’t make any logical sense and it’s not worth making a big deal out of it.

Travis is a pretty decent, snarky writer but you have to take the bad with the good sometimes.

by billyzane on Jun 16, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I have read some of his other stuff

but I don’t remember anything this bad. This is terrible.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Jun 16, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this article pretty much erases any good

Hard to believe this guy is “smart” or “decent” given this pile of garbage. Thayer Evans has some company.

by goingforthecorner on Jun 16, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extortion!!!!11

Let’s assess how we stole from these poor other nine:

The north four, Tech, and Baylor: doubled revenue, saved from CUSA or worse.

OSU: All of the above, plus we stuck with our word that they would stay with us even after PAC10 commish tried to knock them out of the deal.

Sooner and Aggy: triple revenue, actually saved Aggy from Mississippi State type irrelevance.

Such horrible mafiosos we are. Maybe for our next power grab we’ll stage some kind of charity bake sale. For an actual writer of some marginal ability, that dude is a total dumbass.

by Tackchevy on Jun 16, 2010 4:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

What?
How else to explain Texas and Oklahoma appearing in six BCS title games between them and racking up a bully-like 2-4 record with an average margin of defeat of more than 18 points in those games?

How does he get to 2-4? Texas alone has won one Rose Bowl and a Fiesta Bowl, and is 1-1 in National Championships. That’s 3-1, not including OU.

by notsofst on Jun 16, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Title games, not just BCS games.

Regardless, he threw OU in there for no apparent reason just because they’re 1-3 so it makes the record look a lot worse than Texas’ 1-1.

by billyzane on Jun 16, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah.

I did find this nugget on Wikipedia on Texas:

4 BCS Bowl appearances with 3-1 record in BCS Bowl games (75%) 2nd winningest trailing only LSU at 4-0 (100%)

I think, if I’m counting right, OU is 1-3 in NC games and 1-2 in other BCS…. 2-5 total.

by notsofst on Jun 16, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

what an idiot

Texas isn’t scared of any team, any conference, they are looking for the best option for the school and the athletic program. Don’t be mad about getting your hopes up on a pipe dream and then having nothing happen.

by Ryan2907 on Jun 16, 2010 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

NU running out of their own original conference

because they can’t beat Texas or OU and they aren’t the coward in this whole drama? But Texas carrying the load for the rest of the conference and is the bad guy. What a crock of stink.

Maybe he is just mad that a&m didn’t take the bait to get his team out of the sec basement.

by Wrangler86 on Jun 16, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Expect more of this from SEC homers

They’re used to thinking they’re the top dog in college football.

They’re not. We are.

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Jun 16, 2010 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

The truth hurts, don't it?

You guys wouldn’t be so riled up about this if it didn’t hit a nerve somewhere. Have fun with your yearly 50 point wins against Iowa State and Baylor. Along with your three other cupcake games, you’re bound to impress the hell out of the BCS. Good luck with that.

by daveman on Jun 17, 2010 3:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank you for stopping by and offering your compliments and best wishes.

We will in fact be enjoying ourselves with many more Top 5 recruiting classes, BCS game appearances, and increased revenue streams. And good luck to you in keeping up with the Joneses.

by TXStampede on Jun 17, 2010 4:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

the truth?

the article had no truth to it and was baseless. For the real truth go to orangebloods.com and read Chip Brown’s realignment timeline. The cowards were Colorado and Nebraska. Nabraska jumped ship because they were being beaten by Texas and OU and half the conference every year and Colorado feared being legt out of the PAC 10 so they knee jerked themselves right out of the conference. Colorado was becoming a laughing stock and Nebraska, well they were being Nebraska. The conference will be better without those to schools anyway. All the good/ranked teams were in the South and they all are still in the conference.

by Ryan2907 on Jun 17, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Um...

We’re getting this from a CAL fan who has played the likes of Washington and Washington State the past few years? Who plays in a conference ruled by one team until this past season (and still got romped by them 30-3).

By the way, we were better than you in 2004. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 17, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree that Clay Travis is a bit over the top in his article, but you guys are just responding to his name-calling with more name-calling, rather than actually looking at the issue that he raises, which is that Texas will, for the foreseeable future, only have one top 25 team on its schedule. If I were a Texas fan, that would worry me.

It’s true that Cal has played UW and Wazzu each year, but we’ve also had to play USC, Oregon and very good OSU, UCLA, ASU and Zona programs too (the Furd sucks and always will in my book). By adding a rebuilding Colorado program and a very competitive Utah program I think we’re adding to the competitive nature of our league. By losing Nebraska and Colorado, the Big XII has arguably decreased the level of competition.

If I were Texas, I’d look to add some teams from the Big Ten, SEC and Pac-10 to my future schedules rather than teams like Wyoming, North Texas, UTEP, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic and Rice.

I’m looking forward to the home-and-home with Texas in 2015-16 and hope that we can keep it scheduled. The Pac-10 is built on fairness and parity, which is why from time to time any team can become incredibly competitive. I’m not so sure that the same can be said for the restructured Big XII.

I get that you guys love Texas and want to see your football team do well every year — every college fan wants that for their team — but becoming the sun of the Big XII with the other nine teams revolving around you might not be what’s best for your school or football program over the long haul.

by daveman on Jun 17, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you really believe this?
…but becoming the sun of the Big XII with the other nine teams revolving around you might not be what’s best for your school or football program over the long haul.

Do you honestly think that what’s happened in the last 5-6 days is the end of this? We lost 2 teams from our conference. We’re going to HAVE to change our schedules. Why don’t you see how Texas reacts before throwing us under a bus.

by GoHorns on Jun 17, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, now this is a post that is worth discussing
I agree that Clay Travis is a bit over the top in his article, but you guys are just responding to his name-calling with more name-calling, rather than actually looking at the issue that he raises, which is that Texas will, for the foreseeable future, only have one top 25 team on its schedule. If I were a Texas fan, that would worry me.

He’s not a bit over the top; he’s simply spewing garbage to get a rise out of people. How do you know that for the “foreseeable future” Texas will only play one top 25 team? Just a couple years ago, the Big 12 South had as many as four teams in the Top 10. Texas ran a gauntlet featuring #1 Oklahoma, #11 Mizzou, #7 OSU, and #6 Texas Tech. He’s making the dumb argument that Texas did not want to leave because it is scared. Texas is clearly not scared of anyone, and anyone who knows anything about college football knows that Texas would be dangerous in whatever conference it was in. The reasons Texas stayed are varied and still not wholly known, but obviously with so much money on the line, one reason was most certainly not that Texas was being cowardly. That’s analysis from a simpleton, which Travis proved to be here.

It’s true that Cal has played UW and Wazzu each year, but we’ve also had to play USC, Oregon and very good OSU, UCLA, ASU and Zona programs too (the Furd sucks and always will in my book).

And again, Texas has played dangerous teams in Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, and Missouri. Are these elite programs? No, they are not. Neither are UCLA, ASU, and ’Zona. But they are capable of fielding competent squads that are dangerous on any given Saturday, and every once in a while they may field pretty good teams. This is not much different than the Pac-10: There are bottom dwellers, there are elite program (or at least one), and there are programs in the middle that, in any given year, can challenge at the top or go towards the bottom. Incidentally, this descriptive of the SEC as well, although there are generally more teams at the middle and top.

By adding a rebuilding Colorado program and a very competitive Utah program I think we’re adding to the competitive nature of our league. By losing Nebraska and Colorado, the Big XII has arguably decreased the level of competition.

Colorado can definitely rebuild, but right now that program is a mess and they were arguably the worst team in the Big 12 last year (Hawkins needs to go). Still, both of those programs are good additions by the Pac-10, in my estimation. Losing both NU and CU hurts the prestige of the Big 12, but Colorado hasn’t been relevant in football for a while and Nebraska has been down for a bit as well. It certainly doesn’t hurt basketball at all that these teams left.


If I were Texas, I’d look to add some teams from the Big Ten, SEC and Pac-10 to my future schedules rather than teams like Wyoming, North Texas, UTEP, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic and Rice.

Texas has sometimes tried to schedule “tougher” teams but things didn’t fall through. For example, Texas tried to schedule Utah, but Utah ultimately declined. And was just a few years ago that Texas had a series with Ohio State and played TCU in 2007 (Unluckily for Texas, that was not a particularly strong TCU team).

The Pac-10 is built on fairness and parity, which is why from time to time any team can become incredibly competitive. I’m not so sure that the same can be said for the restructured Big XII.

How is not “fair” for Texas to keep more TV revenue when it makes the most for the conference? That said, I’m not against complete revenue sharing, but it’s a little silly that people are complaining that Texas is making simply what it is earning (and the released numbers for the 2008 season showed Oklahoma at #1). And the “Pac-10 is built on parity” bit rings a little hollow when USC has dominated the conference the past decade (granted, Reggie Bush was getting paid). The Pac-10 isn’t exactly the ACC.

I get that you guys love Texas and want to see your football team do well every year — every college fan wants that for their team — but becoming the sun of the Big XII with the other nine teams revolving around you might not be what’s best for your school or football program over the long haul.

Believe me, we hate Oklahoma, but it would be foolish to discount them as a constant threat as long as Bob Stoops is there. As USC found out from time to time, it can be difficult even beating bad teams in your conference when everyone puts a bullseye on your back. Financially and in athletics in general, Texas may be the strongest program in the Big 12, but that hardly guarantees that Texas will always finish at the top in football. And if Texas does… that’s actually very good for the football program, because that means the recruits will keep coming and we’ll keep going to and winning BCS games.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 17, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

You make good, valid points and I am in general agreement with your responses. I think that a more balanced revenue-sharing model for the Big XII would help raise the caliber of competition for the Longhorns. I get that you and Oklahoma make most of the money for the conference, but in the same way that your football and basketball programs subsidize the rest of your collegiate athletic programs, spreading the wealth with the likes of Kansas State and Mizzou to help them stay competitive year in and year out would be beneficial.

You have to admit that Texas casts a long shadow and it will be tough for the Aggies, Cowboys and Red Raiders to keep up with the Longhorns in recruiting if there’s too large a disparity in money that the schools receive. Perhaps the only reason that Oregon has been able to bubble up to the top of the Pac-10 with USC is all the Phil Knight Nike money.

Like I said, I hope Cal gets to play Texas in 2015-16 because I think it’s good for our program to play quality teams consistently. I don’t think anyone is happy with the current BCS system (except for maybe the TV networks) and I hope that the system gets reformed so that there isn’t a way for anyone to “game the system.” I think that we can all agree on that.

by daveman on Jun 17, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't Worry

I have already let him know what a complete idiot he is, in no uncertain terms.

by SelimSivad on Jun 17, 2010 8:46 AM CDT reply actions  

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