Morning Coffee Looks at the Rest of 2011 Recruiting
Moving forward with 2011 recruiting. The commitment of Josh Turner on Saturday filled one of the last two large remaining needs for the Longhorns -- landing a top-flight running back is now the focus moving forward. At this time, the only outstanding offers are to Cibolo Steele RB Malcolm Brown, San Antonio Madison RB Aaron Green, Skyline LB Anthony Wallace, Shreveport Evangel DE Jermauria Rasco, Lewisville Hebron DB David Jenkins, and San Antonio Sam Houston DT Quincy Russell. Additionally, Gig Harbor (WA) TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins is likely to receive an offer when he makes it to campus in early August.
Turner's commitment was the 21st in the class, leaving only two spots until the Longhorns reach 23 commitments, thought for some time to be the target number, and only four spots until the Longhorns reach the limit of 25. Of those offers, Wallace and Rasco are the long shots due to numbers at the positions and conventional wisdom has Wallace joining close friend Franklin Shannon in Norman; two other Skyline players (Corey Nelson and Joe Powell) committed to Oklahoma in 2010. Despite some rumblings about LSU fading with Rasco, a source close to the situation believes the Tigers are still the team to beat.
That leaves the remaining major targets on the board -- Brown, Green, Russell, AS-J, and Jenkins. Until more news emerges and Jenkins actually gives an interview, it's hard to say for certain that he even has an offer and Turner's commitment could change that offer status had the Longhorns even extended it last week. Given the tight numbers in the class, don't be surprised if Texas backs off with the rising Dallas-area prospect.
And, as mentioned in Afternoon Brewsky yesterday, Russell made it to town for the second camp, but has declined to name any leaders since his de-commitment from Texas and he may not reveal any type of list until the fall when he takes his official visits. Even though there is plenty of depth at defensive tackle, it's a tough position to fill and Russell has added value because Brenham's Malcolm Brown is currently the only 2012 defensive tackle on the radar -- it is early, but it's not a great sign for the depth in next season's class.
Seferian-Jenkins is an important target because the Longhorns have struggled so much the last couple of seasons to keep tight ends healthy and 6-7, 250-pounders who can run are extremely difficult to find. Not only that, but AS-J is more ready to play physically than the only current commit at the position in MJ McFarland, who has less experience blocking. The fact that he was barely a blip on the radar when his interest surfaced and that the coaching staff could land a commitment from him with a minimum amount of effort speaks to the incredible recruiting success Texas is currently experiencing.
Throwing Rasco in with the other five remaining targets and ranking them in order of need would like something like this: 1) Brown/Green, 2) AS-J, 3) Russell, 4) Jenkins, and 5) Rasco. The first selection is a no-brainer, but the second two positions are much more arguable and Jenkins could even slot above them, but Russell and AS-J are much more highly considered nationally and though Jenkins is making a move, he won't reach the heights of the other two. AS-J ranks ahead of Russell because the Longhorns don't have a proven game-breaker at the position and because he could contribute earlier than Russell. Rasco ranks last because of questions about his frame and limited need at his position.
The offer to Jenkins, assuming that it did in fact happen, may be the last in the class other than a possible offer to Seferian-Jenkins, as no other prospects are on the radar. It would take a monster season from a currently unknown player. A Malcolm Brown commitment elsewhere could spark interest in another running back like LD Bell's Kenneth Farrow, currently flying under the radar of many programs waiting to see if he can bounce back from an injury last season. However, at this point the likelihood of an offer going to someone other than AS-J seems remote, at best.
Thunder and Lightning, Texas version? It seems like a pipe dream, especially considering how rarely package deals actually come to fruition in the world of college football recruiting, but Aaron Green and Malcolm Brown are not ruling out the possibility of playing together in college. In fact, it's a subject they have discussed before.
In some ways, it makes perfect sense -- both players hail from San Antonio, a city not known for producing top-notch talent that has experience a boom in recent years of impact players. Pride in their city could help convince the two that playing together is an appealing possibility. And their skill sets seem complementary -- Brown is the tough, downhill runner with the ability to break arm tackles and punish defenders, while Green is the slightly smaller, jet-quick back with incredible open-field moves. "Thunder and Lightning," as Green says.
Both have narrowed their college choices, with Brown now considering Texas, Alabama, and Florida State, and Green down to Texas, Florida State, Nebraska, and California. The only two overlapping schools are Texas and Florida State, with the home-state Longhorn the prohibitive favorite if the two do end up at the same school.
However, there are some road blocks -- Green's older brother, Andrew, as most know, plays at Nebraska and the discouraging news about Brown is that he didn't grow up in Texas, so leaving "wouldn't be a problem." Brown has spent two stints in San Antonio, for two years starting in first grade and then continuously since before his seventh-grade year. Florida State has hung around because of their consistent interest and Alabama is appealing most likely because of their football tradition and success running the football with Mark Ingram.
The Longhorns are still the favorite to land Brown when he makes his decision late this summer, but it's somewhat disconcerting that he noted he is just now starting to feel more comfortable with the coaching staff. The top target at running back since early in the process, Texas, and Major Applewhite specifically, have spent a great deal of time with Brown and it's flat-out unusual for prospects not to feel comfortable around the program.
So that's the bad news -- it's time to consider Alabama a legitimate threat in his recruitment and it's not hard to see Brown at a press conference announcing his commitment to a program other than Texas and echoing Jordan Hicks when asked if he feels like he is abandoning his home-state school by saying, "I'm not from Texas." It's probably a nightmare scenario for Texas and one that can no longer be disregarded.
The good news is that Brown did make his way to campus for the first summer camp and got to see his potential future teammates work out together. Most importantly, he got a look at the fullback and offensive linemen who would be blocking for him if he decides to attend Texas. The transition of the offense from a spread-based running attack to a under-center style featuring a tight end and an H-back should be heartening for both Brown and Green. A trip back to Austin during the start of fall practice may help convince him that Texas can adequately feature him in the new offense.
As for Green, he still plans on taking his visits in the fall and waiting until close to Signing Day to make his decision. Nebraska's decision to bolt the Big 12 won't affect his decision. A positive sign for the Longhorns is the face that he plans on staying in Texas after graduating from college -- funny that he doesn't frame as "after his NFL career" -- where a degree from UT would most likely be more helpful in getting him a job than one from Nebraska, Cal, or Florida State. The major concern may be whether or not the Longhorns have a spot left at that point.
Uh, wha?!?! If the commitments of Kolby Griffin and Brandon Williams were shocking because both made decisions before visiting Austin for the second Junior Day, the decision from Rockdale LB Derek David was perhaps even more flabbergasting -- the talented player committed to Texas Tech ($) on Saturday, ending his recruitment seemingly before it even gained much steam.
One of the top players in the state, the rumor of the month was that Will Muschamp had made it known to either David or the Rockdale coaching staff that David was going to be his top target in the state defensively and that he was one of the best talents he has ever seen at the position.
An instinctive and hard-hitting linebacker with sideline-to-sideline range, David apparently ended his recruitment early to end the distraction of the process and because of a strong relationship with the Texas Tech coaches. Though Muschamp supposedly had already made him a top target, the lack of early attention could have hurt Texas -- David commented that he received much more attention when attending the second Texas summer camp after receiving little attention in a previous visit. For whatever reason, David had also dropped Texas down his top five ($) from early co-favorites to third and then to last on his list in the days before his commitment.
With so much time between his commitment and Signing Day in 2012, David's recruitment seemed far from over during the several days after his decision, especially with the high priority Muschamp has placed on the talented target. However, that may have changed with news on Monday evening that Texas Tech had secured another 2012 commitment from none other than Derek's older brother, Logan, who will spend the next two seasons at Blinn Junior College before becoming a Red Raider. Without knowing more details, it's hard to say if the two were a package deal, but his brother's commitment may end any hope of persuading David to de-commit from Tech. In addition, teammate La'Raven Clark, a talented 2011 offensive lineman who has raised his profile recently, also committed to Tech recently.
In the midst of landing their best recruiting class possibly in years, the Red Raiders are riding a surge of momentum on the recruiting trail stemming solely from new coach Tommy Tuberville and a staff now much more committed to recruiting than Mike Leach, who apparently put little effort into securing commitments from top players in the state. Though they may not often win battles for top-five players in the state like David, Tech looks like it will benefit greatly from the addition of Tuberville and trips to Lubbock could become even more hair-raising in the future as more talent heads to the South Plains. Aggy, beware.
Strong month for Daniels raises stock. So much focus has been on the disappointment of last basketball season that it's easy to take for granted just how much talent will enter the program in the next several years, particularly in the form of the 2011 class, currently standing at four players. Myck Kabongo is the most visible of those players because of his early commitment and connection to Tristan Thompson and Corey Joseph.
The player whose stock is rising the most quickly though is DeAndre Daniels, a 6-8, 180-pound small forward who will be the next great wing player at Texas, following in the footsteps of Kevin Durant, Damion James, and Jordan Hamilton. A fantastic month has put Daniels in contention for five-star status and the title of top small forward in the class.
What makes Daniels so effective is the versatility in his game -- he can shoot from distance with consistency (even featuring a step-back three ($) a la Hamilton) and has the ball-handling skills of a smaller player, allowing him to get to the rack when opponents close out hard on the perimeter. In addition, Daniels is an excellent rebounder and will show up on the 40 Acres as a better defender than his fellow Californian Hamilton.
He's also highly athletic, as the description of a put-back dunk attests ($):
Kevin Panzer's shot bounced off the backboard, the front rim and then DeAndre Daniels seemingly came out of nowhere, grabbed the ball with only his right hand and in one fluid motion had a putback dunk.
Daniels' dunk was so impressive, so athletic, that even Stoneridge players and fans smiled about it for a few minutes. Fans were talking about it during timeouts. Belmont Shore guard Cezar Guerrero said it was the best dunk he'd ever seen. It was surely a highlight-reel slam and more importantly it helped Belmont Shore win the title.
To hear Daniels tell it, though, the dunk was not his best of the season -- that honor would belong to a dunk in which he literally jumped over an opponent to slam it through the basket.
If there is one debit against Daniels, it's that he needs to improve his strength to finish around the rim and hold his position both offensively and defensively, but he has more than a year to address that aspect of his game.
Given his improvement since his commitment last summer, Daniels should step in as a freshman and ably fill the shoes of Jordan Hamilton, who will most likely turn pro after his upcoming sophomore season. And though he doesn't fill the major need of a back-to-the-basket scorer in the class, Daniels has the ability to become the latest in a growing line of perimeter stars at Texas.
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Brown Waiting Game...
Could it be that Brown is waiting until the fall to see if we really will have a down-hill running game? My concern is we roll it out and don’t have the backs currently to stick with it and then go back to the zone read. We wouldn’t be wrong by doing this, but could hurt our stock with RB’s like him.
You really need a running threat at quarterback
to make the zone read truly effective and while Gilbert isn’t a statue he is the as much a running threat as Chance Mock. If Texas rolls it out, but doesn’t have the back to truly make it work there is no better sales pitch to Malcolm.
by davey o'brien on Jun 22, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Brown's team is also jumping up a classification
from 4A to 5A and into a San Antonio district where there are several teams with big-time running games and defenses. SA Converse Judson is a tough program and Brown will probably see eight and nine man lines this fall from the Rockets and a couple of others. So his yardage may decline somewhat, although his breakaways could increase with those teams stacking the line. For him, running the ball may not be near as easy as it was in 4A.
I could see that...
…but he’s still a horse. I’d rather him get the experience against the big boys. In a year they’ll all be really big.
by BeeCaveHornFan on Jun 22, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Great read
Thanks GOBR, your updates help keep me going untl two-a-days. If recruiting ends strong it looks like this class could be one of the best ever. Keep the updates coming.
I fear Bama, Saban is a snaky S.O.B.
Thank for the update GOBR, and thank you for acknowledging Bama as a serious threat for Brown. Brown ‘s dad is allegedly very high on Bama, Mark Ingram just won the Heisman, Bama just won the national championship against a sans Colt Texas team, and Brown doesn’t necessarily view himself as a Texas kid.
I pray Texas isn’t slow playing Green and that Aaron knows he can come to Texas and be our guy. Not our second choice. I’m sure Green knows he is our second choice, but I hope the Mack Recruiting Spin is full effect and Aaron doesn’t feel that way.
All that being said, I still feel good about Brown. Running behind a great offensive line with the top fullback in the country lead blocking for him has to be appealing. I like that he attended one of the Texas camps and had the chance to meet his potential teammates. At Bama , Brown is another good back. At Texas he has a chance to be the Savior of the Texas Running Game. Sorry for the somewhat Aggie like logic, but hey that is the case here.
I am still hoping Tre rips off a 1,000 yards in 2010 and Jeremy Hills receives quite a few touches.
Sad news on Derek David, but he seems like that was a done package deal to bring his brother, himself, and his Rockdale teammate to Tech. I’ll concede one to Tubbs if he has to take 2 other gus to reel in the big one. However, with David’s Texas offer still 6 months away, it’s certainly not over.
I agree, Aggie is in trouble if Tubbs keeps recruiting the way he is now. Sure a pro guy can recruit high schoolers Aggie…
by billfromlaketravis on Jun 22, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
Sherman is a hawk
No worries. Aggies are in very capable hands. Sherman is a Hawk and he knows exactly what he is doing. Look how he is building up the defense. He has already taken care of the offense last year. Playing with a group comprising mainly of freshmen he beat tech in their house and took tu the distance. This year we will probably win the conference championship and more. Recruits see success and come, as the Wrecking Crew starts winning and beating down on tu, ou and tech the recruits will start flocking to College Station just like old times. Watch out tu. We are not worried about tech.
"This year we will probably win the conference championship and more."
And this year’s contenders for “Sabre Rattler of the Year”:
1) Kim Jong-il (N. Korea)
2) YUMC (on behalf of Texas A&M)
sabre rattler:
An impotent warmonger. from the expression “to rattle one’s sabre” an attempt to scare off or threaten one’s enemy without actual force.
and MORE!
I guess that means you plan on winning either the national title and/or the Fiesta Bowl too. Sweet. Congrats on a kickass (future) year.
by BeeCaveHornFan on Jun 22, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
We are not worried about tech.
Sounds like you got ’em right where you want ’em.
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by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jun 23, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Isaiah Crowell is our friend--I wish he'd commit to Bama already
Most folks have I. Crowell, the no. 2 runing back from Georgia as a strong lean to Bama. If he commits that would help solidify M. Brown to Texas. However, Crowell isn’t planning to commit until signing day. But, all indications are that he is going to Bama.
http://crimsonconfidential.com/news/articles/2010/5/19/mcgee-on-crowell-he-likes-alabama-a-lot
Per Jamabama1 over at tidefans.com and the Rivals $ story,
“RB Isaiah Crowell names Alabama his favorite
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Crowell went on record today saying bama leads, number one ,however, you want to say it. UGA number 2.
”http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1053301" target="_blank">http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1053301 "
I am pissed about David
But I’m not giving up yet with Muschamp seeming to covet him as much as he does and being the primary recruiter in his…uh…recruitment.
Daniels is disgustingly good, and I don’t see how he’s not consensus top 15 with all the hype he’s been getting, but I can’t see him passing Quincy Miller for the honor of top SF in the class. Same goes with Myck, who should move up to top 5 in the class, but probably won’t pass Marquis Teague, a similar player with a better shot and stronger body to go along with at least comparable handles. McClellan and Lewis have gotten some pub as well, but I still think we loaded up too much on perimeter players in 2011…
Any news on that Austin Rivers visit? When was that supposed to happen?
If Green and Brown both come here, I’ll die happy.
I believe Tommy is going to be a much
better hire for Tech than many have given him credit. No, he won’t be a quote machine, won’t be running an offense that is the envy of xbox players everywhere, but what he brings to the table is a guy who has won titles in a very competitive conference with a physical style of play. He has gone toe to toe with some tough competitors to recruit and I think will do a good job in Lubbock.
So is Sherman at College Station
I am sorry, I somehow don’t see the comparative advantage that everyone sees here swinging in tech’s favor vis a vis A&M. If they are recruiting well at tech, so are we at College Station. Infact, we are thinking of winning some championships here are they? I don’t care how good they are, A&M is A&M and recruits come here for the tradition, athletic excellence and for Kyle Field.
I think his point was that Tech has been doing decently with lower ranked recruits in the past few years. Now that Tuberville is putting more emphasis on recruiting compared to Leach, it could spell trouble for others, mainly those who may usually win recruiting battles like aTm.
In the past decade, aTm has usually hauled in much higher ranked recruiting classes than Tech, yet what do they have to show for it? Not much. To compare:
Since 2007, Tech has won 29 games in the past 3 seasons. aTm has won 17 in the same time.
Going back to 2002, Tech has won 71 games compared to 48 for aTm.
Tech has done “more with less”, as opposed to aTm who has done “less with more.” If Tech and Tubs start getting more talent and better recruits (especially at the potential expense to aTm by winning recruiting battles out of their own backyard), it could spell trouble for aTm.
You have a new coach now, past is past. You have a defensive coach with a team recruited to play in an offense dominated football team. Are you sure you will even beat SMU this year? Even Sherman took a couple of years get the Aggies rolling again and Sherman came straight out of the NFL.
Tech also hired an offensive coach, to coach the “offense dominated football team.” Neal Brown ran a top 5 offense last year at Troy and inherits greater talent with more experience than what he had to work with at Troy. He is also part of the Mumme/Leach coaching tree as he played for a year under Leach at Kentucky. It is similar to the aTm hire of DC from Air Force (good numbers at a lesser program), except Brown is not needing to upgrade the good offense as much as DeRuyter needs to upgrade the (often horrible) defense.
“Past is past”. Wow, this coming from an aggy. I cited stats from the last couple years that illustrate an upward trend in Tech football. You are talking about aggy tradition and the good ol days of stomping UT, OU, and Tech that hasn’t happened since when? aTm is lucky to beat one of the three during the year, if any at all. Last year it was Tech. It was UT a couple years ago. And aTm hasn’t beaten OU in how long? I don’t even know.
“It took Sherman a couple of years [to] get the Aggies rolling again”. First of all, I wouldn’t say the Aggies are rolling again until they win more than 6 games in a year. Second, Tubs is taking over a program that doesn’t need to “get rolling again.” He just needs to sustain the momentum and build on it, which he is doing my sustaining a similar offense (with OC Brown) and improving the defense with DC Willis and the aforementioned better recruiting.
“and Sherman came straight out of the NFL.” The NFL and college are completely different games, as most rational people realize. Style of play, recruiting, game management, etc. are two completely different arts. He better hope he can win a few more games this year or else aggy’s gonna start getting antsy.
And i’m comfortable saying that it is more likely that Tech will beat SMU than that Aggy will “win the conference championship and more.”
You seem extremely eager to proclaim the Aggies “rolling again”. That is generous. TAMU is coming off of a 6-7 season and a pretty atrocious bowl loss to Georgia, a middle of the pack SEC team. Claims that TAMU “will probably win the conference championship and more” while not impossible are certainly improbable and outlandish. I think the Aggies will be improved this year, and growing up an Aggie fan in a highly Aggie family, I hope they will. But let’s be realistic – this team gave up 60 points on 2 occasions last season, over 50 points on another occasion, and over 40 points on 3 more occasions. They will be improved and hopefully be able to challenge and play competitively with every team they face, but these claims of grandeur and conference championships and that Sherman has them rolling again coming off of a losing season are pretty ridiculous. In reality, so far Sherman is just another Charlie Weis. His best win so far was a close loss to Texas.
Brilliantly stated
MWJ . . . concise and spot-on.
I agree on Aggie: I think Sherman is moving in the right direction. I think a more competitive A&M helps the Big 12, helps the state of Texas, pushes UT. It’s win-win.
But saying Sherman has turned things around? Recruiting numbers occasionally lie, but they’re generally valid. Fran’s last class — the one Sherman and his staff inherited and nearly all of whom signed — was a solid bunch. The 2010 signings were excellent in the OL, OK otherwise. The six-months-out look at the Aggies’ 2011 class is not so rosy. Major point here: If you’re down, as the Aggies have been, you can’t just get standoffs with UT and OU and TT on the recruiting front: You gotta beat ‘em. That’s not happening.
You fail to realize
Sherman is no Tuberville. But we all like you guys having a fine coach like Mike Sherman.
"You've got to find your inner pirate" - Mike Leach
Really?
where a degree from UT would most likely be more helpful in getting him a job than one from Nebraska, Cal, or Florida State.
More helpful than a degree from Cal, which is unquestionably one of the top institutions in the nation?
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by burntorangehorn on Jun 22, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions
I love UT...
…but a degree from Cal might as well be a degree from Yale, IMO.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 22, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'all are losing sight of the forest
Does anyone really think the potentially slightly higher chances of landing a future job in Texas with a degree from either Cal or UT is going to tip the scales in the recruitment of Aaron Green?
No? Then what are we arguing about?
Two teams can play each other head-to-head, and sportswriters still have to vote who they think is better.
by Longhorn_Seminole on Jun 22, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it comes down to
what he would major in if we are really going to have this conservation.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
conservation
I always resort to pointing out grammar mistakes when my arguments suck. Being that I have no argument anyway, take that!!
by KratosWasASooner on Jun 23, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I deserve that
I’m a grammar nazi myself and I have been getting lazy on it lately.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
that's not a grammar mistake...
it’s a typographical error. Different thing.
Since we’re gettin’ all nazi on it…
Correct....
and I officially can’t catch a break.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
I can almost guarantee you
that Green is not currently sitting down comparing the Cal and UT physics departments for future employment.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jun 23, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I don't think so either...nt
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
I'm in agreement with this...
…but having a degree from the same school as someone else isn’t really networking.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 22, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's untrue
Cal is on par with Yale, Harvard, etc. in prestige and quality. UT is perhaps a smidge behind Brown, the least of the public ivies, at least anywhere outside the state of Texas.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 22, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
*least of the actual ivies...
…obviously Brown’s not public.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 23, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
No, it's not
Nobody is on par with Yale and Harvard other than Princeton, MIT, and Stanford. I’ll let you throw in CIT as well. Cal is not even close. They are in the 20s, while all those other ones are top 5. UT is in the low 40s. Brown is top 15. Not close. The perception is quite different than you are making out.
20s?
Someone’s a slave to US News. And anyway, even your approximations show that Cal is much, much closer to Yale/Harvard than it is to UT.
UT is a fine school, and better than my undergraduate alma mater by a mile, but not on par with Berkeley.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 23, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
And Princeton Review, yes
The disparity between rankings is similar, but the schools are much, MUCH closer. Whatever, it’s not worth arguing over on a UT message board. I want Malcolm Brown and Aaron Green…now!
Depends on what major you're talking about.
Although you said it with such authority, I’m sure you’re right.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Jun 24, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Being a graduate
Of Westlake, you kind of start to learn and memorize every conceivable college statistic and ranking just by osmosis. Believe me, it’s not something I’m overly proud of. But it’s certainly something that I know a lot about and have researched.
My point actually was that
many people have forecast the demise of TT football with the hiring of Tommy and I think we will actually see the program stabilize and become a very solid part of the conference. No where did I mention A&M or Sherman and that was for a very good reason. The Ag program is at a crossroads under Boston Mike and I don’t think he is the guy to turn it around. A&M has yet to address their shortcomings on the defensive side of the ball. If Tech can hang onto David that will be one more defensive impact recruits that they have landed than Sherman in his 2008, 2009, and 2010 classes and projects in 2011. Sherman missed on the two biggest recruits in Nelson and Reed and the talent on the defensive side of the ball, especially the line, is more in line with Rice and UH then Texas or OU. That young Aggie defense started a senior, 3 juniors, 2 sophomores, and a freshman against Texas and proceeded to give up 300 yards rushing to Texas. Maybe Mike can go convert some more offensive linemen to defensive tackle since he can’t clearly land any. They don’t really have anyone that projects to replace Miller and their secondary is below average. Don’t tell me about the new co-ordinator. At AF he had a group of engineering majors who are willing to die for their country to build a defense. At A&M he has scraps and it isn’t going to change. The fact Wallace is leaning to OU says all that needs to be said about how recruits embrace Ag traditions. Texas has taken away East Texas and the Horns and OU have locked down the state’s top defensive talent the past three years.
As far as the South title next year. HA! You no longer have ISU, CU, and KSU on your schedule. That was three sure victories, oh sorry. You now have Mizzou, KU, and Nebraska. Ags will roll in their first three games and I wouldn’t be surprised if they amass close to 180 points in those first three games. Key will be if they give up more than 60 to SFA, La Tech, and FIU. The key game is at OSU. That game starts a 6-game run of @ OSU, Ark @ Dallas, Mizzou, @ KU, TT, and OU. The first three teams will be able to score points in bunches and if the Ags don’t improve defensively they are in trouble. KU should be a given, TT will be interesting, and OU will be difficult. Factor in you close with Nebraska and then come to Austin 5 days later and it is not farfetched to see the Ags drop 5 of their last 7 games.
It’s like a cup of coffee after a long night of sleep.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jun 22, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Derek Johnson.....not making the grade?
Word is he is having problems keeping his grades up and we will probably lose him for 2010….or for good. This is not good!!!
Here's the link.
http://recruitocosm.fantake.com/2010/06/24/texas-recruiting-weekly-attrition-shakes-things-up/
We shall see. Not being reported anywhere else yet. As Shuttlesworth notes, if true it makes Russell a more important take. Not sure that it completely screws everything Texas wants to do at defensive tackle this year because it was doubtful that Johnson was going to be able to contribute much anyway.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

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