FWAA to possibly award Auburn '04 national title
by pakman. on Jul 29, 2010 7:19 PM CDT
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The already controversial 2004 college football season could have one final act. The Football Writers Association of America is considering stripping USC of the national championship and awarding the trophy to Auburn, according to Evan Woodberry of the Mobile Press-Register.
"This is unprecedented, but it's an unprecedented situation," FWAA executive director Steve Richardson told the Press-Register.
Granted that it's not the AP or BCS national championship, I find it interesting that at least one major national championship selector is choosing to buck the trend. With the AP choosing not to revote and the BCS merely vacating the win if USC loses the appeal, I think it's fair to select another team that had a great year be rewarded.
Now, that could open a can of worms with whether it should be Auburn. Utah also went undefeated. OU's only loss came to USC in the BCS title game, but the beat down they received was just too great for me to think they deserve it even if it "never happened". Not to mention the things I would do to see Stoops one up Mack in national titles, especially retroactively. Stoops, however, has made it public he doesn't want it.
This is would be the first of its kind in the modern era. Do you guys think the FWAA will actually seriously consider this? Thoughts?
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Ludicrous
There is no way to know who would have won a championship game between OU and Auburn. The only two legitimate choices are (1) keeping USC as champs despite the cheating or (2) vacating the title.
If this were an official NCAA championship, the title would be vacated.
That is the only real option here.
BTW, i wouldn’t call the FWAA “major.” It might be “major” enough by Alabama standards to claim a championship, but I don’t think Texas would ever claim a team as a championship team if it “won” the FWAA but not the AP or coaches.
Granted that it might not be a “major” selector. It is more reputable than the other dozens out there that determine national champions though.
Also, with the process of selecting a national champion so controversial, why should we think that the reselecting would be any different? As flawed as this system is, it’s the one we got.
So because it's an inherantly flawed system...
…we should use inherently flawed logic to retroactively grant Auburn a championship?
by Hopkins Horn on Jul 29, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, since Bomar was at OU in 2004 (redshirt season),
and that lucrative car dealership job was being so ably filled by Rhett and a couple of his buddies, you’d think maybe a look into OU’s nooks and crannies might be warranted if they’re to be considered for the national championship.
Among the four — USC, Auburn, OU and Utah — who do you suppose had the cleanest program?
That's the thing about that season...
…there was a damn good Utah team (coached by Meyer, QB’ed by Alex Smith), probably the best non-BCS squad of the BCS era, also sitting there undefeated at the end of the season.
by Hopkins Horn on Jul 30, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
don’t forget the academic scandal at Auburn. They were probably using players that wouldn’t have been academically eligible if not for bogus classes.
What you're seeing is team spirit. It's like the Holy Spirit, but more powerful.
-Hank Hill
Which one?
(academic scandal, that is)
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
Noelie Altito
by beast in bama on Jul 31, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
...but the athletic department was cleared of any involvement.
The scandal was “academic”, not athletic. The student athletes, not just football players, took the “self study” classes offered. There was no unfair advantage for them versus other students.
You’re trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater here. BTW, they owned your tidewater azzes for 6 straight years during this time. Are you implying these wins are tainted?
"Oklahoma doesn't have an inferiority complex, they are just plain inferior...and the sooner everyone accepts this as fact we can just move on." -DKR
You've mistaken me for a Bama fan
NOT ONE.
I’m sure you’re not aware of this (not being a lifelong resident of the state of Alabama), but at about this same time, Auburn came dangerously close to losing its accreditation.
Probably a joke that only I would get here @ BON (member since 2007), but one that had to be told, nevertheless.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
Noelie Altito
by beast in bama on Aug 3, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
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