Texas, USC Will Play Home-And-Home Football Series In 2017-18
by Peter Bean on Aug 26, 2010 2:41 PM CDT
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PrintSo, uh, maybe this Big 12-2 thing is gonna work out okay after all. At the very least, it's certainly lit a fire under our Athletics Department with regards to scheduling, as ESPN.com's Bruce Feldman just reported another blockbuster for the Longhorns: a home-and-home with the USC Trojans, in 2017 and 2018.
Smart, fun move that's great for fans, for the team, and for recruiting fertile, ripe-for-the-picking California.
UPDATE: Confirmed on MB-TF.
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Awesome.
Guess the program was serious when they said that they wanted to add some blockbuster non-con games to deal with the weakening of the Big 12. This is much better than playing Colorado and will probably even be better than Nebraska as they have been for much of the recent past.
USC coming to Austin. DKR will be rockin’.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Aug 26, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
Two hottest cheerleading squads in the nation.
Life is good.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
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UCLA may have something to say about that
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by run Bevo run on Aug 26, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess we'll find that out in about a month!
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It's the kind of athletic competition I fully embrace.
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by run Bevo run on Aug 26, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Cal fan
Regarding Pac-10 cheerleaders USC and UCLA get the hype, but the real talent is the Oregon cheer team. ASU isn’t too shabby either.
Yes!!!
Outstanding news!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Bring it, cheaters.
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by run Bevo run on Aug 26, 2010 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Is that a young Nick Nolte?
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haha, it’s gary busey photoshopped onto some other guys face (who’s probably famous but i’m not old enough to know the name of).
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 26, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be Orson Welles in Citizen Kane. Decent Photoshop though.
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so thats citizen kane…. still meaning to watch it.
by Displaced Longhorn on Aug 26, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d rather watch Dr. Zhivago then see this movie ever again. That’s how bad I thought it was.
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"Rosebud!"
Citizen Kane is generally considered one of the 2 or 3 best movies ever made … but Julie Christie was pretty hot in Dr. Z.
Orson Welles in Ctizen Kane.....
..which only very old people see, since there are no ’splosions.
That
and it really really sucks. Seriously, the only people who list this on top of their top 10 have never even seen a good movie.
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Pretty strong...
..to say it really really sucks, but everyone is entitled.
That is weird that all those people in the American Film Institute have never seen a good movie. They seem really under qualified for their jobs.
Aight aight
I recognize others views. Just a spoonful of hyperbole helps the medicine go down. I’d say it was at least kind of interesting given how much of a strange person Orson Welles was.
Believe me, I know that a bunch of “movie experts” write this one down as one of the greatest of all time. If you take it as a segment of history and look at it based on what was out at that time, you can make at least a case for it being one of the best. I just don’t see what the reasoning for it being ranked best of all time is.
All that being said, and my opinion stubborn as ever, I’m not really trying to offend people I disagree with. Stating that people who like it don’t know what good movies are might be too far, and for that I apologize.
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You certainly don't have to apologize for that opinion.
I don’t think any of us out here had enough to do with the production of it. It is definitely “out there” in the way that it was filmed. I don’t think it’s near as entertaining as movies nowadays but it was certainly cutting edge back then.
I'll take Godfather I & II over Citizen Kane any day
leave the gun take the cannoli
+100000
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Late to the table as usual, but...
this whole section of the thread is exactly what I love about BON the most. I literally had to call my better half (who generally hates football and is ambivalent about UT in general, but who is, nonetheless, a great wife) into the room to read this as I exclaimed, “This is what I love about this blog!” Longhorn v. Trojan gridiron evolving/devolving into film critique is something I cannot not add my $.02 worth to.
I roomed with an RTF grad school guy during my junior year at UT in 1984-1985 and soon found myself watching nothing but important classic and/or foreign films and really “getting it.” New German Cinema, especially, but also perhaps Goddard, and even a different appreciation for Hitchcock – all of this led me to the point of watching film critically instead of instinctively (which I once voiced to my sneering father who informed me that I was “missing a lot of good stories” in the process.)
Do I have a point other than trying to type off a couple of beers before bedtime? Well, I also think Citizen Kane is far too dry to be “enjoyed” regardless of its historic significance; much as Un Chien Andalou is thrust upon young minds as ground-breaking art cinema, when it is little more than a self-indulgent waste of time (try some Maya Deren is you want real surrealism). Anyway, Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf is the best film ever made, hands down, no argument.
p.s. I sure am psyched about the Longhorns future OOC scheduling. It’s about time.
The reason it's considered great
is that it revolutionized cinema. Nothing like it (camera work, storytelling, editing) had ever been done at the time. Now, those techniques are so commonplace, we don’t even notice them. At the time, though, it was the first film to usher in the “future” of American cinema.
My point though
is that shouldn’t be the standard held for great movies. I have no problem voting it the most important movie of all time as that would seem to fit. The “revolutionized cinema” argument for how good a movie is would put Wizard of Oz right up there with Citizen Kane and, while I love the Wizard of Oz, it is no top 10 movie as far as I am concerned.
Either way, I can see how it could be argued on that notion. I guess I have a sore spot for this movie. I’ve seen it a few times always looking for what I missed the last time. It never seems to pan, though. I do however have some odd taste. (i.e. I’d put There Will Be Blood in my top 10, and a lot of people I have talked to hated that movie)
Anyway back on topic, here’s to more of this.
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For what its worth...
There Will Be Blood was the most critically acclaimed film of 2007, which, it would seem, invariably translates to a somewhat lesser assessment from John Q. Public.
But in my circle (in which film is regarded as art or discourse, and not merely a form of simple and predictable entertainment), There Will Be Blood is regarded as one of the most complex and accomplished American films ever made. Personally, I’d put it damn near the top.
by BrooklynHorn on Aug 27, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a junky for extraordinary acting
and that movie was like crack to me. Brilliant.
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Agreed
It was good to see P.T. Anderson perfect cinema. Daniel Day Lewis was incredible. Anxious for the next one.
by Infield Elephant on Aug 27, 2010 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I viewed TWBB as a historical precursor
to PTA’s other films – an exploration of the cultural development of Southern California, which would one day lead to the world and the characters we see in Magnolia.
As such, I was kind of hoping his next one would continue the trend. Perhaps he could make The Last Tycoon, as Los Angeles was founded on missions and oil, but Hollywood came to define it.
by BrooklynHorn on Aug 27, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
And that
is how we brought this conversation back full circle to Southern California.
by Infield Elephant on Aug 27, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Paul Thomas Anderson can make a film...
in which emotionally hopeless, misbegotten characters cross each others lives at random, only to find their problems are meaningless when a thunderous god from Austin descends upon their pretentious little cluster of valleys and stomps them into submission…
by BrooklynHorn on Aug 27, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I meant, Busey
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Yes!!!
Outstanding news!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Good news everyone...
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We better win 'em both
This is awesome. The top 2 recruiting juggernauts in college football today. I hear the 2 schools had been wanting to play each other again badly since that epic January night, but both thought they would end up meeting much sooner, at the same venue. Obviously that hasn’t happened yet, so why not get these things scheduled as a home and home so our respective cities can enjoy some of that Pasadena magic.. I applaud this
I have a feeling...
that by the time this match-up rolls around, the game’s luster and relevance will more closely resemble this year’s UCLA affair, as USC is about to return to 1990’s form. Still, on this day the news is quite welcome.
Would've been better if it was the USC from the past few years.
The USC in 2017-2018 will not be as good a team as the USC from these past few years.
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UNLV is going all the way this year!
I dislike this argument
Not to single you out, cause I have seen it elsewhere, and this is where I comment, so I guess I am singling you out.
Who knows who will be good when and where. Just because USC ruled in the early 2000’s does not mean they wont be as good in the late 2010’s nor does it mean they will be worse. You don’t know.
All you can do is schedule against quality programs, and see what happens, and for that, this move should be lauded.
Id love to see us add Michigan to the schedule 8 years from now, who gives a crap if they are terrible right now, they are still Michigan.
Same thing here. Its a good move any way you slice it. Who knows how good we will be then, and who knows how good USC will be? Point is, its a marquee matchup between traditional powerhouse football schools. Which is greatness.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Aug 27, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Traditional powerhouse programs are cyclical. They’ll have up and down periods. Typically the big time programs will have fewer down years. You must schedule these games in advance just to lock in the date as the big time program games are always a commodity in limited supply. Even if you end up playing a program in a down year, especially from a fan perspective, a series with USC, Mich, etc provides a fantastic venue for fans to watch/visit/experience. If they happen to be a natl contender that year, all the better. It’s a can’t lose proposition.
by soonerspeak on Aug 27, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Also
Say what you want about USC last year, but they were still a damn good team. I don’t expect all of that to go while Kiffin is there.
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by inVINCEable on Aug 27, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope we have an out clause
if Lane Kiffin somehow gets USC banned from TV. Not that it is very liekly, he seems ike an upstanding, honest man and not douchey at all.
Pretty amazing to see this
I’m sure HornChamps will tell us that Will Muschamp engineered it against the protests of one Mack Brown, but it’s done.
However, to put things in perspective, the guys who’ll be the redshirt seniors on the 2017 team probably won’t even receive their first offers from Texas until February 2012, and won’t even enroll until 2013. Let’s hope that ball keeps rolling for the Longhorns.
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by burntorangehorn on Aug 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Great success
Just a note: my brother went to USC and actually got us tickets for the Rose Bowl game (similar student allotment but less students that apply means two tickets at face value, holla). Let the family rivalry commence!
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By then...
they could be conference games. I wondered the same thing when the BYU games were scheduled. Either way, awesome.
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It should be a great series
I hope this type scheduling continues for UT as well as OU. Great for the fans, revenue, conference prestige as well as SOS.
Why are we playing South Carolina?
And does this make greenspoint happy?
Yee-haw!!!
by UT2001 on Aug 26, 2010 4:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So, who's next on your wish list?
We already have Cal, Notre Dame, Mississippi, UCLA, and now USC. Who else you guys want to see?
I’d love to get Ohio State back on the schedule.
yeah their orange is more of a Whataburger flavor
HopkinsHorn would have to attend, no?
I suspect he would protest
on academic grounds, of course.
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I'm hoping for this
because I live in Tennessee. Neyland stadium is one of the most uncomfortable places I’ve ever been, though.
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Penn State, FL, and tOSU
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by Mulliganville on Aug 26, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Arizona State or Washington, please
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DeVry and University Of Phoenix?
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Fake UT?
Michigan could also be a good one. It would be a pretty big swing in the total wins race every matchup. Maybe Vandy, to even out that series.
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by burntorangehorn on Aug 27, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
This sounds awesome
Would now have a reason to travel to Austin for CFB. Can’t wait. Went to the infamous ’06 Rose Bowl and enjoyed hanging out with the Texas fans. At the very least, the non-game part of the experience was awesome.
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I just realized I'll be 30 when this happens.
sigh
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Aug 26, 2010 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
7 years away from turning 30
and you’re fretting already? Enjoy it now. Plus, 30 is the new [awesome age].
by Infield Elephant on Aug 26, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I will be 40 ...
Damn the thought. Maybe I will be out of school by then though.
Forgive me if I missed something or its just waiting to get updated
but why is Nebraska still on our schedule for 14/15
excellent
I applaud great OOC games and regret they do not occur more often.
Moreover, I would love for one loss teams with great SOS to trump undefeated teams who play weak schedules when it comes to the polls and bowl invitations.
Yeah, it's too bad we cancelled Minnesota.
(Sorry, I couldn’t find the “sarcasm” font).
Thanks for bringing up the age thing, BTW. I never would’ve thought of it that way, but now all I can think of is “Shit! I’ll be 47 by then. My son will be 14. I am getting to be an old mofo.”
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Why get the tough teams now?
Where were these caliber teams the previous decade? These are the kind of games we’ve wanted to see. The weaker conference? Well, the Horns will be playing teams that are in tough conferences and have conference championship game yet they have the nads to schedule UT. Texas never had the nads to do it when the Big 12 was uber tough. Trying to beef up the schedule, well, I get it.
Then again, Mack and Deloss load up the schedule with powerhouses — then hand off the reins to Muschamp. Mack never wanted to coach those games before, so why schedule them now?
"Excuse me while I whip this out."
Not sure it's a nad issue.
Mack has received a good bit of criticism for his scheduling, some of which is understandable. He is a very CEO, politically minded head coach that recruits, hires, and schedules the way he has with reason. Good or bad, much of these strategies led to championships and many, many 10+ seasons.
There are a number of reasons these marquee games are being scheduled. Not sure what’s going on behind closed doors, but I suspect it would include, 1) the lack of a CCG calls for the beefing of UT’s SOS, 2) Muschamp vs. Mack probably plays a factor, and 3) Who knows what the conference alignment situation will be by the time we play any of these games? (use your imagination)
by Infield Elephant on Aug 27, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Your point is taken
and many Sooner fans, including myself, would point out our OOC scheduling was more difficult in past years. But, as much as I might hate to admit it UT has the bigger name brand and didn’t have to schedule tougher opponents necessarily. Winning the conference championship was what is was all about. When UT started winning CCG’s thats when the program really took off. The high profile game WAS the CCG and was the spring board for the Big 12 champ to go to a MNC. 08 and the 3-way tie might have been the only situation where SOS probably hurt UT. Now without the CCG UT/Mack are doing whats necessary to put UT into position to play for a championship. So I completely understand what your saying, however you have to decide what you want marquee OOC games with great entertainment value or what is best to get you to the MNC. The way things are going now the higher profile games is what works best and I’m glad it’s happening as a fan of CF.
by soonerspeak on Aug 27, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I am too a huge fan of college football. And I can’t wait. What makes bowl season so great is you have teams from opposing conferences with winning records playing a one-game winner-take-all. I’m glad UT is joining the ranks of other big-name programs in scheduling tougher opponents more consistently.
My only question was why wait so long to get the marquee non-conference matchups (save Ohio State, Arkansas and to a lesser degree North Carolina, TCU and UCLA). I would love to see UT start-up a yearly rivalry game with a non-conference team (Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, TCU or somebody) Those can be fun. Growing up in Louisiana, we always looked forward to the LSU-A&M game to open the season.
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Crimson And Cream Baby!
I’m just enjoying the conversation. Not patting Mack/UT on the back for doing what they need to do.
thank.. THE LORD
Dude.. this season’s schedule makes me sick. We need to play a team of this caliber every year. Takes me back to Ohio vs Texas days. Well Done!
Agreed.
I’ve got no problems justifying spending money on season tickets with Cal, Notre Dame and USC on the schedule.
Rice, Wyoming, Florida Atlantic, UTEP, etc? Not so much. Hard to sit through a home schedule of Wyoming, UCLA, Iowa State, Baylor, OkState, Florida Atlantic, aggie. There are exactly three interesting games in there, and that’s two more than we usually have in Austin.
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Pac-16 Conference games by the time...
….we actually play the H/H series.
Darn good intentions though. These are the kind of games we’ve been missing for the past 12 seasons.
Fred Akers: 1.3 ranked OOC opponents per season
McWilliams: 2.0 ranked OOC opponents per season
Mackovic: 2.5 ranked OOC opponents per season
Mack Brown: 0.25 ranked OOC opponents per season
Not a coincidence.
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Somebody's REALLY stretching for original material nowadays
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by Hopkins Horn on Aug 27, 2010 7:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Maryland
I wonder how this series affects the possibility of the rumored Maryland series for the same years. I suppose it could happen, given that we’re playing ND/Cal in the same seasons.
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by Hopkins Horn on Aug 27, 2010 7:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
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