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GoBR's 2012 Texas Wish-y/Watch List: Defensive End

Previously: QB, RB, WR, OL, DT.

Horns_bullet_medium2011 narrative: In the spring of 2009, the major narrative surrounding the 2011 class concerned Shreveport Evangel DE Jermauria Rasco, then thought to be one of the top prospects in the class. After the Junior Day, it mostly boiled down to Cedric Reed as Rasco's stock fell some and Reed revealed that he would make his decision before Rasco. Texas landed the top talent on their board with Reed's commitment and as the recruiting process moves on, things continue to look better and better with Rasco, especially as the depth chart clears out somewhat.

Horns_bullet_medium2012 projected numbers: Two or three. This is a number that could well change with attrition and possible position changes, like the moves of both Alex Okafor and Greg Daniels inside. A commitment from Jermauria Rasco could also alter the numbers.

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Horns_bullet_mediumGoBR's Wish List

Mario Edwards, Denton Ryan -- The first thing that you need to know about Mario Edwards is that the guy is 6-4, 250 pounds and played some split end last season for Prosper, averaging over 20 yards per catch. And he doesn't play split end just because he's big -- the kid can move, with a reported 40 time of 4.65.

The speed helps him tremendously at defensive end, where he racked up nearly 70 tackles as a sophomore. There isn't much film available on the big defensive end who will be playing his junior season at Denton Ryan, but he does have the quickness you would expect from someone with his 40 time and he has ideal lower-body thickness for the position. He also has a quick first step and elite change of direction ability, as well as the body control to make catches in traffic while being interfered with.

The few clips that are available are enough to reveal that Edwards is the freak of nature that his measurables suggest and that means that no matter how raw he is as a prospect (and he isn't that raw), there's too much upside for him not to be one of the top targets in the class. Even if he does put on the weight to become a major force at defensive tackle. Unquestionably a top-10 talent in the class -- making him a top Texas target. The guy is an absolute monster.

Video clips:

Sacking the quarterback, and again

80-yard TD catch

Another long catch

A news story after a game in which he had 15 tackles and four sacks

Gimme factor: Five Gimme's out of five

Victor Irokansi, Pflugerville Hendrickson -- If there's another player at the position who deserves the title of physical freak, it's Irokansi, who jumped over the mat during the Texas Showcase Combine when completing his broad jump. He reports a 32-inch vertical and a 4.5 40 time. A lean athlete with explosive quickness and strong ability to change direction, Irokansi struggles at times to time the snap count and often struggles getting off the ball. When he does time the snap count correctly, he's extremely difficult to stop.

Since he is so lean, Irokansi doesn't have ideal lower body strength and it impacts his tackling ability -- he's pretty much a drag-down guy at this point and often doesn't bring his hips and lower body on tackles. Of course, Reggie Wilson fixed that pretty quickly with some prompting from his coaching staff last season, so Irokansi may be able to as well.

Irokansi does a solid job of using his hands, showing some ability to bull rush opponents and to try play opponents who try to cut at his legs. Like most high school defensive ends not named Jackson Jeffcoat, Irokansi is raw as a pass rusher and uses eitehr his speed off the edge or a bullrush to pressure the quarterback.

The major concern with Irokansi is whether or not he can put on the necessary weight to play as a true defensive end in college -- if he struggles to get to 240 pounds or more, he could play as stand-up pass rusher at the Buck position. Let's just say this, if Irokansi makes the short trip down 35 to Austin to play college football, Coach Boom will find a way to use him effectively.

A big Texas fan, Irokansi is on record as saying that he would commit on the spot if offered.

Gimme factor: Three Gimme's out of five

Victor Irokansi (via hhorne)

Horns_bullet_mediumGoBR's Watch List

Michael Richardson, DeSoto -- A bit undersized at around 6-2 and 220 pounds, Richardson could end up as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme or a Buck type in the Texas defense. After watching Richardson in the DeSoto game against Leander early in the season, there wasn't anything particularly impressive to report.

Part of that had to do with the fact that Richardson often played as a 3-4 defensive end, which does not suit his strength at this point -- his speed off the edge. Basically, he looked like just another guy in that game -- a similar assessment to this one from Recruitocosm.

In a scrimmage against Tyler John Tyler ($), though, the report was that Richardson was dominant on the evening, collecting three sacks and terrorizing the opposing offensive line off the edge. The issue is that Richardson doesn't have a lot of explosive quickness to his game for his size, although his is a better than average striker and overall a physical player.

Gimme Factor: Two Gimme's out of five

Eric Davis, Tyler John Tyler -- Another player who has some work to do in adding mass, Davis is another quick pass rusher (4.65 reported 40 time) off the edge who benefited as a sophomore from playing with Ashton Dorsey, the freshman defensive tackle for Texas. As a sophomore, Davis recorded 46 tackles, six sacks, and two fumble recoveries.

Gimme Factor: Two Gimme's out of five

Horns_bullet_medium2012 Early Narrative

All about Mario Edwards -- the early narrative at defensive end is much like the narrative for defensive tackle with Brenham's Malcolm Brown. It all starts with the Denton Ryan star, whose father played defensive back at Florida State and in the NFL for the Cowboys. Despite the connection to Florida State, the early word is that Edwards is high on Texas. There is almost no doubt at this point that the top priority is landing Edwards in the class -- everything else will move from there.

The athletic upside and commitability of Irokansi helps keep him on the Wish portion of this list, but in all truthfulness, he's much closer to being on the Watch list with Davis and Richardson than being an absolute top target like Edwards. Like defensive tackle, this is a position where there will probably be some names that pop up later in the recruiting process.

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M.Edwards - any solid-framed.....

250lb. hs junior is certain to be a 310lb. DT in MadDog’s program.

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by HornChamps on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

So in that case do we only recruit 220lb DE

with the hope that they’ll get up to 260?

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by 2Cor12:9 on Sep 22, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Edwards is a top target, Irokansi is a take

Edwards is a freak. He won’t go Jackson Jeffcoat his freshman year, but he will contribute. Needs some polish, but the athletic upside just blows you away. I hope he can stay lean and stay outside at DE.

Irokansi is of West African descent and from the Austin area. Runs a 4.5. That’s a take. If he commits on the spot that gives the 2012 DEs a good foundation.

GOBR does Texas go out of state with a 3rd DE in 2012?

The Jesus over at The ’Cosm thinks Rasco is a very strong Texas lean. His new film is much better and appears to be the dominant player everybody thought he was. Rasco is very important to the 2011 class because I think he would be the only true DE prospect.

Rasco could certainly play Buck also. I think Reed plays some strongside DE, but much more time time at DT.

by billfromlaketravis on Sep 21, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Rasco had to deal with a lot of double and triple teams last season.

I spoke with someone a while back who closely follows football in Louisiana and he said that Rasco got frustrated at times last season and took some plays. Strange that whoever put his junior highlights together neglected to show any of his ability on the edge, because he still had quite a few sacks. Apparently this season teams are checking into plays that run away from him virtually every down and from the sound of it he is dealing with it better.

It does sound like things are going well with Rasco, though it’s hard to tell because he hasn’t named any leaders publicly, but I do agree that Reed will most likely either end up playing inside at defensive tackle or as a 3-4 defensive end. Wish there was better film available on him.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Sep 21, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was thinking about this DE situation yesterday

It’s interesting because with the moves of both Okafor and Daniels inside, we are suddenly deeper at DT than DE in the foreseeable future. Especially if Kheeston Randall comes back.

Rasco is a must because Reed is going to spend more time inside, much like Acho this year. I think we need to trust Bible, Howell, Dorsey, Jackson, Russell, etc. and move Oak back to DE and create a three-DE rotation with Jeffcoat and Wilson. Meanwhile there’s like a hundred guys that can play inside at DT, especially a year from now. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if Desmond Jackson came in and just immediately humped the position into submission by himself—he’s a great complement to Randall.

As I said on Recruitocosm, the tapes of Edwards so far show a poor first step. Perhaps that’s just due to a low sampling size, but you have to evaluate what you have.

The best thing about talking defense is whatever happens it going to be the correct decision for the team and will put them in the best shape to win, in stark contrast to the offense.

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 21, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG - A 250lb DE that averages 20 yards per catch?

Is it against NCAA rules to give a kid like that to Muschamp? If not – expect a rule change.

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by realmccoy on Sep 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Head coaches in waiting may not...

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Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 21, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

re: what's going on over at iamthe12thman

Since I have the singular (not really) distinction of having been banned, I can’t comment on that thread. Leave those poor guys alone. For your sake more than theirs…

Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 21, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah I shouldn't have said anything.

I almost never go over there because there’s no reason, but I made the mistake last night and didn’t have the self control to let a statement like “Manziel is the best quarterback in the state” slide. I don’t really know anything anyway since I just plagiarize other people’s stuff, so I don’t know what I was thinking having an opinion about that.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Sep 21, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to go there to find out how the Aggies played

Since they’re never on TV.

The plagiarism bit was too far, even for those guys. I really do feel bad for A&M fans who have to choose between texags and SBN’s joke of a Texas A&M blog, especially when we have BON and Barking Carnival.

I’ll keep taking your plagiarized work, btw.

Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 21, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

The personal attacks and the plagiarism accusations are wayyy over the line. I don’t understand how these guys are allowed to manage an SBN blog. I guess I just assume that every site should be run the way this one is, but that is sadly not the case. If only we could unsubscribe from blogs…..

by NeTexHorn on Sep 21, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of them are.

I mean, you can have civilized discourse and disagree on every other SBN blog.

If you disagree with the moderators at idon’tevenhave12fans.com, you:

1. Don’t know anything about football.
2. Are a t-sip.
3. Are banned.

They really love being kings of the kiddie pool over there.

Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 21, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was a #2 who ended up being a #3 while passing through #1

by NeTexHorn on Sep 21, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I went straight to a #3 for telling people not to listen to Beergut.

I feel bad about that. He’s sort of adorable, in a “look at that baby wetting himself” sort of way.

Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma

by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 22, 2010 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quick Question

What is the “gimme” system exactly? Is it how well a recruit is going to pan out, or whether we offer, or whether you think they will commit. Thanks in advance!

by Egonz on Sep 23, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

it's a complex system..

..derived from the desire of a certain recruit, and the need for that position. After several hours cranking out formulas that depend on the risk/success probability of a player, the “gimme factor” is deduced to an easy to read scale of 1-5 “gimmes”.

by vy til i die on Sep 23, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

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