Accountability Matters
More specific breakdowns from this game will come from others. For now, I want to air my frustrations on the progression of the season.
I watched the first half of this game partially in horror, anger, and even some dark amusement. By the time halftime came along, I looked at the ten point deficit, thought about how atrocious our team was playing, and let it sink in: We're probably going to lose. I knew we had played right into UCLA's hands, and they were just going to run, run, run at our defense. While I know our defense is excellent, it is not suited for that type of game, and I just had a really bad feeling about the 2nd half. I've seen Texas come back from far greater deficits, but this game felt wrong in every way.
My mind flashed back to 2007, when a mediocre K-State team rolled into Austin stuck it to a mistake-prone and undisciplined football team for a three score victory. I remember standing in the rain that day, watching a team that couldn't get out of its own way, and I remember feeling embarrassed for our coaches and for Mack Brown. It's not so much that the team lost but that they lost playing stupid, undisciplined football. It was painful because none of the problems in that '07 game were new; we saw all the issues throughout non-conference play, and absolutely nothing changed. Those problems manifested in an ugly way on that rainy day, and that 2007 season proved to be one of the most frustrating seasons in Mack's tenure. This game was perhaps not as bad, but it felt much the same. And if Mack wants to rebound, he's going to have to preach one thing: Accountability.
As in the K-State game, nothing that happened today against UCLA was surprising. We showed the propensity in the past three games to throw away downs, commit stupid penalties, and turn the ball over and gift the other team with short fields. We knew going in that the whole "#1 rush defense" stuff wasn't entirely accurate because of the teams were playing, and we knew that our defense can and will wear down in the face of such an offense (check out Scipio Tex's preview of this game talking about just this point). That's why losses like these are so frustrating: The problems were readily apparent to anyone who watched the team play, and many of those were correctable errors. The fact that the team, particularly on offense, came out in such a way again is very disappointing, and the coaches have to take blame for that. I'm tired of Mack trying so hard to protect his players and coordinators. While I appreciate his willingness to take a bullet for the team, he has to know that this kind of performance can't be tolerated at Texas. If we lose because a team straight up beats us, fine; I can accept that. We lost to Oklahoma in 2007 as well, but I was not nearly as angry about that game because I felt we actually played a decent football game. Losing to teams that have no business beating us because we do our best to gift-wrap the game to them is unacceptable.
That '07 season was a turning point for Mack in a number of ways. It showcased his stubbornness and his refusal to hold players and coaches accountable for the trash they were putting the field, and it drove the fanbase absolutely insane, culminating in that humiliating loss to Texas A&M. Mack finally had enough then, and instituted changes that helped kick in our successful 2008 and 2009 seasons. For that, Mack Brown deserves a mountain of credit, but it is nonetheless frustrating that it took the entire season for him to finally admit major problems in the program. I am hoping that it won't take long for Mack to do the same here. I'm not calling for the firings of anyone; at this point, I'm not sure it would be helpful letting go of anyone until the season's end. I'm just hoping that Mack will light a fire under everyone's rear ends and lets them know that just because they've "bled" for the program for X number of years and just because they're nice guys doesn't mean that their jobs are safe. That goes for both players and coaches.
Turnovers. Missed blocks. Dropped passes. Simple mental errors on special teams. Confusing playcalling. Horrendous penalties. Not running a route to the first down markers. I can live with the fact that we will not field a great offense because of personnel limitations, but this team has shown the frightening tendency to be self-destructive. These are the type of errors that have little to do with skill and a lot to do with poor preparation, lazy coaching, and a lack of concentration. I've seen high school teams play less stupid than that. Both players and coaches need to be held accountable for this kind of play.
Maybe this loss is what we needed, because unfortunately Mack is slow to change things unless he gets punched in the mouth like this. But that's the problem in the first place: You don't have to wait for embarrassment to hold people accountable to a standard. The fact that we were 3-0 did not change the fact that there were serious problems that needed to be fixed, and honestly, a loss like this is exactly what this team deserved for their apparent lack of awareness of those flaws. The difference between this game and the Tech game is that Tech's offense matched up poorly against our defense and we turned the ball over closer to their endzone than ours. That's about it. Hopefully, unlike 2007, Mack Brown does not wait until the bowl season to light a fire under the team, feebly hoping that the players and coaches will magically right the ship if we keep doing the same things over and over again. Accountability starts now, and that leads to excellence on the field in the future. And if Mack does not want to get blown off the field in Dallas and in Lincoln, it would be a good idea to evaluate how they're preparing this team during the week.
Another frustrating part of the 2007 season? It was one of the weakest years of college football the past decade or so. The Horns didn't even need to be that good to compete for the national title. This year, while it looks to be much better, it is still a pretty wide open race, and Texas, in all likelihood, ended whatever hopes they had of a title run. Even if we were to run the table, voters will not look kindly at three score losses at home.
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Very disappointing..
This was like one of those boxing matches where one person thru all the punches and the other person just sat there getting their ass get kicked. Texas didn’t even care enough to try and block a punch or throw a punch back. Talk about a lifeless team with no passion or fire. First game in a while I had to turn off before the end. It was that bad.
Could not agree anymore with you
They acted like they wanted no part of that game. Someone needs to step up and be a leader on this team, and hold this team to accountability, like mentioned above.
i said the...
Enmeshed thing during game. The leaders last year never raised up people to take the roll of a leader and nobody is stepping up to take ownership. Not Gilbert, not Jones, not anybody. Gideons my boy but he isn’t the leader the dif needs. His mouth got the best of him this week. Gilbert and the offense play like they have nothing inside. Defense was playing with no heart. Yes they were on the field along time but ya can’t give up. Where was Christian Scott when gideon was missing all those tackles? We are too deep on defense! Sorry guys I’m here in Colorado and have no support system. I still bleed that burntorange baby. We win together and we lose together. We are Texas!
by domingoCO on Sep 25, 2010 11:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We beat ourselves......
and if we have any hope to beat OU or Nebraska (hell K State or A&M too) we have got to recognize the problem with our offensive line, PUNT RETURNERS, and apparently our run defense. I think something significant needs to be done, while I agree firing a coach is typically not appropriate during the season it may still need to be done. Look we know GG and GD have problems but we are going to stick with them for better or worse because Mack is that kind of guy, but something needs to be shaken up….
I'm sure greg davis will make a hell of a quarterbacks coach
much like duane akina made one hell of a defensive backs coach rather than a defensive coordinator
by Longhorn@Berkeley on Sep 25, 2010 8:40 PM CDT reply actions
He is already the QB coach ...
… and has been for years.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 25, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
After his performance the last few years?
He isn’t a good QB coach. He needs to retire.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 26, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Vince Young, Colt McCoy, Major Applewhite ...
I’m hoping this is sarcasm, right?!
Very well said
I agree with everything you said and really hope since Mack cannot hide mistakes behind a win he will be quick to change things up.
The most frustrating thing is that I really could handle the struggles and even the loss if I thought it was leading somewhere, but we have even less of an idea of who we are on offense now than we did at the beginning of the season. If we had struggled early and loss this game while committing to running the ball downhill with an h-back or fullback, as promised, then at least I could live with the fact that we know who we want to be and are going there. Instead we’re stuck right back where we were last year with a team that throws the ball 45 times a game and has the QB be the leading rusher (GG led in attempts today), and this time we have no Shipley to bail the offense out in tough spots.
That said, Mack usually does a great job of rallying the troops so I’m not giving up yet. Let’s hope the issues get addressed quickly and appropriately.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
Agreed
Best we can hope for now is beating OU, winning the South and taking the Big 12 title…
If this loss is what is required to get rid of Greg Davis then so be it.
by jtdiddy on Sep 25, 2010 8:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It won't be...
Greg is going no where as long as Mack’s still here so let’s go ahead and get that out of the way.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
That's like saying ...
… our star running back has got this broken leg. But we’re not going to set it, and we’re not going to bench him. So just figure out how he can win hopping down the field on that other leg.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 25, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Exactly.
It sucks.
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by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 25, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Winning the South??
Are you kidding??? Honestly & subjectively assess the finished product delivered by this TEAM (players & coaches), not the potential or what we wish or think could happen. In four games I’ve seen NOTHING that indicates they could or should contend for even the South campionship. Offense: absolute failure, in the bottom third of the Big 12. Doesn’t do ANYTHING of value well. Special teams: grade D. Not an F because of FG kicker. Tremendous liability. Defense C. Has shown no ability to defend zone read or mobile qb. Coaching: D, insists on running an offensive scheme in spite of overwhelming evidence they don’t have the personel to do so, indicating ignorance or arrogance. Continue to insist things are okay in spite of results that contradict this assertion. Appear to be in denial, like much of the fanbase. This is a hallmark of poor management. This team will struggle with OU, Neb (blowout loss), Kstate, Okie St, & a&m. Hope for third in the South. If this were a corporation our attorney would begin drafting bankruptcy documents, just in case.
How much of what we're seeing
is Greg Davis delivering a scheme that Mack wanted? Go back to the MNC loss. The starting QB goes down who is also one of our leading rushers. There is nobody to come in and take up the slack. In other words, in Mack’s eyes, we lost that game because our offense was one dimensional.
Coach says, “I want to run the ball.” Coach Davis says, “Ok.” He dusts off a scheme to do primarily that but fails to tell Mack the truth, “Mack, you don’t have the personnel to run the ball.”
So they both end up lying to each other, and themselves. All because the emperor has no clothes.
I would agree...
except we didn’t even try to run the ball today. We gave up on it about half-way through the first quarter. And we gave up on it around then against Tech too. We’re right back where we didn’t want to be. Running a QB reliant offense.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
Or pass for that matter
"Football is an incredible game. Sometimes it's so incredible, it's unbelievable."
Tom Landry
Agreed. After today's beating, I can't think of 1 thing we do well on offense
We are pretty good at giving the ball to the other team. 8 turnovers in that last 6 quarters. Our receivers can’t catch or run the proper routes, our oline can’t block, our QB can’t throw an accurate ball, our RBs go down too easy and are all nicked up. I really can’t think of a positive. Someone help me out here.
I agree...
I was just commenting on the fact that it doesn’t look like Mack was forcing the run because we didn’t run it. I wasn’t saying we should try more.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
So either
You recruited lousy RBs and OL, or you have bad RB and OL coaches. Which is it?
by miketag on Sep 25, 2010 9:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
You're out of your element.
The big boys are talking now.
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by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 25, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd say Mac McWhorter is the biggest issue. The running backs would be fine if it weren't for the subpar performances by the o-line making a half-hearted blocks for them.
That’s been the drawback for the Horns for the last few years and it hasn’t been getting better. I’d be content if Mack Brown came out tomorrow and said, Mac’s leaving and he’s not coming back. He needs to be replaced.
TEXAS FIGHT
Haha it must have taken a lot of self-restraint
Not to pee all over the board, huh, Aggie? LOL. Go back to that blog-whats-its-name, Beergut is getting lonely without his little buddy.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 25, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
The problems today were extensive to say the least.....
In progressive order:
1. Turnovers-Fumbles deflate the team. If you want the defense to keep us in the game, don’t fumble the ball giving great field position to UCLA.
2. Scripted play-calling was nice to start the game but completely fell apart once again- Thanks GD- your imagination has spurts of brilliance but generally is unproductive and uninspiring.
3. Receivers- IN PARTICULAR Barrett Matthews drop way too many balls. What’s the point of having a tight end if he can’t catch? Might as well have another lineman.
4. The ole desire fire died in the second half. The defense was sluggish and looked confused. The offense showed no sense of urgency to even try and make a come back. Down by 3 touchdowns and still checking down to the RB for a 1 yard gain. Why? I’d rather see a team making mistakes trying to win then a team trying to not make mistakes but producing no significant and necessary points.
Mack Brown takes the blame for the unsettling performance, but that doesn’t work for me. What now? So he slaps himself on the wrist and we move on?
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
To your Points 1 and
That EXACTLY defines coaching. Good teams protect the ball. Good teams are disciplined enough to avoid penalties; the players KNOW what they can’t do, and they don’t do it. Good teams make the routine plays — the hit the hole, for example, and catch balls that hit the hands, and secure tackles.
Somebody on one of the threads jokingly said if the offense had just taken the knee three times and punted — the entire first half — we’d have been in better position to win.
That plus...
not sending a punt returner back on punts, or at least forcing him to fair catch. That didn’t cost us the game today, but brought to mind that Cotton Bowl nightmare against, I believe, Georgia, when Fred Akers was the coach, with about 4 minutes left. I also recall a fumbled punt in the DKR era, I think against Ark, which rolled into the endzone and resulted in a TD for Ark. I think the rest of the season every punt was fair caught. A little drastic, but effective.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Fire the O Line coach
I bet we would see drastic improvement in this team with a meaner, nastier, fundamentally better run blocking O-Line. A good O-Line could make our average running backs look great.
Next, make the receivers accountable. Drive stopping pass drops are unacceptable.
On a brighter note...
OU is not that good. I still think we have a favorable shot next week. Nebraska is whole different story.
Extended thought on TE: Sure would be nice to have a Jermichael Finley or Bo Scaife or David Thomas now. We have at times underutilized our athletic and capable TEs in the past and now we are trying to over utilize a not so good TE.
"I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn’t recruit me and he said: "Well, Walt, we took a look at you and you weren’t any good.
- Walt Garrison
Yes...
Thank God OU is looking very beatable…but if we play like today it wont really matter who we play I guess.
by jtdiddy on Sep 25, 2010 9:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It looks like the offense is coached by a Bowden/Richt
And the D is coached by a Sabanite.
Differences in mental toughness.
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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“Accountability” is not the problem. It’s not about “motivation” or “discipline” either. What we are seeing is less a failure of character or leadership than preparation. Our players seem uncertain because they are not moving naturally within a system they know. Juniors and seniors ought to be comfortable taking over for graduates, but we’re not seeing that. The stupid, pointless penalties continue to mount, which means either our players lack self-control or they do not understand the rules or strategies of the game. In short, our program is failing to develop players to play at a championship level.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Re "stupid, pointless penalties"
I would be interested to know how many “false start” penalties we have received in the last 2 or 3 years in the red zone and how many of those forced us to kick a FG rather than punch the ball in for a TD.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
The problem
Is a WR like Shipley who can make the moves, “catch” the ball, and spread the field. A guy the defence must watch and key.
Defence was just on the field tooooo long and in hot conditions, they fell apart mostly in the second half. Offence left them out to dry.
“too much too think about”. Errors occur when you’re thinking hard (you and I have done this) -——mistakes are made. Off sides, drop balls, assignments, even fumbles.
And fundamentals. Recruite great players and they know it all? Not really, back to square one.
This wasn’t their last loss this year unless a receiver steps up to the plate and this offence is simplified.
Oscar, Wimberley TX
UK
I like how you use the British forms of defense and offense…defence and offence sound so much less repugnant than what I saw today. Well played.
Oh, and recruite too, although, I’m not sure that one flies in the motherland.
Well said
You said a lot. Just hope we can see some growth and have an enjoyable season. Chins up. Hookem
"you can destroy a man, but you cannot defeat him." - e.h.
by drankthewine on Sep 25, 2010 11:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Chris Simms era creeping in...
Like Simms, I see Gilbert as a talented player with much upside, but again forced into that god-forsaken horizontal game plan. He has a great arm, but like Simms, he locks in on receivers, and thanks to coaching philosophy, will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, fully explore his talent, because GD doesn’t believe in passing for over 10 yards downfield. I fear the kid could be damaged, not only physically, but also mentally. I mean, his first game was the national championship, and he’s now thrown into a system that’s run by a pathetically uncreative, and conservative play-caller, and his enabler. I’m starting to see shades of 2000, but with a team that lacks very basic skills and discipline, if not talent. Not much yelling at players on the sidelines today, very bad sign. I fear that our prized RB recruit will bolt, as will Muschamp, who may be seeing the writing on the wall with this one. Mack, you’ve done a wonderful job with the program. You’ve resurrected it, and put us in with the elite again. You can still salvage your legacy, but your hubris I fear will be your undoing. Your personal bias and frienship to Davis is ultimately going to bring the program down. It’s time to step down (or aside i.e. AD), and give Muschamp the reins. However, I’m not optimistic. This is what 5 million a year will do when paid to a stubborn, stubborn man. He’s no longer hungry (and is now very rich), and basically has lost sight of the objective. We’ve become an NFL farm system that manages, but no longer coaches players to win the college game. We’re a great place to play because of the resources, tradition, and visibility, but the college magic is going. I see the dark late eighties just around the corner. I don’t want to go back there, it was bad, very bad.
100% Agave Azul
The horizontal passing game
I have often defended Greg Davis, while still wishing someone would tear the “bubble screen”/wide receiver screen out of his play book. I think he likes the play for 2 reasons: (1) it gets our speedy players “out in space” and (2) it is supposed to give a new and/or struggling QB confidence by completing an easy pass. Unfortunately, it rarely has worked for us either because the execution is poor (the blocking is not there, the pass is dropped, the play is too slow developing) and/or every team we play knows it is GD’s favorite play and is expecting it.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Oh, I'm pretty sure Mack has "learned" nothing
It’ll take getting whupped by OU and Neb to do that. And even then, I have my doubts. There’s a reason he loves GD so much. They’re both old men who do not care to change with the times. He’ll keep carrying on until he can’t carry on anymore, which is a shame, because he’s done great things at Texas, but there you have it.
In-VINCE-able.
Unfortunately, I agree.
Just one thing I failed to mention. I do not want to go back to the late eighties because of where we were in the world of college football — no offense to that team, but it was an achievement to beat North Texas back then — but I have to say, we had more dedicated fans, and players that played with tons more pride. It was just that we played with everything we had.
100% Agave Azul
Replace "mack" with Bpbby and you could write for FSU in 2004
This team will improve in '10... on its 16-16 conference record over the last 4 years.... after losing 20 games in the last 4 years... after having the 7th worst major-conference defense... after not even winning its own division in the ACC in the last 4.
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by Bud Elliott on Sep 25, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Mack demonstrated some accountability in the press conference
He really acted like the CEO that he is. In the end, it’s all on him.
However, it’s one thing to say the right thing and another to do the right thing.
It’s frustrating that the philosophies of our football and basketball teams are identical in ways. Excellent recruiting, but dirt poor player development. What a complete comedy of errors we saw today.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions
The only accountability here is to get rid of GD
Which he won’t do until his own job is on the line, which it won’t be for a while. Give it two more losses, to OU and Neb, then probably a fourth loss to OK St if things continue as is.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 26, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions
http://insidetexas.com/news/story.php?article=2683&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
"It’s disappointing and stunning," Brown said. "In fact, I’m shocked."
This is the problem. Mack, why are you shocked at this performance when the red flags have been there since Game 1? It’s time to wake up and smell reality.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I understand why Texas fans boo. Their team has lost 4 of its last 38 games. Can’t tolerate that kind of mediocrity.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
spoken like someone with only the flimsiest knowledge of our program
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Justice likes to inflame...
I have read many of Justice’s columns, especially on the Astros. I suspect he is being paid by the number of "hits’ he has on his Houston Chronicle blog, bcause he loves to inflame and irritate. One week he will tear into the Astros’ owner, Drayton McLane, a couple weeks later he will write how McLane is the best owner the Astros have ever had, etc. He will throw in irrelevant political comments on his sports blog. A few years ago after A&M had beaten the Horns in football and basketball both, Justice wrote that A&M was now UT’s “daddy.” In fact, he is so often scarcastic and so often flip-flops, you don’t know whether he is serious or not about what he writes.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Richard Justice once argued that the Astros were better off with Adam Everett than A-Rod.
So yeah.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 26, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
It's the same "but we're 3-0!!!" argument
He hasn’t actually WATCHED how bad this team has been offensively.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 26, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
In 2007
MB and co. eventually took the players to task. But back then, we were all clamoring for the more talented youth to step in for the under-performing upperclassmen. Now, in 2010, the best players are already out there. We can’t hope for some ASU Holiday Bowl sea change. What we see on the field represents our best chance at winning, which doesn’t represent much of a chance at winning at all.
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
I think CowboyTD summed it up well - Re: defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoZ1IG9uT_c
Our defense in the 1st half was AWESOME, and continually bailed out the team from the game blowing open to due our offensive ineptness.
Because I’m a masochist, I wanted to see how the ESPN college football shows reacted to the game. It’s quite a shame that they are spinning the game to look like UCLA and their running game dominated Texas’ defense. If that were really the case, wouldn’t UCLA have been able to successfully run the ball in the 1st half when our defense was fresh?
UCLA 1st half running stats: 24 carries for 71 yards (this includes sacks) – an awesome 3 yards per carry.
With that said though, how can you not be disturbed our inability to stop UCLA’s running attack in their long TD drive that involved like 20 straight runs in the 3rd quarter? In that drive, the defense lost their mojo and intensity.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 1:10 AM CDT reply actions
Running game wore us down
This game was won by UCLA in the trenches and with big, powerful runners. They wore us down the way a power running game is designed to.
Wouldn't put down a 3 yard average.
Especially, as you say, ‘when we were fresh’. My coach told us an offense that could get 3 yards every play is unstoppable.
by jmptexas on Sep 26, 2010 10:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
my thoughts
It feels like a long time since Texas has lost a regular season game so there is some shock to get over here. I do see some glaring issues with this edition of the horns. For one, we lack an offensive leader or a personality that brings the party together. For more than half a decade we have had the good fortune of having 2 very good, and also very charismatic signal-callers. Gilbert may have the talent but he is not the field general (yet) that VY and Colt always seemed to be every Saturday. This wouldn’t be a huge issue if we had some senior leadership at some other offensive positions, but lets face it…we don’t. The O-line is full of talented softies. The wide recievers are varied in their talents but none is a bonefide offensive leader or play-maker. Malcolm Williams should have had a Roy Williams like career because he has all the talent in the world but he is either too soft mentally or simply doesn’t have NFL hands. Ahh, on to the RB crew. Cody Johnson is not anywhere near a dynamic enough runner to ever be named the starter for a school that has produced 2 RB Heisman winners and the one time NCAA leader in Career rushing yards. How the staff ever came to that conlcusion in the first place scares the hell out of me. I know he is no longer the starter but its the principle. Secondly, DJ Monroe and Fozzy are basically the same back. Both are very quick but don’t seem to change direction as fast as guys like Noel Devine, Trent Richardson, LaMichael James, Kendall Hunter, or Quizz Rogers. I mention the last 3 guys specifically because they all played high school football in the great state of Texas. They have what I would call dynamic speed or more plainly, football speed. I wonder how or why we couldn’t land atleast one of them. Is it poor scouting, bad recruiting, or just bad lack? Maybe we need to be looking more to Florida and the Southeast for the perimeter and skill positions. All that being said, DJ and Fozzy could be mildly successful if our line was alot nastier and more geared to run block. It starts and ends in football with the heaping mass at the line of scrimmage. The Defense is fine and has the leadership it needs in Sam Acho, Aaron Williams, and suprisingly Keenan Robinson. JJ is going to be a stud especially if he can get a tick faster and stronger. Overall, im proud of the way the defense played against a tough scheme. They kept us in the game for quite a while and maybe lost a little passion late in the game. Mack said in a team meeting earlier this year, “there is some entitlement on this team, there is some selfishness on this team.” It’s time to get that stuff cleaned up. Fortuneatly, we didnt lay this stinker in conference play so we can still whole-heartedly go after one of our major goals every year and that is to first win the Big12 south and then win the conference. That journey begins next saturday in Dallas where I expect the horns will come out with a much different mentality. What this team must realize (and all of us for that matter) is that uniforms, emblems, and block letters that spell out TEXAS do not win football games and never have. Players that are lucky enough to be adorned with those uniforms win games. Players have to come out and play like they deserve to wear that uniform and they have to play up to a standard that represents the emblem on the helment. If they dont, we are just your average college football team and are hence very suceptable to upsets like this. Anyhow, always proud to be a HORN. Hook ’Em.
by orangebloodvampire on Sep 26, 2010 1:24 AM CDT reply actions
I think it's time to can the running game.
We can’t keep banging our heads against the wall hoping to move it. What’s worse is there’s been so much of a focus on trying to create a power running identity that it’s taken the focus off of what this offense excels at and that’s moving down the field through the air.
I understand the need for offensive balance, but throwing away coaching time and valuable plays is counter-productive. The only thing that matters about offense is gaining yards and scoring points.
I’m all for change, but it’s pretty obvious this isn’t the time. Maybe next year with a stud RB prospect and some promising new talent on the offensive line we can start to make a push on the ground, but for right now we need to go with the offense that best suits the personnel we have.
I don’t watch the practices so I can’t say for certainly how much time is devoted to trying to “fix” the running game, but what I know for sure is GG and his receivers don’t have that extra-sensory connection that Colt seemed to have with his guys. I know things like that don’t develop overnight, but that’s what practice is for.
When you get that chemistry working between WR and QB, things just happen reflexively. It looks to me like GG is thinking too much out there. Watching receivers run their routes instead of knowing where they’ll be and watching how the defense is reacting.
The running game needs to be shelved. It’s dead and there’s no chance of pumping life into it this year. We’ve had our chance to make it work but games are too important now to sacrifice on experimental game plans.
We need to focus 100% on just moving the ball down the field as efficiently as we can. It’s time to unleash GG and the rest of this offense’s potential through the air. I’m not expecting us to start racking up 400yds passing every week, but that is what needs to be this team’s identity.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Problem is canning the running game will leave GG vulnerable
he can move, but he’s not elusive like Colt.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
We got beat......
So what? Its one game and won’t make or break our season. Do we have weaknesses yea but they are all correctable.
1. We have to stop with the penalties. We have too much experience on defense to make the stupid mistakes we make.
2. Stick with the running game. I know its sputtering but we have to stay at it… Its the only way we will get better.
3. Pay closer attention to detail and play with enthusiasm. This team doesn’t play with fire. Muschamp isn’t even as amped up as he used to be. We need to figure it out in a hurry we got one week till the RRS.
In conclusion, we as fans have really gotten spoiled over the last 5 years. How many of you can honestly say you thought we were going undefeated? I didn’t and we all knew there would be bumps in the road. Now’s not the time to jump ship. We have a boatload of talent that we must continue to develop. We produce great recruiting classes every year and it takes time. The good news is all the media outlets will be down on us and NOBODY will pick us to win the game in Dallas. But I think we go out and respond to the challenge and win vs. OU in a big way….
by drobe86 on Sep 26, 2010 2:04 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's not that we thought we would go undefeated...
it’s that we didn’t expect to be defeated even before we got to OU and Nebraska and KS.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Dose of Reality
Losing this game wasn’t necessarily a surprise, the manner in which it was lost was. Before the season started I expected Texas to drop one of the next two and lose to Tech or K-State. I simply expected that this team wasn’t going to be there yet, that the offense was in a year of flux and that the defense had lost some leadership that would take some time to replace.
I believe our issues are more deep seated than simply “scheme”. We lack leadership, toughness, concentration, resolve, consistency, and talent. Those problems limit our versatility and directly impact our scheme. That is not to say that coaches are not to blame because ultimately the product on the field is a direct result of recruiting, coaching, and practice. In many ways, the problems we masked last year with Colt, Shipley, Earl, Houston, and Kindle are biting us this year.
When the coaches watch this tape, they could stick there heads in the sand, lose the next two and still finish 10-3 by simply going back to a spread look as many of you are suggesting. But ask yourself how that might affect recruiting. Scrapping the run may not play well with guys who verbally committed to a renewed running attack. Tthe reality to me is that we have to address our problems during the season. What am I suggesting? Scrap half of the playbook or more on offense and add another blocker. Put both TEs on the line or bring one in as a HB. Dedicate this team to running the football. But really do it this time, Mack. Will there be pain? Yes. Could we lose 5 games because of it? Yes. But, its worth it. If anyone on this blog wants this team to succeed with Malcolm Brown as your tailback for the next 3 or 4 years, then Texas should start the change now and not wait until spring or fall.
On paper, Texas can make a run next year and the year after. We need to get on that path today.
Did Saban call Malcolm Brown this morning?
On the one hand we have Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram running 24 times for 157 yards and 2 TDs. On the other hand, we have a last gasp experiment of 5’9", 171lb. RB D.J. Monroe (and I am a BIG fan of D.J.‘s), the 4th RB to play for Texas this abbreviated season. On the one hand we have ’Bama reaching down deep to keep their repeat Nat’l Championship hopes alive. On the other hand, we have Texas failing at 70% of the game to lose….at HOME…to a (1-2) unranked UCLA team. Guess who gets a phone call this morning??
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
I would not be surprised
Maybe not this morning, but that call will surely happen soon if we dump the run.
I thought about that as well,
I hate to say it, but the kid has no options in the State of Texas. Unless there is a program I’m not considering, most of the schools in Texas run spread offenses, which means if Malcolm wants to stay close to home, he’ll have to fits his square peg in a round hole, otherwise he needs to look to a program like Alabama if he wants to be himself.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Its not the spread its the commitment to the run
or lack thereof that could scare him away. A&M has done a fine job of running the football with a spread attack and its probably safe to expect Christine and maybe Gray will find a role in the NFL someday (Goodson did). Texas could still have a spread offense but be committed to balance the way OU and OSU have been for the past few years.
Still my fear is a team like Bama creeping in. Brown was already considering Bama based on reports but ultimately chose Texas. With Ingram and Richardson looking like early exit candidates this could rear its head again.
Obviously you can run out of the spread
but its better done with Jamaal Charles than Malcolm Brown. He needs a power running attack to flourish, and I doubt he can find it in-state. I find the lack of variety in a state that is big enough to have its own conference to be startling.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 27, 2010 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
So does this mean we're going to see a ton of Gilbert under center....
they spent 75% of spring practice with it, and most of game 1. We have seen more shotgun and 3/4 wide the last 2 games….and we have had 9 turnovers.
I just get the feeling, Mack and Davis are going to reel in the offense………..and go back to this.
Texas running game.
There is no reason Texas shouldn’t be able to run the ball. They get first dibs at the best recruits in one of, if not thee, best football states in the country. Heck, they should be able to get enough good walkons from the state to be able to put up a good running game.
What’s the problem then? If they have the best talent available, then there is something missing from the coaches.
Problem is the coaching. GD and the offensive coaches are too busy living up the Austin lifestyle
They have lost their edge. Time for some heads to roll….
See the Whaley, C. Michael recruiting debacle
It’s not like we have an unlimited roster and unlimited scholarships to hand out. Texas has to SELECT someone out of a hat of great high school recruits. One screw up can doom you for years.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll be Honest, I was More Amused by this Loss Than Angry
Because as the game began, and the boys started doing GD’s “plays”, I knew he and Mack had learned nothing from the previous three games. Us bumbling our way into wins against Rice and Wyoming, or lucking out in Lubbock, where we needed two major phantom calls to sustain our “long and magical final drive” that sealed the game. When the game started and we were doing the exact same things, only less competent (if such a thing was possible) against a much better D than we’ve faced before, I knew it was going to be a long, long day.
In-VINCE-able.
Can't say we didn't see this coming...
We struggled with Rice, Wyoming and Tech….all 3 in the same areas. I think we are an average team this year that will be struggling with runs up the middle and an offense trying to be something it isn’t without star talent in the RB, WR, TE and O line positions (Basically the entire offense). Face it, we’re young and dumb. It happens! Let’s just hope by losing 4-5 games this season we don’t have star recruits starting to look at emerging Big 12 teams.
Also, at what point do we give Lil McCoy some playing time? See what he can do?
They aren't going to bail on Gilbert...
and I know some are questioning already if he is over-rated……..but what message does that send to future QB recruits if we give up on a 5 star rated QB after 4 or 5 starts? Believe me our rivals would drill that message home on the recruiting trail if we did that.
This is Gilberts show this season and McCoy would play only if an injury occurs.
Gilbert did show signs of great potential in the MNC last year….but his big plays were all to Shipley. I do have concern with him too….but he needs to develop a go-to reciever…and we need to bring back the TE position in this offense. Unfortunately it maybe a while before Gilbert gets either. He could use a run game too….but thats a year away too with the Malcolm Brown show next year.
5 Star recruits are not always the answer.
Playing McCoy shows that we use all recruits no matter what they are rated. I actually think you should take the rating and trash them along with preseason polls. Maybe I’m wrong but I bet there are just as many 2-3 star guys who have shined at the college and NFL level as 4 and 5 star athletes….I mean come on Chris Simms???
I'm just looking for some sort of leadership from Gilbert. Get pissed Gilbert. Yell at some people to show up.
The Horns are very entitled. Still thinking this is “last season.” Well it’s not and it’s showing. They could have beaten UCLA but there’s no leadership or killer mentality on either side of the ball. I saw more hands on the hips and walking around yesterday than I’ve seen in 10 years under Mack Brown. They need to find the fire inside now and find it quickly or they are in for a very, very long season. I think they can do it, but I think the coaches need to light the wick and fire some players and play a few hustlers from practice.
like I said above
The “Malcolm Brown” show is not a reality yet. There are months to go, and we have seen 5 star recruits that “love Texas” change their mind. The building process for next year should start today, focus on running the football so that we don’t have these headaches again next year with Brown (if we are so lucky to have held on to his commit).
I'm looking for "It" with Gilbert...haven't seen it yet
Whether that’s the Leadership intangible, where you can see that he’s definitely the leader of the Offense, if not the team, or the belief in his abilities to “make something happen” when a play breaks down, or enough of a grasp of the Offense/Defensive Schemes to make adjustments.
Certainly not giving up on him, but the things above I saw with VY/Colt in one form or another as they morphed into the Elite QBs they became.
I just haven’t seen one thing yet this year so far that says…“he’s on the right track”.
I’m frustrated with Turnovers/Penalties as well, but Gilbert’s play is bothering me the most, because it sets the Tone for the rest of the things happening on the field. I understand that Play Calling, state of the O-Line, Running Game, TEs, Receivers are factors, I’m waiting for SOMETHING to this point that gives me hope for the future.
by LeftHandedTexan on Sep 26, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions
This one hurt
I knew we would struggle, but who would think that every single Flaw in this team would show at the same time.
Just felt like in the first three games, things went wrong, but other parts of the team picked up the slack.
Today, things went wrong, and instead of the defense stepping up, or Gilbert making a clutch pass things just went even wronger.
Hook 'em
Let's not get carried away
Look, I’m not thrilled with what I saw yesterday either, and it’s clear that there are some coaching/personel issues with this year’s team which need to be addressed quickly.
But some of the comments here an elsewhere on BON since yesterday are rather silly. One loss does not mean that we’re reverting to the 1980s. A QB not playing well in his fourth career start does not mean that he will NEVER NEVER NEVER be good.
And since I’m typing this on a Blackberry and will have a limited amount of time to respond, I’m a bit leery of raising this issue, but I’m a bit perplexed by the arguments I seem to be reading that GD is such an awful coordinator that he somehow made our defense look like crap as well. (Arguments around the line of "the defense was sooooooo tired and “the defense couldn’t just keep bailing the offense out”.)
To paraphrase Mike Gundy, Muschamp is a man, and he shouldn’t be immune to criticism when the players under his command have a subpar game. I’m surprised to see arguments suggesting that Muschamp is above criticism when a team which was shut out at home two weeks earlier managed to run up 34 points on us while passing the ball a mere nine times. That’s embarrassing.
Yet I keep seeing arguments which assert that the defense would have been better if only the offense had a better game.
I know everyone hates GD, and I’m certainly not defending him today, but I think implying that he’s to blame for the failings of Muschamp’s troops is taking things a bit too far.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Muschamp so far has been great
the players are looking good and the majoriy of the games we play the defense shows up.
So when you have 1 bad game you give him the benefit of the doubt that the defense will come back.
The offense… well they just havn’t been there all year long and somethings got to go
No problem with giving Will more of a benefit of the doubt on a go-forward basis, but in terms of a one-game evaluation for the purposes of assessing blame, he doesn’t get off the hook, unless he isn’t held to the same high standards to which we hold everyone else.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 26, 2010 11:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't agree, and TheElusiveShadow has stated it quite well
If we actually had a competent offense that could get a lead on UCLA earlier, they would be forced to use a passing game, which of course would be disastrous for them thanks to our defense, which is much more oriented to stopping the passing game than a power running game to begin with. That’s why Stanford was able to beat them 35-0. It’s not because Stanford is literally 57 points better than us. A competent UT offense completely changes the outcome of this game. Yes, that is on Greg Davis and the players that goofed.
These players are human with a finite stamina, and you can’t blame them for throwing in the towel knowing our offense had no chance of doing anything all game.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 26, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Have you seen the play chart...
…for the first drive of the second half? When the D was rested from the half and the TOP discrepancy hadn’t taken hold yet?
80 yards on 8 plays, 76 on the ground?
There’s plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the ball.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 26, 2010 11:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Curtis Brown disappointed
He had a bad day but especially failed to perform on run support on that drive and others. Not to mention the punt return mistake.
Where was Scott? Did not see him at all.
Agree that Muschamp got schooled by Chow. We were playing a pass first scheme most of the game. We should have loaded up the box and dared Prince to beat us with his arm. Poor game plan.
disagree
y’all came out in a 4-3 full intending to stop the run and force them to pass, and for one half you did that
obviously, UCLA adjusted at halftime, and y’all did not respond well to the adjustments
"Plenty of blame to go around"--
Absolutely. That’s why all this “Fire GD” campaign is misguided. I imagine there are better OC’s out there and I hate his love for the bubble screen, but firing him will do little or nothing about an inexperienced QB, an OL that doesn’t block, receivers who drop balls, dumb penalties, players who try to field punts on their own 5 yard line, running backs who can’t break a tackle, .fumbles, injuries, interceptions on tipped balls, a suspect rushing defense, academically ineligible players, and all the other problems we have seen this year. Firing Davis may make people feel better but will not automatically make the team better.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
you aren't placing proper blame upon Davis for the faults you are listing.
Those things, the poor line, the bad QB reads, the running backs not breaking tackles, are, in fact, his fault.
If its the scheme, the system, his teaching techniques, or his method of preparing and motivating, then it is clearly his fault.
If it is the personnel, then he is still at fault because it is his responsibility to evaluate talent and create recruiting wishlists for Mack, or, failing that, it is his responsibility to adapt his methods to the personnel he has.
In what way is the ability of the offense to function not the responsibility of the offensive coordinator?
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take your argument to its logical conclusion
If Davis is reponsible for everything that happens on the offense because he is in charge, then Mack Brown is ultimately responsible for everything that happens on the team. If Mack Brown is not happy/does not agree with GD’s teaching methods, personnel decisions, play-calling, or anything else he should have long ago made his expectations and perferences clear and/or replaced Davis. I am not arguing that GD is a great OC and have often questioned his play calling, especially his horizontal passing game and his inability to establish a running game. I am just saying it is not fair to give Brown all the credit for the successes but say Davis doesn’t get credit because he has been “bailed out” by superior players like Young and McCoy. Nor is it fair to tie Davis to the stake, unless Brown is there next to him. Either Brown doesn’t see Davis as the problem, or he sees him as the problem but is willing to jeopardize the entire program out of friendship and loyalty.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Muschamp does not get a free pass
But the defense, despite it’s struggles in the second half, played well enough to give us a chance to win. The offense did almost nothing the entire game.
Overall, it was a team failure across the board, but it is clear that what’s keeping us from being a Big 12 title contender right now is an anemic offense and not a defense that had a bad half.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 26, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
It makes me crazy to listen to this kind of argument.
From my observations on this board I have surmised that Muschamp could coach 47 consecutive quarters of lights-out football, while Davis disappoints spectacularly over the same span, and if for one single half the two units perform equally poorly, the Apologists march out this exact argument, that each coach is to blame equally, and that, in some kind of unimaginable twist of logic, this proves that Greg Davis isn’t entirely inept,
The defense is going to have a bad game or two every season, its inevitable; its true even of National Champions. In our case, the defense is the only unit functioning, and so a bad game on their part guarantees a loss. But we’re supposed to have a functioning offense as well, in which case we simply hope that we never encounter a game in which both units are dysfunctional at the same time, and so long as that never occurs, an undefeated season remains possible.
So yes, in our case, a loss is almost necessarily the offense’s doing, as we cannot maintain expectations that our defense will play perfectly for 12 straight games. If we have no offense at all, then that gap in our team’s completeness will inevitably be our undoing, as it was yesterday. Your argument, to me, is tantamount to stating that the defense should have bailed out the offense for the fourth consecutive game, and since the defense couldn’t bail out an inept offense (again), the defense is to blame as much as the offense…which is lunacy. Utter lunacy.
What bothers me about the arguments that GD Apologists tend to make is that they are disingenuous arguments, grounded more in an emotional and protective kind of devil’s advocacy than any serious, analytical evaluation of Coach Davis’ performance. I sense in these arguments the fear that we as a fanbase may take our criticism too far, and so, true or not (and in this case, certainly true), the criticisms are countered with an abundance of goodwill, some sort of attempt at balance, whether there exists justification for such balance or not.
And personally I don’t understand it. I just want, for a minute, to dwell in the mindset of an Apologist. From my position, I can appreciate the desire for cordiality and pleasantry, but ultimately the whole thing is entirely dishonest, and I find authenticity to be a more useful condition than simple and unconditional niceness.
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by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm assuming you're addressing this at me
I’m still on my BB so I can’t see th indentations, but I’m guessing this is aimed at me.
Where did I ever say that Will and GD had to be blamed equally? My points were (1) that Will is not above blame when his players execute poorly and (2) the particular line of argument that GD is to blame for the defensive failures yesterday is silly.
Beyond that, I do have to take exception with your implication that those who disagree with you on this particular issue are disingenuous and even dishonest. I might be entirely wrong, but that in and of itself fails to make me either disingenuous or dishonest. It is possible to have an opinion other than the one you hold without being a liar, whether consciously or subconsciously.
And besides, if the goal of someone like me was to promote some sort of “everyone get along” mentality on BON, why would I bother arguing what I know will be a minority opinion? If I just wanted to play nice on here, I would have been looking to tie GD to the stake after that first TD drive of the second half by UCLA.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 26, 2010 6:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Aimed at all who continuously defend Davis, not you alone
The arguments seem more defensive than factual. There is a tendency to compensate for an angry fanbase that flies off the handle irrationally, and lost in the middle are the rational arguments that Coach Davis doesn’t serve his position competently.
Davis’ contributions this season are indefensible. The entire offense is a wreck from top to bottom. Are you prepared to make the argument that he is doing his job well?
If not, then what is your motive for supporting him in this forum? Is it not an emotional motive more than a factual motive? When I allege “niceness,” I speak not of an amicable attitude toward the commenters in this thread as much as a general sense of ethical responsibility not to allow a man to be ganged up on, or a sense that a dissenting opinion is necessary to keep everyone grounded when the mob seems out of control. If that is the underlying motive, however good the intentions, it bothers me because I consider that not to be in line with the actuality of the matter, which is what I mean when I say dishonest.
Clearly not all those who disagree with me are wrong (I’m an aggressive arguer and I get that a lot), but I put it upon them to disclose their intentions and to ensure that their arguments are consistent with those intentions. If I observe that someone’s argument either does not align with the situation or the position they claim to hold, then I suspect ulterior motives. In the case of those supporting Greg Davis, I sense a need to place social responsibility above evidence.
Please don’t be offended; I respect you a great deal. Understand that I’m saying that, if this is the case, your argument is disingenuous [albeit well-meaning], not that you’re a liar.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to be clear...
…my “defense” of GD in the post which began this chain was a limited one aimed at those who seek to somehow pin yesterday’s defensive failings on him. Though I have been a “defender” in years past (more against the unthinking criticisms than against the well thought-out critiques like yours have been), I have been noticably quiet on that front this seen. If you had been privy to some of my emails and texts during the game yesterday, you would be able to rest assured that I was not excusing GD (or MM, for that matter) for what was going on on the offensive side of the ball. I’m very much not above blaming this season’s offensive failure on GD.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 26, 2010 7:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Muschamp's problem was personnel, not necessarily scheme
We needed Lokey or Miller yesterday. The lack of a true tackle hurt. We saw this problem coming, we’ve been thin for years. You do have to blame Muschamp for either not developing the tackle spot fast enough, or not bringing in someone who could do the job over the past two year. Overall he has still done a fine job, but just saying….
Bleh
I still feel just sick to my stomach about that game. Haven’t felt this way since 2007, and the Chris Simms era. Gross.
JUST LIKE 1997
I was actually in the stands for the UCLA beatdown with my parents in 97’. It was like the worst waking dream I can remember concerning the Longhorns. Everyone booed then too. Yesterday felt every bit like 1997. This was the worst played and worst coached game of the Mack Brown era, period. I was embarrassed to be a fan yesterday. No fight, no heart. I can accept losing a close game where we play our hearts out. But the way this game went down…….I was booing from my living room in Los Angeles. My girlfriend cried. We bleed burnt orange. Our boys, coaches included, better pull their heads out of their asses and find some pride in the next week. This can be a career defining loss if not fixed quickly. Mack has always been one of the best at rallying the troops after such a loss, so we’ll see what happens next week against OU. I’m not optimistic, but I’m still hopeful. TEXAS FIGHT, TEXAS FIGHT, TEXAS FIGHT! Does that mean anything to this new group of kids? Leave it all on the field. I don’t want to see this team EVER lay down on the field of battle again, surrendering like that. Never. Fans don’t deserve to have their hearts broken like this. Can you hear me boys? Can you hear me Mack? We’ll always stand behind you, even in a loss, but you’ve got to at least try. What we witnessed yesterday was a suicide, not a streetfight. Our coach lost his job over a loss like this 13 years ago…….so no one is ever safe. No one. Complacency will never be tolerated. This is TEXAS. So let’s get it together, beat OU, and start earning some respect back. Only then will these two LA longhorn fans be able to forgive and move on. But there’s one thing we’ll never do, and no fan should do……….NEVER FORGET. Just like the Alamo. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Enough said.
by mushrooman on Sep 26, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Have we talked about that one play where Hix came out and Hopkins went in in the 3rd quarter? There were 2-3 guys on Hopkins’ side, and he hesitated and blocked absolutely nobody, resulting in Gilbert taking a big hit completely unnecessarily.
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Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 26, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I told you so
Allow me this .. hahahahahahahahaha!
Wheres that hot shot new york city lawyer now!
I watch a ton of football, it was as clear as the day is long this texas team just wasn’t that good.
How ever I’ll be pulling for you against OSU, a team you should be because they also ain’t very good ..
By the way there is nothing wrong with supporting a non confrence quality team when your team is down come join Bronco nation if only for a year.
PB, GIVE THIS MAN HIS PRIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But in seriousness, wtf dude? Trolling and spamming? GTFO.
Wow...so your brilliant idea is to come on BON to gloat.
I think the comments from this post sort of sums up for me…Link
ATX
Hot shot New York City lawyers...
just can’t hope to contend with mountain wisdom gems such as “clear as the day is long” you folksy, picaresque nobleman, you.
No no. Seriously, let us come revel in your pure and bucolic sense of intellect, the kind we worldly and literate city-slickers just can’t acquire with our books and our travels and our preference for validated published discourse and legitimate research.
Come teach us your mountain ways, so that we may be absolved of our urban sins, and venture upon some transcendental comprehension of our roles as natural beings in a forgiving cosmos, in which life is best understood through platitudinal analogies to nuances of small-town existence, and in which our inferiorities and insecurities are mollified by the hypocritical incorporation of mainstream values such as status-proclamations and bragging about meeting governors, and in which such indulgences can be forgiven on account of our pastoral superiority.
…jackass.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
And even after all my logic and my theory
I throw a mothaf*cka so you ignant niggas hear me.
Nice.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 26, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Gilbert
I’m as ticked off as anyone – not at the loss, I expected a few this year – but at the same old same. But I’m a little disappointed at people questioning Gilbert this early in his career. Remember Colt against Ohio State at home? He was young and could not yet put the team on his shoulders. Gilbert won’t be able to do that, not because he lacks talent or heart, but because we have no discernible offensive scheme to support him. We can’t win consistently with Greg Davis and a drop back passer. Chris Simms anyone? How many 5 yard stop passes and swing routes can you call? If you have no running game and you have your young receivers merely run out and sit in the middle of the defense – you are going to get some batted balls and picks. It’s not Gilbert’s fault – and he has zero run game to help him out.
You can’t bunch your line and run every play like it’s a dive play from the 3 yard line. There is no space and there is not a single defender that we put on an island. We create a scrum and expect our backs to simply run into it. By the time the backs hit the scrum, the line has collapsed and backside pressure is on top of the ball. Do you remember the Stanford game a few years back? I was screaming to move the back up because the ends were getting to him before he got to the line. We lost that game and GD came out after the game and said he “noticed that from watching film?” Really?!?! You could not see that in the game? He now can’t see that packing the line and running into a scrum does not create lanes?
This is not life or death. But then again that’s my point. This is a game. Let these kids go and play. Most of them have been playing for 10 years by now. They know how to play. Stop coaching it like you are playing not to lose. Watch that ASU-Oregon game and see what happens when you allow your athletes to PLAY the damn game. Folks – Greg Davis has been here too long. He has never been that good; he has had his ass bailed out by superior athletes for most of his career and, when he has to outcoach someone, he fails the majority of the time. Get someone in who has some ambition and imagination. Let him audition for a HC job elsewhere – it’s good for the program. If GD was great – you can’t tell me that the OC for a top tier program would not get ONE serious sniff of a head coaching job elsewhere? If not one else wants him, there has got to be a reason. LIke most of you – I’ve said this for years – even when enjoying the success that Vince and Colt brought. I knew this day would come again. I hate to see Mack go just to get rid of Davis. BUt I’ve resigned myself to the fact that only then will we see new blood on offense.
by AZHorn on Sep 26, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Playing not to lose
I was very concerned with a statement from Brown just before the game that “football games are lost, not won.” Aside from the fact that he seemed to prove the validity of his statement Saturday, that sounds like they are indeed “playing not to lose,” in other words, tight, timid, and conservatively. You can’t win like that in most cases. It is similar to a statement he made several years ago to the effect that he told the team, “well our opponent is going to come out fired up, we’ll take his best shot, then come back at them,” (or words to that effect). Why allow a fired up opponent to seize the momentum and the lead? I like Brown but sometimes he makes statement that make me worry about his philosophy.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
by OBdoc on Sep 27, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My God, those holes opened up by the OLine.
It’s almost as if they know how to play football.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 26, 2010 5:25 PM CDT reply actions
My thoughts...
Offensively we let the defense down today, by having NO game… at all. We let UCLA play 3 yards (or 12-20 in some cases) and a cloud of dust on us. The when we got the ball we do NOTHING with it, except drop it when passed or fumble it when handled. This can all be rectified and we can still have a good season. Changes need to occur and many have outlined some of them, one thing that does need to occur NOW, the O-Line needs to start blocking, that is the funadmental precept of any offense, if you cannot block anyone, you cannot run or throw. You cannot score. We were the perfect illustration of that today, and it rippled out to the defense. One poster above made a good point, we have one functioning unit, the defense, and if they have a bad day right now or get worn out like in this game, we have no chance to win. That needs to change, we have to produce and at least manage the ball on offense.
Penalties can be eliminated, blocking schemes can be improved, and if we can CATCH and know where the sticks are, we can move the ball. All of those things are fixable. Mack is a smart man… I do have faith that he and Will M. and GD and Applewhite can figure this out.
One more thing… GG is young and in his fourth start. I think he has massive potential, and I believe at some point we will see it click for him the way it did for Vince in 2004. At least I hope so and I am optimistic about that.
I had a feeling we would experience 2-3 losses this year… I just did not expect one to come from UCLA on our home turf so I was supremely disappointed, however there is a lot of football to still be played and I think we get up for a run at the MNC next year. I always thought that way anyway. I just want to see progress… next week and the week after will tell us a lot.
Play like you mean it...

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