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The immediate effect of a loss like this is to lose all perspective, amply verified all across the Longhorn Nation. Hell, it was a damn stampede, with blue electricity playing off the horns as the thunder rumbled and the lightning flashed each terrible second. Soon the herd split into smaller and smaller groups, mooing their discomfort as if the winds of the storm would carry an answer when there was none, at least in the short term.

Only pain and agony, measured by how much emotion and expectation you invested in this year's edition and how much self-importance you piled on top of that perspective remained. Of course, the perspective fell into the mud immediately and nothing good could be said afterward.

Being a grisly old fart, I've seen a lot of these. Sure, they hurt. If you wanna be a fan and reap the rewards, then there's gonna come a time when it's gonna hurt. At heart, it's your own damn fault, although the first reaction is to blame the coaches, the team, the individual players, and anyone up the line.  Of course, being responsible and taking the blame yourself - when you didn't have a damn thing to do with it except pile up your emotion - is not easy for a fanatic. That is what we are, like it or not. Those with less emotional investment and especially those with none bring out the daggers and spill even more of our orange blood.

All is not lost even if it feels that way. I once met an old time sociologist, wise in the ways of people, and he told me the two most important things he learned about people were: one things leads to another and it takes one to know one. It was funny as hell at the time and didn't seem so wise. The longer I've lived, the more truthful it became. Simple things become complex quite suddenly, and the complex of our hopes and dreams can become pretty damn simple in an instant.

Where are we? Take a walk on the dark side...

Star-divide

Saturday one mistake did lead to another. As a team, the Longhorns are a complex of many variables within which are plenty of deviation. Inexperience and youth are dangerous allies and only reliable within a strong construct. In prior years the Horns had enough strong construct to cover most situations. Not all...those are the one that hurt like now.

Team play requires dedication, sacrifice and endurance, which is always a matter of skill, talent, coaching and leadership. The effectiveness of leadership is really a function of how many team members drop their egos, their own self importance, which is a certain blindness to others and to life's situations in general. Not only is self importance an enemy of most individuals and their relative maturity, it is a direct enemy of team structure and play on the field. Selfish play is the extreme while being oblivious to immediate team goals - down and distance, time and circumstance, the winning play in a given situation - and not seeing things for what they are in terms of team needs are the more common artifacts. Most players are like people...they usually learn the hard way, by trial and error. With so much inexperience and so many freshman playing, this was one event that could happen at any time.  One old coach told me that a freshman, no matter how talents, would make two big mistakes for every great play he made.

The coaches are the guides and herders in these processes. They, too, can fall victim to all the perspective problems listed above. This society and our particular school doles out self importance in incredibly large chunks, with money and celebrity most only dream about, and levels of responsibility that are awesome in their scope and range. It goes without saying that they, too, can become blind, if not outright oblivious, to certain team needs themselves. So, while players may make the mistakes on the field, coaches can make larger scale mistakes, errors of concept and commission. They just don't see things for what they are. Part of their process is covering their weaknesses on the field but on some days when all those weaknesses get exposed, in totality, it becomes obvious what they thought was...wasn't even close to what was actually happening on the field and with the team. That usually means disaster.

Is this team in trouble? That is, due for more losses, which I understand many feel right now and it is a serious possibility. Is there some relief, some ability to correct the flaws. Mistakes of conception are not easy to pin down and even harder to correct...they take addition work mid-season. You just can't order up a new OL or a running game.

If the coaches claim that it is their fault, there must be some action. Mack Brown said this after the UCLA game but for this to be a true acceptance of responsibility, there has to be a resultant action. Otherwise, it is bullshit and will happen again until the required action is taken, whatever that may be. DKR noted in a recent oral history that (paraphrase) going up the ladder is fun, maintaining is hell. Right now is the hell he is talking about, the crush of expectations, the amplification of losses and the general situation, and the burden of fulfilling even greater expectations. Perhaps Mack will take this as ascending a second ladder, but in a coach's life, this is a tough time. You can't quit - that would undermine everything you have done to this point - and the next step has to be the right one, even if there are few good choices to be made. A good small baby step is better than a big one that is wrong. With OU looming, waiting for the bye week to make greater changes is a serious possibility.

If the Longhorns can develop a running game, anything reliable and moderately successful, many things will fall in place. The shelf is relatively loaded, not the best ever, but not scrubs by any means. It is the conception and the development which is the problem...and this is a long-term problem. How long...many would say since 2006. Sure, Jamaal Charles in '07 and Colt McCoy's running in '08 made it effective enough to win a slew of games. But the running game was like an old fracture that didn't heal well; one cold day it would come back to haunt you. And that it has the last few games starting with A&M in '09 when Colt's 175 yards bailed out the team. But this was never fixed and it is silly to pretend that it might be after the rhetoric of the pre-season and the results as of Saturday.

I wondered if Mack gave DKR a late-night call. I wonder what Major's concept of this offense might be like. I wonder what Mack's first thought was this morning when he awoke. We're all open to wonder at this point. Massive failure will do that and will call into question everything you ever known, although we know in the back of our minds it is never quite that bad at all. But emotion doesn't give in to rationality that easily.

Sunday is the day the coaching staff analyzes and designates the actions to fix Saturday's flaws. This late in the evening means that a lot of water has flown under the bridge. Tomorrow's regular news conference could reveal a few things but whatever the Mack and his staff figures out still must be translated to the players and then to the field. Putting together the psychology of this team comes first, then the actions to solidify that will occupy the week. This will probably be one of the most important weeks of practice for this team since the bowl break in '07, but it is a short span with a major enemy awaiting, so big changes might have to wait until the bye week.

Dallas will be spooky. Can this team be aggressively offensively? OU may be beatable this year, and the Horns must counter their aggression with aggression of their own. The defense can do that...for a while.  But the offense must score. Otherwise this team can be ravaged and the rest of the meat stripped from the bones.

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Very nicely reasoned and written, BUT ...

… I take exception to your characterization of angry fans.

Why do we call for a coach’s head? Why do we scream, yell and gnash our teeth? Because we could see it coming. Because we have seen the offensive problems for literally YEARS. Even in its best years under GD and McWhorter, the offense taken as a whole has under-performed its talent level. If we could see it, why couldn’t the head coach?

Yes, things happen. Yes, sometimes errors pile up and up until there’s no saving a particular game. But the offensive coordinator and his lack of any decent plan, preparation or QB coaching were absolutely exposed. The OL coach has been exposed in all four games to date. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last decade, you knew the weaknesses were there all along and went un-addressed.

Mack made the much-needed personnel changes to the defensive staff over the years. On offense, he’s let friendship and loyalty to one individual come before good sense and, frankly, duty. Why wouldn’t fans be rightly outraged when that decision eventually causes such a melt-down? The team has an embarrassment of riches being squandered yet again – for no good reason other than to keep two men employed.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 26, 2010 11:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Great points, all of them.

I think you’ve put it as succinctly as anyone can.

Now I’m ready to move on and focus on next week. We don’t have to push this game out of our memories – but let’s try to be constructive. Is there ANYTHING positive to focus on? Is there anything Texas IS doing correctly? What should the plan be for next week? Where are OU’s weaknesses and how CAN the Texas coaches prepare their players to expose them?

by TXinDC on Sep 26, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last year two great players made this "sick cat" offense/offence work

Both now in the NFL. Still needed bailouts from the defence at times (Neb., OU).

So what’d do we have? Mobilhoma will have 8 in the box, or more, knowing we’ll run, and if we happen to pass they’ll be man to man knowing GG will telegraph the targets. If WR is open will likely drop the ball anyway. If it’s an obvious passing down they’ll just jailbrake the line.

I say we rotate DeSean Hales more as a receiver. Him and GG play pitch catch well together for some reason and see if we can spread the field more. Start DJ Monroe at tailback and rotate with Fozzy. And where the heck is Traylon Shead?? Put his rear out there as well!

Once again go over GG’s WR tracking and stop watching the ball carrier after the handoff! He leaves no doubt who got it.

Go over fundamentals, the last part of that word is “mentals”. handoffs, ball carring, catching, when to run a punt return back, where the first down marker is, on and on.

Defense is on and OU sucks!

by ogg on Sep 27, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Love your points

Eddie. And thanks for the long post, whills, as well.

I think something huge that it comes down to is playing to win the game. Texas hardly ever does. The last time we truly did was the last three quarters of the 2008 OU game and the 2008 Mizzou game. Every other game it seems like we play just to survive. And…it…needs…to…stop.

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 26, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, great point from GRG90!

Think back to watching VY in his MNC season. They played with fire, hunger and desperation – even when far ahead. Not every game, mind you. But those comeback victories you could practically see the smoke rising from their helmets.

When VY left, the passion went with him.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 26, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I miss an aggressive offense.

The Horns also haven’t had a down field passing game for years. When you keep the reins tight, the horse can run like it normally can.

I don’t know whether this is Mack or GD but I would suspect Mack. Colt didn’t have the arm but GG does.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

Time and again I have made the point that it is somewhat unfair to roast GD and give MB a pass unless we know what MB is telling GD, what parameters GD is operating under. Mark was quoted as saying he doesn’t call any of the plays in a game, but surely he meets with Davis before the game and sets certain parameters, a certain approach to the game. If he tells Davis next time you call a “bubble screen,” or next time we throw a 3 yard pass when we need 4, you’re fired, I imagine Davis would follow that “advice.” Yes, there is much to be unhappy with on the offensive side, but it is unfair to hold the “Colonel” responsible but not the “General.”

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Sep 27, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is something I've been feeling for a couple years now,

is PASSION. The defense has seemingly always played with passion. Michael Huff, Nathan Vasher, Earl Thomas, Derrick Johnson, you name the player(s) we had it. I haven’t seen any kind of passion since that devastating loss to Tech on the road in 08. It feels like literally every game we are just so stiff, under the heavy pressure of yearly national title expectations, that we try not to lose and don’t actually play to win. And I honestly feel like this reverberates throughout the stadium. I’m no SEC apologist whatsoever, but my sister goes to South Carolina, and even though they know they’ll lose some games, their fans go in thinking they’re going to win EVERY game and scream their lungs out and I don’t feel that same way about Texas fans. I almost see a sense of entitlement against any team that isn’t TECH, OU, OSU or A&M, and it really bothers me.

by jacobb23 on Sep 27, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Playing not to lose

Good points. I was very concerned when Mack was interviewed before the game and pronounced, “Football games are lost; they are not won.” Doesn’t that translate to “playing not to lose”? When a pass or kick is headed your way and you’re saying to yourself, “don’t drop the ball; don’t drop the ball,” what often happens? You drop the ball, because that is what you visualized in your mind. One of the principles of sports psychology is “visualizing yourself being successful.” Playing not to lose results in conservative play-calling, lack of aggression, insecurity and fear.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Sep 27, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The morning after the morning after

Could we see this coming? Yes, definitely. Every team has their relative strength and weaknesses and are balancing acts. The running game has been a persistent problem without a doubt.

Serious questions there and yours (If we could see it, why couldn’t the head coach? and went un-addressed are on target for now.

That is the immediate future, tomorrow’s press conference at 11 being first up.

You want a lot of things that you may not get in the short term. I want solutions not blood.

Changes of personnel are slim to none in mid-season unless there are egregious mistakes. While you may think this game qualifies, the people who would make and approve such decisions may not be so easily swayed by a single event. Yes, the continuity you talk about is there, but that doesn’t mean that it will be that relative to the decision. That’s sorta lawyerly for my taste, but the preponderance of the small doesn’t always get a fair hearing. Besides, the blame for that could go all the way up the line, thus complicating what may seem so obvious to others.

They may play to events…the team fell apart, a one-time incident…and then beat OU. Case closed til they can find deal to deal with it. The popular hubba of right now overtakes the situation.

You wanna gnaw away, I got a bunch of squirrel scars on the knuckles of my right hand so a few more might make a set.

 
 

by whills on Sep 26, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You make good points ...

 … about changing personnel mid-season. But follow my reasoning:
1. Most of us agree that the offense has under-performed for many years. This is especially true for the OL.
2. Very few would argue that the play-calling is of quality. GD doesn’t adjust the offense to his personnel.
3. Put together those two factors. It’s unacceptable to have sub-par coaching at Texas. BUT …
4. The offense is bailed out by superior talent (e.g. VY) and/or a solid defense (e.g. first three games this season).
5. As long as the team wins 10+ games a season (thanks to superior talent and/or solid defense, not the offensive coaching), Mack refuses to make the much-needed personnel changes. And even if they win only 8-9 games, you can be sure he’ll talk about the “high expectations” for every single year being unrealistic. Which means …
6. The frustrated fan base, high-contributing Exes and concerned parties in the Tower MUST call for heads to roll whenever there is an opportunity – such as an egregious loss to a lousy team at home, where no touchdown was scored.

You know the old saying. Make hay while the sun shines. If now is not the time to call for personnel changes, then when would be the time? After the defense bails out the team, making the season record look good – so the head coach again avoids sacking his buddy?

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

My sense here is that Mack would be extremely reluctant

to make large scale changes, but it can be done. No rule against it. That goes for both coaches and players. It’s not like this offense is set in stone just because they run like it.

In the first year of the wishbone, DKR made a dramatic change in the third game. Bill Bradley had started in the first two games but they tied the first with Houston, 20-20, then lost at Tech in a flurry of turnovers. Bradley just couldn’t handle the ball well enough. So Royal went with an unknown kid named James Street…they beat OSU then came back against OU and the rest is history. Bradley played WR some then found a home as a safety.

You can change coaches assignments, get them more “assistance” or the HC can just jump in himself and set the tone. It can be done.

The real question is whether they address the short or long term. Chances are they’ll go after the short term while you – and many here – see the need for long term change.

The truth is Texas doesn’t have a formed up set offense…right now it is just a mosaic of many offenses almost haphazardly thrown together. No surprise it can fall apart.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

In all of Mack’s tenure, I’m trying to recall serious mid-season changes. I can think of two, and they weren’t large-scale. But they did have an impact:
1. Let VY be VY. GD backed off, and the team won.
2. Opening up special teams to the stud players who proved their worth. It helped with – but didn’t completely solve – special teams problems about 3 years ago.

Other than that, I can’t remember anything. So I have very little hope.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you overrate your talent level
The team has an embarrassment of riches being squandered yet again – for no good reason other than to keep two men employed.

Outside of Mike Davis and possibly Barrett Matthews (when he catches the ball), I don’t see a difference maker in your receiving corps. Malcolm Williams has the talent and potential to be, but he’s had that for years now.

Your OL as a unit and individually has major, major issues, and it really doesn’t matter what scheme they are in, the issues wouldn’t change.

At RB, you have one guy with game-breaking talent (Whitaker), one serviceable player (Newton), and then a bunch of role players (Cody Johnson). The talent level at RB doesn’t really matter, though, because your OL is so bad, they can’t help the backs.

The only real standout difference-maker you have on offense is Garrett Gilbert, and he’s going to be something special, if given time to develop, but that won’t happen immediately. Davis is bringing him along just like he did Young and McCoy and Simms (although Simms and McCoy had much, much, much better WRs surrounding them).

Where is all this talent the coaches are squandering?

by Beergut on Sep 27, 2010 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Again, dear Beergut

I think I hear a soft Baaaaaaa calling you back for more. Go, be with your sweetheart.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice rebuttal

if you can’t answer them, go for diversionary tactics

by Beergut on Sep 27, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

I see your points.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 27, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie

I loved your post above, but why are you insulting Beergut after his comments here? I don’t know if I could agree more with them.

I’ll address them by paragraphs, because this “enormous amount of talent on offense” charade needs to stop. It’s just pissing me off now.

Outside of Mike Davis and possibly Barrett Matthews (when he catches the ball), I don’t see a difference maker in your receiving corps. Malcolm Williams has the talent and potential to be, but he’s had that for years now.

I’m actually surprised you’re including Matthews. I think you’ve seen every one of our games, most likely, so either you’re trying to not get screamed at by all the the people who pimped him preseason or you actually see some ability in him because he’s so young. I’m interested to know which it is, because he’s been abysmal so far this season.

I agree Mike Davis will be one of the better receivers to ever play here, but it’s about time somebody who gets called “Black Shipley” stops dropping easy ass passes. Malcolm Williams…well…potential is only potential for so long before it becomes missed potential. The guy has been used correctly for his role in about three games over his entire career. If we actually implemented the offense we wanted to in the preseason, he’d be raining all over people in the PA game. But we can’t run, so nobody has to worry edging forward and then sprinting back to cover him.

Chiles and Kirkendoll are too slow and not physical enough to get off jams at the line if teams feel so inclined. And obviously neither are playmakers. Quise is good, but he’s still learning the position. Darius White is uber-talented, but he hardly plays. Hales is talented but doesn’t play much either. I think you make a solid point here.

Your OL as a unit and individually has major, major issues, and it really doesn’t matter what scheme they are in, the issues wouldn’t change.

So true, and I think this has been an issue since 2007. McWhorter has to go or it won’t change. We have talent here, but not much of it sees the field because of youth. In my opinion, Mack should open up the OL positions and just say, “Best five guys play, regardless of class or bleediness for the program.” Just get some people out there who don’t like OU, want to smack them in the mouth and onto their asses, and don’t mind taking some time out of their day to pick up the QB who they’ve just let be sacked for the 14th time.

At RB, you have one guy with game-breaking talent (Whitaker), one serviceable player (Newton), and then a bunch of role players (Cody Johnson). The talent level at RB doesn’t really matter, though, because your OL is so bad, they can’t help the backs.

We give you one AA on defense and you give us Christine Michael, deal? Okay, how about two AA’s? You’re right on everybody. I think Monroe needs to play just because he has the best chance of getting by the terrible blocking. Fozzy doesn’t have near the speed he used to before his injuries, but he has better vision than Newton and Johnson who just run to where the line blocked and fall down. Arguably our two best RBs are being redshirted, but that’s possibly me just being extremely optimistic (or…pessimistic?). Texas should never have the dearth of talent here that they do now. burntorangehorn would disagree with me, which I think is comical, but I think we have one of the worst RB rotations in the entire country.

The only real standout difference-maker you have on offense is Garrett Gilbert, and he’s going to be something special, if given time to develop, but that won’t happen immediately. Davis is bringing him along just like he did Young and McCoy and Simms (although Simms and McCoy had much, much, much better WRs surrounding them).

Yup, Davis and Brown hate handing the reins to a young guy, despite the numerous comments about how Gilbert grabbed them with alacrity.

There’s only so much players can do in such an inept system. But there’s only so much of a system you can create with such inconsistent players. Not sure if that inconsistency is the player’s entitlement, bad recruiting, or terrible coaching. I’d assume a little bit off everything.

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 27, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because I get tired of Beergut.

And I disagree. We have several good running backs who get no lanes. We have several good receivers who obviously are not being coached properly and effectively. We have several good special teams players who also are not being coached properly – as was so very clear on Saturday.

Also, how can we possibly describe these 4 and 5 star players as inept or un-talented when they are being given no opportunity to display their abilities – thanks to poor play-calling.

The coaches recruited specific talent. Now, it’s the coaches’ jobs to do two things: design an offense around that talent, and coach up that talent. GD’s worst quality: working with the talent he has. Instead, he designs some offense he likes and tries to shoe-horn the players in.

Which is why I disagree with Beergut. Plus, he’s an annoying aggy. Insulting Little Brother is part of the fun of being Big Brother, no?

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I understand

But in this case, I think he said what everybody else in the room is thinking but doesn’t have the balls to say. Do we really have that many five star players on offense? Fozzy was a 4*, but he’s been hurt a ton. That’s not on the coaches. Cody was a 4*, but many considered the dude a FB. Newton was a low 3* who didn’t even impress me in high school. Chiles was a five star QB, but he just doesn’t have the athleticism to be a star WR. Kirk was a lower 4*, Goodwin is a track guy, Williams was a big time 4*, but I don’t put his lack of ability to catch the ball on Kennedy. Davis and White are huge recruits, but they’re still young. We don’t have a single Rivals 5* on offense who’s playing right now at his recruited position, other than GG.

I mean, I understand where you’re coming from and it’s completely justified. Hell I agree with you in principle, it’s just I think our talent is overrated and we don’t have that many playmakers. But you’re right, looking at guys like Acho on defense, who was a 3* recruit and is now a first-round draft pick, it’s hard to not fault the offensive coaches for a poor job in developing the talent.

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 27, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

When you have a bad event, things look much worse than they actually are.

This is especially true in sports.

BG takes the most critical position possible with a ton of self-possessed hype thrown in, and it is like throwing gasoline on a fire.

This situation is much more about inexperience than talent and compound errors of commission in the game itself and no small amount of coaching judgment.

Hell, you can work a team too hard and throw in too much info before a game and get the same result. That doesn’t have a damn thing to do about talent…that’s about tired legs and thinking too much.

So the extravagant no-talent, no coaching point of view can be confronted with the continuing success of the program…you don’t get there with no talent nor poor coaching. So, I just can’t take what he says at face value and thus I feel that no real serious response is necessary. If you accept his argument, you down on his terms and there’s no comfort nor balanced reasoning there…and there’s no winning.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't think of it for the first time

When he said it in this post. I’ve been thinking that since 2007, when JC and Finley went pro early. I feel like we’ve had a talent drain since then, and it’s mostly due to recruiting being weaker over those few years. Alabama has two running backs that are a combination of our top 3 rolled into one. That’s sad…

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but there's not a damn thing we can do about it right now.

There’s no new recruits and not much experience on the bench because we have played so many at this point.

For me the story is: what is Mack going to do now?

Sure, we’d like to have the Bama backs Ingram and Richardson. They’d like to have our QB and some of our defense. Nobody has everything.

I think the last two classes have been fine, but fitting them into a team is a different jigsaw puzzle. Obviously we’ve had recruiting ‘holes’ like everyone else. DTs are the most sought after and difficult to get, OL and RB are next. And we’re just snake-bit at TE. We can cover the DT…usually we have one and are developing more. The rest drag down the offense to some degree.

My real observation is that aggression can cover a multitude of sins. You have a passive offense and you’re gonna eat shit sooner or later. Obviously a lot of it when the time comes.

NU’s offense is working because it is aggressive, it puts pressure on the opponent’s D every play. Same with OU. Tech will get back to that point. OSU’s picked up Leach’s OC and with Houston at RB can do the same thing. When A&M is ginning, they can get after it. But they all have their own self-destructive tendencies and when their key components are stopped by defenses, these come into play. That’s how we beat those opponents. So, it is no surprise when the same thing can happen to us. We showed our ass and we got spanked for it.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

disagree
We have several good running backs who get no lanes.

You have one possible difference-maker in Whitaker, who cane make something out of nothing. Newton is only as good as the offensive line makes him, which isn’t saying much. Johnson is slower than Newton, more dependent on the offensive line, and a one-dimensional player. Monroe could become a difference-maker, but he doesn’t receive enough carries, and there is also the additional questions about his ability to handle the pounding of being an every-down back.

Trayon Shread is redshirting, which makes me honestly question how good he is. Maybe he is simply needing a year to adjust to big-time college football, but usually when a supposed-stud RB redshirts, it means he isn’t good enough. The great ones play as freshmen. Considering who is ahead of Shead, that has to be a little disconcerting.

Who are these other good receivers, besides the ones I mentioned?

by Beergut on Sep 27, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I watched Matthews extensively in the Spring game

and really thought he was going to be Gilbert’s #1 target, and be a playmaker for y’all

He has that talent, and I still think he will become a star. If you remember, Jermichael Finley had a bad habit of dropping balls in his hands, too. It didn’t change the fact that Finley was a physical talent. Matthews will get there.

by Beergut on Sep 27, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised at your optimism of him

and can only hope you’re right. We desperately need someone that could give us what Blaine Irby was supposed to give us.

by goingforthecorner on Oct 1, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did the offensive coaches not learn anything from the MNC game against Bama?

Do they not remember what happened when they called the game conservatively and wanted to minimize Gilbert’s mistakes? Alabama built up a lead, Texas’ defense got tired and it wasn’t until we let Gilbert throw the ball down field that we finally started being successful and made the game competitive. Yes I know Shipley was a big part of that but Gilbert made those throws.

Here we are in 2010 and their mentality is let’s be conservative in our play-calling, let’s minimize Gilbert’s mistakes (not really working) and our defense is good enough so that we don’t need to score a lot of points. We just want to hold on to the football and run.

It’s time to let Gilbert throw. Yes, he will make mistakes along the way, but GD, you are way too much in Gilbert’s head. Remember how you were in VY’s head and you finally simplified things for him and that made him flourish? You also did it with Colt. It’s time to do that right now with Gilbert. Let him free. Take off the training wheels. That’s the only way he’s going to be good. That’s the only way we are going to compete.

There’s a lot of work that needs to be done on the whole team, but let Gilbert free.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Sep 26, 2010 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Free GG. Completely agree, Sunkist.

If we make mistakes, I’d prefer mistakes of aggression. Go long.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read something weird somewhere on these forums

that the coaches are only letting Gilbert make 2 reads before he throws? Any truth to these rumors?

Kindle 3:16

by NYHorn on Sep 27, 2010 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

With the OL as it is, GG doesn't have much time for more.

I saw some reference to this as well but don’t remember where or if it was a definitive reference.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like it, but...

The OL needs to give the play time to develop. UCLA did a masterful job of eliminating the deep threat. Without a running game you can’t successfully feint with the play-action. Without the play-action you can’t shake the safeties and get that one-on-one coverage that should favor our receivers.

Bottom line is we’re young and raw and still blinded by the glitter and the lights.

It's Mean to Wean

by Bombilla on Sep 27, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

What, no images.

We’ll probably see more zone, at least two deep, to force the run and deny the long pass. The question then is do we zone breakers and do we have the time to make the pass. The INT down the middle was under thrown but the WR was wide open.

GG may have to go Terry Bradshaw on them…put it up and let the talent bring it down.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now, I'm wondering

Does the lack of a bonafides tight-end factor into our offensive ineptness?

It's Mean to Wean

by Bombilla on Sep 27, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hell yes. There's no pressure valve for GG.

When teams go two-deep zone and cover the first and second reads tightly, that’s where you need the TEs. Barrett has yet to prove he’s equal to the job and throwing to EBS has a low percentage rate, great as a surprise but not dependable on a regular basis.

Teams are just going to sit on us until Matthews catches the ball or we find someone who can. If we go into passive (or stay, as it were), then we’re in big trouble.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not nearly as much as the OL

This OL is horrible, worse than last year’s line. We’ve basically replaced Adam Ulatoski with Britt Mitchell, apart from that it is the same inept OL. Nothing happens on offense without a hole to run through or time to set up and throw.

I think there is talent on this team- it’s young talent. The names you’re hearing on offense making plays are Whittaker, Gilbert, Mike Davis. There is zero senior leadership with talent, especially in the OL. The offense won’t progress as long as Huey, Hicks and Mitchell anchor the line. Not sure how we ever got into a position where Mitchell is the starting RT but it’s too late to expect great, or even above average, things from this OL unit. I would venture that it’s time to play some of the younger guys more in the line.

We have to face the fact that, despite us being Texas, we can’t run the ball in run-first fashion. Any success we have in the running game will be dictated by the success of the passing game. Anything

I agree with whills, Mack won’t make any changes to the staff right now except to clearly place them on notice. The actual changes will occur in December or January. And there will be changes.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need a LT to allow Mitchell to go back to RT.

If you can’t fix it, at least you can stabilize the situation.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mitchell

Is already playing RT. You’re thinking of Kyle Hix.

Sentence should read: We need a LT to allow Kyle Hix to go back to RT and a RT to allow Britt Mitchell to go back to the bench.

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 27, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ashcraft, Porter, Hopkins- even playing out of position

couldn’t be worse than Huey, Hicks and Mitchell and would give us a leg up on experience next year. I hope Westerman and Flowers are looking at this mess as an opportunity.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Sep 27, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think I’ll go left to right: Kelley, Huey, Snow, Walters, Hopkins

by GoHornsGo90 on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back to Spread

Is what we should do. I mean yes we all want a running game and yes we want this or that but the coaches have to come to grips this week that we do not have the personnel to be a running team.

We need to allow this team to do what is comfortable to them at this point. GG and most of the receivers are familiar with the spread and we need to just make that the focus of the offense.

If Mack and GD are too stubborn to change then this season will be a major debacle and it will be very ugly.

by jtdiddy on Sep 26, 2010 11:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Theydefinitely need to find a comfort zone.

Mack may not reveal much tomorrow with OU coming up so fast.

A good thing is that OU may be as mystified as we are in terms of their preparation.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

rather not

I don’t believe this team as constituted can beat either OU or Nebraska with spread attack. Perhaps GG is most comfortable throwing out of this formation, but our WRs cannot get open against press coverage and we do not have the offensive line to be able to pull out and block the WR screen (Tray Allen would certainly help here though).

Texas can beat OU this week but we need a game that resembles last year’s close defensive struggle. I’d like to see 2 WR, 2 TE (or 1 HB sets) with a ball control offense that involves TEs in the passing game, and takes shots downfield off of play-action. Maybe its too much to ask for in one week, but we all remember GD going to the 4 WR set against OU in 2008 that took McCoy-Shipley to the next level. I would just like to see this team go back to assignment football. Our 11 against your 11. Use a scheme that keeps the defense rested while you begin the process of rebuilding for next year.

by BMG on Sep 27, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

If the O goes back to the spread, Malcolm Brown de-commits faster than you can say eight-and-five.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Sep 27, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

The long term solution is a balanced offense

When you’re playing top teams you have run, stop the run, pass and stop the pass. Equal reps for both offense and defense running and passing. If we have GG throwing 40-50 times a game we’ll be seeing Case McCoy leading the offense in short order.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've said they're trying to set up a four-year offensive structure.

You’re right, that has to be the long term situation for GG and for recruits like Brown.

We don’t have the precision receivers (routes, separation and catching ability) for the short to mid spread attack, and we would be right back where we were last year, with over the top zone and hard pressure on the WRs by good teams. GG hit 30 of 45, 66.7% against UCLA. He can do whatever is necessary.

We may have to run student body sweeps and a simple pro-set and I with at least two backs to knock future opponents out of their set-up defenses. That would also set up a certain amount of possible deception (which both GD and Mack seem loathe to utilize). If the OL can’t get the job done, you got to give them help with an extra back and/or H-back. We have fullbacks and H-backs we’re not using at this point.

We’re not going to get rid of many spread elements because we know how to run them, esp. the two-minute hurry-up offense. But that shouldn’t be our bread and butter but a means of loosening up a defense, particularly when they have run personnel on the field.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody can figure out what we are trying to do on offense..

If you can’t block, you’re pretty limited on what you can do.

by cj43 on Sep 27, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have not yet

Our base offense is a trips offense, with one back in the backfield, and a TE on the line of scrimmage. Most of the offensive line has a hand in the dirt as well, and we have very narrow splits between the linemen. None of these are spread offense principles. We have shown a 5-wide formation a few times out 10 personnel (Fozzy or DJ splitting out wide as WRs) but seldomly used 4 WR sets in the first 3 games.

by BMG on Sep 27, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Killer Instinct

What the offense lacks, and what the defense has in spades, is killer instinct. The desire and the will to absolutely crush your opponent. Scheme, play calling, all that other BS doesn’t really matter with our offense because we have had a weak, fearful attitude since VY left. Few of us really knows what happens behind closed doors with the program, but it is plain to see on the field. If you want to run the ball, you have to beat the man in front of you to open a lane. You have to beat him until he is too tired to fight off your block. Wear him down, play after play. Impose your will until he his mentally dominated. You think our boys on offense have that mentality? Kenny Vaccaro does. Eddie Jones does. Orakpo had it. You don’t get it with rah rah sunshine pumping, or telling people how great they are. You get it through pushing men beyond their self-imposed limits, you toughen them up, you apply consistent discipline, and maintain constant controlled aggression. As a coach, you must lead with aggression, too. Attack the weakest player on the defense, probe for weaknesses in scheme with playcalling, and exploit them. Burn the damn book of statistics, and evaluate what you see in real time. Quoth Patton: “Hold ’em by the nose, and kick em in the ass.” Stop playing the game like it’s tween girls fun fair positive soccer.(no score and everyone gets a trophy)

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games"
". . .switzer is a cracked out bitch . . ."-osu poster

by 98horn on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Great rant, 98Horn.

Mack noted the lack of confidence. He applied it to the whole team, but that in itself is spooky. If the defense lost confidence, it was in the offense.

I have no doubt the defense will regain their aggression.

Proper offense is brutal and predatory and we have yet to see that this year.

BTW I’ve seen some really mean female soccer mid-fielders and vicious guards in basketball, so its not all sugar and spice. Most of them rodeo girls that were tougher than nails.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've known some too.

I was referring to the brand of soccer where they don’t keep score, and take a player off the field each time the other team scores a goal. It is a real thing: Fun Fair Positive Soccer. Part of the cult of self esteem.
We need this girl to coach our o-line:

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games"
". . .switzer is a cracked out bitch . . ."-osu poster

by 98horn on Sep 27, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Link didn't show up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMAtxuCpsMU

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games"
". . .switzer is a cracked out bitch . . ."-osu poster

by 98horn on Sep 27, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you're saying...

Is that we need to find a Coach Blood for an OL coach.

It's Mean to Wean

by Bombilla on Sep 27, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

As always, appreciate the long form whills

Holding ground is always harder than claiming it. And harder still when overweening loyalty begets foolish complacence.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 27, 2010 7:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Think of all the big-time stories recently

from Texas Monthly right down to the insider story last week. Jeez, they’re swimming in praise and glory. Just from the far outside view, a comeuppance was the order of the day.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Change the QB

It’s funny how bad QB’s can make an entire offense look terrible (examples: Gilbert for tu, Potts for tech). Why is your coaching staff not considering a QB change? I mean there is absolutely nothing to lose. Surely, QB Gilbert will make those same mistakes against OU, perhaps even more because of the rivalry and pressure, as he has against Alabama, Tech and UCLA. It might be a good opportunity for tu to start with a new guy and make something out of the remaining season. I just want the tu-A&M game to be exciting. With Gilbert at QB its going to be pretty one sided and you know which team will be the obvious favorite in that game.

by YUMC on Sep 27, 2010 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL

I’m reminded of a certain Heisman-Frontrunner QB’s performance last week at home against Florida International University. Who was it? Oh that’s right….

Kindle 3:16

by NYHorn on Sep 27, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Awesome. I love it when TAMers give us QB advice.

It's Mean to Wean

by Bombilla on Sep 27, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Relieved

Whills, that’s about the clearest statement I’ve read about what’s wrong with the program. I think something positive can come from self-focus — the inner strength needed to train and excel. But there is also team-focus, which is not just self-sacrifice, but the realization that you only achieve your individual goals as a part of the team. Our team — at least our offense — lacks that identity. We have let our stars carry us, and when the stars are gone we find we do not know how to win.

In a way, the loss is a big relief. Rather than obsessing over the MNC and viewing every game of the football season through that lens, I can now enjoy the bigger show. I can root against Notre Dame, because they are Notre Dame and not because of how a loss might help Texas’ rankings. I can enjoy a victory over Oklahoma as an end in itself. And another over Nebraska. And Baylor. And A&M. I can savor each victory and moan each loss more because the outcome matters then, not some day next year in a game two weeks after the season has ended.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Sep 27, 2010 8:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I appreciate the kind words, Bombilla. Good to hear from you.

I did have that experience as a dad…my daughter just said take ’em off and, like you, I could see a world of hurt coming. But no, she mastered it quickly…she knew. Sometimes you have to trust and just let them go.

The only thing you really ever teach is good judgment.

You can’t control the field or the future and you’re a fool if you think you can.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

I wrote to my dad when I first realized what being a dad meant. I said, “He (my son) thinks I’m wise, but I just have more bruises.”

It's Mean to Wean

by Bombilla on Sep 27, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Terrific post, whills

Great perspective – thanks for this.

by Infield Elephant on Sep 27, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Built to stop the Spread

not built to stop every offense? Run stoppers, Run blockers and RBs is pretty basic, WTF. Starting to look like this team couldnt beat Utah State, let alone TCU. Been awhile since the Horns were the third or fourth best team in Texas.

by sam0807 on Sep 27, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

It's not even close to that simple

A team built to beat an up-tempo OU and Tech will have significantly different defensive personnel than a team built to play get past tOSU and Penn State. We knew going into the season that UT was light on DTs because of injury and idiocy. Against a pass first team like Tech that could be hidden, but against a well coached run first team? Well…The good news is that Texas should still beat A&M

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 27, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

True - we should be the Ags

Also, it’s 10:21 and OU still sucks.

"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."

by Johngo on Sep 27, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

*beat*

Well there’s a Freudian slip if I’ve ever seen one.

"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."

by Johngo on Sep 27, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, I watched the game with my dad – an old Ag. After the third quarter he turned to me and said “now you know what it’s like…”.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 27, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch

If in the future I inadvertently imply that we’re Baylor Bears then I guess I’ll have to find a new team to follow.

"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."

by Johngo on Sep 27, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure

say what you want, but A&M can actually move the ball (on the ground and in the air) and score points

texas has yet to show that ability

by Beergut on Sep 27, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long time until Thanksgiving

but I will take the Ags noticing that UT cant stop the run. We will find out what they have on Oct 9 against Arkansas, but Id say the Ags can run as well as UCLA. Also the Baylor game became more interesting, that may be a game for a bowl bid against the Ags (scary)

by sam0807 on Sep 27, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Hell, no.

Losing to Aggy would be terrible, but could be a reality. Losing to Baylor? That would be an unforgivable sin by this coaching staff. Basketball last year was bad enough. I refuse to accept even a possibility of losing to Baylor in football. The thought of it makes my head spin and blood shoot out of my eyes.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you need to take a deep breath on 'can't stop the run'

With an offense that can’t stay on the field, then the Horn D can wear down against a big OL and a disparate time of possession. TOP was even the first half, almost 2:1 for UCLA in the second half. Two bad reads on the option really were the daggers for the D. Who did that?

The relatively light DL is hard put in those situations, with little depth at the present. However, that is an area where we can develop more depth over the season. We’re not gonna be much larger there but we should have more bodies.

Stopping the run is only a problem when the offense is unproductive for long periods.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

we haven't played okie yet

this past loss stunk, but i’m still pumped for this weekend. i hate ou. they’ve won games by less than a TD three times in a row. i still like our defense, and if we can get a special teams play and some turnovers, we can win this game. and it’s hard for me to bury a coaching staff that got us in the top 3 the last couple of years. at times like this, we seem to remember all the bad things from yesteryear and forget how successful we truly are. even great programs struggle at times. at least we’re not aTm.

"you can destroy a man, but you cannot defeat him." - e.h.

by drankthewine on Sep 27, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I almost have a 90s feeling about Dallas.

Back then the question was ‘are they going to show up?’

You just never knew what you had coming in…sometimes good, sometimes not.

I suspect OU will correct many of their problems, but like us, much of it will be superficial make-up.

They will came out like a bat out-of-hell-aggressive point-a-minute offense. The defense will pop them in the mouth, but the offense has to do that as well…obviously we don’t want to be playing catch-up or we’ll be covered in red.

by whills on Sep 27, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

As bad as we looked Saturday

OU didn’t look a whole lot better. Game on.

"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal

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