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The Establishment vs. The Plucky Underdog Second Half Thread

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Wait, which is which?

Boise has won 2 BCS games in the last 4 years…

by 40AS on Sep 6, 2010 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Boise won more BCS games in the 2000s...

…than Michigan, UCLA, Washington, FSU, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Wisconsin combined.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

UCLA doesn't belong in that group

when was the last time they were considered a football power?

by Beergut on Sep 6, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Entertaining game now

I was worried it’d get dull for a while there.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

anyone else think it looked like Niumatalolo was going to bite that ref?

by Beergut on Sep 6, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

How crazy is it

considering all that’s happened, that VT could actually take the lead here?

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, they gave themselves a pretty little hole to dig themselves out of

But I guess the lesson is, if you’re going to make mistakes… do them in the first 5 minutes of the game.

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Kellen Moore actually smaller than Nkwopara?

He may be carried off by a condor before the game is over

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

He does look tiny

"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton

by CoachEtch on Sep 6, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not an x's and o's guy

it just seems to me like Boise’s defense is a bunch of crazy maniacs. Like they are disturbed in some way. Makes for a scary looking bunch.

maybe should’ve posted this in the first half….looking less like a bunch of crazy maniacs as the game goes on

by longhorn_dan on Sep 6, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Adrenalin is a powerful drug.

But what goes way up must come down.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that was unexpected

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

unexpected after that abortion of a 1st quarter

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

and on cue...

Iamjackburton becomes a profit

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

1. Become a profit
2. ???
3. Prophet!

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I apologize

for the error in wrong word choice.

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

not making fun

just seizing the opportunity

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

didn't take it that way

I would of done the same. Somebody has to keep me on my toes

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now Boise has to play nearly flawless football.

This is the real pressure of playing a good team and a sturdy defense, even if this isn’t VT’s best.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I know this is late

But, can we get tape of Boise State’s first TD sent to Greg Davis? Please?

.

by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

holy shit

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I think I came into this game with expectations too high

It is, after all, the first game for both teams. High energy but often sloppy. Now we have a blocked PAT.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait a minute

Does Jamall Charles play for Boise now? Sure looked like it there.

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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

He was decently fast

But those V-tech guys would have been so far behind JC that he would have been by himself on the camera.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you're right

This V-Tech defense would not be confused with the land thieves of a few years ago, at least in the speed department.

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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see Boise win...

…and end up in another BCS bowl versus TCU again lol. Oh come on, you ust know the voters are gonna shank them at year’s end anyway. All the “underdog” stuff is fun for now, but when faced with shutting out a 1-loss SEC/Big 12 team, they’ll always go establishment.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

invisible hurdles

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Tell you the truth

Neither secondary has looked good.

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1000

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kid has no touch.

He needs to get used to being a receiver for the pros ala Pat White. Or do the Wildcat thing.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

NICE Touch

also, how did they not find a better spot to put the camera????

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 9:34 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean

you don’t think putting the camera behind the fans is a good idea? I thought they were trying to get the ambience of a local HS broadcast.

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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

whoa

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

apparently

the boise corner hasn’t taken Revis’s advice about putting your man on an island

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

or Australia

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tyrod Taylor hurt

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

uh oh

somebody came up lame. Smart move Beamer

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Crap

Now I’ll be lucky to push this thing lol.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

TCU did *not* look dominant against Or. St.

That wasn’t a statement game unless Oregon State wins the PAC 10

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed.

not sure why people have made so much out of that one yet

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love TCU

Always take over on them in the 1st half. Like Boise they have absolutely no mercy against their JUCO competition lol.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where you goin?

Nowhere!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't Hamburger do the Texas-Nebraska Big 12 champ game last year?

I recall the announcer continually saying “BCS Implosion” over and over last year at the prospect of Nebraska beating TExas.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes he did

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somewhere between

“Folks” and “Roommates”, I stopped listening

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're tellin me

as long as lou holtz stays out, i’m ok

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd much rather have Lou

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's right

I went there

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I go to a Catholic school

Heard it all, will say it all, will take it anywhere.

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm . . . I married a Catholic school grad as well

So I know of what you speak.

What?!?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

of course now I’m going to have Musberger narrating horrible plays in my dreams too

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

he also called LSU v UNC saturday

wife is an LSU grad, musburger gave LSU the “Texas” treatment. Needless to say Musburger is on everyone’s sh&# list in my house now

by longhorn_dan on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL at Brent Musberger

can you make any more obvious who you’re pulling for? Just listen to his tone of voice when calling the last Boise St. TD and the last two VT TDs.

Feel sorry for the Boise kid who ran into the kicker. If VT can hang on, that play will live in infamy all season for Boise fans.

by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I think he's secretly a playoff guy

so he pulls for chaos as much as possible. Of course that is his job.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most voters in the polls are in general underdog homers

But like I said, that’ll only go so far until their alma mater is up for a BCS bowl berth against a Boise or TCU, and just look at them go right back to the establishment. Right now, it’s easy to do the underdog feel good dance.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

WTF? Is VT playing prevent defense or something all of a sudden?

Little Kellen Moore is running free back there…

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice Suh commercial

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Nor are the blue

adjust your TV…they’re green.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never seen that commercial huh?

lol

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

End of the 3rd quarter

a 1 point game. It’s comin’ down to the final quarter.
Man, I love me some football announcin’. Nothing but astute observations.

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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Moore overthrew that one

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Waaaaaaa!

Beamer Ball Alert!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope. They didn't even try.

See? They’re playing it safe now, playing not to lose or make mistakes, which as it turns out, WORKED lol.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

both QBs have been overthrowing a lot lately

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

bwahaha

messy special teams karma action

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

are the goalposts cursed?

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

As an aside . . .

. . . a game thread without having to engage in texasfanskyisfallingism makes for a much more enjoyable time!

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Word.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see VT getting another TD

And boise eventually getting a TD and needing a 2-point conversion to tie. It’s been that kind of a week.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I will be unhappy with Peterson

If we don’t see the hook and ladder or statue of liberty.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't know?

when trying to become a legit power, you become more traditional and less “gimmicky”.

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, if we end up playing Boise

push them to the left hash before any FG attempts!

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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

remember

when Musberger said that Boise looked like they were already in midseason form. Yeah me too, good call.

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Kid's got no touch at all.

Beamer should just give up the pass and go full triple option with his two RB monsters.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you serious?

Idaho??? I’d rather go to Alabama or one of those redneck SEC countries.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

why??

Idaho is supposed to be beautiful, and there is very little redeeming in Alabama/redneck SEC.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

But southern Idaho . . .

 . . . the I-84 drive across the bottom of the state, is miserable.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

that area of Eastern Oregon, Southern Idaho and Northern Nevada

is so intriguing to me. 1000 square miles of nothing, right in the middle of the US.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's quite barren, brown and dusty

But on the flip side, I dream about driving US-50 all the way across Nevada.

And that’s a dream not narrated by Musburger.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a Holtz dream, isn't it

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take your word for it

Been to Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana and all were gorgeous.

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course it was the Rockies, Tetons and Yellowstone

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brent Musberger for the Idaho/Coeur d'Alene tourist board

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Have we heard any Tyrod Taylor = VY talk yet?

I just got in from work.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Thankfully not

Since he’s V-tech guy, you’ll likely hear Vick’s name first, which would also be grossly inaccurate.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

It was Houdini, not VY. VY > Houdini

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

His name is Boykin

not Boinkin’

Thought I’d fix that for anyone else who misheard

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I prefer Boinkin

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

28 yards for Williams. Wow.

Boise is really doing a number on him.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

wow those were some crazy gymnastics

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions  

He has promise in the booth.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every play is reviewed isnt it

Or is that just in NFL?

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Danke Shoen

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kid's a scrambler.

He should work on that for the whole year to get drafted as a wide receiver for a Wildcat team and give up this pretention of being a QB.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

What if the ball touches the ground?

Makes no difference? Is it just knees/elbows/back? Ass?

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 9:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Ball counts too.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hamburger sounds totally bummed out.

Herbie should give him a kiss to cheer him up.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Quit it

You’re making me want hamburgers

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Just realized that

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

STOP IT!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You sir

Are Fired!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

is that sad? This is what I do during class.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

favorites list

on cheezburger.com

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

dammit

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

what

you’re not jealous of this?

or this?

I don’t blame you. Midwestern food generally sucks.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Polish sausage and corn. Very Polish city I live in.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just trying to think of stereotypically midwestern hearty foods

memories of spending time in my friend’s grandfather’s wood-paneled basement, eating hunters stews and whatnot.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually never tried that one

I’m an amateur chef so I basically just brought my Texas food here. Brisket, Tex-Mex, chili, etc. all served here weekly.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

even better:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I forgot I got VT for my BON Pick'em!

I think they’re even what, 3 points dog, too, right?

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Man

These Boise DB’s are not very strong.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

they

need to get to Dick’s so they can get all the nike gear that will help them?

by Houstonhorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

"BCS Buster"

I’ll take words I loved 6 years ago but loathe now, for 500 Alex.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Man imagine how much beating Boise would have to deliver

For the rest of the year to their lowly WAC foes if they lose this one? They’ll probably feel like they need to win by 100 every game or such.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Well I suppose it's irrelevant

Boise would still think they need to beat every WAC’er by 50 to continue making their case given the junk schedule they have after this one and OSU later.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, all they have to do is score 60 points a game for the last 6 games of the season

and this loss will be long forgotten, the comps and Coaches got stoopsie in that way

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

They'll do that win or lose

lol. It’s the WAC. Boise gets 30 points automatically in the first quarter just for showing up.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potential landmines on the VT sked this year?

Just thinking, depending on how their season turns out, even if Boise wins, as close as this one’s been, Va Tech is going to have a large effect on popular opinion

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

No such thing.

When Nevada is your biggest “foe” left, it ain’t much of a sked past OSU.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so conflicted about this game

On one hand, I want Boise State to bust up VT so they ruffle BCS feathers again, perhaps even with a championship appearance. On the other hand, a loss here would probably put a pretty serious dent in Moore’s quest to break Colt’s wins record.

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I hadn't thought of that

Another reason to root against Boise

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

IDK

I dont think it possible for him to not break the record, unless he leaves after this year, as disappointing as it may be

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not an NFL prospect

So injuries or a serious dropoff in winning percentage are the only ways.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did neglect the possiblity

of him getting carried off by a northwestern bird of prey

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about a mid-atlantic one?

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think 3D sports is going to be what sells those televisions

Go watch the demos in 3D, and the sports look like you’re in the stadium.

It’s amazing.

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait till jerry installs one of those in his stadium

IT’S EVEN BETTER THAN BEING THERE… EVEN THOUGH YOU’RE THERE

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

They tried that last year in the Chargers game.

It didn’t go over so well.

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by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I paid a few grand to get my eyes laser'ed

I ain’t wearin’ no dang 3D glasses to watch a movie or my “stories”.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

they are pretty cool

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the tech has a long way to go before I'll even consider buying a 3d tv

I almost never watch TV without also doing one or more other things. For example, there’s no way in hell I’m watching a football game, then pulling off those ridiculous goggles so I can read my computer or fold my laundry every few seconds. Plus, what do you do when you have friends over to watch a game? Keep four or five extra sets of $200-300 goggles on hand?

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

the cost thing is why we didn't end up getting it

even though the bf is a huge av/home theater aficionado

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

LT hold much?

No flag, must be Big 12 refs.

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by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

As much as I disagree with the playcalling right now with 4 minutes left

Williams is a guy I would give it too. 50 % of the time, it works, everytime.

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by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

nice

not the dagger, but close

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Game's over, kids

Stick a fork in ’em

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

hamburger change of heart?

actually thinking that VT might be a BCS caliber team?

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm telling you, Beamer needs to bust some heads

Those RBs have no idea how to hold the ball. Sheesh.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

oooh thank you HH

for giving me an opportunity to use my favorite one…

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um.....

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought you'd like that

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Waiting...

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not over. VT about to give the ball back

and we’ve all seen Boise driving in the final 2 minutes

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um

I don’t know about that. You want to stay in bounds now but you still want to get positive yards.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Two minutes is a lifetime for Boise

It’s gonna be tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Except that game had 2 good teams playing

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

one was actually good and one just made the plays in the end

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moore gets the ball back with 2 minutes?

Plenty of time.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Block in El Backo

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

apparently not

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

BITB

special teams once again fucking up the PG

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Yates!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh my...

Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.

by zamm on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I forget

how did that one work out for us?

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

VT imploding

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by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

he stepped out 3 yards before, then RAN back in bounds….and got hit.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

stupidest call ever

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions  

DAMN!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

kellen moore for heisman!!!!!!

seriouslyyyyyyy

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Not Case Keenum!?!?!?!?!

WHA?!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time for the Tyrod Taylor Show

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah good point

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

in fact

the entire state of Idaho has been better than the entire state of Texas since the beginning of time

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember the Potato!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow really?

that makes so much sense

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it's Labor Day, so you may still be drunk

But…hush, child. Grown folks be talking.

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're just trying to piss off the entire board, aren't you?

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You never cease to amaze me

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by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

True that

If Texas was playing I wouldn’t be having NEARLY this much fun lol.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Just plain awesome. I mean, if Moore’s going to beat Colt’s record anyway, I have absolutely no reason not to want this to happen. Texas can defend the establishment, but watching these southeastern teams go down to have-nots is worth the price of admission.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I know I should be cheering for VT

but I just can’t. I’ve always hated VT. And I like Boise. GO BRONCOS!

by longhorn_dan on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

why should you be cheering for VT?

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

If nothing else

it shuts up hamberger for a little bit

by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eh, maybe if they're competing for at-large BCS bids

But I don’t think that’s reason enough to root against the little guy in week one.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The little guy?

They’re ranked pretty high for being the little guy.

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at their budget, facilities, etc.

They’re most definitely the little guy, when compared to just about any “BCS” team, especially a major program like VT. They’re not Rice, but they’re a lot closer to Rice in terms of resources and tradition than they are to even Texas Tech or Wisconsin.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luckily

Boise’s DB’s are horrid too

by notsofst on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Have a bet for VT, Know a VT win is better for us.

But I can’t stop myself rooting for Boise! why?

In Mack Brown We Trust!

by Cyrus on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Officials

putting their mark all over this one. Sad.

by rubber_soul on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks for that mental image

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, it could've been called OPI

Although DPI might’ve been legitimate. I do miss DVR.

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahahahahhah go boise!!

told yall they would win,…. buncha haters on here

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Bwahahahahahahah!

Ur rite, haytaz! Lolz!

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I applaud you

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow, a double shot

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

What did BSU do to make you dislike them? I consider Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, and many others far easier to loathe than Boise State.

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

but notre dame is teh awesomm!!!!

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those teams earned their positions

in the college football world with more than a century of devoting training, funding and discipline to this game. It irks me that people vilify the “establishment” as if they haven’t put a lot of effort into becoming the establishment.

If Boise raises its profile, receives an invite to a major conference, and eventually gets a place at the table, then fine, They will have been properly indoctrinated. But preparing all of your offseason for one game, then resting for the entire regular season so they’re fresh for the title game, taking advantage of the Big Boy’s difficult schedules, in which they get banged up and depleted and emotionally worn down (an endurance they’ve earned over the long-haul of college football history) makes Boise the villain here.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

So . . .
receives an invite to a major conference

if that never happens (and you know it won’t for a long time), Boise is just simply SOL?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

How did Virginia Tech earn it?

And does the fact that Boise State is in an area of the country that developed later than the rest of those schools mean that they should be forever shut out of any kind of mobility? Do you feel that a caste system is how it should always be for college sports?

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not at all

But creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences (ie: major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles) is bad for the betterment of college football.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHAT?
But creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences (ie: major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles) is bad for the betterment of college football.

How is Boise State “creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences”? How is Boise State causing “major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles”? Neither is happening. If you are simply not wanting a non-BCS+ND team to make it to the BCS championship game, that’s perhaps a different discussion, but what the heck do you have against Boise State? And even if that were the discussion, how would the first non-BCS+ND team to make it to the BCS championship in the entire history of the BCS/coalition system cause a complete paradigm shift, which seems to be what you’re implying?

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by burntorangehorn on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's interesting that Boise threw for 10 yards at a stretch

While VT decided to go for it all on every play LOL. BAD coaching there, kids.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

A+, sir

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

yall just dont get it???

boise beats badass teams year in and year out and yall still doubt…. some of yall need to watch more football

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude, who cares

Boise’s not going to MNC no matter what. They won’t get voted in over a Big 12 or SEC team. Never gonna happen.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

New Mexico State, natch

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No they don't.

They do not beat Texas, they do not beat Florida, they do not beat USC, they do not beat Alabama, they do not beat Ohio State….etc.

They beat Idaho, New Mexico State, TCU, Cal State Fullerton…etc. They are a good team, but they do not beat “badass” teams like you say.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

people like you

make me not root for them anymore!

In Mack Brown We Trust!

by Cyrus on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

"taking dead aim"

Please send royalty check to:

Mack Brown
Head Coach
The University of Texas at Austin

by Lincoln on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought the same.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loyal Forever

Correct. (Mack was just the one who used it in the same BCS context as Musburger)

by Lincoln on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go BEAVS

would like to see some TX players take out these “courageous youngsters” better anyway

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm on a roll tonight

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah crap

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tease

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame OU.

They started this whole thing with their world-sized choke job.

by Kool Hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I never saw it like that.

Boise State had an opportunity and took it. They executed and out-trick played Stoops, the old trickster himself.

Choking is so 20th Century.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It always revolves around OU hate

I’m loving it.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fresno State, Oregon State, and several others will have their crack at BSU

But it’s not a rough schedule remaining.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Head would explode

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

boise... they are better... much better

they beat up on tcu, ou, va tech, etc etc and yall still dont give em props… jealous??

they are a much better team than us right now and i would definately put my life savings on them if they played against us

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

they only thing that needs deporting is ur football knowledge

thinkuing va tech would win??? hahahahhahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahhahahahaah

oh mercy

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh huh

You were the guy agreeing that you would need to eat crow just a while ago. And now you’re the genius who absolutely knew Boise would win.

Funny guy, you are.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Boise would probably beat us if we played them in our first game

they already have way more experience and chemistry. At the end of the season though, I’d give Texas the edge due to a superior defense and speed.

by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison Smith

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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Winner!

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Happy for Boise State. Not like these guys have showed up out of nowhere. If this is they’re year, so be it. Lord knows the deck is stacked against ’em otherwise.

Great game. What a way to cap a great opening weekend…

You ain't hurt...

by Peter Bean on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I wish Boise had scored without those two bad calls

They still could have, definitely, but those calls kind of stole a little luster from the end.

by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

definitely

i hate it when refs ruin a magical ending

by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Night all

off for some Musberger and Holtz-fueled dreams

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Call it what it is

At the end of the day, a middle-to-upper tier ACC team spotted them 17 points, and they still had to get a comeback that VT gift-wrapped for them at the end. These are not world-beaters. Give me a break.

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

because we gave up a shitload of sacks against Rice.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly, and our running game was the worst against an opening opponent in 8 years...

our o line got owned, i actually watched the game with my burnt orange glasses off

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just call it like a see it and am one of the people here who sees the negative things we need to work on

instead of the positive happy rainbow thoughts that our running game will actually be worth a damn this year… it aint. we will lose 3 games, jeesh, get used to it

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The classic “I’m a realist…. WE SUXXORZ!!!” argument

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 6, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic.

We didn’t give up any, and only had 2 rushes for negative yards. We played vanilla, and I’m okay with that.

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or . . .

 . . . Boise State came from behind, on the road*, against a top-ten team in the last two minutes to win.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's be honest here . . .

. . . if, say, a third-ranked USC or, dare I say, Texas, had just done what Boise State just did, very few people would be dismissing VT as a mere third-place-to-be team in the ACC and would instead be focusing on what I pointed out.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 end thread

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"

by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just mean I saw a very sloppy team in VT with a boatload of issues to work out

they looked sloppy regardless of opponent. And surprisingly questionably coached.

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're point is certainly valid . . .

. . . I’m just pointing out that these facts are much more likely to be pointed out when BSU is the victor as opposed to a traditional power.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's also this

BSU had 21 or 22 players returning, were a veteran team with a ton of experience. With that experienced an offense, their trademark, ou’d expect them to be able to drive well at the end of the game.

So, really VT should have gone for more points and not left the game to be decided at the end. That’s the key strategic mistake.

BSU is going to have a much lesser chance to prove how good they are…sure, their experience served them well in the beginning of the season…but people catch up at the end.

The question is how long can they live off this win?

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

looking at it now, their sked is doing them fewer favors than I originally thought

After week 3, they will mostly drop off the national radar for conference play. You always hear, if you’re going to lose, lose early, people will forget about it… perhaps the converse rule applies to early (only marquee) wins

by drbadass on Sep 6, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If FSU beats OU and then VT beats FSU and Miami, they're back.

They have some routes to get back, not that I care particularly either way.

BSU will get some attention from winning and being in the top 10, but they don’t have much else to claim the limelight. We, as fans, are easily bored and notoriously fickle. So there’s a whole second game for them that doesn’t even concern football per se.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the media will keep them in the game

Back to the season-long narrative theme I’ve discussed. I think they’ll be in the spotlight no matter which directional tech they’re beating up in late October

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, they'll get some but it can be stolen.

They have celebrity capital but no real place to spend it.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Your point"

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think I would

They showed little, a whiner quarterback, terrible special teams (go up in the stands and find a kicker) and have a killer conference slate.

I would say that Texas/USC escaped and should be damn glad they get to keep their ranking. Boise escaped and should be damn glad they get to keep their ranking

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Dallas Cowboys should learn from BSU

and simply play in the SEC and still go to the Super Bowl.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Play of the game

What if VT hadn’t thrown an incompletion on 3rd down with two minute sto go and no BSU TOs remaining?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Ugh

I feel a contentious, argumentative season developing here. I apologize in advance for any enemies I make over the next few months

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's what I suggest

Since we’re going to clearly be on different sides of this argument.

What can we agree on?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

+infinity

Although I have to say Sonic is pretty damn good too. Every time I go, there’s a new menu item, and it’s always awesome. Is there anything Sonic can’t do well?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreement

(1) Boise State is a good team. Undefined as to whether Top Two/Five/Ten/Whatever, but a good team.

(2) Boise State is in a weak conference.

(3) Boise State would have a much more difficult time running the table in a BCS conference. Even the Big East. (But we can’t say for sure whether they would or would not.)

(4) Style points will be infinitely much more important for BSU in its conference games than they will be for traditional powers.

Anything else before we move to areas of disagreement?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

5) We need a playoff system

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 6, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, not everyone will agree on that

I’ll speak for BH on that one

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I doubt everybody will agree on the first 4

some stupidity is inevitable

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Sep 6, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I said earlier, and I’ll stick to it, Boise belongs in the similar orbit to Georgia and Oregon year in and year out.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a pretty big fan of

Belgian beer
German philosophy
Russian cinema
American Photography
Spanish architecture
winter clothing
mountain ranges
and proper grammar..

Any of those score points with you?

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

Post soviet or soviet era?

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soviet era gave us some good directors from peripheral regions

that have since gained independence and thus probably have a harder time funding films, but contemporary Russian films are still pretty good. Russian directors seem, on aggregate, to have a much more sophisticated sense of light and space than directors from other cultures.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll call it a point of agreement

Though at this point my Russian is poor enough I’m doomed to be staring at subtitles too often to enjoy they delicious foreboding they have perfected. Soviet era tends to be to self-conscious (understandably) for my tastes.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine attempted to teach me Russian last year

for the sole purpose of bypassing the horrific subtitles in Russian films. Got the alphabet and some vocabulary and then he moved to DC.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found the rules to be pretty straight-forward

but I ceased learning before getting into the really advanced grammar. I need to pick that up again.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went with self-taught Portuguese a few years back . . .

. . . in advance of spending time in Brazil. For some reason, I was able to teach myself a language better than I was able to pick one up when taught by a professional in college or high school.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's unfortuante. If you want to get back into it

I suggest these as a decent and free method.

Thus far Korean films are my record holder for worst subtitling, though I will give points for hilarity.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I should have taken it at UT, but went for German instead (some delusions I had of reading Wittgenstein’s original texts).

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, I had similar delusions with Russian

Only to realize that I would graduate a long time before I reached anything approaching fluency. Still, great way to spend some time.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly early

Clarence White, Paul Strand, Tina Modotti (born in Italy, but still), Harry Callahan, and Ray Metzker are probably my favorites.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woo-hoo!

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

I have multiple, actually, depending on what I’m pretending to be at any particular moment. First love is architectural photography, but trying to pay the bills right now with baby/family photography. It’s amazing how having your own baby instantly gets you networked in the community of those who need such images.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wound up doing studio type advertising for a couple of years.

Then had a business that did a lot of portraiture and restoration of old photos, lot of weddings and retreats. i could do it well enough but really boring, but when your married and have young kids, you gotta do what you gotta do.

The Houston magazines – Houston Homes and a few more – were great sources of work for architecture and interior photographs…high tech, great equipment, but you could make a mint. I didn’t do that at all but a friend I knew did. If you got the set up, it’s worth a look. If you work with kids for long, you gotta have the patience of Job. Dogs are worse.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dog photography seems to be the new trend

Apparently its very lucrative.

This discussion is making me nostalgic for the smell of fixer.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll shoot dogs too

You pay me, I’ll shoot it.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have ranchers like that

you don’t even have to pay them.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see the need in this country for another WPA photo examination of life

for another WPA photo examination of life as we know it.

I do history, run a history museum…the mundane is more important than we know.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which museum?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Falls on the Colorado Museum.

A small and relatively new local history museum…we created it in 1998, got a venue in 2004…and soon to move to a historic granite building constructed in 1891. Our website is not complete but what there is here.

Been going to Mid-American Arts Alliance workshops; did a year long program for boards and directors for national accreditation as a board…good for grants. Will start another if they get funding…we’re grouped with other small museums, although many are much older, like the French Legation where we had the last workshop.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll be sure to come by when I'm in the neighborhood ;)

I wonder how much impact such studies can have today (the WPA project, I mean). Photojournalism was borne of a “prove it with pictures” mentality, all the way from the days of Jacob Riis. But people are not only desensitized by images these days, they no longer trust them.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The mass media and digital world create that distrust.

It is well earned; don’t trust any of it. Maybe it should be straight film work in shooting with contact prints or minimum blow-ups with frame edges revealed.

I still have a negative carrier filed a bit wider than a 35 neg so I could reveal that ‘artist integrity’ of the totally conceived and rendered image. It was a conceit back in the day but a certain validity of authenticity. But even negs can be manipulated today better than Jerry Uelsmann could even do back in the day (but without the charm and surprise).

by whills on Sep 7, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one type of photography which I will never do...

…is wedding photography.

I don’t want to wear a tux while I work.

Most wedding photographers seem annoying.

Most importantly, I don’t want to be fired on the spot because I’m checking my phone for football scores while the ceremony is going on.

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the hardest one, really...you can't screw up someone's wedding.

They’ll remember you for a long, long time…or not if they get divorced. Do second time around weddings…they don’t care near as much, few mothers (who do get crazy and obsessive) and most just want to get to the party reception.

Good money and a lot of fun.

by whills on Sep 7, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've known a couple of wedding photographers

One gave it up a few years ago, but he says he still wakes up from nightmares about showing up late to a wedding.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

White and Strand are great, Callahan I really enjoy.

Modotti I can recall off hand, but like Giacomelli. Just looked at Metzker, like them at first look. II feel there is a kinship to George Krause, a Philadelphia photographer that taught at UH, but a different scale. I learned to print in Krause’s dark room, which another friend and I had remodeled for him…via one of his grad students.

Love the classics, but also like Chinese and Japanese photos as well. Like the women photographers, Gay Block, their movement from the beginning from Lange in WPA and Imogene Cunningham.

I started after college, self taught, found a mentor in Toni Cronin in Houston (his collection is at HMOA.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not much the last couple of years.

I write and photograph, but seldom at the same time. For what I do, it is immersive. I don’t do it if I don’t have the time.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite photo is by EJ Bellocq

THe book cover here.

I know someone who owns one of the vintage prints. One of the most esoteric photos I’ve even seen.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of Metzker's more notable work doesn't seem to be online

He’s a bit of an extension of Harry Callahan, shooting in Chicago, shooting high contrast, chiaroscuro images and photo-collage, but about 10 years after Callahan. He sort of took what was a very widely cast experimental net for Callahan and honed into a more specific style.

That’s incredible that you learned under Krause.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Krause wasn't really my mentor

but because we became friends, I was able to learn a lot. He change my sense of scale…he shot .35 and printed small…his whole discipline was amazing and it made me realize that if I was going to do it, you have to absolutely commit to it.

I didn’t realize til later his hypercriticism of prints but it is absolutely necessary if you’re going to make fine prints. You must find what and why you are shooting and how your images reflect that…and you.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best discourse of the whole open thread, imo. nt

Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

You really have access to seeing a lot of great prints if you're in NYC.

I don’t do that much now and miss it…so many are like old friends. I need to go to HRC and fulfill my needs real soon. Love Julie Margaret Cameron and they have a couple, don’t show them much.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best bet in New York are the galleries

The ICP and MOMA (who seem to have the market for photography in New York cornered) have pretty mediocre curation for these things.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any SoCal recommendations

You have connections to this area as well too, right?

Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!

by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct. I grew up in Santa Barbara

but aside from the Brooks Institute, I know very little about the West Coast photo scene. I haven’t really lived there since I was about 16.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never been to NYC and seldom go to Houston any more.

I began there, was a member of the Houston Center for Photography, which had people like Krause, Manual and others in a tight community, so I got some taste of that consensus and made me understand how good you really must be to be a real success in that field at that time. But the times were changing in the mid 70s and photography was about to make several transitions.

by whills on Sep 6, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

See, there is some common ground.

I’d never talked to HH about photography…just didn’t have the time. I’m doing a second book of local historic photos and when I finish that, I’m gonna shoot more. I do carry a camera around in my vehicle…you get to be like a doctor and his bag in that regard. I just don’t hunt so much. I do natural light most of the time, seldom do people at all.

Don’t have a site but I really need one.

by whills on Sep 7, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Been meaning to buy a 645

and start shooting again. I was a darkroom nerd in college, and spent a lot of time at the HRC as well. Something about rendering someone’s image in silver appealed to me immensely. Later, the philosophy behind the image took grip and I’ve been a bit of a photo-theorist ever since.

by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

The world of images balanced me

That’s been the greatest value. The world of words is loud, a cacophony in so many ways, always some approximation of something via the nature of language. The world of images is cool, quiet, singular.and a blend of feelings and vision…like poetry, what it feels like is important; the depth of that feeling and the emotions it generates is a different plane than literature (to me, anyway), although there are relative valuations that approximate the same thing.

When I first discovered that images could bypass consciousness instantly, I immediately realized the power that they could get to you before you know you’ve been gotten (in Texas phrasing). It’s true of other visual arts as well, but photos can be so overwhelming in that respect.

I was so lucky that my real mentor was a gallery owner and via his business, I got to see many of the great photos of the world directly…just seeing and feeling those are an education in and of itself. One of my early favorites that maintained over time is Bill Brandt…I don’t even know why I loved his work, but there is some affinity somewhere that made a connection and my normal consciousness is merely an observer in that process.

Aside from thought, images were one of the earliest things we created as humans. They may even have predated thought (and language) for all we know, thus the intuitive and feeling connection.

by whills on Sep 7, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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