The Establishment vs. The Plucky Underdog Second Half Thread
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Boise won more BCS games in the 2000s...
…than Michigan, UCLA, Washington, FSU, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Wisconsin combined.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
we don't do BCS bowl games
they’re on television
television is anathema to Bill Byrne
the cathode ray tubes make his skin burn
Entertaining game now
I was worried it’d get dull for a while there.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 8:51 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, they gave themselves a pretty little hole to dig themselves out of
But I guess the lesson is, if you’re going to make mistakes… do them in the first 5 minutes of the game.
Is Kellen Moore actually smaller than Nkwopara?
He may be carried off by a condor before the game is over
proud to swim home
He does look tiny
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
I liked that playcall
But bad hold and a whoops from the RB.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:11 PM CDT reply actions
Haha, what in the world
Now the breaks are going to V-tech.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:13 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not an x's and o's guy
it just seems to me like Boise’s defense is a bunch of crazy maniacs. Like they are disturbed in some way. Makes for a scary looking bunch.
maybe should’ve posted this in the first half….looking less like a bunch of crazy maniacs as the game goes on
Adrenalin is a powerful drug.
But what goes way up must come down.
The game is played for 60 minutes...
not 15. Someone should let BSU know.
It Ain't Easy, But It's Worth It.
I thought it was a smurf
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
isn't it? lol
I thought it was.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe it should be changed to
Spirit Creature
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
well that was unexpected
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unexpected after that abortion of a 1st quarter
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When they said Boise was head and shoulders over everyone
they were talking about KM.
Nice series for V tech
Maybe our run game can look like that? :)
In any case, Boise State has to put together a sustained drive. Their defense can’t stand up to this kind of beating.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
In spurts
And in my hopes and dreams too.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
and on cue...
Iamjackburton becomes a profit
1. Become a profit
2. ???
3. Prophet!
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I apologize
for the error in wrong word choice.
not making fun
just seizing the opportunity
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didn't take it that way
I would of done the same. Somebody has to keep me on my toes
ballroom dancing class was a close second
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Now Boise has to play nearly flawless football.
This is the real pressure of playing a good team and a sturdy defense, even if this isn’t VT’s best.
I know this is late
But, can we get tape of Boise State’s first TD sent to Greg Davis? Please?
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:24 PM CDT reply actions
holy shit
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I think I came into this game with expectations too high
It is, after all, the first game for both teams. High energy but often sloppy. Now we have a blocked PAT.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
Smurf juice
Don’t knock it!
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait a minute
Does Jamall Charles play for Boise now? Sure looked like it there.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
He was decently fast
But those V-tech guys would have been so far behind JC that he would have been by himself on the camera.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're right
This V-Tech defense would not be confused with the land thieves of a few years ago, at least in the speed department.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Boise win...
…and end up in another BCS bowl versus TCU again lol. Oh come on, you ust know the voters are gonna shank them at year’s end anyway. All the “underdog” stuff is fun for now, but when faced with shutting out a 1-loss SEC/Big 12 team, they’ll always go establishment.
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Tyrod Taylor needs to work on his deep ball
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
He has, to his credit
But I haven’t really seen a nice throw where he leads the receiver well.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter how hard he tries or works at it
He’s still a scrambler, not a thrower.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, that one was nice
But the receiver slowed down.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
invisible hurdles
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+1000
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I was under the impression that Boise was a top 5 team
because of their magical smurf powers
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Kid has no touch.
He needs to get used to being a receiver for the pros ala Pat White. Or do the Wildcat thing.
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You overestimate the intelligence of the pro scouts my man
If some chump is dumb enough to draft Stephen McGee…
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hmmm...go for it?
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yeah, that kicker's been having trouble
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You mean
you don’t think putting the camera behind the fans is a good idea? I thought they were trying to get the ambience of a local HS broadcast.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
whoa
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apparently
the boise corner hasn’t taken Revis’s advice about putting your man on an island
or Australia
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Eesh
I don’t agree with going for 2 in the first place, and then they burn a TO. Not smart.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
Tyrod Taylor hurt
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
uh oh
somebody came up lame. Smart move Beamer
Man that entire drive was a lucky break
Except for that long run by TT
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
giggity
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who cares
about the coaches? It’s just s.i.d.’s voting.
I know
but we could rant for hours about the validity of the polls
TCU did *not* look dominant against Or. St.
That wasn’t a statement game unless Oregon State wins the PAC 10
I love TCU
Always take over on them in the 1st half. Like Boise they have absolutely no mercy against their JUCO competition lol.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Where you goin?
Nowhere!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Didn't Hamburger do the Texas-Nebraska Big 12 champ game last year?
I recall the announcer continually saying “BCS Implosion” over and over last year at the prospect of Nebraska beating TExas.
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Yes he did
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Somewhere between
“Folks” and “Roommates”, I stopped listening
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd much rather have Lou
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well
yes, there’s that, but there’s also my thing for lisps and spit
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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
that's right
I went there
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I go to a Catholic school
Heard it all, will say it all, will take it anywhere.
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Hmmm . . . I married a Catholic school grad as well
So I know of what you speak.
What?!?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
+1
of course now I’m going to have Musberger narrating horrible plays in my dreams too
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he also called LSU v UNC saturday
wife is an LSU grad, musburger gave LSU the “Texas” treatment. Needless to say Musburger is on everyone’s sh&# list in my house now
LOL at Brent Musberger
can you make any more obvious who you’re pulling for? Just listen to his tone of voice when calling the last Boise St. TD and the last two VT TDs.
Feel sorry for the Boise kid who ran into the kicker. If VT can hang on, that play will live in infamy all season for Boise fans.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
I think he's secretly a playoff guy
so he pulls for chaos as much as possible. Of course that is his job.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Most voters in the polls are in general underdog homers
But like I said, that’ll only go so far until their alma mater is up for a BCS bowl berth against a Boise or TCU, and just look at them go right back to the establishment. Right now, it’s easy to do the underdog feel good dance.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I wouldn't reveal that to everyone. nt
by whills on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
love the new sig
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WTF? Is VT playing prevent defense or something all of a sudden?
Little Kellen Moore is running free back there…
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Nice Suh commercial
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Nor are the blue
adjust your TV…they’re green.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Never seen that commercial huh?
lol
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
End of the 3rd quarter
a 1 point game. It’s comin’ down to the final quarter.
Man, I love me some football announcin’. Nothing but astute observations.
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
They're playing not to give up the big homeruns
And getting gashed as a result.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Moore overthrew that one
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Waaaaaaa!
Beamer Ball Alert!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Nope. They didn't even try.
See? They’re playing it safe now, playing not to lose or make mistakes, which as it turns out, WORKED lol.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
both QBs have been overthrowing a lot lately
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Forget to take a gulp of his Smurf juice
Rookie mistake.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
are the goalposts cursed?
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As an aside . . .
. . . a game thread without having to engage in texasfanskyisfallingism makes for a much more enjoyable time!
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
I see VT getting another TD
And boise eventually getting a TD and needing a 2-point conversion to tie. It’s been that kind of a week.
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I will be unhappy with Peterson
If we don’t see the hook and ladder or statue of liberty.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
don't know?
when trying to become a legit power, you become more traditional and less “gimmicky”.
So, if we end up playing Boise
push them to the left hash before any FG attempts!
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT reply actions
remember
when Musberger said that Boise looked like they were already in midseason form. Yeah me too, good call.
STOP WITH THE FREAKING VAMPIRE MOVIES ALREADY
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Kid's got no touch at all.
Beamer should just give up the pass and go full triple option with his two RB monsters.
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The refs are on the payroll of The Man
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Folks, I know it's a recession and all, and you're paying for college, but when you get a chance please go visit Idaho.
Are you serious?
Idaho??? I’d rather go to Alabama or one of those redneck SEC countries.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
why??
Idaho is supposed to be beautiful, and there is very little redeeming in Alabama/redneck SEC.
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But southern Idaho . . .
. . . the I-84 drive across the bottom of the state, is miserable.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
that area of Eastern Oregon, Southern Idaho and Northern Nevada
is so intriguing to me. 1000 square miles of nothing, right in the middle of the US.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's quite barren, brown and dusty
But on the flip side, I dream about driving US-50 all the way across Nevada.
And that’s a dream not narrated by Musburger.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a Holtz dream, isn't it
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I'll take your word for it
Been to Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana and all were gorgeous.
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of course it was the Rockies, Tetons and Yellowstone
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Montana, around the Missoula area, is amazing
it out-Colorados Colorado.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Brent Musberger for the Idaho/Coeur d'Alene tourist board
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Have we heard any Tyrod Taylor = VY talk yet?
I just got in from work.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Thankfully not
Since he’s V-tech guy, you’ll likely hear Vick’s name first, which would also be grossly inaccurate.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer Boinkin
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Haha, what on earth
This game is really funny.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions
wow those were some crazy gymnastics
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He has promise in the booth.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Every play is reviewed isnt it
Or is that just in NFL?
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Danke Shoen
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Kid's a scrambler.
He should work on that for the whole year to get drafted as a wide receiver for a Wildcat team and give up this pretention of being a QB.
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Ball counts too.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Hmmm...
I’d be willing to bet that some of that ball hit the ground. Probably not enough video evidence to overturn it, but maybe to blow the whistle
Stare at my avatar!
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
STOP IT!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".

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Do you have all these pics bookmarked somehwhere?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
is that sad? This is what I do during class.
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That still makes you a better law student than I was
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
favorites list
on cheezburger.com
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dammit
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what
you’re not jealous of this?

or this?

I don’t blame you. Midwestern food generally sucks.
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Polish sausage and corn. Very Polish city I live in.
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Just trying to think of stereotypically midwestern hearty foods
memories of spending time in my friend’s grandfather’s wood-paneled basement, eating hunters stews and whatnot.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
actually never tried that one
I’m an amateur chef so I basically just brought my Texas food here. Brisket, Tex-Mex, chili, etc. all served here weekly.
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You guys are not playing fair
to a transplanted Texan who is far away from a Whataburger!
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by Longhorn in Canada on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
even better:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah. That rocks.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I forgot I got VT for my BON Pick'em!
I think they’re even what, 3 points dog, too, right?
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Man
These Boise DB’s are not very strong.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions
they
need to get to Dick’s so they can get all the nike gear that will help them?
Too much of a berry diet.
Smurfs love that shit.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
"BCS Buster"
I’ll take words I loved 6 years ago but loathe now, for 500 Alex.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
by kriess on Sep 6, 2010 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Man imagine how much beating Boise would have to deliver
For the rest of the year to their lowly WAC foes if they lose this one? They’ll probably feel like they need to win by 100 every game or such.
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Well I suppose it's irrelevant
Boise would still think they need to beat every WAC’er by 50 to continue making their case given the junk schedule they have after this one and OSU later.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OSU will probably be unranked by the time they meet Boise I'd imagine
AFter losing to TCU…
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, all they have to do is score 60 points a game for the last 6 games of the season
and this loss will be long forgotten, the comps and Coaches got stoopsie in that way
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll do that win or lose
lol. It’s the WAC. Boise gets 30 points automatically in the first quarter just for showing up.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Potential landmines on the VT sked this year?
Just thinking, depending on how their season turns out, even if Boise wins, as close as this one’s been, Va Tech is going to have a large effect on popular opinion
No such thing.
When Nevada is your biggest “foe” left, it ain’t much of a sked past OSU.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops. Haven't looked.
Miami, Tar Heels, etc?
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm so conflicted about this game
On one hand, I want Boise State to bust up VT so they ruffle BCS feathers again, perhaps even with a championship appearance. On the other hand, a loss here would probably put a pretty serious dent in Moore’s quest to break Colt’s wins record.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:06 PM CDT reply actions
Screw the Smurf.
Colt FTW!
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
IDK
I dont think it possible for him to not break the record, unless he leaves after this year, as disappointing as it may be
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not an NFL prospect
So injuries or a serious dropoff in winning percentage are the only ways.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I did neglect the possiblity
of him getting carried off by a northwestern bird of prey
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
What about a mid-atlantic one?

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Mascots get all the chicks.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
It looks like that guy already ate Kellen
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Smurfs taste yummy after they've been sacked
Though a tad burp-y.
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by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I want to sit there with goofy 3D glasses watching my football
Whatever, Hamburger.
In-VINCE-able.
I honestly think 3D sports is going to be what sells those televisions
Go watch the demos in 3D, and the sports look like you’re in the stadium.
It’s amazing.
wait till jerry installs one of those in his stadium
IT’S EVEN BETTER THAN BEING THERE… EVEN THOUGH YOU’RE THERE
They tried that last year in the Chargers game.
It didn’t go over so well.
One of the last Joe Nieuwendyk supporters in Dallas....
Defending Big D - Dallas Stars news & analysis; SB Nation Dallas-Fort Worth
by Brandon Worley on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I paid a few grand to get my eyes laser'ed
I ain’t wearin’ no dang 3D glasses to watch a movie or my “stories”.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
they are pretty cool
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I think the tech has a long way to go before I'll even consider buying a 3d tv
I almost never watch TV without also doing one or more other things. For example, there’s no way in hell I’m watching a football game, then pulling off those ridiculous goggles so I can read my computer or fold my laundry every few seconds. Plus, what do you do when you have friends over to watch a game? Keep four or five extra sets of $200-300 goggles on hand?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
the cost thing is why we didn't end up getting it
even though the bf is a huge av/home theater aficionado
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LT hold much?
No flag, must be Big 12 refs.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Aggies, man, what're ya gonna do.
Just saying.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kind of hoping that Boise St. gets a last minute drive from behind
I want to see what kind of wackiness Chris Peterson cooks up.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions
3-4 first downs
this game may be done
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
As much as I disagree with the playcalling right now with 4 minutes left
Williams is a guy I would give it too. 50 % of the time, it works, everytime.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
hamburger change of heart?
actually thinking that VT might be a BCS caliber team?
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions
I'm telling you, Beamer needs to bust some heads
Those RBs have no idea how to hold the ball. Sheesh.
In-VINCE-able.
STupid Herb beat me to it.
Stupid herb.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
+100 for me, but its not over yet.....
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Quote the Raven, Nevermore....
will BSU be considered a BCS buster?
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
oooh thank you HH
for giving me an opportunity to use my favorite one…
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
I thought you'd like that
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Waiting...
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Not over. VT about to give the ball back
and we’ve all seen Boise driving in the final 2 minutes
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
I don’t know about that. You want to stay in bounds now but you still want to get positive yards.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions
but he ran out of bounds, wasn't pushed out
instead of running out, just kneel
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm talking about Taylor's called run
On second down. Didn’t agree with that.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
this game reminds me of the 2005 natl championship
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Except that game had 2 good teams playing
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
no
one was actually good and one just made the plays in the end
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Moore gets the ball back with 2 minutes?
Plenty of time.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Block in El Backo
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Really?
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
sorry but that wasnt a block in the back
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT reply actions
I disliked the 2nd down call
That put them in 3rd and long.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I forget
how did that one work out for us?
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Wow
VT imploding
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
boise is gonna win this!!!
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed
he stepped out 3 yards before, then RAN back in bounds….and got hit.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
BOISE BOISE BOISE BOISE
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
wow
stupidest call ever
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
should have planted that in someone's mind

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
run the ball boise!!
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
DAMN!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
kellen moore for heisman!!!!!!
seriouslyyyyyyy
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
Not Case Keenum!?!?!?!?!
WHA?!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Clutchy System QB FTW
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for the Tyrod Taylor Show
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Kellen Moore deserves to break colt mccoys win record
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:28 PM CDT reply actions
he is a better qb than colt was in college
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yeah good point
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
in fact
the entire state of Idaho has been better than the entire state of Texas since the beginning of time
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember the Potato!
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
wow really?
that makes so much sense
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
I know it's Labor Day, so you may still be drunk
But…hush, child. Grown folks be talking.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
you're just trying to piss off the entire board, aren't you?
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
You never cease to amaze me
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Yeah, all those super tough WAC competition
Definitely deserves it lol.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They scored too quickly
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
True that
If Texas was playing I wouldn’t be having NEARLY this much fun lol.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome
Just plain awesome. I mean, if Moore’s going to beat Colt’s record anyway, I have absolutely no reason not to want this to happen. Texas can defend the establishment, but watching these southeastern teams go down to have-nots is worth the price of admission.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:29 PM CDT reply actions
I know I should be cheering for VT
but I just can’t. I’ve always hated VT. And I like Boise. GO BRONCOS!
why should you be cheering for VT?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I figure it helps UT more in the big picture if VT wins
by longhorn_dan on Sep 6, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
If nothing else
it shuts up hamberger for a little bit
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, maybe if they're competing for at-large BCS bids
But I don’t think that’s reason enough to root against the little guy in week one.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at their budget, facilities, etc.
They’re most definitely the little guy, when compared to just about any “BCS” team, especially a major program like VT. They’re not Rice, but they’re a lot closer to Rice in terms of resources and tradition than they are to even Texas Tech or Wisconsin.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Have a bet for VT, Know a VT win is better for us.
But I can’t stop myself rooting for Boise! why?
In Mack Brown We Trust!
Officials
putting their mark all over this one. Sad.
For Chrissakes!
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
thanks for that mental image
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
this is me trying to piss off BoN:
looks like kellen moore will have 2 things colt never had, a natl championship and a heisman, and the winningest qb ever
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:32 PM CDT reply actions
Holy crap
He had them. that’s just an awful throw.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
Or maybe the WR was supposed to come back
Either way, a miss.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, it could've been called OPI
Although DPI might’ve been legitimate. I do miss DVR.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahahahhah go boise!!
told yall they would win,…. buncha haters on here
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
Bwahahahahahahah!
Ur rite, haytaz! Lolz!
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh. My. God.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
That's what she said
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I applaud you
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
That's what she said
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, a double shot
…
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
That's what . . . oh, never mind
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
What did BSU do to make you dislike them? I consider Florida State, Miami, Notre Dame, and many others far easier to loathe than Boise State.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
but notre dame is teh awesomm!!!!
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
They failed to submit to wait for their applications to the Good Ol' Boys Club to be approved like good little boys
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
How long does the dues-paying period last?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Those teams earned their positions
in the college football world with more than a century of devoting training, funding and discipline to this game. It irks me that people vilify the “establishment” as if they haven’t put a lot of effort into becoming the establishment.
If Boise raises its profile, receives an invite to a major conference, and eventually gets a place at the table, then fine, They will have been properly indoctrinated. But preparing all of your offseason for one game, then resting for the entire regular season so they’re fresh for the title game, taking advantage of the Big Boy’s difficult schedules, in which they get banged up and depleted and emotionally worn down (an endurance they’ve earned over the long-haul of college football history) makes Boise the villain here.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
So . . .
receives an invite to a major conference
if that never happens (and you know it won’t for a long time), Boise is just simply SOL?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
How did Virginia Tech earn it?
And does the fact that Boise State is in an area of the country that developed later than the rest of those schools mean that they should be forever shut out of any kind of mobility? Do you feel that a caste system is how it should always be for college sports?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not at all
But creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences (ie: major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles) is bad for the betterment of college football.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
WHAT?
But creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences (ie: major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles) is bad for the betterment of college football.
How is Boise State “creating tensions between college football powers and their conferences”? How is Boise State causing “major powers begin to see being in a major conference as detrimental to winning titles”? Neither is happening. If you are simply not wanting a non-BCS+ND team to make it to the BCS championship game, that’s perhaps a different discussion, but what the heck do you have against Boise State? And even if that were the discussion, how would the first non-BCS+ND team to make it to the BCS championship in the entire history of the BCS/coalition system cause a complete paradigm shift, which seems to be what you’re implying?
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 7, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand why V-tech kept chucking the ball there
You need 11 yards, not 40.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
It's interesting that Boise threw for 10 yards at a stretch
While VT decided to go for it all on every play LOL. BAD coaching there, kids.
In-VINCE-able.
A+, sir
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yall just dont get it???
boise beats badass teams year in and year out and yall still doubt…. some of yall need to watch more football
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
Dude, who cares
Boise’s not going to MNC no matter what. They won’t get voted in over a Big 12 or SEC team. Never gonna happen.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
New Mexico State, natch
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
No they don't.
They do not beat Texas, they do not beat Florida, they do not beat USC, they do not beat Alabama, they do not beat Ohio State….etc.
They beat Idaho, New Mexico State, TCU, Cal State Fullerton…etc. They are a good team, but they do not beat “badass” teams like you say.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
people like you
make me not root for them anymore!
In Mack Brown We Trust!
Good news/bad news
Good news: I was right. That makes me happy. And richer.
Bad news; gpt was right. That makes me sad.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
boise state is the truth, and kellen moore is the best qb since vy
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Please stop talking, I haven't been exposed to this sort of idiocy since kindergarten.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You've never visited our sister SBN blog from BCS?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Repressed memories of beergut eating paste...
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
"taking dead aim"
Please send royalty check to:
Mack Brown
Head Coach
The University of Texas at Austin
I thought the same.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
I always root for beavers
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm on a roll tonight
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
ah crap

Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
I blame OU.
They started this whole thing with their world-sized choke job.
It's funny how everyone chokes when playing BSU
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I never saw it like that.
Boise State had an opportunity and took it. They executed and out-trick played Stoops, the old trickster himself.
Choking is so 20th Century.
It always revolves around OU hate
I’m loving it.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Fresno State, Oregon State, and several others will have their crack at BSU
But it’s not a rough schedule remaining.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
ours isnt much harder... lol, we only play 2 hard teams this year, same a boise... jeez
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
if Boise played Houston
who would you root for?
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Head would explode
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Let's make that game happen!
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
boise... they are better... much better
they beat up on tcu, ou, va tech, etc etc and yall still dont give em props… jealous??
they are a much better team than us right now and i would definately put my life savings on them if they played against us
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Im calling my congressmen tomorrow
to get a deportation order set up
by future_longhorn_dad on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
they only thing that needs deporting is ur football knowledge
thinkuing va tech would win??? hahahahhahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahhahahahaah
oh mercy
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh huh
You were the guy agreeing that you would need to eat crow just a while ago. And now you’re the genius who absolutely knew Boise would win.
Funny guy, you are.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
never lost the faith... they are still gonna win the MNC
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
eat crow if a lost that is
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
is your quote from Kellen Moore in last year's fiesta bowl?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
I think Boise would probably beat us if we played them in our first game
they already have way more experience and chemistry. At the end of the season though, I’d give Texas the edge due to a superior defense and speed.
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Harrison Smith
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by LonghornEm on Sep 6, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Awesome
Happy for Boise State. Not like these guys have showed up out of nowhere. If this is they’re year, so be it. Lord knows the deck is stacked against ’em otherwise.
Great game. What a way to cap a great opening weekend…
You ain't hurt...
I wish Boise had scored without those two bad calls
They still could have, definitely, but those calls kind of stole a little luster from the end.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 6, 2010 10:40 PM CDT reply actions
definitely
i hate it when refs ruin a magical ending
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Night all
off for some Musberger and Holtz-fueled dreams
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Call it what it is
At the end of the day, a middle-to-upper tier ACC team spotted them 17 points, and they still had to get a comeback that VT gift-wrapped for them at the end. These are not world-beaters. Give me a break.
who would win if they played us? ou? oregon? haah give me a break
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
its funny, ur ignoring the evidence just cause u are worried boise is legit
let me save u the trouble…. they are
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent!
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
hell, we can barely beat up on rice these days, their d line made our o line look like jr high
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
because we gave up a shitload of sacks against Rice.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
exactly, and our running game was the worst against an opening opponent in 8 years...
our o line got owned, i actually watched the game with my burnt orange glasses off
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty certain you're the last person here to own burnt orange glasses
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i just call it like a see it and am one of the people here who sees the negative things we need to work on
instead of the positive happy rainbow thoughts that our running game will actually be worth a damn this year… it aint. we will lose 3 games, jeesh, get used to it
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I was being sarcastic.
We didn’t give up any, and only had 2 rushes for negative yards. We played vanilla, and I’m okay with that.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Or . . .
. . . Boise State came from behind, on the road*, against a top-ten team in the last two minutes to win.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
3rd in the ACC, best case
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's be honest here . . .
. . . if, say, a third-ranked USC or, dare I say, Texas, had just done what Boise State just did, very few people would be dismissing VT as a mere third-place-to-be team in the ACC and would instead be focusing on what I pointed out.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
+1 end thread
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I just mean I saw a very sloppy team in VT with a boatload of issues to work out
they looked sloppy regardless of opponent. And surprisingly questionably coached.
boise looked just a sloppy as v-tech and they almost gave away that game
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
You're point is certainly valid . . .
. . . I’m just pointing out that these facts are much more likely to be pointed out when BSU is the victor as opposed to a traditional power.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
There's also this
BSU had 21 or 22 players returning, were a veteran team with a ton of experience. With that experienced an offense, their trademark, ou’d expect them to be able to drive well at the end of the game.
So, really VT should have gone for more points and not left the game to be decided at the end. That’s the key strategic mistake.
BSU is going to have a much lesser chance to prove how good they are…sure, their experience served them well in the beginning of the season…but people catch up at the end.
The question is how long can they live off this win?
looking at it now, their sked is doing them fewer favors than I originally thought
After week 3, they will mostly drop off the national radar for conference play. You always hear, if you’re going to lose, lose early, people will forget about it… perhaps the converse rule applies to early (only marquee) wins
If FSU beats OU and then VT beats FSU and Miami, they're back.
They have some routes to get back, not that I care particularly either way.
BSU will get some attention from winning and being in the top 10, but they don’t have much else to claim the limelight. We, as fans, are easily bored and notoriously fickle. So there’s a whole second game for them that doesn’t even concern football per se.
But the media will keep them in the game
Back to the season-long narrative theme I’ve discussed. I think they’ll be in the spotlight no matter which directional tech they’re beating up in late October
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, they'll get some but it can be stolen.
They have celebrity capital but no real place to spend it.
"Your point"
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think I would
They showed little, a whiner quarterback, terrible special teams (go up in the stands and find a kicker) and have a killer conference slate.
I would say that Texas/USC escaped and should be damn glad they get to keep their ranking. Boise escaped and should be damn glad they get to keep their ranking
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
We know what you would say . . .
. . . but what would, say, Staples or Maisel say?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Something to piss me off
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Oregon St. have any shot @ smurfland?
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:46 PM CDT reply actions
I'd take any team with a good passing game against that secondary
Don’t know if I would consider Oregon St. a qualifier
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd simply take a team with a good coach
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
My Dallas Cowboys should learn from BSU
and simply play in the SEC and still go to the Super Bowl.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Hope GG was watching the game tonight..I thought Moore was pretty impressive
Lotta things to be learned here
COACH BOOM BABY!!
I knew yall would see it my way:

"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Sep 6, 2010 10:50 PM CDT reply actions
Play of the game
What if VT hadn’t thrown an incompletion on 3rd down with two minute sto go and no BSU TOs remaining?
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
yeah, Hokie fans can't be too pleased with Beamer and that offensive coordinator
along with the refs at the end
by goingforthecorner on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh
I feel a contentious, argumentative season developing here. I apologize in advance for any enemies I make over the next few months
Here's what I suggest
Since we’re going to clearly be on different sides of this argument.
What can we agree on?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
+infinity
Although I have to say Sonic is pretty damn good too. Every time I go, there’s a new menu item, and it’s always awesome. Is there anything Sonic can’t do well?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Honey Butter Chicken Biscuit
That is all.
whataburger taquitos with bacon?
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreement
(1) Boise State is a good team. Undefined as to whether Top Two/Five/Ten/Whatever, but a good team.
(2) Boise State is in a weak conference.
(3) Boise State would have a much more difficult time running the table in a BCS conference. Even the Big East. (But we can’t say for sure whether they would or would not.)
(4) Style points will be infinitely much more important for BSU in its conference games than they will be for traditional powers.
Anything else before we move to areas of disagreement?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, not everyone will agree on that
I’ll speak for BH on that one
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I doubt everybody will agree on the first 4
some stupidity is inevitable
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Agreed
I said earlier, and I’ll stick to it, Boise belongs in the similar orbit to Georgia and Oregon year in and year out.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a pretty big fan of
Belgian beer
German philosophy
Russian cinema
American Photography
Spanish architecture
winter clothing
mountain ranges
and proper grammar..
Any of those score points with you?
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
Post soviet or soviet era?
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Soviet era gave us some good directors from peripheral regions
that have since gained independence and thus probably have a harder time funding films, but contemporary Russian films are still pretty good. Russian directors seem, on aggregate, to have a much more sophisticated sense of light and space than directors from other cultures.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll call it a point of agreement
Though at this point my Russian is poor enough I’m doomed to be staring at subtitles too often to enjoy they delicious foreboding they have perfected. Soviet era tends to be to self-conscious (understandably) for my tastes.
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
A friend of mine attempted to teach me Russian last year
for the sole purpose of bypassing the horrific subtitles in Russian films. Got the alphabet and some vocabulary and then he moved to DC.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
How difficult was it?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I found the rules to be pretty straight-forward
but I ceased learning before getting into the really advanced grammar. I need to pick that up again.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I went with self-taught Portuguese a few years back . . .
. . . in advance of spending time in Brazil. For some reason, I was able to teach myself a language better than I was able to pick one up when taught by a professional in college or high school.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
That's unfortuante. If you want to get back into it
I suggest these as a decent and free method.
Thus far Korean films are my record holder for worst subtitling, though I will give points for hilarity.
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I should have taken it at UT, but went for German instead (some delusions I had of reading Wittgenstein’s original texts).
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha, I had similar delusions with Russian
Only to realize that I would graduate a long time before I reached anything approaching fluency. Still, great way to spend some time.
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by learned hand on Sep 6, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
belgian beer and spanish architecture both get big-ups from me
Sagrada Familia is amazing! Though I suppose that’s really “Catalan”…
Grammar is nice as well.
Is Sagrada Familia anything like Leffe Blonde?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, so it's more of a porter
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe two Calatrava structures
were scrapped in NY after the economy collapsed. Sigh
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Say me! Say me!
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ain't too proud to beg
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Mostly early
Clarence White, Paul Strand, Tina Modotti (born in Italy, but still), Harry Callahan, and Ray Metzker are probably my favorites.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
I have multiple, actually, depending on what I’m pretending to be at any particular moment. First love is architectural photography, but trying to pay the bills right now with baby/family photography. It’s amazing how having your own baby instantly gets you networked in the community of those who need such images.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I wound up doing studio type advertising for a couple of years.
Then had a business that did a lot of portraiture and restoration of old photos, lot of weddings and retreats. i could do it well enough but really boring, but when your married and have young kids, you gotta do what you gotta do.
The Houston magazines – Houston Homes and a few more – were great sources of work for architecture and interior photographs…high tech, great equipment, but you could make a mint. I didn’t do that at all but a friend I knew did. If you got the set up, it’s worth a look. If you work with kids for long, you gotta have the patience of Job. Dogs are worse.
Dog photography seems to be the new trend
Apparently its very lucrative.
This discussion is making me nostalgic for the smell of fixer.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll shoot dogs too
You pay me, I’ll shoot it.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
We have ranchers like that
you don’t even have to pay them.
I see the need in this country for another WPA photo examination of life
for another WPA photo examination of life as we know it.
I do history, run a history museum…the mundane is more important than we know.
Which museum?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
The Falls on the Colorado Museum.
A small and relatively new local history museum…we created it in 1998, got a venue in 2004…and soon to move to a historic granite building constructed in 1891. Our website is not complete but what there is here.
Been going to Mid-American Arts Alliance workshops; did a year long program for boards and directors for national accreditation as a board…good for grants. Will start another if they get funding…we’re grouped with other small museums, although many are much older, like the French Legation where we had the last workshop.
I'll be sure to come by when I'm in the neighborhood ;)
I wonder how much impact such studies can have today (the WPA project, I mean). Photojournalism was borne of a “prove it with pictures” mentality, all the way from the days of Jacob Riis. But people are not only desensitized by images these days, they no longer trust them.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
The mass media and digital world create that distrust.
It is well earned; don’t trust any of it. Maybe it should be straight film work in shooting with contact prints or minimum blow-ups with frame edges revealed.
I still have a negative carrier filed a bit wider than a 35 neg so I could reveal that ‘artist integrity’ of the totally conceived and rendered image. It was a conceit back in the day but a certain validity of authenticity. But even negs can be manipulated today better than Jerry Uelsmann could even do back in the day (but without the charm and surprise).
The one type of photography which I will never do...
…is wedding photography.
I don’t want to wear a tux while I work.
Most wedding photographers seem annoying.
Most importantly, I don’t want to be fired on the spot because I’m checking my phone for football scores while the ceremony is going on.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the hardest one, really...you can't screw up someone's wedding.
They’ll remember you for a long, long time…or not if they get divorced. Do second time around weddings…they don’t care near as much, few mothers (who do get crazy and obsessive) and most just want to get to the party reception.
Good money and a lot of fun.
I've known a couple of wedding photographers
One gave it up a few years ago, but he says he still wakes up from nightmares about showing up late to a wedding.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
White and Strand are great, Callahan I really enjoy.
Modotti I can recall off hand, but like Giacomelli. Just looked at Metzker, like them at first look. II feel there is a kinship to George Krause, a Philadelphia photographer that taught at UH, but a different scale. I learned to print in Krause’s dark room, which another friend and I had remodeled for him…via one of his grad students.
Love the classics, but also like Chinese and Japanese photos as well. Like the women photographers, Gay Block, their movement from the beginning from Lange in WPA and Imogene Cunningham.
I started after college, self taught, found a mentor in Toni Cronin in Houston (his collection is at HMOA.
Do you still photograph much?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not much the last couple of years.
I write and photograph, but seldom at the same time. For what I do, it is immersive. I don’t do it if I don’t have the time.
My favorite photo is by EJ Bellocq
THe book cover here.
I know someone who owns one of the vintage prints. One of the most esoteric photos I’ve even seen.
Most of Metzker's more notable work doesn't seem to be online
He’s a bit of an extension of Harry Callahan, shooting in Chicago, shooting high contrast, chiaroscuro images and photo-collage, but about 10 years after Callahan. He sort of took what was a very widely cast experimental net for Callahan and honed into a more specific style.
That’s incredible that you learned under Krause.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Krause wasn't really my mentor
but because we became friends, I was able to learn a lot. He change my sense of scale…he shot .35 and printed small…his whole discipline was amazing and it made me realize that if I was going to do it, you have to absolutely commit to it.
I didn’t realize til later his hypercriticism of prints but it is absolutely necessary if you’re going to make fine prints. You must find what and why you are shooting and how your images reflect that…and you.
Best discourse of the whole open thread, imo. nt
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
You really have access to seeing a lot of great prints if you're in NYC.
I don’t do that much now and miss it…so many are like old friends. I need to go to HRC and fulfill my needs real soon. Love Julie Margaret Cameron and they have a couple, don’t show them much.
Best bet in New York are the galleries
The ICP and MOMA (who seem to have the market for photography in New York cornered) have pretty mediocre curation for these things.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Any SoCal recommendations
You have connections to this area as well too, right?
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 6, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct. I grew up in Santa Barbara
but aside from the Brooks Institute, I know very little about the West Coast photo scene. I haven’t really lived there since I was about 16.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 6, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never been to NYC and seldom go to Houston any more.
I began there, was a member of the Houston Center for Photography, which had people like Krause, Manual and others in a tight community, so I got some taste of that consensus and made me understand how good you really must be to be a real success in that field at that time. But the times were changing in the mid 70s and photography was about to make several transitions.
See, there is some common ground.
I’d never talked to HH about photography…just didn’t have the time. I’m doing a second book of local historic photos and when I finish that, I’m gonna shoot more. I do carry a camera around in my vehicle…you get to be like a doctor and his bag in that regard. I just don’t hunt so much. I do natural light most of the time, seldom do people at all.
Don’t have a site but I really need one.
Been meaning to buy a 645
and start shooting again. I was a darkroom nerd in college, and spent a lot of time at the HRC as well. Something about rendering someone’s image in silver appealed to me immensely. Later, the philosophy behind the image took grip and I’ve been a bit of a photo-theorist ever since.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 7, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
The world of images balanced me
That’s been the greatest value. The world of words is loud, a cacophony in so many ways, always some approximation of something via the nature of language. The world of images is cool, quiet, singular.and a blend of feelings and vision…like poetry, what it feels like is important; the depth of that feeling and the emotions it generates is a different plane than literature (to me, anyway), although there are relative valuations that approximate the same thing.
When I first discovered that images could bypass consciousness instantly, I immediately realized the power that they could get to you before you know you’ve been gotten (in Texas phrasing). It’s true of other visual arts as well, but photos can be so overwhelming in that respect.
I was so lucky that my real mentor was a gallery owner and via his business, I got to see many of the great photos of the world directly…just seeing and feeling those are an education in and of itself. One of my early favorites that maintained over time is Bill Brandt…I don’t even know why I loved his work, but there is some affinity somewhere that made a connection and my normal consciousness is merely an observer in that process.
Aside from thought, images were one of the earliest things we created as humans. They may even have predated thought (and language) for all we know, thus the intuitive and feeling connection.

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