Pundit Roundup is Back and This Time It's Collaborative
Aaaaand we're back. Finally. Sorry about the 10 month absence. I'll try (to try) to do better next time. Due to my insane work schedule (mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be corporate lawyers in NYC) I've been gone for a while. But in an effort to keep this post regular regardless of how deep a rabbit hole of legalese I happen to have fallen into at any given time, I've enlisted some collaborators this year. Also because everyone wanted a piece of ripping the media. Come join us, won't you?
THE CURSE OF CONFOUNDING EXPECTATIONS
by billyzane
Around the beginning of each year, I inevitably write a post about the media "narrative" of the year. Last year I wrote about it on a macro level: the narrative arc of the 2009 season and how the more fluid week-to-week narrative affects that season-long narrative. This year, I think that, as far as Texas is concerned, what matters is the micro narrative of a specific team entering the season and how it affects what the media write about that team and thus what the public perceives about that team.
"I don't know if it was the heat, the sweaty hands, I don't know what it was, but we're figuring that out. We figured that out yesterday, and we're going to keep building on that this week." - Florida quarterback John Brantley on all the muffed snaps against Miami University. According to USA Today, Mike Pouncey said he's adjusted his grip on the football. Well then. (HT to txtwstr7) |
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Bill Simmons: "Are all college football game this good? I might have to start following this sport." Bill Simmons: "How do I get on the Boise State bandwagon? Is there paperwork I have to fill out? Do I need to buy things online? Please advise." (HT to txtwstr7)
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Hey, You know who sucks? Mark Kreidler! Not for suggesting that Reggie Bush was a better player in 2005 than VY (reasonable minds can disagree, but your reasonable mind is stupid), but rather for suggesting that Heisman voters have any clue what they're doing: "The problem, for the Trust, is that the Heisman voters got it right that season. They watched the games closely. They were (as revealed by straw polls and other anecdotal collections of opinion) fairly divided in the early going among Bush, Young and USC quarterback Matt Leinart, who had won the award the season before. And then they watched Bush just obliterate opponent after opponent, especially in otherworldly performances against Fresno State (513 all-purpose yards) and UCLA (260 rushing yards), and they made their call." Hahahaha, good one, Mark! (HT to txtwstr7) |
Last year, I wrote the following: "Being good at something other than what people thought you would be good at is going to make them think that something's wrong, not that something's right." What I meant by this in 2009 was that it didn't matter how good Texas' defense was last year (or how many games they won because of it) because the media's micro narrative for the team was that it would be an offensive juggernaut (based on 2008 results, when it legitimately was one). Because Texas excelled in an area in which they were not expected to excel rather than the one in which they were expected to excel, the media narrative was not centered on how well Texas ground out wins with defense; it was instead a question: what's wrong with the Texas offense? Was that the narrative for Alabama, who had similar results (if not a similar style)? Of course it wasn't, and the reason is that this was not the pre- and early season narrative for Alabama.
That same 2009 quote can be applied to this 2010 Texas team as well. And it's the fault of the Texas coaching staff that this is the case. The buzz words this offseason emanating from Belmont were "downhill running", " pro-style", "offensive balance" and the like. Did you say "change of offensive system"? The media is intrigued and would like to write about this change ad nauseum. And with that, the coaching staff has set the bar high for what constitutes success in the running game. That's fine in theory, of course, as we would of course rather aim high than low. But as a result of so much talking, if Texas doesn't rush for 200 or 250 yards in a game, then the story written after the game by the Statesman or ESPN or even BON to a certain extent isn't an analysis of what we did well in order to win, it's an analysis of why we're still having trouble rushing.
The media wants, needs, craves a ready-made storyline. In a sport as chaotic and hard to follow on a detailed level (without re-watching on DVR) as football is, such a micro narrative provides a simple and casual-fan-friendly way to look at a team and gauge its success. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that--the running game will indeed likely be an important part of Texas' success (or lack thereof) this season--but the point is really that these micro narratives can have a tangible effect on how a team is publicly perceived and, because of the nature of college football's ranking system, this can affect the outcome of its season. The more Texas struggles in the running game throughout the season, the more the team is perceived to be struggling, no matter how many wins it racks up or how well the rest of the team is playing, particularly the defense. We saw it last year with the offense as a whole, and I think we'll continue to see it this year.
Of course, if the running game suddenly comes into its own and proceeds to shred opposing defenses in the process, then this micro narrative can work to Texas' advantage. But, um, well....you saw the Rice game, right?
A PERSPECTIVE ON THE FALSE DICHOTOMIES OF SPORTS MEDIA
by learned hand
The WWL and its progeny like simple "either"/"or" equations (e.g. "Either Boise State deserves to play in the MNC or they're a WAC pretender") While this is great for drama and ratings, it's terrible for helping fans understand what, exactly, is happening. The false dichotomy does two things to fans, it creates the illusion of prognosticative accuracy in our minds by boiling a complex event down to a single immutable equation (thus guaranteeing that one of two commentators will be right in the outcome if not in the analysis), and it reduces sports dialogue to simple, and erroneous, extremes. Life is messy, people are messy, and so is football. And a guy who writes a column as messy as Pat Forde should know this.
Football gives us the comforting illusion of finality, there is a winner and a loser and at the end we can represent that as a zero sum equation. One side won, one side lost, it all adds up. The problem arises because the method of explaining that zero sum generally sucks (i.e. was one team hands-down better, or was there a blown call or an uncharacteristic mistake etc.?), and all the factors outside of that single zero sum can't be explained without complex subjective and objective arguments that make for great blogs and boring television. But that doesn't mean that we, the fans, should believe that everything in our sports life can be exemplified by a trumped up argument between Mark May and Lou Holtz.
Back to Forde, a columnist whom I read only for the pictures (Writer, why is there a Sophia Vergara in my football column? Oh, to distract from the hackery? In that case, next time more statuesque blonde tennis players and less Wannestache.) The argument that he and Ivan Maisel make is that Boise now has "one foot in Glendale". As a rhetorical question, if any one of the ACC teams showing signs of life (UNC, Miami, FSU, Georgia Tech) had defeated Va. Tech by 3 points in the first game of the season, would they have one foot in Glendale? No. Beating Virginia Tech is an ACC tradition - the school hasn't gone undefeated in conference play in over a decade (and hasn't gone undefeated since 1954). ESPN would have delayed the coronation until at least October. So, why are we asked to give Boise more credit than a BCS school would get for the same effort? Conversely, why am I asked to believe that if Boise hadn't won they would just be another WAC illusion - the so-called "Establishmentarian" contingent Forde goes full Don Quixote de La Mancha on? Had Boise not pulled out the victory they certainly would have shown "any given Saturday" bona fides, as they have in several of the past years. I haven't seen anyone at least give them credit for playing BCS caliber football - if not necessarily MNC caliber.
By using the false dichotomy major media has a storyline to follow for the next few months, an entire team of plucky underdogs, which has to be worth at least half a Tebow. And the only cost was a little nuance from the amazing thing that is the college football season. Which is why we should all be encouraged to have room for nuance in our sports lives; it makes things more interesting. It doesn't have to be "Greg Davis is horrible/Greg Davis is the Best OC in college football" or "No BCS Buster deserves a shot at the MNC/We're ready to pencil in one team in Glendale after the first game of the season." In fact, if we want to get close to the truth, we should all accept that we'll often need to forgo black and white for a shade of grey.
And now, without further ado, but with apologies to New York Magazine and Adam Sternbergh, here is your weekly Undulating Curve of Media Hype.
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By far, my favorite thing on BON
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Sep 9, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks rBr. It's my favorite thing to write.
I’m a little rusty at it, but I’m bullish on our chances of making it awesome this year.
Batman/Robin tagteam with Learned Hand
You’ve already got one foot in Glendale.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Sep 9, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks rBr.
Probably more justice league this year than batman and robin. I call “not Aquaman”.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely missed this.
You guys are right about how the media loves to argue. I’m finding it harder and harder to read what ESPN columnist have to say because it’s often so simplistic. Everyone once in a while they might right something good, but that’s normally when they explore the “people” aspect of the sport rather than their analysis of what’s happening on the field.
One great example of this is Forde’s contrasting reactions to the Texas-OU game and the Alabama-Tennessee game. For the former, he made lame jokes that the game reminded him of Bevo’s droppings, because after all, it was an ugly offensive game between teams that were supposedly offensive powerhouses (remember 2008?!). Very little mention went to the defenses. However, when Alabama squeaked out a victory—a victory coming from Tennessee special teams errors, no less—he went on to say how Alabama “controlled” the game and lauded their defense. It was amusing to see how his preconceived notions drove his narrative to such extremes.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 9, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions
But remember…The Big 12 did not play defense last year. Every national writer said so, so it had to be true. The Redneck Conference was the only conference with outstanding defensive players.
by dimecoverage on Sep 9, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey now Dime...
Those SEC girls think my tractor’s sexy
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I blame OU for that
I spent all of 2008 and most of 2009 pointing out that the SEC doesn’t play defense so much better than anyone else as much as it is that they play offense worst than just about everyone.
If OU had beaten Florida in the BCS championship game or y’all had beaten Alabama (especially with a backup QB) in the game last season, this narrative would have taken off.
The SEC as a whole lacks elite QBs. Quick, besides Ryan Mallett, name another bonafide star QB in the SEC? Who do you come up with? Greg McElroy? Exactly.
Wrong
“If OU had beaten Florida in the BCS championship game or y’all had beaten Alabama (especially with a backup QB) in the game last season, this narrative would have taken off.”
The media decides what story line is valid and it doesn’t matter what evidence there is to the contrary.
BTW…A&M’s defense certainly didn’t help dispel any Big 12 doesn’t play defense narratives last season.
by dimecoverage on Sep 9, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
But if they are slapped with evidence to the contrary, they change their tune
See 2006 season, when “The Big Ten Is The Best Conference EVAR!!” changed to “Wow, Ess Eee See Speed Dominates” after Florida whipped Ohio State in the BCS championship game.
Oklahoma or texas winning would have been such a slap.
We may be expecting too much from SEC offenses, though; apparently, players there are just trying to master the skills needed to take a shower.
I can’t decide if that is sad or just pathetic. I doubt Dooley’s job description included player’s personal hygiene as part of the job.
The SEC is the best conference pump really started about the time the ESPN contract was in the works. Coincidence?
by dimecoverage on Sep 9, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That seems more about fortune than anything, to be honest
IN 2006, if Colt McCoy doesn’t get hurt or USC doesn’t get upset by UCLA (or if South Carolina hits a FG), Florida doesn’t make it to the title game. In 2007, that was a 2 loss champion and considered the weakest champion of the last decade, benefiting from an unusual down year in college football. In 2008, Florida got the benefit of the doubt over Texas and USC. Only in 2009 was there an undefeated champion that got in with little controversy. Those teams deserve credit for actually winning the MNC game, but the fact that they got in the game in the first place was fortunate for three of four of those teams. They had one championship the first six years of the decade. Are we to just conclude they weren’t very good then?
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 9, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Greg McElroy
Can anyone say Southlake Carroll system QB? Todd Dodge could certainly churn out the offensive numbers while he was there. Kind of like Tech. You could put a trained monkey back there and he could come up with at least 1,000 yards passing.
by dimecoverage on Sep 9, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Any word from Forde on the Fulmer Cup standings?
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Sep 9, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This is the balls. Well done, sirs.
BZ – in regard to the narrative we carried with us into last year of being the offensive power we were in 2008, I think one could presume that the best preseason narrative to have is one following less dominance in the previous season. Which is what concerns me this year coming off the heels of a national championship. What was the narrative coming off of our 10-3 2007 into 2008 where expectations were perhaps lower?
LH – Plunky Underdogs = half a Tebow. Conference Expansion = ?
by Infield Elephant on Sep 9, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
Conference Expansion = Brett Farve Retirement/Un-Retirement
“Will they?”, “Won’t they?”, “OMG, THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!”
And apparently, they’re both going to be an annual occurrence.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Every dog has a favorite bone.
When it goes the media’s way (they’re somewhat accurate) they push their over weaning knowledge and relevancy; when they don’t get an accurate picture, then it is because they lack key information, or that something dramatically changed or “we didn’t know the back story building up and just being revealed.” Neither way is it their misguided preconception nor their lack of context: the story still goes out as “Breaking” and draws in viewers.
The media itself pushes the idea of the non-involved middle man, the honest news broker and the specialist reporter – and switch masks to suit their needs. There are 120 developing stories on the Naked 50 Yard Line – how many are you hearing? Are you stuck in Phil Steele’s micro review world of football teams where that momentary image has already started moving down the line, leaving you with a hand full of projections and little fulfillment?
Do we, the readers (and we who might audit these punditry processes) have problems with depth and context, with breadth of reporting and with the compelling media model of hot breaking news. It’s not exactly HST’s fear and loathing ala politics, but the process and manipulation is not far from it either.
The media’s own self-interest often limits, if not blinds, their vision of what is actually going on, to see things are they really are, with their certain aristocratic imperative that they know what is right and that you should like it…and them. Howard Cosell was the base model and the media drank his black acid all the way.
This post
is too long to read and does not contain enough graphics, pictures and bullet points. Wake me up for the next sex scandal.
by Infield Elephant on Sep 9, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If you recall in 2008, we had low national expectations.
We started the season ranked outside of the top 10 for the first time since 1999. Half of us we’re calling for Chiles to start over McCoy! That’s part of what made the ride so much more fun in 2008 than 2009: no expectations. And when we so completely confounded the narrative the media had for us, the only thing to write was “wow, look how great these guys are playing!”
Preconceived Notions
“I would see it if I didn’t believe it”
my bad
I couldn’t see it if I didn’t believe it.
I was reading into that one pretty deep.
Couldn’t get it.
by Infield Elephant on Sep 9, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
YES! Pundit Roundup!
“worth half a Tebow” – Awesome.
Seriously? Denard Robinson doesn’t tie his shoes? They should give him a nickname of some kind because of that, and then tell us on air, and explain why they call him that over and over.
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
@learnedhand
Run for office or something. I may vote for you even if you don’t.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 9, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions
Haha, thanks ppk
1) Only if I can get to BZ edit my speeches
2) I encourage you to write in Learned Hand for public office. If nothing else, it should make a few pollsters day more interesting.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 10, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
“BZ to edit”
And this is why I need an editor…I think I lost 50 IQ points after the bar exam.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 10, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha the bar exam, is that where you drink a lot?
Just thought you should know, maybe this is Mack hedging bets, but he mentioned in his post-practice report on Sept. 8th that the #1 most important factor correlated to winning was scoring offense. He made it it a point to emphasize that a team that loses 9 games but runs the ball well hasn’t really accomplished anything. This would seem to me like Mack is backing off of the hard line stance on the running game.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, this is a really good press conference by Mack.
It’s almost as if he’s responding to exactly the narrative that you’re explicating. His main argument is that points are points — whether they come on defense or special teams or offense, it doesn’t matter it. The running game, as per Mack on Sept. 8th, is merely a means to and end (scoring offense), and should not be focused on at the expense of the offense as a whole.
Like I said, it’s as if Mack is responding to and chop blocking the potential media narrative that you outline above.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions
pardon the typos.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions
"The Narrative" is so damned lazy
There is so little true reporting anymore…in sports or news journalism. It’s far easier to listen to or read everyone else, distill the narrative, and regurgitate it ad nauseum. (Thank you, thank you …yes I put regurgitate and nauseum merely three words apart.) And, natch, that narrative is so often wrong to begin with…as you so skillfully pointed out.
Great stuff. Thanks for the opportunity to vent.
41-38 !!
Journalism
is one among many tasks, once considered advanced and therefore the domain of the very capable, that have become relatively streamlined, allowing nearly anyone to participate. You no longer need to be especially intelligent to succeed in this world thanks to a competent systematizing of most careers.
by BrooklynHorn on Sep 10, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Rice at home
I would think considering the poor performance texas showed against rice you would be more concerned with the up and coming Wyoming game and the future comparison to BSU playing Wyoming in Laramie, but I digress as only a small corp. CEO I by no means can compare pare my incites to that of new york city attorney.
What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the Ocean
How does that go again …..
Oh yeah a good start .
Go Cowboys!!!!
is that the..
…Dallas Cowboys or the Oklahoma State Cowboys?
by vy til i die on Sep 10, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
That would be the
Wyoming Cowboys, if I was to refer to the others it would be cowgirls.
by Darth Prophet on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
If you WERE to --
you know what, forget it.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well you certainly can't "compare pare" your linguistic ability to that of an NYC attorney...
We generally understand that “incite” is something provocative that you do, whereas “insight” is a perceptive understanding. Then again, while still not grammatically correct, you’re probably more accurate writing “incites” rather than “insights,” considering that trolling is an excellent example of inciting, while you have shown no particular understanding (perceptive or otherwise) of anything you’ve purported to be talking about.
Oh and congrats on being a small corp. CEO. Something like that takes lots of work $200 in filing fees to create your own company and name yourself CEO. And you’d still need a lawyer to do it.
by billyzane on Sep 10, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh you lawyers and you're crazy antics
I chuckled.
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
It's tough to shit-talk someone who does it for a living...
by billyzane on Sep 10, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw his comment when I dropped in this morning
I decided I’d leave it for you. Well done sir.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 10, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
After reading this again I think the best part is "but I digress"
Digress from what? From not speaking?
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Next you'll be speaking Latin
Yeh owning a 13 year old close held corporation that does 15 million a year I’m sure is nothing when compared to a new york city attorney from texas.
Then again I seem to find time to have some fun.

Me with the Gov

A very happy me at Fedex field

Another very happy me in Glenndale

Guess where I am here?

The big house?

Little charter fishing on the Great lakes with the inlaws

A little trip out to the Island
Yeh must suck to have to take a year off your blogg because you work for someone.. I know how hard it is on us small corp guys.
Please let us know the next time you can take your self away from the grind and join us little people at a game.
Responses:
(1) Hahahaha, what??! This isn’t Flickr, man. No one asked to see pictures of your chins. You should spend less time posting personal photos on Texas sports blogs that have absolutely nothing to do with you and more time learning how to write the English language properly.
(2) These pictures indicate that you have left the state of Idaho at least several times. Congratulations.
(3) Oh my god, you got a picture with the governor of a state with 17% of the population of the city I live in? I mean, Butch Otter! THE BUTCH OTTER! Holy shit. You must be important!
(4) I don’t care about you. I am not in a competition with you. I don’t know why you think I am. I responded to you only because I wanted to make a few jokes. Please leave us alone.
by billyzane on Sep 10, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
+1
Darth, in this battle of wits, please dont show up here unarmed again. It’s embarrassing for you.
Does anyone here know how to screenprint these pics onto a roll of toilet paper. Makes we want to wipe.
Donny, you're out of your element.
suffices
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
$15 million isn't cool.
You know what’s cool? $15 billion.
"You never lose a game if the opponent doesn't score." - Darrell Royal
by BMC237 on Sep 10, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I had to Google the Idaho governor because, like most people in the U.S., I had no idea who your governor was. His name is Butch Otter. Wow. What a name.
I have a pic with Rick Perry. (I didn’t want the photo but the guy just got into the shot. Unbelievably rude.)
by dimecoverage on Sep 10, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Had to google the Idaho governor too.
Had no idea they were into electing lesbian aquatic mammals. Why not small business CEOs? They’re the real heroes.
We should have a title that photo contest with his pics.
by dimecoverage on Sep 10, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
So let me get this straight
You’ve been to at least 3 football games AND you take vacations?
Holy shit.
Other Receiving Votes: Oklahoma
by pleaseplaykindle on Sep 11, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
This thread took a turn for Epic Win.
I’m not sure I’ve ever been as proud or as confused about this blog.
proud to swim home

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