Daily Texan: Don't Boo Wyoming
by bassale47 on Sep 9, 2010 8:55 AM CDT
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This was from a Firing Line submission:
Don’t boo Wyoming
In light of the tragic death of a Wyoming football player earlier this week, can we please not boo them when they come out on the field or if they make a decent play or two?
I always feel pity for the students and others that feel the need to boo whenever an opponent comes out of the visitor’s locker room. Why bother in the first place?
On top of that, Wyoming had a lot to deal with, including an away game after something so awful. Just don’t boo.— Creighton Weber
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I have never booed the opposing team, but I agree that it would be in particularly poor taste this weekend. As I understand it, we will be paying tribute to Ruben Narcisse before the game.
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Excellent message
I hope the students take note.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
here's the link
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/content/firing-line-dont-boo-wyoming
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
the student sections in particular boo the opposing team when they run out on the field
They shouldn’t do it this week.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
It's stupid anytime they do it
I really can’t stand booing of the opposing team, unless that team gives specific reason for one to do so. When Kellen Heard took a cheap shot on McCoy, booing would’ve been absolutely justified, even a year or two later if his name were announced in pre-game intros, after making a tackle, etc. Behavior like that warrants boos. But just trotting onto the field? Stupid.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
While I will not boo Wyoming this Saturday night because of the tragedy they have dealt with, I plan to boo every other opposing team. Booing the opposing team coming out of the locker room lets them know from the jump that they will have to deal with the home team crowd noise the entire game. Booing the opposing team is so common in sports that it is not hurtful at all. It’s more like “Hello. Welcome to our house! You will lose now.” I am totally against heckling players, throwing things on the field, or any other hurtful, unsportsmanlike, or mean actions. But come on! How does booing even mildly affect the other team? It’s booing of your own team that concerns me! And there was plenty of that throughout the Major/Simms controversy. And how many of you boo after a bad offensive play call? Or at halftime as your team heads to the locker room? That is what is despicable to me.
I definitely find it to be unsportsmanlike
Booing is appropriate when someone has done something that warrants booing, and is not a default behavior toward an opponent’s mere presence. This is especially true when we’re talking about college kids.
There’s another situation in which booing is appropriate, and it’s at a BYOB melodrama at the Barbary Coast Theatre in Monterey, CA. And probably other melodramas, too.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
why stop at booing at the opposing team?
When members of the UT football squad do somethin stupid….yep…i BOO as well. Even if its my own team. No team is boo-resistant
I hope this is sarcasm....
..otherwise, it’s really dumb to be a fan of anyone. Everyone makes mistakes, nobody’s perfect, and it’s childish to boo your own team just to boo.
I would boo even a Longhorn, but only if it were a serious problem
If I were to see a Horn take a really cheap shot at a defenseless opponent, I might boo, but more likely I’d get really pissed off and begin to dislike him. Similarly, I disliked Larry Johnson for the Chiefs from the moment I heard rumors that they might draft him, and began to really despise and boo him as he pulled more and more childish stunts.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
Everyone makes mistakes. If we arent allowed to have OPINIONS then it wouldnt be a very good discussion blog would it? To say UT played 100% perfect this weekend would be so biased and unruly that its disgusting. As a a student that goes to UT (ive gone to every single hm gm and a coupl of away games), yeah i think i have a right to boo when someone blows coverage or something else. Dont be so uptight, booing to me is very casual, its like who gives a $hit ya know? Lighten up, if someone boos its not a big deal.
I understand..
…getting after players after they make errors, but to boo is just dumb. I can just imagine you standing by yourself booing just to boo. No one will know what the hell you’re booing for. They look at you and think you’re the one that’s taking it too seriously.
100% agree
Hate when people boo the opposing team coming out, hate it more when people boo our own team. Classless.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
We are put as a disadvantage...
If we, the student section you hate because we boo, dont boo, we are put as a disadvantage. Because when we go to other stadiums (See: Texas Tech) they boo the hell outta us. If our football team doesnt care about beeing booed at away games, it shouldnt matter to us as the fans. And on the fact that I’ve booed the Longhorns before, what am i suppose to do when weve made a horrendous play? clap? saying “$hit” or “dammit” has the same connotation.
No disrespect, but as someone who is probably in a different generation, we have different reactions to different things. If i were to curse in the 1800s, i would probably get my mouth washed with soap. If I were to curse now -a-days, my parents dont even notice.
Anyways, this wasnt even the point of this thread. I will NOT be booing the Wyoming players tomorrow at the game!
Stooping to another's level isn't justification
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 10, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
It's called "class"...
…and buying a ticket or being a student or being a “fan” doesn’t justify the behavior. It’s boorish behavior almost every time it’s done (is there a pun there?). “No disrespect” is an interesting choice of words, considering the topic. This thread speaks to the way we welcome players and fans of other teams and universities to our stadium, our behavior is on display. When you boo, you are actually showing disrespect to the values that the University stands for and aspires to; you’re not sitting in front of your TV at home. In addition, you’ve spent a lot of time justifying the behavior with the “everyone does it” argument and, yes, it used to be that people exhibited more class and dignity. “We’re Texas” means that we’re not “everyone else” and we don’t want to be.
You assume wrong
Actually, I graduated from UT 3 years ago. We’re in the same generation. Believe it or not there are many 18-25 year olds who prefer to treat the opposing fans and team with respect. I sit in the student section at my football-mad law school and I don’t like the booing there either. I don’t hate the student section, but I think sometimes members of it go overboard.
Also, by your logic we should throw tortillas and batteries because it happens at Tech so we’re at a disadvantage. Just because other schools do it doesn’t mean we have to stoop to their level. We’re Texas – we prove it on the field, and we’re intimidating enough due to talent. We don’t need to intimidate by booing.
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Might I suggest a better image for you avatar?
See, that makes it all better.
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by Hopkins Horn on Sep 10, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe after Michigan Sucks week is over
Never ask a man if he's from Texas. If he is, he'll tell you soon enough. If he's not, don't embarrass him.
Most of the time, its in good fun
When I was young, my parents used to take me to this melodrama theatre, at which we were encouraged to boo and hiss the villains. I’ve always thought of booing the opponents at a football game much the same way.
Evidence that it really is harmless might be the consistent applause opposing injured players receive when they walk off the field. If there was anything truly mean-spirited about it, then the students would boo then as well (as they do in Philadelphia).
Crap...I thought the melodrama point was going to be original to my post
You beat me to it. “Boooo….hisss!” is fine for melodramas, but I don’t think it’s appropriate when welcoming guests for a sporting contest.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you
There’s booing, and then there’s booing. Though I typically don’t boo myself, a little bit of good-natured, melodramatic booing as a team comes onto a field isn’t that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Hungry Hippos, baby! It's on!
We're Texas!!!!!
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by run Bevo run on Sep 9, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
It happens at every game
The visiting team has the audacity to come out of the locker room for the game, and they get booed for it. I know, I know. It’s just kids being kids. But this week is different.
Nine years ago, we scored 44 points against UNC in honor of Cole Pittman. We, of all fan bases, should be able to handle this with some dignity and respect for a group of kids who just lost someone they considered a brother. That’s all I’m saying.
If it's any consolation
The booing isn’t just restricted to the student section at Michigan. The booing in the Big House is all you can hear during the announcements for the opposing team and when they take the field. I don’t remember that being the case at the only Notre Dame game I went to last year but I’m headed there again this weekend and will take note. It’s probably done in fun for the most part but it’s a lousy tradition.
Good reasons not to boo
1) Aggies boo a lot, and yell things like “you know we hate you, Texas!”
2) We should be good enough that we can look good without verbally deprecating our opponents.
3) Booing reminds me of Aggies, Sucky Sooners, and rude, classless, dusty Sand Aggies.
by MesquiteHorn on Sep 9, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Pardon us
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Call me Un-Classy
But I boo A&M and OU every chance I get. Hell, I boo Aggie and Sooner coworkers when they walk by (happens more than you’d expect in Serbia). Those buffoons have made poor life-choices and need to be reminded of it.
Wyoming, however, doesn’t deserve it.
Your Man In the Balkans
It's obnoxious
Booing is the in stadium version of walking up to a complete stranger whose team your team just beat and yelling scoreboard. Sure, it may be satisfying short term, but you’ll look back at it and realize how much of a dick it makes you look like.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
Apparently,
Mack said on the radio last night that he thought the crowd at Reliant was lackluster and thus he challenged the crowd this Saturday to be a lot crazier and to energize the team. I was told he said it several times.
But then I thought of the memorial we’re having before the kickoff and decided that his request was going to be too awkward for the crowd to negotiate. He certainly knew the circumstances of the weekend when he mentioned it, so it seems a bit odd he would even play that card.
Energized =/= Rude
You can get a stadium REAL loud cheering for a team without booing and being disrespectful to the other team.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
In response to your signature:
The universe would explode.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Worse still
would be if they ended up on the same team. It’s like trying to choose which of your children lives and which dies.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
Re: that
(It’s not)
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
Obviously
I’m just saying that the one game of the season that is going to be preceded by a memorial to someone who is not participating in this game because he recently died is probably not the best week to get on the crowd about being more rowdy.
I love booing. The more hostile a crowd is the better imo.
Sure some people like to roll out the welcome mat and hold hands and be friendly, but that’s not what the game of football is about. It’s violent and the players are expected to carry an aggressive demeanor throughout the game.
Think about some of the most unwelcoming venues in professional sports. Places were players and fans of opposing teams flat out don’t feel comfortable or even safe. Philly, Oakland, Portland and Utah in the NBA. These places are considered some of the toughest places to play for good reason.
If you ever hear a player say, “I hate playing there”, imo those fans are doing their jobs.
Of course that doesn’t mean we should have prison riots every week, but anything to rattle or distract the other team helps.
You don’t rattle someone by clapping for them and handing them a dozen of your mother’s cookies.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Making people afraid to play in or attend games at your venue isn't a good thing
There’s a difference between being loud and just plain acting like a jackass.
Philly and and Raiders fans take note
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just saying the "worst" fans usually make for the best home fields.
Not saying everyone at DKR should start throwing batteries or picking fights in the stands, but a little booing or taunting doesn’t hurt if it can just for a moment throw off the other team.
If you want to boo, fine, if you don’t that’s cool too, but everyone should have the common sense to know when a sporting gesture is appropriate and I’m glad the majority of Texas fans have that.
3/19/2009 & 12/15/2009 - Games Where Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Sure some people like to roll out the welcome mat and hold hands and be friendly, but that’s not what the game of football is about. It’s violent and the players are expected to carry an aggressive demeanor throughout the game.
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I bolded the key word.
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
by burntorangehorn on Sep 9, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
philly and oakland fans
Make me thank God that I was born in Texas. Couldn’t disagree more.
Love the handle though…and some Dogus
The only time I've ever booed....
was at Alabama when they went for the score late in the fourth after they had clearly already won…..
I don't care
It’s gotten to the point lately where if you are up by more than 3 points, people expect you to run the ball up the middle three times and punt to be “fair”. It’s completely bullshit. I expect teams to play to win. Period. If doing so means they score 50 points, great. If it means they score 3 (ROFL Auburn two years ago) cool.
In a national championship game, there is nothing to lose by playing for the full 60 minutes to win the game. It’s about making DAMN SURE you win the game.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
We disagree.
If you can win by taking a knee. take a knee. I am not suggesting that you not play hard when the game is in doubt. But I try to remember, as much as I like to see my team win, that it is a game. it is not war.
Well
I don’t remember well the ending of that game. I was too busy hanging out with my friends Jack and Brandy. If he was still running the ball with Ingram when he could’ve been taking the knee to win, I agree. Take the path of lowest risk to winning a football game. Some of the time it means scoring more and sometimes it means taking a knee if it will end the game.
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
by inVINCEable on Sep 10, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Try this:
They are guests in our home. Cheer as they come on the field and then cheer for your team. Hoot and holler as they play but booing is disrespectful. I would like to be as the Nebraska fans were when Ricky Williams left the field. Respectful. Arch Rivals like OUsux…that is fine. That is part of the rivalry. I sat in the Horseshoe as our team came on the field to play tOSU, I was insulted at the disrespect as they booed. I thought is was fine that they boo anytime U of Mich was mentioned on the scoreboard or by the announcers. That is their rival. But Texas was their guest.
For Wyoming, I would like to see a standing ovation as they enter the field. Then I would like to see a Texas team play their hearts out and beat them on the playing field.
Hook’em
Booing=OU Sucks= 'down horns sign'
All of these can be okay or wrong depending on context. If your playing Texas the ‘horns down’ is okay, if you playing someone else or you do something good it’s irrelevant. If Texas is playing OU, saying OU Sucks is okay. If not it’s the same as throwing the ‘horns down for no reason IMO. If you boo a team to be loud and try to give your your team an advantage it’s okay. If you boo the WY team this week it’s not the right thing to do. I like the standing ovation thought in this case. There’s a time and place for everything I guess.
by soonerspeak on Sep 10, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Good points
Stumpy: It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground. I was bummin' in a hole-in-the-wall town in what is now called "Utah".
Since you brought it up ... & the fact that I'll never catch this segue again ...
I don’t think the Horns down sign (or middle finger IQ addition sign) is rude or offensive or anything … I just think it’s pretty juvenile, classless, negative, and beneath a proud program like OU. Why is this so cool to do by every opponent under the sun now? Can’t they come up with their own? Back a decade or so, it was only displayed at the RRR but now I’ve even seen aggies stooping to this just as much as they do their little nut-holdin’ below the goal post thing. I mean, you don’t see Longhorn fans giving the aggie thumb down, dead Baylor paw, or holstering the raider shooter, do you? Can’t you guys at least come up wth a little wagon & ponies hand sign or something?
I give my parents the "dead Baylor paw"
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