Jeff Grimes Next Texas OL Coach?
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 12:01 PM CST
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PrintIt seemed like only a matter of time. After Bob Bostad dropped out of the race to become the next Texas OL coach after the hiring of Bryan Harsin last Saturday, Auburn OL coach Jeff Grimes has been the leader in the clubhouse, with Oklahoma State OL coach Joe Wickline another possibility.
First, Mack Brown had to wait until after the national championship game to target Grimes and then, as has happened throughout the Texas coaching search, everything went quiet. Frustratingly quiet. Time to get this over with, right?
Well, it looks like the end may finally be in sight more than a month after the retirement of Mac McWhorter. The 247 Auburn site, Auburn Undercover, first reported that Grimes flew into Austin late Wednesday night.
Recruitocosm has been reporting for some time that they believe Grimes will become the next Texas OL coach and the highest-paid coach at his position in college football. No surprise, there, as money has not been an issue for the Longhorns throughout this process.
Of course, there have been false starts before in the search. Former Florida DC Teryl Austin was widely reported to have accepted the Texas DC job before he got cold feet and backed out. When Paul Chryst was in town several weeks ago, he looked close to replacing Greg Davis until his name came up for the vacant Pittsburgh head coaching position.
So which is it this time? The thought here is that Grimes may be ready to leave Auburn because of the possibility of heavy sanctions coming down as a result of the Cam Newton situation. The six talented offensive linemen coming to Texas in the 2011 class probably doesn't hurt the Texas cause either and working with Bryan Harsin and Major Applewhite may actually be nearly as appealing as working with someone as well-respected philosophically as Gus Malzahn.
Given that Christian Westerman has a "very special" relationship with Grimes, if Grimes takes the Texas job, there's little doubt that the talented tackle will indeed honor his commitment to become a Texas Longhorns. And that would be very special news.
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I read on another board that OB is reporting that Grimes is staying another night in Austin.
Has anyone else seen this?
That is the report from OB, correct.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Last time I stopped in Auburn was with some old buddies of mine
who would not consider eating anywhere else but Hooters. Two nights in a row. Yeah, I know, people only go there for the Venn diagrams.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Not going to lie
There are some great places to eat in Auburn. Guthrie’s, CheeBurger CheeBurger, 34 (Barkely’s place). There are some good places. However, they do not have a Juan in a Million so I give the hat tip to Austin.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
When you bring up
Salt Lick and Trudy’s its just not fair.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
Auburn only has a population of 58K
It’s not really a fair contest in any respect (aside from climate).
Mother Fletcher’s is OK, though. It’s surprising, though, that Auburn doesn’t have a famous barbecue joint like Dreamland in Tuscaloosa. You can’t swing a dead cat in this state without hitting a great little barbecue joint.
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
by beast in bama on Jan 13, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
That's true, but y'all do pork and sweet tea
for Brisket you can’t beat Texas.
I didn’t realize Auburn was so small. Our school population is about that size.
We do swine, ya'll do bovine
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
by beast in bama on Jan 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take both...
…and a Sweet Tea w/ unlimited refills.
I am hungry. nt whills
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
this makes it a pretty easy decision for Grimes to leave, then ;)thi
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 14, 2011 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
Been to a few Dreamlands
Tried their chicken, pulled pork and pork ribs. They helped me realize a Texan should never expect BBQ from the South to be like Texas BBQ, specifically Central Texas and more specifically Lockhart. That’s what I try to pattern my own after.
Not knocking Southern BBQ, just sayin’ it’s an altogether different taste experience. I do like the hickory touch on the chicken at Dreamland, they just don’t smoke it long enough.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Dreamland is overrated
You ever been to Cooper’s in Llano? Best. Pork. Chop. Ever.
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
by beast in bama on Jan 13, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
No
I’ve heard a lot about it, though. It’s on my list.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
The Cooper's in Guene...
….needs to be on the list too. The various Cooper’s are owned by family members, but actually compete with each other. The Llano Cooper’s is actually not owned by a Cooper, but used to be. It was sold to the business partner, who manages to do a fine job. :)
The Cooper’s in Round Rock and in Junction are not quite up to the Guene and Llano quality levels.
Gimme.
Can I do that for a coach?
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Why the heck not?
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Please let this one be true
Mainly to get this entire process over with.
"Beautiful despair is hearing Dylan when you're drunk at 3 a.m. Knowing that the chances are no matter what you'll never write like him." Rodney Crowell: Beautiful Despair, 2005.
This would be a huge splash hire....
while I like the the other hires, Oline desperately needs a completely remodel and after watch Auburn’s Oline in the MNC game I have no doubt about Grimes, add in the Westerman angle too and its a slam dunk. Bostad would have been good too but if Westerman wants Grimes and they’re pretty much the same to me then gimme Grimes.
Based on performance of their lines, Bostad seems better
But part of that is probably because Bostad’s stayed in place for longer, so he’s been able to work with his player from cradle to grave (so to speak).
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Westerman aside
Grimes seems like a better fit for this coaching staff. Another young up-and-comer who is not afraid to get underclassmen playing time at the expense of senior experience. He’s sent lots of guys to the NFL and has Texas roots. Gimme.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
and...
he has ties to the state which I don’t think Bostad did.
Bostad’s Oline was impressive but it was against TCU who doesn’t have the level of recruit Oregon has at Dline….in the end I think they are quite comparable but like I said before the Westerman angle seals the deal for me, I have no interest in Wickline…
and.....
it seems to me that Bostad’s coaching consists of giving directions to the training table. Wisconsin’s O-line’s seem to always be HUGE…and don’t do a ton more than firing off straight-ahead. Auburn’s guys seemed to be a bit more nimble with more complex schemes.
41-38 !!
You also have to remember
Auburn’s oline had almost every starter with above 40 starts. That is incredibly impressive.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
And that's all the more reason he might want to leave AU
He’s seen those guys through. On to the next challenge.
One aspect of Auburn’s o-line that I like is their aggressiveness. You could also call it a “mean streak,” which Texas o-lines have been decidedly lacking since ’06.
Whatever you are, be a good one.
Abraham Lincoln
by beast in bama on Jan 13, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Well said.
That is exactly what I and many others have been saying is the missing ingredient.
I'll probably get in trouble for this but...
Gimme some people who quote Conrad Doebler Monday thru Saturday and whatever else they want on Sundays.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
Doesn't Bostad fit the same definition?
He’s also young, an up-and-comer, and has shown no hesitation to give underclassmen playing time. He’s sent guys to the NFL, and has had superior lines at UW.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2011 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
No Texas ties
That’s important, Grimes has been all over Texas. And I don’t know how much Bostad played young guys, I do know Grimes does. Anyway I think the point is moot b/c Bostad no longer seems to be on the short list.
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Does it worry anyone that Grimes is an aggy?
Maybe he has a Manchurian Candidate-type of agenda that will undermine the Horns?
Hah!
I have considered that but maybe he was really doing the same at atm :)
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 13, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Would definitely be a solid hire
On the offenseive side of the ball, I thought michael dyer was the mvp. you don’t get to run the way he did without a strong OL, for sure.
Just going in a completely hypothetical direction, has Shawn Elliot’s name come up at any point? I haven’t had enough time to follow very closely lately, and Marcus Lattimore is definitely special, but I definitely remember seeing some impressive holes opening up watching SC this year.
All that said, if this holds true I’m pretty effin excited.
Aside from coaching for the Horns, Austin is a hard place to resist
Article below from the gawker stats that Austin over the last 3 years has had more 25-34 yr olds come to the city than any other place in the country.
the comments from that article
and really, almost all gawker articles, fill me with a combination of rage, sadness, and defeat.
I guess that goes for youtube, CNN, et al. as well.
A poster on 247 & OB who seems to be pretty tuned in
is reporting that Grimes has been made an offer and is expected to accept. This offer would reportedly make him the highest paid OL coach in the country.
Personal Feature on Grimes
Focuses on his family’s adoption of a Kenyan girl. From Fellowship of Christian Athletes website.
Good news GOBR and posters
The Auburn OL mauled Oregon when the National Championship Game was at it’s most critical.
There have already been several comparisons of MB1 and Marcus Lattimore. If MB1 is to have a Lattimore like effect in 2011, Grimes’ line will be key.
I think with Texas’ offense in it’s infancy under Harsinwhite, a simple Lattimore dominant South Carolina might be the best fit for Texas while the team learns Harsin’s offense.
My hat is off William Mack Brown. Mack took a ton of criticism for not quickly replacing the departing coaches, but he made the best hires he possibly could. Mack was always working on his time frame, not the fan’s. Mack deserves all the credit in the world for taking time, vetting all the candidates and then finding the best fits for Texas.
I believe strongly if the Grimes hire goes down, Texas has assembled one the best coaching staffs in college football.
I won’t make predictions for next season and the future, but Texas has taken the right steps forward.
I’m optimistic again. Almost all the dead weight is gone. I hope Brian Davis leaves for Florida. Hook ’em.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 13, 2011 1:17 PM CST reply actions
I'm still worried about out TE's coach...
Chambers hasn’t had much success since he took over that role…maybe having Harsin on board (a former TE coach) will improve that position too…
I think they kept Chambers
because they wanted some continuity in recruiting (he’s co-recruiting coordinator) and probably figured that the problem with the tight end position has been more about injuries than poor coaching.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed Tower
Chambers at this point in his career is a much better recruiter than a teacher. I hope Harsin has plenty of input in the teaching and development of the TEs.
I don’t think Chambers should leave the staff, but a recruiting coordinator position would probably fit Bruce’s skill set better.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 13, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
He is already recruiting coordinator.
There aren’t really enough spots to have a separate recruiting coordinator (unless you have DEs and DTs coached by the same person) so Mack puts the recruiting coordinator in the least important position coach spot, tight ends.
Director of HS relations does recruiting too....
he could have that position if he’s better than Ken Rucker and we could find a good TE coach…
Rucker Doesn't Recruit
He was only allowed to recruit after all the coaches quit because we didn’t have enough coaches to go out and recruit. There is a maximum number of coaches you’re allowed to recruit.
But wouldn't it make sense to move Chambers back to RBs coach, maybe?
I haven’t seen much to indicate that Harsin’s all that good at coaching TEs, but that is the position he coached. I wouldn’t think he could do any worse.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Kyle Efaw, the Boise State tight end,
has more than 1,000 yards receiving and six touchdowns for his career, this coming from a guy who was a two-star, 200-pound recruit out of high school. Don’t you think Texas would have taken that out of their tight ends cumulatively after the injury to Blaine Irby?
EBS, by the way, had 112 yards for his career and most of them seemingly came on third down well short of the marker. In fact, looking more at the numbers, the second and third-string TEs for Boise each had more yards receiving and more touchdowns this season than EBS.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
But GoBR
Those short throws to EBS on 3rd and 5+ were safe and got us positive yardage…so it was a successful play! We gained yardage and didn’t commit a turnover = positive.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
3-yard throws on 3rd & 5 = 4th down
My sarcasm meter caught that.
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See ya later, alligator.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 13, 2011 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously that would've represented a huge improvement over what Texas has produced at TE
However, Efaw has never had Harsin as a position coach.
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think the lack of success
at TE has much more to do with being snake bit at the position than a failure on Chambers part to coach them up. Also, Scaife and Thomas are much different athletes from the flex guys that we have been recruiting.
"I want to be remembered as the guy who gave his all whenever he was on the field."
-Walter Payton
TE Coach doesn't do much
Its where you stick a guy like Chambers or Brewster in the past that brings more to the program and you need a position for him (Like Applewhite with RBs).
TEs spend half their time drilling with the OL and the other half drilling with the WRs.
Aside from making sure they know their plays, TEs learn their technique from either the OL drills or the WR drills.
Lattimore
Is a nice RB…i like the way he runs.
Give and harsin/major a good RB and god knows what they can do with play action and misdirection type of plays
Dj monroe better sleep at harsin’s house during spring practice
by jtdiddy on Jan 13, 2011 1:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Traylon Shead
I am ready to see what he can do. He became a favorite of mine when he gave Gov. Perry the Hook ’em Horns sign right to his face.
GOBR is Texas trying to become the SEC Southwest?
Aside from the Wyatt and Harsin hires, all of the coaching hires are from SEC programs. I know it’s not a coincidence, but is Mack making a concentrated effort to make Texas into a SEC type program?
Has Mack ever said anything publicly about this? Have sources within the program stated that this is where the program is headed? Thanks.
by billfromlaketravis on Jan 13, 2011 1:31 PM CST reply actions
Mack hasn't said anything publicly about wanting to be more like the SEC
If anything, he may want the perceived toughness of SEC football, but really I think it was more of a coincidence. Obviously, hiring from the Nick Saban coaching tree makes a lot of sense and Davis has the Texas connection from his time at North Shore. Same thing with Wylie, who is from Texas, and Grmes, who is as well. I think Mack knew that his DC and OC wouldn’t have in-state connections, so he targeted coaches who did so that when 2012 recruiting gets serious here in about a month, the assistant coaches that form the backbone of his recruiting efforts won’t be walking into high schools as complete outsiders. To me, that’s what the assistant coach hires have been about more than anything. And, of course, Grimes is far from official at this point, just as a reminder.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
We alway go for the top coaches many of which are in the SEC...
I don’t think it means we want to be like the SEC but obviously we do appreciate their dominance in football over the last few years and believe they do a good job a finding a developing coaching talent. Remember we took both Muschamp and Chizik from Auburn way back when…
Of course, there have been false starts before in the search
+1 for that clever pun
by goingforthecorner on Jan 13, 2011 1:54 PM CST reply actions
Ha! I can assure you it wasn't intended.
But now that you mention it, I’m experiencing some PTSD related to the 2010 football season. It’s 2nd and 3 and oh crap, the senior left tackle just had a false start, killing another drive. I need help.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 13, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
I have found a sideways pass to the bar coupled with a bubble screen to the sofa works wonders.
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by OnMySignal on Jan 13, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I would be interested in knowing how many false starts we've had in the red zone the last 2 years.
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Lets get Grimes....!!!
You cant beat the mug on rivals!??!?! The dude has a black eye, tough OL coach baby!!!!
Anyone else think that Westerman's visit to Auburn
Was merely so that Westerman could meet his new OL coach at Texas?
I've been to Garland.
It does not necessitate four exclamation points.
by billyzane on Jan 13, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
@Zane!!
I have been there too, nothing to write home about!!! LOL!!! Just saying that the guy is a texan and we are bringing him back home!!!!!
by TexasStateHorn on Jan 13, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Beergutted
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Better than Waco.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure that's the standard Garland should aspire to.
New Motto:
“Garland, we’re better than Waco!”
But it works.
What we have here is a failure to execute.
by dimecoverage on Jan 13, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
"And it may look like zombies destroyed it, but that's actually just Garland."
Just Harsin around.
by burntorangehorn on Jan 13, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No presser today?
What up, Mack?
See ya later, alligator.
Yeah. I haven't seen anything new in the Auburn papers either. I keep waiting for a confirmation
so I can return to my life. Basketball and football offseason
I don't like the sound of that.
See ya later, alligator.
by Paleface Horn on Jan 14, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
agreed...
not the normal one and done kind of feel to it
by orangetower on Jan 14, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
according to that flight log the plane Grimes was only in Austin 3 hours
Is that normal? I would think they would spend the whole day together if it was a true “interview” and not a done deal, but I have neve looked at the length of "interviews’ before. Is this normal or how long do coaches usually visit on interviews?
Grimes flew in Wednesday night
and flew out Thursday night. Apparently he met with the Texas coaching staff on Thursday afternoon.
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by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jan 14, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions
That makes a lot more sense
I guess that isn’t his flight plan linked above because it showed the plane in Austin on 13-Jan-2011 from 7:06 pm to 10:13 pm. Guess someone just flew “private” into town for a good dinner. I have friends that do that – must be nice.
I have enemies that do that :) nt
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2011 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
They also had an update$ on Tevin Jackson
Anything to that?
We have a 12th man and he's Bryan Harsin
by SpiritOfTheFedora on Jan 14, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Outlook is not looking good for him to return in the spring.
Seems like NCAA is shuffling its feet on his reinstatement.
ATX
That isn't good
Would think if he wanted it the deal would have been sealed.
It would be just like Mack to refuse to take an immediate accpetance to prevent buyer’s remorse. No, no…think on it.
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