Further Analysis of the Texas Longhorns TV Deal With ESPN
Now that the dust has settled--and the pundits have spoken--the narrative for the ESPN/Texas TV deal is largely written. And that narrative is "Mo' Money." Which, to be honest, is pretty awesome. However, while we all celebrated what this TV deal means for Texas in another post, I think it deserves a second post with a bit more discussion and analysis. Luckily, we've got a couple of writers who have been following this issue and wanted to provide some thoughts.
Naturally, I think this deal is a pretty big home run for Texas--at least in the short and medium term--but I wanted to highlight a few issues related to this story. For the most part, these issues go beyond rehashing the sticker shock reaction of "OMG! 300 million! THREE HUNDRED MILLION!" that occurred across the country. For one thing, Texas is "only" guaranteed $247.5 million. For another thing, I think the ripple effect of the money is perhaps the more important story. I don't think any of these issues are necessarily groundbreaking, but they are the ones that stick out to me as being somewhat overlooked in the overall analysis of this TV deal.
1) What will be the short-term and long-term actions taken by Texas A&M?
Txtwstr7: To me, A&M could be the whole key to the stability of the current arrangement. When I heard the final news--and saw the final figures--I was immediately curious as to how OU and A&M would respond. Everyone else in the conference (except maybe Mizzou--see below) doesn't really have enough stroke to make any legitimate noise or create a similar network. OU quickly announced their own upcoming network, but A&M is seemingly banking on Beebe's promise and a potential conference network. If the OU/TX TV deals put a wrench in any Big12 Network--as some have speculated--then what does A&M do?
The general consensus is they will be forced to stay put--even if they wanted to leave--but I'm not so sure that's the case. If they can't get the $20+ million payout in a long-term deal, can't create their own network, and aren't going to be a part of a Big 12 Network, then is it still a slam-dunk that they stay put? I understand the argument that the legislature would never let them leave. In fact, I think it's still fairly unlikely that they do leave. However, if the aforementioned situation comes to pass, their financial disparities with TX/OU would be staggering, and it could give them a decent argument for why they need to jump ship. And, if they do, it's not like they are an easily replaceable commodity. Are the Aggies pretty much locked into the conference, or should Texas fans monitor their levels of dissatisfaction?
Hopkins Horn: My attitude about A&M and realignment remains the same: stay, go, whatever, I don't give a f*ck. There's no chance they'll get the same money from their own network, and they know it. A move to the SEC, even if they still have that alleged standing invitation to join the conference, would still leave A&M behind Texas financially. So Aggie will do what Aggie does best: bitch and moan and not do a damn thing to better its own situation. But if they do get a golden ticket to the SEC, whatever, go. To be honest, a large part of my indifference to an Aggie move to the SEC stems from my discounting supposed recruiting advantages A&M, or the whole damn SEC, would receive if the Aggies headed east. Texas is a huge state, and we'll always get our share. The rest have to wind up somewhere, whether it's OU or A&M or LSU or wherever. So, again: leave, stay, I don't give a f*ck.
Learned Hand: I showed up late to the party, but I'll give it the old college try. I think A&M missed the boat by not trying to form a Texas Network with UT and Tech. Institutionally, they're a conservative lot, which is all well and good, but the pace of these deals seems to repeatedly catch them off guard. If I'm right that we're seeing the beginning of a "divide and conquer" strategy by the T.V. networks, A&M needs the cachet the Texas brand has become, at least in the short term. In the short term, I see more flirtation with the SEC and a great deal of sound and fury signifying nothing. In the longer term, I expect them to exert pressure, along with Tech, to join what Texas started. Keep an eye on your legislators.
2) Could Missouri actually be the first team to jump ship?
Txtwstr7: I almost skipped this section, but I think Missouri is being overlooked in the fallout of this deal. And, after what happened in the Realignment Chronicles, I get that. They talked big, but they were forced to stay put. However, while Missouri isn't a big dog in the conference, they aren't exactly a kitten, either. First off, Missouri is becoming increasingly competitive in the two "money" sports. Second, the state contains the St. Louis TV market and has lots of eyeballs. Third, they don't have any political baggage from a sister school. Unlike basically every other school in the conference, they are truly a standalone university who won't be forced to bring another less desirable dance partner to the table.
As mentioned above, we know that Missouri wasn't happy in the "old" Big 12. I mean, their football coach and governor came out and said as much while they were throwing themselves at the Big Ten. And all that went down *before* TX/OU cut side deals for their own networks that would leave the other schools further in the financial dust. Missouri got embarrassed in the Realignment Chronicles--badly--but they may be the only other school (besides A&M) who might be an attractive option to another money conference. Is Missouri being overlooked as a potential sleeping giant in this whole ordeal, or are they still hopelessly tied to the Big 12?
Hopkins Horn: I remember seeing an article during all the realignment madness that indicated that Mizzou was also looking at its own network. I'm not quite sure they're a sleeping "giant," but they're one of those schools that has historically underperformed its potential. A Maryland of the Midwest, if you will. But I don't think they're a flight risk quite yet. The only logical conference for them to move to which would also be a step up is the Big 10, and I don't think the Big Ten would risk ripping apart the Big 12 if there were any chance that would force us to the Pac 12. The Big Ten definitely got the better of the Pac 10 in each conference's move to 12 schools. We might have reached an equilibrium point with realignment for a while.
Another interesting question to ponder: the Pac 10 seemed to reach out to Colorado last summer as a way of keeping Baylor out of the mix. After we turned down the conference, they settled on Utah for a twelfth. In retrospect, if the Pac 10 knew that we were ultimately unobtainable, would the conference have even invited Colorado or would it have stayed at 10?
3) How will Texas exploit its unique relationship with the UIL?
Txtwstr7: Until a few months ago, I didn't realize that UT had such a unique relationship with the UIL. According to state law, the UIL is actually a part of the University of Texas. So, yeah, that's a pretty big deal, and it provides an endless source of potential content. In fact, I think the potential inclusion of UIL events might be the most underrated aspect of this TV deal.
As the linked article explains, the Longhorn Sports Network could televise Texas high-school football games on both Thursday and Saturday nights. It could also televise all non-championship football playoff games. But this barely even scratches the surface of the potential UIL content. The network could televise other high school sports outside of football, in addition to selectively televising some marquee state academic competitions. While I don't think the network should stray too far from the Texas brand, using UIL content seems like a slam-dunk. The possibilities here are endless, but will they be properly exploited?
Hopkins Horn: Heh. I like going after you, as it makes my job easier if you hit the salient points first.
Will the relationship with the UIL be properly exploited in terms of having sych must-see TV as a Game Of The Week and being the exclusive home of the championship games? It very well damn better be, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't be.
Learned Hand: I have nothing to add. I am, however, stocking up on popcorn and awaiting the impending meltdowns from Lubbock and College Station.
4) The Cable Fees Fights for Out-of-State Subscribers
Txtwstr7: As I'll be stationed in D.C. for the next few years, this subject is near and dear to my heart. Unfortunately, it is also largely outside my working knowledge of the situation. Do you have any thoughts on how the network will operate out-of-state? If it simply means paying an extra $2/month or so, that's a pretty easy sell to potential out-of-state subscribers. But will it be that simple? Or can we safely pencil in nasty fights with the cable companies that will prevent a bunch of people from seeing a football game and eight basketball games next year?
Hopkins Horn: This is just pulling things out of my ass, but I imagine some nationwide providers (DirecTV and Time Warner most likely, in my estimation) will play ball pretty easily, and others (Comcast) won't. I think it's a near-certainty that, at the time of the first game on lSN, that we'll see some bitching this fall from some out-of-state BONers that they can't see the game, while other out-of-state fans will have access in their living rooms.
One interesting issue: would UT and ESPN decide to put the more attractive game with BYU, a school with a nationwide following, instead of the weaker Rice game on LSN to force more pressure on OOS providers to pick up the network? There'd be a lot more pressure on Utah (and, to a lesser extent, Vegas and Phoenix) cable providers to pick up the network if that happened. If I were a betting man, I'd wager we'll see the debut of LSN for the BYU game for that very reason.
Learned Hand: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this covers certain internet broadcast rights, and thus there may be a single pricing tier for internet TV viewing. If there's anything akin to ESPN 3, even on a subscription basis, I'm in. Actually, I'm in anyway, even though I see no chance whatsoever in this being a purely al la carte purchase.
5) The Fluidity of the Long-Term Profit Sharing Under the Agreement
Txtwstr7: As everyone knows, 20 years is a long time. We know that Texas will receive about $10 million/year over the first 5 years, and that the contract has some flexibility built in to account for new profits. However, I don't think anyone has nailed down the exact amount of flexibility involved. If this thing turns into a major cash-cow and dramatically exceeds expectations, how much bigger of a piece will Texas take under the agreement? I feel pretty confident that we covered our bases in this deal. However, since ESPN is fronting so many of the start-up costs--and giving us a high guaranteed figure--are we accepting and perhaps even embracing the risk that we'll be dramatically underpaid 10-15 years down the line?
Hopkins Horn: This is getting beyond my pay grade, but I would put some faith in those negotiating the deal for us (and for ESPN, for that matter) to have built in some protections if this starts going either extremely north or extremely south. If it goes north, then we're going to make even more money. If it goes South, then what have we really lost? The revenue from one weak OOC game and eight weak OOC men's hoops games? We'll still be getting money from the conference's football deal, whatever conference that may be. Seems like a pretty risk-free proposition for us.
Learned Hand: We can safely assume there is a strong likelihood that the success of this venture will be known in the 5 year guaranteed period, and reasonable odds both sides will want to renegotiate. There is a substantial portion of the contract going directly to academics, an area that is being hit in the current Texas budget crunch. UT has found a new and innovative way to defray academic costs without the use of tax dollars, and I fully expect the legislature to try to leverage that solution onto other "suitable" schools (A&M and possibly Tech and U of H). I also would expect change in market clauses that would allow both sides to return to the table in certain other circumstances (e.g. Fox-USC for 10 years and 300 million dollars), that alleviate my concerns about Texas being relatively underpaid in the next decade.
6) What Game Will be the "One Football Game Per Year" Under the Agreement?
Txtwstr7: I think this is an interesting question, and one made even more interesting by the fact that our non-conference schedule is booked solid for the first few years of the contract. I would imagine that the "one televised football game per year" will not be a conference game. That really narrows down the options, and it really sets the stage for my main question here. If the game will likely be a non-conference game, is it going to be one of the marquee non-con matchups slated through 2017? Going a step further, was agreeing to put those games on the network a key component of this deal? For example, will the Texas channel be the only way some people can see Texas/ND? Or should we all just expect to see Texas/ISU or Texas/Rice on the network every year?
Hopkins Horn: I wouldn't be so sure that it won't be a conference game once the conference-wide contracts are renegotiated. That will be a very interesting thing to watch. In the interim, I have to imagine that most, if not all, of the sweep of non-conference deals reached over the past few months will have provisions allowing us to show the game on LSN. ND and USC might be the exceptions, but I don't think it's silly to think that the ND home games could be on LSN. And, to be honest, I don't know if anyone involved with the network knows yet, as there are several years to see how the network will play out, but I doubt anyone would unequivocally say "no" to such a proposition today. Also remember that the language, as I saw it, isn't that we'll show one game a year on the new network. It's that we'll show "at least" one.
Another issue is that one must assume that Texas (or any other conference school, for that matter) has the right to tell an existing conference television broadcast partner "no" when that partner tries to select a game for broadcast. One can make this assumption because Texas would have no way to guarantee that it would be able to show "at least one" game a season if all Fox (the scorned partner) had to do to scuttle those plans is select both the Rice and BYU games for showing on FSN.
The idea of a school vetoing being selected for television has been largely a theoretical one until now (why wouldn't anyone not want to be selected?!?), but now Texas will have quite the incentive at least once, if not twice, a season to discourage Fox/FSN from selecting its games. What will this do to the overall value of the conference's television package[s] in the next negotiations if all potential non-ABC/ESPN partners know that one or two Longhorn games will be unavailable?
Update: As this neared publication, I raised this issue on Frank's blog, and a couple of knowledgeable board members chimed in and indicated that Texas probably doesn't have veto rights but that, instead, ESPN will probably use the games it sublicenses from FSN to pick the 1+ games to be moved to the new network. If that explanation is the correct one, then I don't know why that 1+ games couldn't be a conference game. I think I'd been focusing too much on the assumption that it would be the PPV-quality games which would make their way to the new network, but now I'm not convinced that's the case. And I cannot recall, in any off the official announcements, any sort of "OOC" qualifier for which 1+ games will be shown. Perhaps an enterprising reporter can get some clarification?
7) What is a key aspect of this deal that hasn't been previously addressed?
LearnedHand: I do have one question that I want to kick around, and that is: "Is ESPN Changing the Game?" I think ESPN sees some value in trying to change the way it does business away from conference networks/contracts and this may be the first big step.
With the exception of the SEC, I think conference loyalty tends to be a bit of a myth. Fans are typically happy to see their own school, and it's essentially guaranteed that they will pay some premium to ensure that content out of state. With that as a given, the current scheme of conference packages results, to some extent, in significant, margin killing overpayment so that schools like Northwestern/Baylor/Vanderbilt can be paid at a rate sufficient to keep tOSU, Florida and Texas happy. The program network can do a few different things on this front, and at its ultimate form could drastically reduce the cost of signing a conference, if a series of side deals are cut with the individual universities - getting closer to FMV for each school. It could, potentially, nullify the threat of things like the Big Ten network. Downstream, it may decouple negotiations from the conferences, e.g. an ESPN network carrying Texas (and possibly one day A&M and Tech) or USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford with a staggered contract could largely negate the leverage of the other schools in the conference. Call it divide and conquer, or call it University related union busting, but I think this deal means a lot on the grand stage.
Hopkins Horn: That's a great point. Coming out of this deal, what needs to be followed closely is OU's attempt to form its own network. They've already announced their plans to give it a go, which is a pretty interesting development to this story. (Again, I find myself admiring the Sooner approach while mocking A&M's.) If the Sooner Sports Network forms quickly, with a major partner (ESPN or Fox unless someone else like Comcast wants to jump in), for pretty good bucks (not what we got, but substantial nonetheless given the smaller market), then I think we can say that we've just witnessed a game-changer rather than a Texas-sized one off.
Txtwstr7: LearnedHand eloquently stated something I've tried to explain to my friends. We've been largely focused on our own plight, but the potential ramifications of this deal's success are much, much larger. I think the most likely scenario here is that ESPN wants to see if individualized networks are the natural progression from the massive financial success the Big Ten Network. And, if that's their endgame, then how better to test drive this hypothesis than by using the University of Texas as the guinea pig?
Anyways, those are our thoughts, for better or worse...what say the BON Community?
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One for each of you. Fantastic read. And VERY thought-provoking discussion.
LH, that last point about overpaying for the margins is brilliant.
Great job, guys.
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something I posted on jesus' site and remains relevant to this conversation as well
There are already talk that Direct TV is looking at it costing at a min of $0.25 a month for subscriber fees in the Tex/OK/LA proposed broadcast areas. I expect it to reach the 0.33 plateau in some areas with the 0.25 as the worst case scenario floor.
If this holds true and ESPN with their contingency clauses in the current cable provider contracts can push this to 80% of the expected market you are looking at around 7 to 8 M cable subscriber. That amounts to $21M to $24M annually. That does not include the out of area subscriber revenue as a premium channel, advertising revenue and the associate bump in both merchandising revenue and the potential to sell air time to other entities.
Lets not forget that the entire B10N pay outs over 60M to the Big 10 with a 50/50 split with Fox. With an eligible subscriber base of 72M. ESPNUT will have a base of approximately 30. Prorated that once again falls in the sweet spot of $25M.
The conspiracy theory articles about the financial viability of the proposed network and the fact that it is a "bribe" or over payment to "protect against superconfrences" fail to actually sit there and run the numbers. Yes the new deal does make it unlikely that UT goes to a new conference, but ESPN is not doing this deal for those motives. This is going to make money, and lots of it.
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You did a great job highlighting stuff...
…on the main LSB thread over this topic.
Any other overarching thoughts?
This is less about $$ and more about exposure.
The TV revenue will probably be minimal compared to the expected spike seen in the merchandising revenue.
Watch and see what direction is taken with the academic content. See if it is used as a carrot so to speak for upcoming cutting edge research or used as a reward for tenure or is it purely used to entertainment purposes.
OU and UT’s programming will launch within weeks of each other. The difference in approaches will be interesting to follow.
Don’t be surprised to see the the providers in Texas add the channel with minimal fuss. The biggest area to really follow is within the Big 10 and Pac-12 footprints. If it meets some form of success there, the rest of the big population centers will probably have it as well.
A&M is in a real bad spot with this. The capital investment to upgrade all of the facilities at the infrastructure level to be able to maintain a venture like this, outside of the production and programming capabilities, will be a major drain on the already taxed AD budget. They really don’t have a lot of options until their AD budget gets fixed.
Don’t be surprised to see a TT/A&M/Baylor/OSU channel be discussed and dragged out until fall 2012 if not later. Same with KU/KSU and potentially a deal for Missouri.. ISU is just happy to be invited to the dance.
Watch out for Fox, not FSN, in the next round of Big 12 TV deal talks. Fox and ESPN will both be interested and watch and see on Comcast/NBC. The ND deal is up in 2015 and a switch over isn’t likely but a combination of coverage could be possible if NBC wants into the college football pie. The TV deals are as much about timing as they are about content.
I would be interested to see what happens with the UIL and UT. The NCAA can’t force UT not to show the UIL games due to the antitrust ruling. Will the state sever the relationship? It might be more beneficial for both parties in the long run to sever and negotiate a deal. The UIL staff at UT already costs approximately 4M and the broadcast rights to the 20 or so non playoff games that would be shown are probably not worth that.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
"Uhmmm... Where are the boobs? AceJC
Feel better now? laxtonto
You were just lying in the weeds... waiting for your chance, weren’t you? ghostofErikThompson
This is like a sniper, waiting in a ghillie suit for the perfect time to strike. FistOfJamieBenn
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by laxtonto on Jan 21, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Very interesting take...
Glad I asked.
My initial take was that the UIL Broadcasts would ultimately be a boon for the network. The content is definitely a slam-dunk, IMO. Especially if some of the televised games just so happen to involve UT recruits. I mean, who wouldnt have wanted to watch Malcolm Brown or Garrett Gilbert during their senior seasons? But I could definitely be wrong about the finances involved with such an arrangment.
Very well done.
You gentlemen get a rec. I shall be sharing this with my facebook friends.
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Great stuff, guys
LH: I think you covered this in one of the latter points, but could you simplify — dumb down for this dummy, maybe with an example — what you mean by If I’m right that we’re seeing the beginning of a “divide and conquer” strategy by the T.V. networks . . .
I have a feeling this does not bode well for the college game as we know it, though as Texas we have a chance to drive the bus and not just accept a seat on the bus.
Thanks, glad you like it
To elaborate on that point (partly because I want to distinguish this from the "ESPN was trying to kill a super-conference" meme and partly because I didn’t explain it well above – and maybe not below either).
I officially forgive my old economics profs for their crappy examples but we’ll try this.
The conferences, as currently constructed, are not created to maximize revenue for media networks. The problem that these conferences present is that they bargain collectively, and they tie high value clients (Texas) to negligible value clients (e.g. Iowa State). So in order to pen a deal that ensures Texas will be adequately compensated in a collective bargaining situation, the media networks have to overpay for Iowa State. The SEC deal is a tremendous example, because billions were not spent for Vanderbilt, but because of equal revenue sharing in the conference, Vanderbilt had to be compensated like Alabama. The Big 12 is an unequal revenue share conference, but not as unequal as the underlying economic realities – one in which ESPN couldn’t extract full value out of Texas (the Big 12 deal + the ESPN UT deal), without grossly overpaying the marginal value of Iowa State (For ESPN ISU or what have you) in a collective bargaining situation.
The solution, in this instance, is to get one of the high value clients to negotiate away from the table. This makes perfect economic sense, even if some may find it distasteful. (A lot of dialogue that doesn’t belong on this blog regarding unions could be analogized here). The issue for conferences and college football is that the vast majority of BCS teams have more in common with Iowa State than Texas. Should such maneuvering become common place, BCS teams will start to be paid more in accordance with their underlying economic value, which is great for ESPN/Fox and the high value schools, but less so for the majority of college football teams.
And this is where my change the game metaphor comes into play. Whereas it probably wouldn’t be possible to divide the schools on the conference level, or the conference network level (See Big 10 network), dividing by school via a unique network has come naturally enough.
And you’re right, if my instinct is even close to right it bodes poorly for the college game as we know it.
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by learned hand on Jan 21, 2011 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
More than a guinea pig, this may be a model for a state umbrella network.
Bear with me a minute. While A&M, Tech and Baylor may have obstructive problems with finances and infrastructure, Texas could be a model for a separate Texas state network to cover all of them at once, taking the best from each (high impact value) until they are built up to stand on their own.
This could even cover more state financed schools (both system like UTSA, Pan Am, UT-Commerce, UTEP at the upper level and Texas State, Sam Houston, et. al. at the lower end). The UT structure could help on the production end (for a share or as a direct cost), while the members of that network have their cut to defray their costs and invest in infrastructure with some residual profit in the early years. Texas, California and Florida are unique in the size and wide-spread scale of their systems. Few others would have the wealth of content to do this.
The UIL was put under UT control because high school football was getting out of control, particularly with regard to recruiting…this was 1927 if I remember correctly…and to create a fair playoff structure. Being centrally located and having an Athletic Department structure and bureaucracy, UT was a natural…and it kept politicians at arm’s length. This also included academics as well as sports (academic competition is generally free).
Part of UIL’s funding is from the University via the state but the other is through a percentage of playoff gates (15% was old rate; that may have changed). So, extra income would be welcome to keep their bureaucracy technologically up to date and to expand with schools. Plus, there was a move this year to incorporate officials into the UIL in some manner (officials are a separate entity via independent chapters and thus there is sometimes a problem with control and consistency of calls between chapters, to be diplomatic [see Kerrville state girls basketball final in the early 2000s where the official was banned for life, she essentially threw the game via foul calls]).
On any given HS weekend there are dozens of marquee games; it is a value rich environment. With some 1,200 schools, exempting a few games – especially high profile where attendance would be strong – might be an easy jump (the non-Friday night broadcast rule was created so ensure attendance). So far, FxSSW and local TV stations have only picked the low hanging fruit…this area could be done so much better.
While many non-major sports, whether college or HS, don’t seem to have much dynamic from the overview, the key is info about the athletes themselves (which NFL and college commentators and talk radio now run into the ground) and a better visual dynamic and close-up action (TV golf and tennis are good examples of basically boring overview taken to a better visual and flow-of-action dynamic). As far as I’m concerned, even basketball broadcasts can be vastly improved…the top down look gives the overall but sucks for individual play because the cinematographers can’t handle it consistently (not enough cameras, not enough game knowledge in most cases).
I went long merely to supplement the idea that while the present focus will be on the LHN in its infancy, with football as the herd leader, the dynamics and structure of this could have ramifications well beyond the Big 12 in our unique state situation. ESPN will essentially taking over the role of publishing houses or even better, major film distributors, in the long run, with production ability being the key to getting that in position until in-house productions reach a professional standard and the content allocation finds a workable balance within the market.
Great work guys…lot of angles to all of this.
Ok, lets see....
We made $65M from 08 to 09….
Oklahoma made $21M… A&M 22M… Colorado 14M… OSU 14M….
Will this deal will mean we’re about as profitable as the top 4 teams, besides Texas, of the Big 12 put together?
I think so.
Awesome article
My assumption would be that the channel will be on the sports package outside of whatever the local market will be
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jan 21, 2011 5:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Awesome article
My assumption would be that the channel will be on the sports package outside of whatever the local market will be
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by Jeremy Mauss on Jan 21, 2011 5:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Worth reading....
OU football: Will Texas network hurt?
Down played the effects on football but a nice piece.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
"Uhmmm... Where are the boobs? AceJC
Feel better now? laxtonto
You were just lying in the weeds... waiting for your chance, weren’t you? ghostofErikThompson
This is like a sniper, waiting in a ghillie suit for the perfect time to strike. FistOfJamieBenn
This result was the most obvious thing in the history of the internet. Aquaman, Esq. " 1-11-11
From the comments on Frank's blog...
…a detailed explanation on how the Big 12 TV contracts works in terms of which games get on which networks.
To be filled in later.
BEST part of that article:
Finally, this is a landmark deal for ESPN for a separate reason:
(1) ESPN
(2) ESPN2
(3) ESPN3
(4) ESPNU
(5) ESPN News
(6) ESPN Classic
(7) ESPN Deportes
(8 ) ESPN UT
The Ocho has finally arrived.
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You forgot questions #8 and #9
Is it forgone conclusion that UT goes independent now?
Does this network signal the end of the Big 12-2 that was probably already doomed to begin with?
Extra Credit: Who would win a cat fight between Mrs. Harsin and Mrs. Applewhite on a very special episode of, “Desperate UT Coach’s Wives?”
Answer: The Viewers, Reoowww!
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Easy answers
No, not in the foreseeable future
Not in the least
The powers that be said that they will never go indy on their watch and with this type of deal there is no a reason to. UT gets all the benefits of being indy with none of the problems. A complete win win from the UT prospective.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
"Uhmmm... Where are the boobs? AceJC
Feel better now? laxtonto
You were just lying in the weeds... waiting for your chance, weren’t you? ghostofErikThompson
This is like a sniper, waiting in a ghillie suit for the perfect time to strike. FistOfJamieBenn
This result was the most obvious thing in the history of the internet. Aquaman, Esq. " 1-11-11
I agree entirely
Very well stated, yet again.
To be filled in later.
by Hopkins Horn on Jan 21, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed on the independence concept
What would be the point? We’re gonna collect (very long) green, along the lines of what an independent could. Plus, we have a set schedule and a BCS guarantee if we win the conference.
Given today’s math, we have nine “no-brainer” games on a 12-game schedule set. That means no negotiations, no home-and-home or 2-for-1 bargains need be made — those nine conference games are set in stone. And, for most of the next decade, we have the three non-cons set as well.
As an indy, we’d have only those three plus — surely — OU and A&M and probably Tech and likely Baylor. Then, we’d have 4-5 holes to fill and, inevitably, some of those would have to be against the likes of Louisiana Directional, Florida Directional, Tulane, New Mexico State, etc.
Good stuff especially on the UIL connection
I think you found the loop hole regarding the UT network airing high school events. The NCAA prohibits this relationship (they also prohibit Cecil Newton’s actions too) but state law should trump NCAA regulation.
As I have written previously on this topic, I think Texas needs to add more sports to create more programing. Cross country meets are dull unless you are a participant. How many people will watch track and field meets? Swimming and diving?
The Big 10 conference is moving toward adding men’s and women’s ice hockey as conference sports because men’s ice hockey will generate viewership on the Big 10 Network.
Also, I think the UT network will generate sales in out of state or out of area locations because of the size of the UT alumni. I am not sure how much sales revenue an OU network will generate because I do not think there are as many Sooner Exs outside the Oklahoma and Texas area.
To that end, will the UT network be available as a separate channel like the Tennis Channel or will it be bundled in the sports packages that typically include regional sports networks?
Additional sports
Your point about the Big 10 adding hockey fot the sake of driving viewership on BTN is an interesting one. I’ve wondered if the need for content on LSN would lead UT to consider adding additional varsity teams, like men’s soccer and women’s lacrosse or gymnastics, despite the university’s long-standing conservatism in this area. (Note: Title IX concerns are acknowledged.)
If we did add a men’s soccer team, for example, its players would instantly be on national television more frequently than players at any other school in the country, with the possible exception of Big 10 teams. It serms like that recruiting advantage alone would allow any new program to quickly achieve the same level of success most of our other non-revenue sports achieve.
I personally would love to see it. I think it’s somewhat a shame that the nation’s richest athletic department at the nation’s largest (give or take) university remains somewhat stingy in what it offers. I understand the philosophy, but I think we could maintain the same overall standard of excellence even with an expanded menu.
To be filled in later.
by Hopkins Horn on Jan 22, 2011 10:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would kill to see this bring D1 lacrosse to Texas at both the mens and womens level...
It would be a great companion sport for the Spring TV lineup with Baseball and depending on where it is played would have a limited production cost. Meyer’s at 20k cap would be perfect for the sport…
The question would be if A&M would be willing to promote their teams as well to be a travel partner and then see both teams join ECAC with Airforce and Denver…
I know it is a pipe dream in the short term, but it would be a nice project to begin looking into…
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I don't see us adding any other sports
I don’t know if you caught the Texas Monthly article from Nov. of ‘08 called “Come Early, Be Loud, Cash In”, but it talks about our rise to power and has a bit about our athletic department’s philosophy on the number of sports we have. They compared us to tOSU who has upward toward 30 scholarship sports where we only carry 20. Deloss’s philosophy on this is that too many sports causes the resources to get spread too thin. He wanted to carry fewer sports so every program had the money to get the best facilities, coaches, etc. compared to the top programs across the country in each respective sport. The goal, which was novel at the time, was to give every program the opportunity to compete for a national championship every single year. You start adding sports and the pie gets split more ways, and ultimately some programs are going to get shortchanged. Personally, I’d love to have, say, a hockey team, but I totally get the rationale behind the decision and stand by it. I highly recommend the article btw. I think it is still on Texas Monthly’s website.
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I understand the rationale but there is going to need to be some changes
to provide compelling content in the Spring semester. This is as much about making sure the network as content as it is the desire to add a program.
A lot of this will depend on the success of the network in the 1st and 2nd Q of 2012. If the university see a lack in programing during the non football time frame an additional sport might be a way to combat that.
Lacrosse would not even have to fully elevated to D1 but even to D3 level would still provide a university backed set of teams that could be used to provide program content. With games running in 3 hour blocks that provides a 12 block of programing a week by providing game day coverage and one replay. Compare that to the other available options.
Unless the university is planning on leaning heavily on men’s basketball replays and live and replays of softball, women’s bball and baseball the lack of live content is going to be a problem. That is one of the major detractors currently for the B10N. Right now the B10N is showing large amounts of college hockey and wrestling with live bb and replays mixed in. The lack of content available that fit the TV programing mentality is going to be a major hurdle for a struggling network during the Spring semester.
Tennis, T&F, Swimming/Diving, Softball*, Baseball*, WSoccer*, Golf, WBasketball*, and Rowing are all going to be eligible live events. I excluded MBB becasue it is very unlikely that a UT conference game will fall to tier 3 coverage. Out of those live events the ones marked with *’s are considered easy programs for production and with an available knowledge base and tried and true large scale following. Combine that with the need with “live action” to maintain the random viewer’s interest in unknown content and there will probably be a need at some point to look into either providing another Spring sport that is easy for TV production with live action or be prepared to generate compelling secondary productions.
In no way am I implying that the sports UT provides are inadequate to provide content. My concern is that the slate is going to be very heavily slanted towards the fall and the spring semester without football may be a severe hardship for maintaining advertising stability due to the have and have not nature of the sporting event schedule and a major drain on the production staff due to the need of having to provide large amounts of compelling programing to offset the lack of live events
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"Uhmmm... Where are the boobs? AceJC
Feel better now? laxtonto
You were just lying in the weeds... waiting for your chance, weren’t you? ghostofErikThompson
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All great points
I hadn’t considered the lack of programming in the spring angle. It’s going to be interesting whether Bellmont is willing to potentially sacrifice the “quality over quantity” philosophy to fill in programming. Granted, you now have the argument that the money is so good we can add sports without sacrificing quality. This begs a new question though. Will this network cause the athletic department to start making decisions regarding programs from the perspective of a television network, whether or not it is actually in the best interest of the athletics department and the student athletes? I’m going to be really interested how much the lines between running an athletics department and a television network start to get blurred in the next few years.
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For Point 2
Someone on Frank the Tank had said that there had been somewhat consistent chatter between Kansas and the Big East. So that could be the first to jump ship. Or MIzzou could go down that path, if they accept the idea that the Big Ten will never give them an invite (or if they cynically decide to take a stable position for now and still hope for an upgrade eventually).

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