Jeff Fisher out at Tennessee Titans
by whills on Jan 27, 2011 6:46 PM CST
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PrintJeff Fisher and the Tennessee Titans have parted ways, There was some question about whether the longest tenured coach in the NFL was fired or is just leaving or what. But for our purposes here, he's gone. Brings a smile to my face. Here's the story as it broke via SI.
While the tweets are flying fast and furious, there is no early lead on how this affects Vince Young but it certainly does change the equation in Tennessee.
Fisher took over as interim head coach for the Houston Oilers when Jack Pardee left and then was named the head coach the next year, 1995. His overall record ended as 142-120, with a 5-6 playoff record. Three of those five wins came when the Titans reached the Super Bowl in 1999, in which they fell just a yard short of victory.
A new era is truly beginning in 2011.
Kudos to silky51 for catching this in the FanPosts.
From Titaninsider:
The Tennessee Titans and Jeff Fisher have agreed to part ways and Fisher will no longer be the head coach of the team," the team said in a release.
A head coaching search will begin immediately, but a source indicated to TitanInsider that offensive line coach Mike Munchak, who signed his contract extension earlier this week, is the leading candidate to fill the vacancy.
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"in which they fell just a yard short of victory"
A yard and a two point conversion short of victory?
One has to beget the other. Make the TD and you have a shot.
“It was thisssssssssssss close.”
Chances are you would be right under the old rules.
With the score 23-16, Fisher probably would have gone to OT rather than gamble.
One of VY's bonuses is due in mid-March, so you'd think that's the key date.
I think it’s a roster bonus of $3.4 M…substantial, so Bud and the Titans have some time to dance with VY. Plus there is a sixth year option.
But you’re right, silky, this does change many considerations.
The roster bonus is $4.25 M plus the $8.5 salary remaining on his contract for 2011.
The Titans can terminate him until Feb. 7, the waiver date, so between then and mid March will be the key period.
Certainly they would chose to trade him for the value involved in lieu of outright termination. But a new coach might mean a new start, so who knows. Bud’s invested $58 M at this point, so would he be thinking he’s pushing good money after bad?
All VY does is beat Trojans.
I hope he gets to stay under a good coach or can go to a team that will use him correctly AND appreciate him.
by dukeoforange on Jan 27, 2011 7:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Fisher needed to go, and probably should have been gone earlier
But at this point I’m still skeptical if staying at Tennessee is best for Vince. Some of the burned bridges are his own fault, and while he had no part in Fisher leaving there will always be some irrational fans who blame him for it.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 27, 2011 9:30 PM CST reply actions
True; Fisher had been on the losing edge for a while.
While VY showed some real contrition at the last, there are bound to be some lasting bruises.
Vince needs a fresh start and, as dukeoforange said, “…[one] that will use him correctly and appreciate him.”
The other situation here is the player negotiations. Don’t know how that would skew some of these things, but it’s in the mix.
so the lockout date seems to be March 4th.....
thus it probably makes sense for Tennessee to hold off doing anything until the labor negotiations ore completed….if I’m reading the timeline right.
Don't know if I'm accurate on the dates...that needs to be nailed down.
Won’t be back the rest of the day, so if you discover a good time line, include it here.
hook ’em
Somewhere in this world, Vince is singing and dancing to his new hit “Jeff, How That Ass Taste”
by Tackchevy on Jan 28, 2011 8:56 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
More like the other way around
Fisher will find another HC job easily after the lockout. VY on the other hand lost a ton of credibility with his antics. Fisher will be fine. Not sure about VY yet.
by goingforthecorner on Jan 28, 2011 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
VY will find another team too
VY has proven he can play the game, even when surrounded by Fisherball. I can’t believe VY will not get another shot when we have the likes of Derek Anderson starting in games last season.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 28, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
By NFL standards, VY’s sins are really, really minor. He will keep getting opportunities, as long as someone thinks he has a chance to be effective. The number of teams is greater than the number of quality quarterbacks (Exhibit A: Chad Henne attempted 490 passes last year). And in a so-called “copycat” league, there must be several teams looking at Michael Vick’s success and wondering if VY can do something similar.
I wish Jeff Fisher would've stayed with Tennessee. The Titans fanbase deserve him. They're all a bunch of losers. I wish Bud Adams would do something drastic again before he dies and move the team to Austin or a nearby city.
All this blind love for Jeff Fisher from espn amazes me. He is great at projecting blame on everyone but himself and keeping his pr image intact, but he is a shitty coach with a shitty attitude. I still hope VY goes elsewhere, I hear Miami is nice. The fans in Tennessee are an abysmal dissapointment to the sport.
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by 512 on Jan 28, 2011 9:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Texas Longhorns are Austin's NFL team
don’t need another one
by goingforthecorner on Jan 28, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Pushed Bud too far...
According to the ESPN article, Fisher wanted to hire his kid to permanent staff. Bud no likey fambly staff. Think Tommy Boy. Fisher set the ultimatum and had Bud caved, Fisher would know he pwned the team. Bud fired Fisher.
Yay Bud, stick to your guns. Wait, he did fire VY for this arsehole. OK, so he is a little late to man up, but he did. Let’s see if VY is still his guy.
45-35
I didn't see anywhere that he was outright fired...
not that that would be so unusual in the NFL. I suspect there is a lot more to the Adams v. Fisher saga. Fisher will get a job quickly enough, post negotiations. Lotta desperate teams out there.
VY has his future in front of him…he could still be the guy.
Will bud really get another job that quickly?
Im not quite so sure.
You have John Gruden, Bill Cowher out there as well as a few other big time names looking for jobs.
Personally I would go with Cowher over Fisher.
Why the Hate?
Jeff Fisher was a good, not a great head coach in the NFL. VY was/is an ok, not even a good QB so far in the NFL. Vince has issues: he has horrible throwing mechanics for the NFL, he still thinks he is the best athlete on the field and that it will bring him victory without doing the work in the film room, and he needs to simply grow up.
The offensive scheme Fisher likes to run and the manner in which Vince plays on the field was never compatible.
I hope VY takes what hapopened this year and builds on it. I imagine that this will only happen if he is not surrounded by a posse of Yes-Men who tell the Emporor how wonderful his new clothes are.
It was very possibly the time for Fisher to move on to another team and/or at least let a new coach give a try at Nashville. Mike Munchak appears to be the likely candidate and Mike is a dedicated hard worker and a great guy and from what I read a good NFL position coach.
By the way, I loved VY as a UT player. He was possibly the best college football player I have ever seen (in 45 years of watching college football closely). But as we all know, the NFL is a whole different game. Like most people, VY’s greatest asset, his unsurpassed athelticism is also his greatest weakness due to his not having to cultivate all through his career, including college, the other skills which are necessary to be truly great in the NFL.
All the great NFL QB’s in recent years live in the film room. My bet is that VY studied film less than any other starting QB in the NFL. That would not be acceptable to me and certainly was not to Jeff Fisher.
Pardon the typos. Where is the splchec?
All new states are infested, more or less, by a class of noisy, second-rate men who are always in favor of rash and extreme measures, but Texas was absolutely overrun by such men. --Sam Houston--
Fisher led some very dirty teams.
And he coached the Tennessee Titans, home of the Beelzebub who moved teh team from houston.
I think you said it best...
Jeff Fisher was a good, not a great head coach in the NFL.
Its long overdue for the Titans to change things up.
Fisher had a role in the VY/Fisher fiasco and certainly did not make it an easy transition for VY. I’m not saying that VY did not make a mess of things because he obviously did. Fisher made it clear that he wanted no part of VY from the beginning and it has been a mess since then with sporadic moments when VY was able to bring the team back from the dead.
ATX
I'm still not convinced the Fisher was that good a coach. I'd say he was slightly above average.
Fisher and Young were doomed to failure because they are both so stubburn.
by Texas Wahoo on Jan 28, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I'm disappointed by the Fisher hate
He didn’t take the team out of Houston, his owner did.
He didn’t run Vince out of town, Vince pretty much ran himself out of town. What other coach, in a similar situation, would have tolerated that kind of behavior from a starting QB and team leader? And doesn’t a head coach have a right to pick the guy he wants under center?
I think his moving on was the best thing for him and the Titans, no doubt. But I’m not dancing on his grave.
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by windycityhorn on Jan 28, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
VY no good?
Really? Dude has, what two Pro Bowls, ROY, a Madden cover, a 70% winning percentage (on a team that wins 40% of the time w/o him), and was the fifth rated passer before getting injured this year.
Say what you will about his maturity, but his mechanics were average at the NFL level, accuracy WELL ABOVE AVERAGE, and once he got decent weapons the only thing holding him back was the play-calling.
Let’s be real here. You might like Fisher, why I have not much of an idea, seems about as mature as Vince with all the public airing of the grievances and all, but you can’t credibly argue Vince was a below average NFL QB.
by Erasmus Funderburke on Jan 28, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
I think you need to re-watch VY's play in the 2009 season
As well as this past year when he was healthy. He was throwing the ball fine and actually stopped running very much, which drew criticism, believe or not, from his fans for not doing so. Jeff Fisher had a decent tenure as a coach but in his 16 years was slow to adapt, and it showed in his usage of weapons like Vince Young, Christ Johnson, and Kenny Britt. Those players still did some good things because they’re talented, but they were not helped by Fisher’s philosophy.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jan 28, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Move on.
Vince should get a new start, regardless of what happened to Fisher. There’s history with the team – some good, some bad – but he needs a new start.
I think we could see him in a Vikings uniform next year
If anywhere. That would be the best spot for him, IMHO.
As a Bears fan, I’m not sure how I feel about that. I despise the Vikings.
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
by windycityhorn on Jan 28, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
PSA: full story on VY/Fisher in MS Paint
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/82148-Clash-of-the-Titans-in-MS-Paint
A masterwork from THujone over at Shaggy. Required reading for anyone interested in what really went down in Tennessee.
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