Texas to Texas A&M: No Room on Non-Conference Schedule
Texas A&M athletic director Bill Byrne reached out to his counterpart at the state capitol on Friday afternoon regarding the continuation of the Texas-Texas A&M rivalry after the Aggies make their 2012 move to the SEC and was told that the Longhorns have no room on their non-conference schedule to play the Aggies at least through 2018.
As Texas A&M coaches also reached out to Texas coaches in other sports, only the tennis team has currently replied to requests to continue the rivalry in those sports as well, declining the offer to play A&M.
Meanwhile, state senator Tommy Williams, a Republican from The Woodlands, is starting to make noise in the legislature, saying that he will file legislation that would instruct both schools to continue the rivalry. While it's understandable that the legislature declined to get involved in attempting to keep A&M in the Big 12, why get involved now and tell Texas what to do?
After all, as DeLoss Dodds has said in recent weeks, A&M was the one who left the conference, destabilizing it to the point where it barely survived once again. If the Aggies so desperately wanted to continue the rivalry with Texas, why leave the conference? Perhaps Dodds and the Texas administration are declining to play the Aggies as payback for bailing on the league and if so, don't the Longhorns have that right? This is the consequence of making the decision to leave. Own it, Aggies. Of course, it's probably still more convenient to blame everything on Texas, as always.
Earlier in the week, interim commissioner Chuck Neinas indicated that the Longhorns are not currently considering newest Big 12 member TCU as a potential opponent on Thanksgiving, leaving the opponent for that date up in the air, though Texas will continue to play a T-day game. Texas Tech has expressed a desire to take A&M's spot.
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I'm still pro playing A&M...
… on the Longhorn Network.
Greg Davis haikus; a lot like his offenses; always go sideways.
by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions
Cable providers still wouldn't carry your network
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 4:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We still have a network. You don't.
Sally, will you meet me at the airport?
by TxHorns247 on Oct 14, 2011 4:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You know . . . it's not an issue of carrying
Ultimately, the providers will carry the network. It’s about dollars.
I don’t blame ESPN for asking for the moon.
And I don’t blame the cable companies for telling ESPN to stick it where the sun don’t shine.
This is cowardly on the part of texas
but not surprising.
Dodds said if we didn’t do what he wanted, he’d take his ball and go home, and that is what he did.
Honestly, I’m only surprised Garrido didn’t ask to continue the baseball series. It’s been a guaranteed win for him ever since Childress arrived.
I’m sure Chris Petrucelli and Gail Goestenkors are gleeful at this news.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 4:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Ridiculous statement.
“This is cowardly on the part of (T)exas”
Beergut, this is absolutely the stupidest most inane thing you’ve ever posted here. Pot meet Kettle. amuT pussed out on everyone in the Big 12 and ran away like little selfish 1st-graders. Also, how much state pride would it take for you to capitalize & honor the state in which you supposedly live? Again, 1st-grader stuff there.
Remember the source
College Station: Where logic goes to die and irony never had a chance.
It’s like filing for divorce but still wanting to celebrate your anniversary. And then getting pissy when your ex refuses.
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
by windycityhorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I made the analogy that it's like the undesirable ex who still wants to be friends with benefits
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone needs to explain to me
how moving to an admittedly tougher conference is ‘pussing out’ or running away?
As for the capitalization issue, you’re not going to win that argument with me. I differentiste between Texas, the State, and texas, the school.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You left the conference
Explain how Texas is taking its ball and going home. We’ve been home for 15 years. It’s obviously a tougher conference, but it doesn’t change the fact you are leaving.
As for the capitalization issue, you’re not going to win that argument with me. I differentiste between Texas, the State, and texas, the school.
Don’t do this to yourself. At least just say it’s because you cannot bring yourself to properly capitalize Texas. Are your Aggie readers THAT stupid? Do they really need you to make the distinction between Texas, the state, and Texas, The University?
He has readers?
I thought he just trolled on our site all day.
"Well, a guy did a Horns down to him. You just shouldn’t do that."
You know...
…they were here first and could have taken the name “University of Texas”. I suppose it’s our fault they didn’t?
Moving to the SEC is not "pussing out" or "running away"
But it is stupid, counter-productive, self-defeating, and almost brought about the demise of the Big XII. It allows SEC schools a recruiting pipeline into Texas, hurting all Texas schools, while few Florida, Tenn, Georgia, or Alabama players are likely to find College Station to be an attractive spot to spend 4 years. Rightly or wrongly the move is seen as an attempt to distance A&M from UT and UT has been blamed for arrogance and greed as exemplified by the Longhorn Network. To expect UT to accept all this, pretend none of this affects them, and continue to play A&M is unrealistic and absurd. Nevertheless, I am all in favor of kicking your butts every year.
P.S. The Aggie obsesssion with making “UT” into “tu” is just silly. It shows you ignorance of proper English grammar and the official school name without affecting us a bit. What is next? “fu” for the University of Florida?
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
What is next? "fu" for the University of Florida?
Which of course makes no sense what-so-ever already. If Texas A&M picks it up, consider me liking them in the conference, over. Though I will say that most SEC fans don’t resort to those tactics for any team. We have other (more creative) ways of expressing our dislike towards other schools.
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by FlaGators on Oct 14, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bad news
The Aggies are coming to dinner. Creativity? No. Weirdness cloaked in a b.c. notion of “tradition?” Check.
http://www.twitter.com/orlansky_40as
http://www.twitter.com/JayMashBON
Damn. B.c.=b.s.
Still in baseball mode. Not on my A game in the comments section.
http://www.twitter.com/orlansky_40as
http://www.twitter.com/JayMashBON
Well, damn.
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Make that "...unlikely to find College Station to be an attractive spot..."
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
Dur.....dur .....ahhh Whoop! -Beergut
"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 14, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha, now youll realize how much you have riden our co-tail for decades...
…after this rivalry game is done, no one will care about A&M. and i am totally for just shutting down the game to teach little brother a lesson because hes been a little bitch lately.
lesson to be learned Aggies: you cant have your cake and eat it too!
by vanterminatorhorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Coat-tail, not co-tail.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Anatomy of a beergut post
Childish non-capitalization of Texas? Check.
Completely made up statement parading as fact?
Dodds said if we didn’t do what he wanted, he’d take his ball and go home
Check.
Trace of “humility” for “balance”?
It’s been a guaranteed win for him ever since Childress arrived.
Check.
Referencing non-revenue sports, about which no one cares about, but about which Aggies take undue pride?
I’m sure Chris Petrucelli and Gail Goestenkors are gleeful at this news.
Check.
Vintage beergut. To see more examples, I urge our readers to visit him in his natural habitat, I Am the Twelfth Man*, where you’ll find more beergut classics, conveniently unimpeded by posts from anyone else.
- What he fails to mention is that he is also the first through eleventh men, too.
Simplicity is always the secret, to a profound truth, to doing things, to writing, to painting. Life is profound in its simplicity. - Charles Bukowski
by windycityhorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Right, it's "cowardly"
to stop playing a team that we own, probably replacing them on the schedule with a significantly stronger program.
how is it cowardly?
give me one good reason for why Texas should continue to play a school that has been doing nothing but trashing it in the media for the last 4 months? “Screw you Texas we’re going to the SEC because you’re a bunch of greedy bastards and we hate you!!!!…but still play us ok?”
formerly "Horns102591"
12th man!!?!?!!?
Your leaving the conference!!!!!!! If wanted to keep the tradition you should have stayed!!!
by TexasStateHorn on Oct 14, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
You gotta alter that 12th man stuff
You’re now 13th man
BG I'm going to have to award you the DB of the Decade Award
Cowardly? All the cowardice in this deal is to aggy’s account. You guys raised the white flag of surrender with an area 51-esque conspiracy theory that just doesn’t hold water.
The only kids that took their ball home was aggy. You surrendered, history will not be sympathetic to your pathetic point of view – which is wholly inaccurate. Don’t blame you for getting a jump on revisionist history though. Good luck with that, douchebag.
GOMER TAPPED OUT !!! GOODBYE GOMER !!!
by HalfmileHorn on Oct 15, 2011 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Is someone pissed
He will need to get a new wardrobe? Now that your “saw ’em off” t-shirts are no longer considered high fashion.
For a school so big on "Tradition" & "Honor" ...
… amuT sure screwed the pooch on this one. Tradition would have been to stay w/ all their Texas rivals. I love it that Deloss is punishing ‘em. Yeah, I’d love to continue the series with them but I don’t have any problem with them ‘getting their cake’ (SEC) but not being able to ‘eat it’ (continuing the series w/ UT). If you’re gonna tuck tail & run, you can’t call the shots for the people you walked out on. Stupid aggy.
There is nothing honorable about staying with another school
that is interested at improving themselves at the expense of everyone else. Don’t talk about honor when Dodds’ response to A&M’s leaving was to threaten to never play us in anything again. You want to talk about 1st grade behavior, the ’I’ll take my ball and go home if you don’t do what I want’ attitude displayed and acted on by texas and Dodds is pure grade school.
I don’t have a problem with not playing texas, b/c if giving up thst rivalry is what it takes to go to the SEC, I’m okay with that trade. Just don’t try to sit here and talk about honor or tradition when your school acts dishonorably.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 5:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Look
Actions have consequences, it’s really that simple. You rode the “UT is a monster” meme for cover for all it was worth, is it surprising no one wants to turn around and allow you the one chance for redemption you’ve come to rely on for the last decade?
by ohman08 on Oct 14, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that is interested at improving themselves at the expense of everyone else.
That sure sounds like the Aggies’ move to the SEC to me.
by bigdukesix on Oct 14, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Please tell me how Texas was improving itself at others' expense
Because if you’re talking about the LHN, you know damn well that every single school has equal freedom under conference and NCAA policies to pursue identical contractual arrangements for third-tier rights. If you’re talking about the unequal 50% of first-tier revenue sharing, then would you care to consider that the farmers voted for and benefitted from that as well?
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What is dishonorable
Is being a consistently mediocre underachiever of a program, refusing to pursue anything innovative like, you know a school network (even when offered) and then blaming us for your failings.
You whiners have spent the past year demonizing Texas, plotting your move to the SEC all the while taking the extra money you accepted to stay.
Then in the next breath you turn around say, " hey we can still be friends right? And play that rivalry game that means way more to us than to you?"
This isn’t punitive, were sick and tired of you hillbilly drama queens. We’ve already replaced you with a better school, you are neither needed nor wanted.
by BurntOrangeForever on Oct 14, 2011 6:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
its not being dishionorable to tell A&M that if you leave we dont have room on the schedule for you until 2018 its called honoring prior agreements which is the honorable thing to do
formerly "Horns102591"
by horns1025 on Oct 14, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
horns1025
You’ve obviously forgotten it’s un-American to expect people to keep their pledges and honor the contracts they’ve signed – at least according to the leadership(?) at A&M
by longhorn charlie on Oct 14, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
12th man!!
You guys jump the gun you made your bed now sleep in it!!!! We made consessions with the remaining teams you could have been part of it but now you guys will be with the big southern dummy conference!! Good Luck buddy!!! LOL!!!
by TexasStateHorn on Oct 14, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Honor
Is standing by your commitments. Only 12 months ago, you took 20mm and pledged fidelity to the Big 12. A&M broke that commitment, so your “honor” is no longer in question. The Big 12 knows how much your word is worth. Just move on and accept what you are.
It's tAMU/AtM that are the cowards here
God help us if the Corps officers are ever required to lead anyone in time of war. You tucked tail and ran. THE University of Texas does not owe you a damned thing. Have fun playing Vandy or Miss State next Thanksgiving – we LOVE the idea of TCU replacing you!
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Oct 14, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ole Miss vs. Mississippi St.
Already play eachother on Thanksgiving I believe.
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 14, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Even when it's not on Thanksgiving, I think it's still always that weekend
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
the egg bowl
Who are you?!
I'm Kick Ass!
by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 14, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take hyperbole for $500, Alex
Bringing up military leadership in a thread about football scheduling and realignment; if someone comes on here and starts talking about James Earl Rudder or Eli Whiteley, it is your fault.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 6:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Beergut, why are you still here?
I have Aggie friends that I respect. . My nephew briefly even attended that institution. You occasionally contributed valuable insight when we were conference rivals. I disagree with those who criticize the Aggies’ sexual orientation or academic programs. I feel A&M has both a very good academic program and an above average athtletic program. I felt we had one of the greatest rivalries in sports. However, you left us; we didn’t leave you. You were the one who filed for a “divorce” while blaming us. Don’t expect us to pretend nothing happened and continue business as usual. Fine, live with your decision. Go change your school fight song and all the traditions related to UT (or tu, as you prefer) and give your opinions on the U. Florida, LSU, or U. Alabama websites. You will now be competiting with then for Texas recruits.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
by OBdoc on Oct 14, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Beergut - do you have a lack of comprehension skills?
YOU were the one that brought the word “cowardly” into this thread. You were referring to our leadership. It was pointed out that, in fact, it was tAMU’s leadership that was cowardly for tucking tail and running from mean old Texas. The corps is central to AtM mentality and provides officers to the military – "leaders’ as it were. Now, through your own admission, most of the student body wanted to leave the Big 12 and run to the SEC, including the corps.
The point being made, if your so called leaders are willing to run now why wouldn’t they be suspect in time of war – hmmmmm?
Where is the hyperbole and why was this necessary to explain to you?
AND, why are you defending cowardice unless you, yourself, are suspect?
I th8ink it is best that you attend a Miss State blog whereby you explain that tAMU lest because of money, er..competition…er… stability….er….we just don’t like Texas telling us what to do so we are running for the hills because we can’t stand and fight.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
by Snide Aside on Oct 15, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yes
God help us if those fighting farmers with pitchforks and their fake army ever actually join the real USA military forces… oh what’s that? They do?!
Seven Medal of Honors:
http://www.mscc.tamu.edu/aboutus/medals.html
“Texas A&M commissions more officers than any other institution outside of the nation’s service academies.”
Yeah…good thing they are never “required to lead anyone in the time of war.”
Can we not separate a school’s athletic department and their Corps program?! That’s just like saying, “Hopefully A&M doesn’t put out any police officers, because since their AD left the Big 12…they’re probably run from danger!”
Maybe you don’t owe A&M anything, but I think you owe some respect to those who fight for your freedom. Maybe not though.
If, when they graduate from school
They actually do join the military and serve honorably, then they’ll have my respect.
But wearing a “uniform” for four years at college and then moving on to civilian life does NOT entitle them to jack.
And by the way that same article you quoted also said that “Approximately 42 percent of the members of the Cadet Corps receive classroom training and receive a commission in the United States Armed Forces upon graduation”. Thats less than half that actually go on to earn that costume they wore in college.
The rest are hillbillys playing dress up.
by BurntOrangeForever on Oct 14, 2011 7:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hey, rocket scientist
To make the phrase “medal of honor” plural, you change the noun “medal” not the object of the prepositional phrase “honor”. You probably also ask people “what school you from?”
As far as quantity, I might give aTm the title for commissioning officers. But in a twenty seven year career as a commissioned officer, I can categorically state that the most uniformly sorry officers I saw were Aggies. First, like you, they were incapable of stringing together grammatically correct sentences – and their verbal communication skills weren’t much better. They lacked intellectual curiosity, and always looked for the stupid way to do things. They were incapable of persuading their subordinates, and always fell back on “because I outrank you” – not a smart thing for a four year officer to say to his eighteen year senior enlisted. Their enthusiasim was admirable, but it never seemed to become tempered by experience or judgement. Maybe that is why I saw more Aggies fail to select for O4 than any other school. They made great followers, but never became leaders.
I'll second that...
… although saying that they “never became leaders” is a bit strong. I can think of a couple of Aggies with whom I worked who were outstanding leaders (Randy House, retired as a 2-star I believe; Dave Townsend, although I don’t know what happened to him after our association). However, the vast majority were great at doing what they were told but not so great at actually thinking or inspiring their soldiers to achieve beyond the minimum.
I never studied the phenomenon to an extent to allow me to nail the reason for the almost universal failure of Aggie graduates to demonstrate greater-than-company-grade leadership, but I did develop an unstudied theory.
The commissioning program at A&M is slightly different, obviously, from other ROTC programs in that A&M has a full-time corps. Because of that, most Aggies like to say that they are more like West Point than any ROTC program. However, there are key differences that the Aggies never appreciate. Chief among those differences is the positive reinforcement given to Aggies whose default mode of dealing with any challenge is to yell and get angry. Certainly, there are times to yell. There are legitimate times to get angry. But cadets at A&M seem to default to this as a rule… and they get positive reinforcement for it while at A&M, irrespective of the second and third-order effects of their silly tantrums.
Other sources of commissioning (West Point, OCS, and pretty much all other ROTC programs from what I can tell) recognize that a budding leader is sometimes going to pitch a fit when confronted with a problem. However, those other sources actually work with the youngster to develop skills and competencies which are more constructive than defaulting to a wall-eyed fit. Not so at A&M. At least it wasn’t so for the three years I had a somewhat close view of their program in action.
My theory, then, is that this four-year unhealthy environment causes the graduates to go out into “Big Army” thinking that they have been shown “what right looks like” when, in fact, they have perfected a terribly ineffective default mode of dealing with the normal stress of leading soldiers.
Some can have it trained out of them. Some cannot. When I was a company executive officer, my company got a brand-new 2LT from A&M’s ROTC and my commander and I were able to teach that young dog some new tricks. He would have probably turned out to be a pretty good officer if he hadn’t later decided to get into a pissing contest with a game warden, resulting in a felony conviction for trespass and hunting without a license… but I digress.
We agree about Aggies as leaders
The ones I was referring to as not becoming leaders were the ones bounced for failing to select to O4. Certainly, Ags have risen to the top – former Chief of Staff of the AF Buzz Moseley just the latest example. But the idea that the Aggie Corps is “more like WP” than any other ROTC program is laughable on the surface. If it is like anything, it is like Va Tech – small corps as part of a larger civilian student body. The schools most like the service academies are VMI and The Citadel – where the entire student body is in a 24/7 corps of cadets.
Back then they had cajones - today, maybe not so much.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Not sure that will ever be an issue
The “Corp” isn’t a military unit, just a bunch of drunk hillbillies playing dress up.
by BurntOrangeForever on Oct 14, 2011 6:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
By-the-way, we are getting tons of requests from other teams to play us Thanksgiving.
How many is tAMU getting?
Buh-bye, now.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
It was fake Army that decided to leave, on the assumption that the Big 12 would fall apart.
Now that it isnt, Im sure they regret even just alittle they way it played out. Good riddance fake Army! While we enjoy turkey and pigskin, u guys can be practiving to get your heads get kicked in by Vanderbilt…..if being a coward (as dumb aggie above suggested) is wrong I dont want to be right!
"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 14, 2011 4:36 PM CDT reply actions
While I'll miss the game...
There are so many legitimate reasons not to play it going forward that I’m 100% behind Belmont. There is no reason for Texas to breach contracts or pay off schools just to keep this game going. I don’t see A&M trying to continue the Baylor game or the Tech game - games which were much more financially important to Baylor and Tech than the UT/Aggie game was to Texas.
This was an absolute consequence of leaving the conference, and I’m not sure A&M really ever believed this would happen. There may be room on the schedule after 2018, and I’ll be fine scheduling it then. But this is pure cause and effect on A&M’s part.
by A-Tex Devil on Oct 14, 2011 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Very well said.
They should have considered and accepted this outcome when they left.
Add that to the fact that....
A&M seems to be brushing Tech and Baylor off with what amounts to the same reason UT declined to continue playing A&M. “It’s different though.” OK.
good for both teams
hey I am happy for A&M. They went exactly where they wanted to go,and where i think they belong.They are, culturally a great fit for the SEC. And as in the Big 12, and the old SWC,some years they will compete well, some years maybe not so much. But they will be with teams and schools that they resonate with better than they have with UT and maybe some other Big 12 schools. Plus they are away from UT and that can only be healthy for them, and in my eyes, for UT.
This rivalry got sick many years ago. It is not a healthy rivalry like i believe OU is. A*M needs to go and truly be seen as separate from UT. OU has NO problems with people seeing them as dependent on us or on us being dependent on OU. But as long as A*M plays us in the same conference, they are doomed as our little brother.
So Aggies, you are not cowards for going where you belong. and we are not cowards for not playing you. This is as it should be. Each of the schools doing exactly the right thing for A*M to grow up and become the strong independent school they need to be and not UT’s baby brother.
Good luck to you. Play hard, make all Texans proud of you. But dont whine when we are happy to see you go and dont see a need to play you.
I have real ties to Texas Tech and hope like hell that is our new rival on Thanksgiving and I will love that game that day. or hell, maybe the real army would be a great game on Tday. Or Tcu, or Notre Dame, or USC.
Grow up now. find your own Tday game. Its why you left. Do it
by Longhorn723 on Oct 14, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
im not a texan...
…i am a longhorn. so screw everything else, i hope A&M gets the shit kicked out of them so they can maybe, just this one time, learn a life lesson which is dont go around fucking up the only good thing you have…
by vanterminatorhorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
NOT!
So Aggies, you are not cowards for going
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
oh forgot something
A*M wants to be seen as strong and independent from UT. You can’t be strong and independent from UT and still run to mommy (your guys in the legislature) and whine cause big brother is not playing in a way to let you win.
you are all grown up now. Act it. Dont run to mommy and daddy. Schedule your own game by yourself. Without mommy and daddy having to do it for you
Also worth mentioning:
Tommy Williams is a degree-holding member of the agricult.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions
Don't forget our fearless governor.
I hope this presidential campaign goes on for a long time. It’s funny watching Perry hang himself on tv and plummet in the polls.
My source close to the program can beat up your source close to the program!
He's definitely flailing for attention at this point
I’m really not trying to get into politics here, of course. This is about his being an ag, and making a fool of himself. When a guy who desperately needs exposure and attention isn’t getting enough, he flails more, and dark comedy ensues.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
― Isaac Asimov
by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The only scenario that should be realistic
it’s Aggie losing state funding for potentially hanging multiple other schools in state out to dry.
TEXAS FIGHT
that wouldnt hurt aggie
not with all that equal revenue sharing in the $ec! they are gonna be rolling in dough, just you watch! /sarcasm
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Oct 15, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't live in the Woodlands but
this makes a strong case for a new legislator.
GOBR, were you on hand reporting this, or did you find this story somewhere?
If you have a link to a story, I’d like to send it up some ag noses.
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions
Much thanks
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I figured the UT administration would come to this conclusion,
I really think that Dodds & Co. are pretty apathetic towards A&M right now and are just not going to give up OOC games with ND, BYU, USC, Cal, etc. Playing the Aggies isn’t worth breaking-off a UT-USC or UT-ND game. I can almost guarantee we’ll want to play them again around 2020, once nostalgia starts creeping back in. I can also guarantee that we’ll play Notre Dame on Thanksgiving in 2015, 2016, 2019, and 2020. Dodds and Swarbick we’ll set it up.
On another note, I bet the Aggies are panicking over this news. Like it or not, Ags, you’ve built your entire history, identity, and existence through this game. Time to start a new chapter.
BEVO IS ANGRY!
You were doing fine until you got to the last paragraph
Part of the reason Aggies think ‘sips are arrogant is b/c they honestly can’t see beyond their own noses to a world beyond themselves.
If you want to know how Aggies define themselves, I’d invite you to look up Aggie Muster and Silver Taps, the defining traditions of A&M. I doubt you will do it, though; that would mean changing your viewpoint thst everything in the world is about texas.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 6:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Those are great traditions, and will continue to be so whether A&M plays Texas or not.
But c’mon man. I admit that the stereotype for UT is that we are greedy, arrogant, fake cowboys, and hippies (hmm, how can a hippie be a greedy arrogant cowboy?). And all of those stereotypes hold some truth, there are definitely Texas students and alums that fit those profiles. And it’s the same with A&M. Your fight song talks more about UT than A&M. The band has to call a tuba a bass horn in order to avoid the letters TU. Your most popular shirt has OUR logo with horns sawed off.
Now, again, A&M has great traditions. The band, the corps, Reveille, the 12th man. But part of A&M’s identity is definitely intertwined with everything anit-UT. All I’m saying is, it’s a new century. Might be time to start a new chapter/identity. It might be a good thing for both schools.
BEVO IS ANGRY!
Their most popular shirt lately has been the
one proudly displaying what crappy judgement they have. SECede shirts.
TEXAS FIGHT
Exhibit A: The Aggie War Hymn
Lets touch on this. This is your school song after all. First of all, this song has at least 2 verses that I know of. The first is like any school’s fight song. Rah rah, we’re Texas A&M, we’re awesome, we’re going to take over the world, go, fight, win, the regular. MAYBE a whole 1% of the student body knows it. No, at sporting events, the entire fanbase sings only the second verse. Let’s take a look here at what you guys sing.
Goodbye to Texas university (that’s about us)
So long to the orange and the white (that’s about us)
Good luck to dear old Texas Aggies
They are the boys who show the real old fight (2 consecutive lines about your own school!)
They eyes of Texas are upon you (that’s about us)
That is the song they sing so well – sounds like hell (that’s about us)
So goodbye to Texas university (that’s about us)
We’re going to beat you all to chigaroogarem chigaroogarem (spelling? And that is about us, but could conceivably be extended to everyone, since it says “you all”. I might give you that one, but it would be generous)
Rough tough real stuff Texas A&M
Saw Varsity’s horns off
Saw Varsity’s horns off
Saw Varsity’s horns off – short A
Varsity’s horns are sawed off
Varsity’s horns are sawed off
Varsity’s horns are sawed off – short A
So by my count (admitting defining lines in a song is a subjective measure), 11 or 12 lines in your fight song are about us, while 3 or 4 are about yourselves. So roughly 75-80% of your fight song (at least the portion your fanbase actually knows and exclusively sings) is about us. Think you might be a tad fixated?
And please don’t come back with an asinine comment about how we mention you in Texas Fight. Yes, we do, one time. Not 12. We also like to throw “OU sucks” in there because, you know, our identity doesn’t revolve around trying to beat one school. We like, have rivalries with other people. Crazy.
Now I will readily admit that A&M has some great traditions. I’m a logical person. And I come from a family of Aggies. There are plenty of things I respect about A&M – Aggie Muster and Silver Taps certainly among them. Other traditions are… well kinda just downright silly. Only having male yell leaders when the rest of the country moved on 50 years ago. Yep, that one’s silly. But if you’re going to say we can’t see the world beyond our own noses in response to a comment like that, please sing your fight song to yourself. Let’s attempt to be rational here. We’ll try to give you the same courtesy.
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by mwjames on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tradition?
As in running off to the sec?
Pssst…The University has their own network!
Scares you faggies everytime, doesn’t it?
Hook Em Horns!!!
by Hook Em Horns on Oct 17, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
this just makes sense
they walked out so keep walking. don’t look back. just keep walking.
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A Lot of Reasons to Not Play
But ever since Aggie fans cheered, players boasted and coaches winked and nodded at the blatant cheap shot against McCoy a few years ago I’ve been pretty over them. Poor sportsmen and cheap shot artists – even after we were honorable and grieved their bonfire loss with tributes – are why I won’t miss Aggie. They can change their fight song now and eat bulldog and tiger ass and balls for all I care.
by RMHorn on Oct 14, 2011 6:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Actually, Franchione apologized for the Heard hit
I’m not happy he did that, but one coach did apologize. Regardless, connecting McCoy’s inability to physically withstand the pounding of a game to the 1999 Bonfire game? Wow.
by Beergut on Oct 14, 2011 6:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not the pounding of a game
That was a gutless cheap shot by a worthless aggie, and that you continue to defend the incident and use it to question Colt’s toughness speaks volumes about your concept of honor and toughness.
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 14, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow ONE coach apologized?
And I know tons of aggies that loved that cheap shit on McCoy. Just cause you didn’t like it doesn’t mean a bunch of assholes out there did. Low class. Period. OU wouldn’t cheer for such a hit.
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by TxHorns247 on Oct 14, 2011 6:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not the events
The reactions.
Cheering when a freshman QB gets injured?
Cart McCry?
Oh, that’s right. You think Sergio Kindle falling down stairs at night was hilarious.
Carry on.
So you're not happy the coach apologized?
For a blatant (incredibly) LATE hit? For one of his players jeopardizing the health of another student athlete? If for no other reason, this is why the BON brain trust should permanently ban you from contributing your slop here. However, there are just too many other reasons. PLEASE do something about this – I’ll say it politely so I don’t get banned – troll.
Leave it to an Aggie
to say a BLATANT cheap shot was the every down “pounding” of a game. Go away and take your ugly dark red glasses with you. Honestly, I read your blog just to see what ridiculous BS you spew because I find it humorous that you are actually allowed to continue as the site moderator. You are an insult to anyone that is associated with Texas A&M and if I were an Aggy, would disown you as a human being. You truly disgust me as a viable source of any kind of information. I am so glad to call BON my SBN home because of our Mod’s and their ability to maintain integrity while also keeping things positive on this site. You have zero integrity to me and I’m sure I’m not the only one to ever read your mindless nonsense and come to the same conclusion. I, for one, am glad to see A&M go and hope you never return here to spout your ridiculous homer filth. Please, go away and piss off your new conference mates.
by kirk1005 on Oct 14, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good Point...
You aggies should never have been trusted to light a fire, much less build one.
That definitely should have been halted many years ago.
by Hook Em Horns on Oct 17, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
To Aggie Sportsmanship = Kissing Her After Raping Her
….Sorry ’bout that!
At least that’s what you’re saying…and what they did. A coach, wink, wink, said, nod, so sorry, wink, wink?!
That was cheap, you, like the rest of Aggieland, still cheer it and justify it, and that’s pathetic.
I do miss the end of traditions in this fast-changing world. But Poooooooor Aggie is one I don’t think I’ll miss if it goes away for the rest of my lifetime because of fans like you and a program like that.
by RMHorn on Oct 14, 2011 6:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The chron blog post is interesting
For all Byrne’s whining about this, he’s turned around and done the same thing to Baylor and Tech. I won’t be the least surprised when Beergut ignores this entirely.
I want to get this straight in my head
It’s ok for aggie to shut out Baylor and Tech. No issues there not playing them. But for Texas to shut out aggie and not play them anymore is high treason. I thought everything was supposed to be about us.
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Serious question here:
How is A&M leaving for the SEC (widely regarded as the best football conference in the country) “running with their tail between their legs” by all Horn accounts?
You're leaving our conference.
You can’t stand us anymore. If it weren’t for Texas, you would still be in the Big 12.
Why is it so hard for Aggies to understand Texas has a set schedule for 2012 through 2018 with A&M as the Thanksgiving game. Aggies are tired of Texas and leave. Hello TCU. It has not been decided who replaces the A&M game on Thanksgiving, but the schedule is full once again.
Capish?
What do the Aggies want us to do?
What do they see as the logical solution? They think we are ducking/running/whatever. Who do we drop off the schedule, Ags?
So who is A&M's rival again?
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As an outsider who really doesn’t give a damn either way on the issue of Texas-Texas A&M playing or not playing, I’m excited to see Arkansas and LSU play Texas A&M as conference rivals. Especially Arkansas.
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by iamjackburton on Oct 15, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Beergut, your school wanted to leave...
…and you left. We can’t just cry in our beer and make thanksgiving a bye in hopes that you’ll come back (nor would we want to). It’s illogical to proselytize about Texas ruining the conference and utter vituperation about the LHN yet think that we still want to maintain relations with someone who thinks we are the Ike to your Tina. I don’t think I’m overstepping my bounds in saying that Texas’ attitude towards your school seems to be something akin to “GTFO.” Your school clearly was tired of living in Texas’s shadow. Go find new rivals and create new childish “traditions.” Maybe you can recycle the whole lower case thing with LSU, or do Vanderbilt’s hand sign upside down. Since we’re talking about Vandy, maybe you could reverse their initials too. Maybe you could also saw Big Al’s tusks off, I don’t know, but the world is your oyster. Have fun.
Beergut, a couple of questions...
In your mind’s eye, should this rivalry continue? If you say yes, what good does it do your institution? It would make sense if Texas was asking to continue, but all reports say it’s your alma mater is the one that can’t let go.
Here you are, tAMU. From Dodd's own mouth
He sounded much less certain about the future of the Texas-Texas A&M rivalry, which dates to 1894.
“We haven’t attended to that,” Powers said Wednesday. “Our focus is on stuff before us now. We did not leave the conference.”
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
good riddance
im sure we’ll play them again sometime but for now i want to replace them with TTU or TCU on thanksgiving
formerly "Horns102591"
And who is that going to be?
I mean I read on here that BYU, ND, Pitt, WVU, Arkansas, etc, were lining up to join the Big 12. None of that was remotely close to true. So I’m a little hesitant to believe these rumors about ND, etc.
This is likely going to go against the majority opinion on this site, and if I get crucifed for it, so be it
I have really mixed feelings about this. The rationale side of me understands why this game has to end, at least for a little while. Aggie left the conference, and we owe them nothing, therefore we’re not going to give them the opportunity to save their season by playing us at the end of the year. We have everything to lose, and they have everything to gain. We’ll be favored in most years, and if we win, cool. We were supposed to. But, if they win, it potentially kills our season while they get redemption after getting pounded in conference play. Not worth it.
The law student side of me understands that we’re contractually obligated with other schools to play. That’s why Deloss specifically said there’s no room until ’18. Not to mention the ethical side of fulfilling your end of those respective bargains.
But, the football fan and Texan in me is incredibly upset to see this go. I saw the new Texas Monthly cover with the Longhorn and Aggie staring at each other at the 50 yard line for the last time, and I was immediately filled with sadness and melancholy. This game means so much to the people of this state. The two schools have the largest alumni bases in the state. The banter, the water cooler talk in the office, the friendly bets, the hatred, the brotherhood, the bragging rights, Thanksgiving night, family, the history, the tradition…it’s all about to be gone. I know that OU is our rival on a national scale, but here in our own state this game has always been so important. Part of me believes the people of this state deserve this game. Maybe some things should be too sacred to let to. Maybe not. Regardless, this particular part of my psyche is going to be really sad when we don’t line up on Turkey day.
If you watch "The Lord of the Rings" backwards it's about this little dude that finds a really cool ring in a volcano and spends the rest of the three movies walking home.
by lnghrn53 on Oct 14, 2011 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
actually I think you might have a more popular opinion then you think
I’m right there with you. but it is what it is. we are just going to have to move on.
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by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 14, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. I hear you
I will say that every time I get to leaning towards the latter of the mindsets an Aggie inevitably opens his or her fucking mouth (See: Beergut above) with no perspective and inane drivel, and my dial immediately bottoms out to the other end of the spectrum.
If you watch "The Lord of the Rings" backwards it's about this little dude that finds a really cool ring in a volcano and spends the rest of the three movies walking home.
right there with you
very infuriating and annoying. but we shall overcome.
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by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 14, 2011 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well said
The rivalry was (past tense) a good one, but its grown more nasty in recent years, personally I think Aggie jealously over being a perpetual number 2 has caused most of the problems. Spend too long trying to keep up with the Joneses will twist you after a while. Personally I’m tired of all the drama and double talk. Let them go find there own way, and in a couple decades we can revisit…
…maybe.
by BurntOrangeForever on Oct 14, 2011 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I just want to move on and only hear about aggy by accident when I'm on ESPN.
Other than that, I never want to see or hear about them again. Traditions are made to be broken so lets make a new one with ND on Thanksgiving at Jerry’s World. Make it happen.
Hook Em Horns!
ND would be a great replacement for Thanksgiving
even though I will miss the A&M rivalry. However, why Jerry’s World. Make it a home and home. Could be an awesome spectacle at both houses.
To quote Motley Crue:
aggie, don’t go away mad
aggie, just go away
repeat ad infinitum with shredding guitar riffs
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I think most people were saying the same thing about hair metal back in the day ;-)
If you watch "The Lord of the Rings" backwards it's about this little dude that finds a really cool ring in a volcano and spends the rest of the three movies walking home.
Sooooo
Are they gonna keep “sawing our horns off” during home games even though they are no longer associated with us athletically? That’s gonna be realllllll awkward for everyone involved
you could saw the tusks off an elephant ala Bama
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
by dukeoforange on Oct 14, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all,
they already do it during games when they’re not playing us, so what’s the difference?
Second, along with the elephant suggestion above, could change it to sawing off a razorback’s tusks as well.
Aggie logic
Aggie logic, the epitome of an oxymoron.
by Hook Em Horns on Oct 18, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Agroids are like a bad made for T.V. movie
Ex-Wife (aggy): Hi ex-hubby (Texas). I know we are split up now because I cheated with someone else and that felt like I needed to get out on my own and not live with you anymore because all the family and friends love you more than me because you were the sole hard-working breadwinner and I was really nothing more than a nagging hanger-on. But Dad-gum you sure do put on a great Thanksgiving. I sure am going to miss that. So, what do you think about me coming over with my new boy friend from the deep South and us dining at your table and eating and drinking everything you have to offer and then make a big plate to go to take with us? You can’t just leave me out by myself can you?
Ex-Husband (Texas): Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn. (key music Eyes of Texas while aggy cries and tries to write new lyrics to fight song using Arkansas and Mississippi State as subject of 3/4 of song). The rest of the country smiles with happiness.
LOVE IT!!
Thats awesome TexasGarcia!!!!
by TexasStateHorn on Oct 14, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen
All it needs is a picture of beergut coming out at the other end of the turkey.
Thanks, but
I stole it from barking carnival. So have to give them credit.
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by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 14, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Aggy thinks they're "moving on" to bigger things, and are Free At Last from their UT shackles
When really, we’re the ones who have been freed of their childish behavior and freaky “traditions”, not to mention the requirement of playing a lesser football program that we’re usually expected to beat. Arrogant? Maybe. Facts are sometimes arrogant, I guess.
We're going to play like we're in a bad mood.
We are monsters
We are going to fall into obscurity. Its all UT’s fault. SEC is the best conference in the world. Aggies are pure honest wholesome team and fanbase. Aggies are going to be the number one team in the number one conference for the next 3 score. UT will soon be begging to be playing the almighty Aggy school and they will look down from their throne on the Mount Olympus of NCAA football and cast a bone of the honor for the Longhorns to even gaze upon Kyle field again. S-E-C S-E-C
Ah!
I’m not the only one still holding out hope…
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I look forward to making much betting dollars off their continual beating at the hands of Bama, Florida, and LSU
Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.
As much as I enjoy the Longhorn-Aggie rivalry, I think that a break of at least six years would be great for both schools and the rivalry in general. Feelings of betrayal on both sides will take some time to die down a bit, and their absence from the schedule will likely make both sides realize that the season doesn’t feel right without closing against each other.
And the rivalry hate never goes away, even if conferences change and there are years between games- TCU fans know what we’re talking about on this point.
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What's up with the hate
Keep the game. There is no revenge or payback by giving them the brushoff. Only pettiness and eventual regret. Admit it. We like playing them on Thanksgiving and we’ll miss it when it’s gone. Keep the game.
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by drankthewine on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
we can find much better matchups
against more like-minded programs that will be a lot more lucrative.
It’s not that we hate the Aggies but that we like other teams more. This is about trading up more than punishing A&M.
Agreed - aggy will fall into the same category as UH and SMU.
We were rivals once but it is hard for me to remember why.
We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.
Hated to see Arkansas leave
Growing up in the 60s, the Arkansas game was frequently for the conference championship. I did a quick look up through when the Hogs departed to see when we played them and aTm with either ranked. The number of times UA was ranked was about 3X the number of times the Aggies were ranked. That’s why the games were so memorable – they mattered, and we were evenly matched.
But, unlike our B/CS brethren, we are not defined by who we play. I missed UA, but got over it when we developed new rivalries with OSU, for example. And the same thing goes IRT aTm. I just won’t spend a moment missing them.
That Arkansas
rivalry got really heated toward the end as well (esp. in basketball) and a break was probably a good thing. I do hear they will soon have a non-conference opening in their football schedule.
Great memory
Of being in the FEC for UA’s last SWC Men’s BB game – UT victory over the #3 ranked Razorbacks. Place was ROCKING. Of course, they pounded us a week later in the SWC tournament at Barnhill South, AKA Reunion Arena. That rivalry was great, but Kansas is a better one.
We play Arkansas in 2014 at Arkansas.
I think this is a make up for a previously canceled game. I believe Arkansas had to cancel a game with us to enter into the aTm game at Jerryworld.
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
by rmaxearnest on Oct 15, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Texas A&M should sit in Thanksgiving time-out until 2018
While I love the empassioned Aggie bashing concerning the potential loss of the traditional Thanksgiving Day affair (except for that short period of time when the Aggies got caught cheating, but I digress), it’s really all about the numbers.
If A&M wants to truly play to the citizens of the great state of Texas, then they should offer to pony up some of that SEC money to pay for half of the cancellation fee for Texas to "back out" of a non-conference game commitment in each of the seasons from 2012 thru 2018. Now according to texassports.com, they only have a full docket of non-conference games (3) thru the 2017 season, but that just may be semantics on the phrase "thru 2018". Either way, the reality is that Texas has 12 games scheduled for at least the next six years. Clearly, it’s not the Longhorns’ responsibility to solely incur the cost & headache of contacting a school to change their agreement. That’s where A&M could come into help.
However, after looking at the schedules, how would Texas determine who not to play? – http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/fb-future-schedules.html
In 2012, Wyoming should get the buy-out since in 2013…
In 2013, New Mexico would be the more obvious choice
In 2014, North Texas would seem to be easy target for cancellation
Now comes murderer’s row (i.e. good luck figuring out which one each season to cancel) -
In 2015, that’s the hard one as Notre Dame brings TV attention & Rice (Houston) & Cal bring recruiting trips
In 2016, similar dilemma to 2015 as UTEP game plays up to the Hispanic market
In 2017, Maryland, USC, & UCF are all opportunities for recruiting.
There are some hen-pecking of seasons that could go on where UT plays A&M, but why do that if it can’t be every year? Plus, why add A&M to the next six years & create what could be in some years the hardest schedule in college football? That’s why I hypothesize that Texas will ultimately put A&M in the corner for six years to think about what they’ve done only to resume the series in 2018.
Of course, my small disclaimer is that Jerry Jones could swoop in at any time & offer BCS type monies to secure the rights at any time to secure Texas vs A&M at Jerry World for the rest of our lives. In a subtle dig at both schools, I think we have all seen that both schools have a price. It’s just now a matter of haggling.
Hook ’em!
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Treat the Aggies like any other midlevel, out of conference team.
Offer them a 2-3 game at Ut to 0-1 game at TAMU series. Offer to be renewed at your option.
Then see if they still want to play.
Public Service Announcement: 11/01/11, 7:00 p.m., Kansas Jayhawks vs: Pittsburg St. Gorillas. . . Something to take their mind off of 10/15/11, 8:15 p.m.
In a broader sense, I think the Big 12-2 should place a moratorium
on playing any SEC team for maybe 10 years. Punish them for poaching.
Great players make great coaches, but great coaches make champions." DKR circa 1964
Now, now...let's not go breaching contracts
That’d be so aggie.
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by burntorangehorn on Oct 15, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Didnt the Aggies have another de-commit this week?
I thought the SEC was going to allow them to be a recruiting powerhouse
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Aggie Logic...
Texas A&M’s record against the Big 12 and SEC
Big 12 – 200 Wins / 178 Losses = 52.80% Winning percentage
SEC -79 Wins / 58 Losses = 42.66% Winning percentage
Aggie logic dictates their move to the SEC is completely reasonable.
What is it Tammy doesn't understand about the statement?
We have no room on our schedule for you.
Now go play in that conference where you have a 42% winning record (and leave the Big 12, where you have a 52% winning record).
Be all you can be, fake army.
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