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Sundays with Bill, OSU Recap Edition

Tough loss yesterday in a game that very well could have Texas' way. There's some positives in the loss, but also some concerns.
Talking points:
* The positives: Carrington Byndom going head to head with Justin Blackmon, Malcolm Brown's big day, D.J. Monroe continues to impress, Mike Davis is back hopefully.
* The negatives: lack of pass rush, run defense, offensive play calling in the red zone, the turnover bug.
* Moving forward with Ash
* Recruiting notes : confirmed visitors at the OSU game, the Daje Johnson Offer Mystery Hour, of the 5 2012 QBs (Childress, Armstrong, Barnes, Millweard, and Overstreet) being considered by Texas which one do you want the most? Does Texas take a flyer on Trevor Knight?
* Thankfully no realignment news of note.

I've a couple aspirin to get over the OSU loss. I'm ready to go, fire away with your questions. Let's start the discussion.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Ash

Good to see the coaches going with Ash, I feel there’s more potential with Ash than McCoy.

by pchanx69 on Oct 16, 2011 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree. David has a lot of work to do, but he doesn’t have the physical limitations that Case does. Harsin seems to have made a decision and he’s moving forward with Ash as his quarterback.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Case?

Will Case get a full game to see how he does? Or is Ash the man from here on out?

by Wongworns on Oct 16, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ash is the man from here on out. Texas will take their lumps this year in the hopes of building for next year.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What recruting info you got for me?

give me something good… I would come up with a better more fleshed out topic, but I am kinda busy working on seminal papers for a archival article…

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

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by laxtonto on Oct 16, 2011 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Jake Oliver was at the Texas game instead of the TAMU game. Both were very high profile games pitting ranked teams against one another, and Oliver went with Texas. Could be something, could be nothing. Conservatively, I’d say t’s a good sign, nothing more.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is good enough... Better news than I expected

thanks buddy… If I come up with some real questions Ill check back.. Or if I need a break from this before I kill someone…

Keep up the good work man..

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by laxtonto on Oct 16, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will do.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Confirmed visitors at the OSU Game

2012 Shreveport, LA Woodlawn DE / LB Torshiro Davis
2013 Dallas Jesuit WR Jake Oliver
2012 Pflugerville Hendrickson ATH Daje Johnson
2012 Scottsdale, AZ Chaparral QB Connor Brewer (Texas commit)
2013 Weimar OT Ja’Braylin Thomas
2013 Livingston ATH Chevoski Collins
2012 Austin High WR Cayleb Jones (Texas commit)
2013 Bastrop CB Antwuan Davis
2013 DeSoto RB Dontre Wilson
2012 Brownwood DB Kevin Vacarro (Texas greyshirt offer)
2013 Mansfield DB George Baltimore
2012 Mansfield DE Hassan Ridgeway (Texas commit)

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

QB position

Any word on how Case is handling the demotion? I heard he sat on the bench a majority of the game and seemed detached

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

When I saw him on the sideline he had the head phones on and was helping with calls and signals. Tough deal for Case. We’ll see what happens.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Spill

What’s the scoop with Daje, and what’s the latest with those 5 QBs? Muchos Gracias

by SelimSivad on Oct 16, 2011 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

As I said on Friday, the Texas coaches have reached out to the Houston Kinkaid staff about Ford Childress. They also requested film. Texas also requested film on 2012 Tatum QB / ATH Jalen Overstreet. Those are two most recent QB recruiting developments.

Nothing yet on Daje Johnson receiving a Texas offer yet. Honestly, I think Texas is waiting for him to decommit from TCU before they offer. In the past that’s how the Texas staff has preferred to deal with committed recruits.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I talked with Christian Morgan this afternoon

Christian watched the Texas game yesterday from home and he said he was very encouraged that Texas fought hard and was able to hang with OSU. I hope other recruits share his view.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

mccoy

With ash getting the starting nod do u think case transfers and if he does how many qbs do we take in the next two classes??

by nvlonghorn on Oct 16, 2011 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I do think Case will transfer. I’ve heard Case transferring last season was close to happening.

I think Texas MUST take 2 QBs in 2012. Brewer is well aware of the situation, and understands.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jaxon Shipley

I wasn’t expecting Ash to have telepathic communication with Shipley like the McCoys do, but I also don’t understand why Shipley didn’t get many touches. What do you think>?

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by Wrangler86 on Oct 16, 2011 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Shipley has to have more passes thrown his way.

by Wongworns on Oct 16, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to tell on TV

But I saw open receivers and I wonder if Ash just needs more confidence to start cutting loose. Hard to remember he was playing in high school last year. But, I just know Shipley was open at times.

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by Wrangler86 on Oct 16, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goodwin was also open a few times, and Ash targeted Davis instead.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

OSU put all of their coverage focus on Shipley

If you review our film from this season, it’s pretty easy to get the impression that he is the only wideout worth a damn.

by EHorn on Oct 16, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ash seems to have better chemistry than Mike Davis. I’d also like to see Shipley get more touches.

I think Ash threw way too often yesterday. 40 passes in a game shouldn’t happen again this season. Malcolm Brown needs to average at least 20 carries from here on out. Fozzy also needs to get more touches, he’s Texas best playmaker right now.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Foz was exhausted by the end of the game

He is now returning all those kickoffs, which is both physically draining and dangerous.

He is also the wild qb, plays in the slot some and tb, of course.

Foz was so tired by the end of the game he was not running well. Probably Foz needs fewer touches at TB, since carries from the TB position tend to be punishing.

Monroe could pick up the slack with more touches at tb.

by Kafka on Oct 16, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's a depressing thought

If Case transfers and Shipley starts getting used less, might he transfer with Case, especially if he thinks Case is not getting a fair deal?

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by OBdoc on Oct 16, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strongly disagree with that notion. Shipley is at Texas to stay. Why would he leave a great opportunity at Texas to go with Case? They’re close, but they’re not so close that Jaxon would make a poor decision.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting question

but Ship wants to play on Sundays and it is hard to get to the nfl from Abilene Christian.

by Kafka on Oct 16, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our new coordinators

do you think they were overrated or are they just limited with lack of player that they need to successfully implement their schemes?

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Diaz’s defense is limited because it doesn’t have excellent pass rushers. His whole defensive philosophy is based on getting to the QB. Does Texas have a consistent pass rusher?

Harsin’s offense is limited because of the quarterback. Ash is better than Case, but the QB play isn’t anywhere close where it needs to be. Texas needs to run the ball even more, and not get cute in the red zone. If you’re in 4 down territory and inside the 10, run the ball on every down.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You can't run effectively inside if the DC overloads the box

which is what OSU DC was doing. A DC can force you to pass by overloading the box (for example, by putting 8 in the box). Everybody we play from here on in will try to force Ash to throw the ball.

Having said that, a short easy throw to Monroe or Foz in the flat is going to be tough to defend if 8 defenders are jammed into the box.

by Kafka on Oct 16, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fozzy

I think Fozzy will make a NFL team next year because he can really return kicks. It’s even possible that he get drafted if he continues his excellent senior season.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Personally

I am really happy he is doing so well. I rooted for him alot, like PB, and it always broke my heart to see him get hurt when he was such a talented and team oriented guy.

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by dukeoforange on Oct 16, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love him

Great to see him finally healthy. Kid is just absolutely playing his ass off.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s amazing what a good S & C coach can do. Wylie is largely to thank for keeping Fozzy healthy.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Texas Triplets

encouraged by the freshmen triplets of Ash,Brown and Shipley.If we get all four years out of them we will be very potent on offense.

The offenseive line just seems adequate.What can be done to improve it Bill?

Also how much blame should be attached to Greg Davis for Gilbert’s failure and the development of McCoy?

by TCB Orange Dino on Oct 16, 2011 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the OL will get better with Cochran starting at LT. Great development in Josh Cochran coming on as a starting LT. He’s way ahead of schedule. I also think Flowers needs to start and Snow needs to come off the bench. I know playing more freshman at OL sounds strange, but Texas has gotten better play from the youngsters.

At the end, it’s one Gilbert to improve. Sure Davis isn’t blameless, but Davis at the OC didn’t stop Colt and Vince from being Heisman finalists.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The offense will get even better next year with Johnathan Gray in the fold. I think Texas should run it close to 60 percent the remainder of this year and next year.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m getting excited about next year with the two headed monster in Gray and Brown the run game is going to be out of control!!!!!

by nvlonghorn on Oct 16, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

2012 can’t get here soon enough. I think Gray and Brown will cover up a lot of shortcomings next year.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

With an improved and more experienced OL, QBs, and WRs, those shortcomings won’t exist in such stark display, lol.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Texas will be able to control the time of possession better next year, and keep the defense very rested.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any comments by the recruits at the game? Nice comment by Morgan. Yep, do hope more recruits look at it that way.
Mack needs to wake up and offer Daje. Screw the fact that he is committed. Offer and get him.

What do you think of Kevin getting a grey shit offer?

I could not believe we were in 5 wides at the goaline.

What happened to trying to get a 5 yard our or curl with the TE? Doesn’t have to be a long pass.

With both S playing up, I feel we should have thrown it deep to Goodwin once to back them up early 2nd quarter. (either my guy runs under it or no one gets it). We did it to Ship2 4th Q I believe, but he was well out.

Liked what I saw from Ash for the most part. Good job throwing it away when nothing was there, just learn to hold on the ball when u get hit and to get it out by the 3 second clock in ur head. Hope we continue to go with Ash the rest of the way.

Will never happen but we need 2 JC players in next years class, probably at DL. No push at all(3 plays all game).

Our coordinators made a couple of mistake but that’s bound to happen, they need to pick it up a bit also.

WR need more routes where they can continue to run after the catch. Not JUST 5 yard outs and curls.

Fozzy could very well be a late round draft pick, will def get on a roster next year(barring injury).

by TheContractor on Oct 16, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Texas even in losses, can sell some nice things to recruits. That’s why we had a top 5 recruiting class in 2011 despite a bad 2010 season. We see a loss, a recruit might see a chance to play. They’re funny like that.

I can’t figure out what’s going on with Daje and Texas. I will say he’s ours when we want him, and that won’t change.

I think the greyshirt offer to Vacarro is appropriate. There are better 2012 options at DB right now. 2013 would be a better year to take Kevin. 2013 isn’t deep at DB.

Agreed. Texas should pound the rock in the red zone.

I think Denico Autry needs to be given serious consideration by Texas. He could have an instant impact coming out of East Mississippi Junior College. The Texas pass rush must get better next year period.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

disagree on Vacarro

He’ll still be a reach in 2013.

by bigdukesix on Oct 17, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've actually been shocked by the confidence placed in Ash,

by both the coaches and the majority of fans. I was at the OU game and watched OSU on TV, but in both instances I felt like Ash played poorly. Neither impressed anyone in the OU game, but I still thought Case had a better sense of when to scramble and get rid of the ball. In both games, it seemed to me like Ash would panic after his first read was covered, and he takes way too long in the pocket. His accuracy is bad too. It’s clear that Ash has a much stronger arm, but I think Case is more of a play maker. Again, I’m shocked the coaches seemed to have already made their decision. Personally, I think Case should be our starter, or at the very least should be given more of a chance in a big game. Are these valid points or am I smoking something?

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by UTgrad'08 on Oct 16, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ash has had some growing pains, but we can’t see what the coaches see in practice. If you trust the new coaches, you have to trust their decision to go with Ash.

The sledding will get much easier against Kansas. I think David can have a big game.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

What is everyone wanting case start he is not his brother people need to realize this and with ash he is a TRUE FRESHMEN he is going to have growing pains he has more upside than McCoy!!!

by nvlonghorn on Oct 16, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there’s part of the fanbase that like Case because of the UCLA game and his last name. It’s understandable, but I think going with Ash is the better move. Ash is going to make some mistakes, but he can make plays that Case could NEVER make.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is very early to tell, but I respectfully disagree.

The main thing is, I don’t think EITHER qb has truly made a strong case (no pun intended) for themselves. Like I said, both played horrible in the OU game. Case was 9/16 for 116 yds in the Cotton Bowl and had no picks, while Ash was 11/20 for 107 yards, 2 picks, 1 TD. Granted, Case had those 2 bad fumbles, but how does that performance earn Ash the starting position? His 22/40 for 139 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT performance yesterday is not compelling. Also, keep in mind Ash’s stats for this year are 46/79, 459 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT; McCoy’s are 35/53, 451 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, and he’s played ONE LESS GAME than Ash.
I personally don’t care about Case’s last name because I doubt he will be as good as Colt. What I do worry about is Ash becoming Gilbert 2.0. How are people sold on Ash all of the sudden?

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by UTgrad'08 on Oct 16, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

People are not universally sold on Ash

One offers long term upside that gels with what the OC’s want to do, the other does not. It’s really pretty simple. It’s not a situation where one guy outplays the other, but the second gets in because of natural talent. They’ve played reasonably equally, but one is younger and more talented. Coaches should be commended for making a tough choice.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again, I disagree. I think the qb situation should continue to be fluid.

But Ash must be making waves in practice. It’ll be interesting to see what happens in the next 6 games.

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by UTgrad'08 on Oct 16, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

On which part?

About the coaches being commended?

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

It’s a tough call to make. But I think they are making it too early.

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by UTgrad'08 on Oct 16, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's fair

It’s a tough spot. I look forward to the yield from Ash next year though, which I just can’t see coming from Case.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Other than the home schedule, there’s a lot to look forward in 2012.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

neither

Have looked good. Cases best play bounced off a defender into Davis’s hands. Fact is both were horrible vs OU. Ash look very tentative after the pick. Held the ball too long on a couple plays. That said he did mAke some nice plays with his legs. I am ok with people saying Case has “it”, mostly because I have no idea what that means. Case gets happy feet in the pocket. So does Ash, but with his ability he has a chance to run for a first, Case doesn’t have that ability.

by codaxx on Oct 16, 2011 8:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This would have to be guesswork, I suppose . . .

What do we do about a backup QB next season?

I see us taking Brewer and maybe 2 more, one of whom might be a change-of-pace QB who could honcho the Wildhorn Pkg. But all would be fresh out of HS. Is there some way we create a more experienced QB by switching someone already on the roster to QB? I’d love to do that with with Y-2K, but I see him as critical to our safety picture.

Thanks for your expertise.

by edsp on Oct 16, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d be surprised if Texas takes more than 2 QBs in the 2012 class. Personally, it scares the hell out of me with Brewer as a back up. I’d take a less talented, more polished QB with the hopes of redshirting Connor and using the other QB as a back up.

That being said, a college ready freshman QB won’t fall from the sky.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any chance we pick up a JUCO or other transfer?

This seems a real need next year if the McCoy transfer theory plays out. To solve this, do you think the staff would consider a JUCO transfer or a transfer from another school? Would a quality QB be available (and willing) to fill the back-up role? I cannot remember Texas ever picking up a JUCO transfer.

by Cuernos on Oct 16, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great game by Byndum!! Diggs played ok.

Any update on injury to Phillips?

We need to get Thompson and Turner some reps at S this ye

by TheContractor on Oct 16, 2011 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I haven’t seen anything on Phillips’ injury, might have to wait until the presser tomorrow until we know more. I pray that Adrian is alright. Would be a huge loss.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you’re right it’s not on the LHN channel guide.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harsin's Reputation

is to make good in-game adjustments and attack the defense’s weakness. If this is true, why did Harsin decide to stop running the ball when clearly OSU could not stop our run game?

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I was thinking about that very question last night and this morning. Honestly, I don’t know. From Harsin’s post game comments, he saw something in OSU’s defense that he thought he could attack. If so, OSU fooled him. Texas should have ran the ball more especially in the red zone.

Harsin is still learning how the Big 12 works.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't it because OSU loaded the box so Harsin had to make them respect the pass?

If teams put 8 in the box we need Harsin to allow, encouarge, and enable Ash to throw it to all parts of the field. A lot of this is also on the receivers to get open and also adapt better. We also need to try throwing to our backs on screens and mixing in delays. Also, how many deep passes did we try yesterday? World class speed and we’re not mixing in more unabaahed verticals why?

Anyway, I have faith that Ash will speed up his reads and also lern to give the backs the ball on options instead of always keeping it himself. With every snap he gains a little experience and will start to see the game better.

by KevinJ on Oct 16, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

Harsin mentioned they loaded the box, but it didn’t really appear so in watching the game. They generally had 7 guys in there and even when they had 8 we still had success. So there’s really no legitimate excuse, other than that Bill Young did something to fool him. OSU seemed more like they were playing the big play almost the entire game, to me.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, I think Harsin took whatever bait Bill Young put out for him. 40 passes is way too much.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I respect ypur opinion, but totally disagree

We didnt score points yesterday not because we didn’t run it enought but because we were too predictable. How many crappy option reads went for 2 or 3 yards. Just because Malcolm had a few nice runs, just because we’re all programmed to think not losing yards running is good thanks to Greg Davis doesn’t mean we’re a dominant running team. Want to be dominant, get a better OL. That takes time. Until en, make people defend the whole field and those short runa become long runs and those field goals and punts turn into touchdowns.

by KevinJ on Oct 16, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

We saw what happened with that strategy

Our linemen simply can’t hold up enough in pass pro. Also, “A few nice runs” by Malcolm could have been “A lot of nice runs” by Malcolm if we had stuck to it more.

Maybe it would have worked, maybe not, but if something is working, how is it logical to spite yourself by trying to do something else? Ash and the pass-pro of the OL are our biggest offensive weaknesses right now. Why put the game on their shoulders? That doesn’t makes sense to me.

I agree that the ZR wasn’t working well do to the pretty pitiful blocking on it, especially by the WRs.

We may not be a dominant running team, but that doesn’t mean we can’t win the game that way or that it’s not a better strategy than forcing our true frosh QB to scramble around like a crazy man in the backfield with WRs that he doesn’t have the rapport with to get open in the scramble game.

One was working, the other wasn’t.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

*due to

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

What if Tyrone Swoopes

Is the QB?

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well played sir...

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by dukeoforange on Oct 16, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

has Notre Dame decided to join the Big 12 yet?

lol jkjk i was very concerned about the run D yesterday any thoughts?

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by horns1025 on Oct 16, 2011 5:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Pass rush is or a push up front was nonexistent. Serious breakdowns in run defense. Hicks might need to sit on rushing downs.

Texas is through the most difficult part of their schedule. So there’s that.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

ive been concerned about the Run D since that aweful K-State game

looking at the schedule ahead we have two teams left that REALLY like to run it in A&M and K-State if we cant stop their run i dont think we have a chance in hell of winning

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by horns1025 on Oct 16, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those are the 2 games that concern me the most on the schedule. Both stand in our way of winning 10 games.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

fan complacency w progress instead of w's

Really bugs me this year. I understand that we need to be pleased w improvement this year but I am still pissed that we lost a very winnable game. What should our mind set be as tx fans this year?

by feltgod on Oct 16, 2011 5:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't think

Being admittedly unreasonable is the solution. Fans should be proud of themselves for understanding context of college football landscape. Last year was unacceptable. This year is a consequence of that.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

What should Texas do fire everyone? Start over? Absolutely not. There are some nice things that Texas can still accomplish this year, but this team should build for 2012.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crowd

This is a building block for next year but we do need to get to 8 wins for many reasons.

Was at the game yesterday and was very disappointed in the crowd. Noise, energy. Its shameful when u compare it to Lsu, Aggie, Oregon fans. Someone texted me that the announcers even mentioned it in the 3rd quarter.

by TheContractor on Oct 16, 2011 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

TV announcers

Pointed out the lack of involvement.

We're Texas, We're not OK.

by Wrangler86 on Oct 16, 2011 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

pointed out

They did more than point it out. Mc Donough ridiculed the crowd. He said the crowd booed the officials louder than they ever cheered for the Horns.

by b&g80 on Oct 16, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only that

But said that they loudly booed the officials, incorrectly, 3 straight times.

by UPB13 on Oct 16, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The did mention it

Unfortunately, they mentioned it on offense, which made zero sense. I’m the first to point out how terrible UT fans are at any sporting event with regards to crowd noise, but you simply do not intentionally make a lot of noise during your OWN possession in football and two guys as old as McDonough and Millen should know that.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would y’all rather have organized cheers led by milk men?

We are we are. When Texas is good, the crowd is good.

The announcers. Really guys, do we care what Matt Millen has to say?

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the OU loss sucked a lot out of our fan base

I think the crowd yesterday was just hung over from the RRR

by BEW on Oct 16, 2011 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

updates on edwards and dgb

Have u heard ne thing from either camp about visits I know Edwards “rescheduled” his visit and what all star game is Edwards playing??

by nvlonghorn on Oct 16, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Should have something on DGB soon. I’ve stayed in contact with someone covering the situation locally in Missouri.

Haven’t heard anything on Edwards since last week. I anticipate some official visit news soon.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

My biggest concern has been the lack of an effective screen game

The lack of a a consistent RB screen has been a real surprise to me

JD’s like, "you want some f*&#ing pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, b*#&hes!"- RCCook

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by laxtonto on Oct 16, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Screen game is beyond perplexing

It takes longer to develop than seemingly everybody’s in the country. Stark contrast with OU and OSU.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I have concerns with executing the screens. Should improve or get shelved.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

run defense

Bill, you make a great point about our Run D. Please elaborate on WHAT the hell is going on that we can allow such long td runs against our D. I barely ever see those types of runs and now two weeks in a row, i’ve seen 3 of them against our D.

i mean is it because of Manny’s schemes or did a player make a mistake? this is really getting absurd

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Poor decision making, poor instincts from the LBs, namely Jordan Hicks. An adjustment needs to be made. I hope we see more Edmond.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I wish Texas had kept a safety back. Texas got caught in some run blitzes, and the missed.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game visitors

Is there a limit on the number of recruits a school can invite to come visit a game during each year? I noticed on your post that we had Connor Brewer in as a game visitor and wondered if it was by design to bring in visitors along with already commited recruits to act as a quasi marketing guy to talk-up the program to the other visitors.
Thanks again for the great work, Bill.

by GOP Horn on Oct 16, 2011 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I think there’s a limit on official visitors. I don’t believe there’s a limit on unofficial visitors. It’s good that Brewer is at so many home games.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's something

Like 55?

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll have to defer to Wes on that one. I know it’s unlimited for the spring game.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saw something about this the other day

Can’t remember where now. Dammit.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking our recruiting coordinator is a very busy man

With so many potential recruits you want to bring in “unofficially” to watch a game, trying to pick which games to bring them in to prevent sideline caos with too many recruits crowding the sideline, etc. I get major tired-head thinking of all the juggling and scheduling and trying to stay in compliance…kinda like the NCAA version of an air traffic controller.

by GOP Horn on Oct 16, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s a very difficult job. A lot goes into every recruit visiting Texas.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It looked like Cody Johnson had a good game

seems like we could use him more or is he a progress stopper for Bergeron?

Also why did the passes to the TE dissapper when they were so effectivein past games?

by TCB Orange Dino on Oct 16, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Cody had some good blocks, but he needs to get out of the way. He had 2 “tackles” on offense. One of which was likely a touchdown by Fozzy.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cody

It seems that Harsin is making most of his own decisions on the offensive side. It also seems to be the common cocensus, outside of Matt Millen, that Cody has some major holes in his game. Why would Harsind continue to play Cody if we had someone who could do a better job?

by b&g80 on Oct 16, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roberson might be able to do a better job

Part of it is probably a “deal with the devil” type thing that the coaches did with Chiles in moving him to WR. Again, though, a lot of it goes back to just not having that position prepared for under Greg Davis’s spread passing offense with Colt.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He had problems dude

He looked totally lost on two differnt blocking assignmemts, hitting Jaxon most notably. He needs to learn to drive his block until the whistle or get his head on a swivel not stand around with his thumb where it doesn’t belong.

by KevinJ on Oct 16, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Cody is just not a consistent blocker. He may have some nice blocks, but your job as a FB is simple compared to the rest of the offense. He doesn’t pay attention to what is happening in the game, far too often.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

seems like he is thinking instead of reacting

Because being a Texas fan means never having to say you're sorry.

by dukeoforange on Oct 16, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never good.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless you're a fan after a loss to a top 10 team.

I’m looking at you people who are calling for new coordinators’ heads.

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by HookTech on Oct 16, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Second QB

My choice would be Ford Childress. Big time sleeper.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Childress a late bloomer? What kind of player would he be?

I seem to recall that Ash — even though he was well regarded and was an early commit — had kind of a breakout senior season in HS. Or is that my faulty memory?

by edsp on Oct 16, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

David did have a very strong senior season after being hurt his junior year.

Childress isn’t necessarily a late bloomer, he’s just stayed under the radar. He hasn’t gone to many camps and he plays in TAPPS. A perfect combo for keeping your recruitment quiet.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Childress the most because he runs and throws well, and has excellent size. Level of competition is the only concern with Childress. I think the other can do some nice things, but Childress is the most complete player.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm among those not sold completely on DAsh yet.

I don’t see anything he has done on the field that has led to him becoming the obvious choice for starter. I didn’t see him attempt one throw that Case could not make. In fact wasn’t DAsh 0 for 4 on passes over 14 yards yesterday?

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by TheBlanton on Oct 16, 2011 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Ash is practicing better, and has higher upside. It’s very difficult to tell what’s happening privately.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Torshiro Davis

I just read some encouraging quotes on Orangebloods about Torshiro Davis. To paraphrase, Texas is moving up Davis’ list, but is still behind LSU.

A speed rusher like Davis, is a huge need in the 2012 class.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

How disappointed

Are you in our DE and LB play? Preseason reports had these groups as our strength but it seems the secondary has been the bright part of the season thus far

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 7:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Not sure

I could be more disappointed with the play of either. Both were supposed to be among the top units in the country. Neither are among the top units in the conference.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The LBs were supposed to be the best corps in 25 years at Texas. Acho18 and Edmond are very good, but who else has played well?

I have no idea what happened to Jeffcoat’s pass rushing ability. Okafor was also supposed to be a threat off the edge. I believe Wilson and Dr. Johnson should play more, Okafor and Jeffcoat seem to be a in funk for lack of a better explanation.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robinson and Hicks

Bill,

It seems you are very high on edmonds but low on hicks and robinson, can you elaborate more on why?

by jtdoes on Oct 16, 2011 7:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Edmond has excellent football instincts. When he gets snaps, he makes plays and fills his gap. Hicks and Robinson have had severe problems filling their gaps. Hicks especially. Robinson is playing out of position, and this is Hicks first season as a starter.

I’d like to see Texas’ base defense consist of Acho and Robinson at OLB, and Edmond at MLB. Hicks would probably be better served coming off the bench. He’s had a rough 2 games. Hicks picked the wrong gap on two very long runs against OU and OSU.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprisingly high for U of H. I’m not sure they’re OOC schedule to strong enough to get them into the BCS busting conversation.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

OU #3 and OSU #4

We just played 2 top 5 teams in back-to-back weeks. OSU is #1 in computers.

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by TXStampede on Oct 16, 2011 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

We’re doomed. Haha.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

DGB and Mario Edwards - have we lost them both to OU?

We’re Texas.
We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I think OU probably leads for Edwards, but it’s not over yet with Edwards and FSU.

I think the DGB race is a bit muddled. OU probably leads, but some teams are close behind. I’d say the DGB top 4 is OU, Mizzou, Arkansas and Texas.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has been mentioned in passing

but my question concerns next year. I have been very surprised by Fozzy. He will be a big loss. Can it be made up by a freshman J. Gray? Of course I guess you would factor in better play by OL, QB and even improvement from Malcolm Brown.

by BEW on Oct 16, 2011 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Gray will be better than Fozzy instantly

He is a special, special football player.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how we’ll replace Fozzy on kickoffs. It could be Gray, but it’s risky to put the future of the program back there on kicks. Offensively, Texas won’t miss Fozzy with Gray in the fold.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't find it in the Houston Chronicle - Aledo boxscore

But someone said that Superman scored a dozen or so more TD’s. A friend of mine has seen two Aledo games and says that Gray is the greates HS back he has ever seen.
And this dude watched Campbelkl and Peterson both play in their High school hay days.

PLEASE tellme that Gray is a solid lock for UT and OU is not creeping around his backdoor!

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If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Gray is solid to Texas. Off the top of my head, Gray had 14 carries for 242 and 6 TDs in his last game.

OU hasn’t been under consideration by the Grays since very early in the process.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No indication at all

That Gray is interested in anybody but UT. He’s a huge burnt orange guy.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

GoHornsGo90 - You are pretty emphatic about recruits and inside info

What is your connection to all of that?

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We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No personal connection

But a lot of the insider sites talk to him consistently and he’s always super burnt orange. Most of the time when a recruit is “open” to changing schools, it gets out pretty quickly. For instance, Thomas Johnson was considering taking other visits, the coaches weren’t trying to hear it, and it didn’t happen.

Gray is just one of the last guys in the class that would switch (along with Brewer, Jones, DLT, and a few others) and he was never seriously considering OU in his decision-making process.

If he were to go anywhere else, it would likely be TCU or even A&M. He also has repeatedly expressed an interest in a 2-RB system with MB. Just don’t see any reason why he’d switch, particularly given A) our running success this season and B) our willingness to play Brown early in his career.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we get back to our offensive performance and Ash ?

I have mixed feelings on Ash, but I was really surprised that Harsin would put this much pressure (43 pass plays) on a true freshman in his first start against a top 5 team. Makes no sense to me other than our OC has as much to learn about the Big 12 as our freshman QB.
The running game was working and our QB was not recognizing blitzes, no checking off, and obviously had no grasp of the coverages….and yet Harsin continued to call pass plays.
Football 101 says when something is working (the running game) you keep doing it until the defense stops it. Harsin kept going to the pass .
OU and OSU took Harsin to school last week, but it didn’t look like the lesson took.
We need to emphasis our running game and gradually bring Ash up to speed or we will have another GG Head Case running the show.

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by MeatchickenHorn on Oct 16, 2011 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed 40 + passes is way too much. Need to run the ball more. Texas needs to keep defenses honest, but they can accomplish that with 15 -20 passes a game from Ash. David should be a game manager from here on out. I don’t think he can win a game by himself right now.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Or we will have another GG head case"

I’m not sure about that. I’d guess Ash is going to be a bit more mentally tough. I’ve heard some things from people who have connections to the Gilbert family and it sounds like Gilbert’s anxiety issues that affected his play may have some roots in his family environment.

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by HookTech on Oct 16, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry about Ash - the season is set - he IS the dude!

Now, if we can just get him and the other youngsters through the season without giving up a game through stupidity, we will be ok.

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If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

If we’re building towards next year, I think more youngsters need to play. Flowers and Cochran should start.

I’d like to see Thompson and Evans play more at safety.

Edmond should play more at MLB. Benson and Tevin Jackson should also see more snaps.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

KU

Would be a great game to faze in Mykkele and Sheroid for possibly injured seniors Scott and Gideon. Phillips is obviously part of the future, but he could be hurt as well.

KU’s also a good game to start getting the young LBs in, as they aren’t going to be able to pass all over us like OU did and will have to run to keep us honest. Edmond could be very prolific in that game.

Cochran starting is a great start; let’s see the trend continue.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets just hope that Harsin gets this figured out pretty quick, so we can avoid another GG scenario

We could have won the game on Saturday if we would have stayed with the running game, especially in the red zone. If we come out throwing against the next few teams, we will barely make 5-7 again.

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by MeatchickenHorn on Oct 16, 2011 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't necessarily agree with your premise
We could have won the game on Saturday if we would have stayed with the running game

I don’t know that we had ANY chance to win the game, frankly. OSU played a cover 2 against us all night with pretty good success against the run with damned good succes against the pass.

They were a superior TEAM and deserved to win. We showed fight and promise and WILL win next year and the year after.
If you can’t see this then you’ve never played football.

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We don’t derive our value or self-definition from conference affiliation.
If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh dear

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you go back through the game, the vast majority of our drives were stopped because of our pass plays

Our runs not only achieved twice as much yardage per attempt, but they didn’t require our first time starting, QB, to read coverages, recognize blitzes, or make decisions. yes OSU is good, but our D was doing enough to slow them down where a couple of more successful drives could have put us over the top and I do recognize we are building and probably will back in the drivers seat in the next few years. And yes, I did play ball.

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by MeatchickenHorn on Oct 16, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bill or Blake help me out here

I see were at 18 recruits for this class as of now. How many more recruits do you think we will take in by signing day. And out of anymore recruits UT gets do you think there will be any shockers the same way we got Jeffcoat and Hicks

by kcmorse on Oct 16, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I think we could go a full 25 due to the QB attrition

One OT, one QB, one DL, two DB, and one WR/DB seem to be necessary right now, which would be 24. The other spot would likely be an APB like Daje Johnson.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is no doubt that Texas take one more OT in this class. It’s must. Armstead is the in state contingency plan.

I think Texas will take one more corner and a corner / safety hybrid.

I think they’ll take a DE. This could be the toughest position to fill.

They should take another ATH / utility back type of player. Daje Johnson is the leading candidate.

I wouldn’t rule out another DT. There could be attrition there. Round Rock’s Glen Antoine is likely the leading candidate.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would like to see

Javonte Magee’s Sr. film. Hookem.com is absolutely in love with him. He could be very good as a huge and disruptive DT, which would give us more flexibility with Norman as a DE and assuage that rather stark need.

QB: Barnes
RB: Johnson
OT: Armstead
DT: Magee
DB: Coleman
DB: Sanders

Something like that to close out the class.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeffcoat wasn’t a shocker. Hicks was surprising because it’s difficult to take recruits away from tOSU, or it was. Both had Texas in their top 2-3 the whole time, but made their decisions very late in the process.

Texas is really taking their time with the 2012 class. I thought new offers would already have gone out. There’s plenty of senior film on all the players being evaluated. They could be waiting out the OOS recruits. I just hope they’re staying in contact with the contingency plans.

I think 23 is plausible, 25 is within the realm of possibility. There seems to be a feeling that attrition is coming after the season.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correct. His sister plays basketball at OU.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d add that Jeffcoat played on some club basketball teams with Christian Morgan. The two are friends. Interesting connection.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone whould just relax and understand that HELL is coming to the Big 12 next year

and it’s called the Longhorns. We havebrilliant, exciting coaches and raw talent that is developing and will be the engine that ushers Bob Stoops out of the league into the NFL next year.

My prediction – Mack will retire in two years (with two CC’s and a NC game under his belt) and Peterson will be the new head coach

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If that strikes people as cocky, so what? It’s also true. None of us will chant our conference’s name when we have an off year and Texas Tech wins their bowl game. Our definition of self comes from us – not our conference, not our rivals, not media perception.

by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Petersen and Urban Meyer seem to be the succession candidates most frequently mentioned. Mack and Urban are very close.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows what in his heart and in his mind, but Urban seems to like and admire Texas.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd for keeping away filthy saban

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by dukeoforange on Oct 16, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t see Nick Saban leaving Alabama for another college job.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, if you want a real a$$h..e, that will win games

Then Jim Harbaugh is your man. I love him and so would the kids.!

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

saban

I know it sounds crazy, but I have no desire to see Saban. I think the chance he leaves is minimal, but way too much smoke around that program. Not to mention he almost single handily kept Texas in the NC game.

by codaxx on Oct 17, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reggie Wilson

Bill do you think reggie willson should start over Jeffcoat. In the spring game he looked like a beast rushing the passer.

by MarcosSantos on Oct 16, 2011 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Shouldn’t start, but Wilson should play in more passing downs. Have to generate more of a pass rush, period.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Urban is a good coach, but for my money I will take Petersen (NOT Peterson)

meatchickenhorn – Gundy could have gone all in and stacked the run – the very fact that Harsin’s offense was so myriad kept OSU in the cover 2. It sure as hell wasn’t fear of the pass.
Don’t get me wrong, our run game looks future scary for the rest of the year and performed very well in the OSU game – just not enough for us to offset OSU’s dynamite offense. Very simply Gundy and OSU would have had to go brain dead to lose this one.

Hey, I hate this losing shit, but I am realistic and it just wasn’t in the cards for us to win either game the last two weeks.

By-the-way, sorry if I sounded confrontrational on my previous post with the football playing crack.

Hook ’em!

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Bill - You mean Nick Saban?
I don’t see Nick Saban leaving Alabama for another college job.

Hey, this dude would abandon Bama in a NY second – ask LSU.

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Saban sounds happy. I believe his daughter is still in school at Bama.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

or Miami Dolphins

but I dont think he would leave except for an AD position perhaps. He is king in college football and apparently can do no wrong at this point, why leave?

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by dukeoforange on Oct 16, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn;t I read somewhere that UT was the #1 coaching job in the US - including the NFL?

Why woudn’t he leave?

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Off the subject question to Bill

Don’t you live in the Dallas area? Have you made an Aledo game yet?

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes to both

Yes I do live in Dallas, and I was at the Lake Travis – Aledo game. Article and scouting report here: http://www.burntorangenation.com/2011/9/12/2421774/texas-high-school-football-the-real-state-championship-lake-travis

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Gray from this planet?

Because this kid has otherworldly burst and vision – my God!

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random thoughts...

Saban and Mack are pretty much the same age, so I don’t think he would be a candidate. Besides in Alabama he’s the most popular man in a state dominated by college football. Texas (the state) has lots going on besides football.

Ash is right on schedule with the exception of protecting the football. I’m talking about fumbles, not interceptions. He has put it on the ground in each of the last two games. He has to learn to protect the ball when the pocket breaks down. Interceptions are part of playing quarterback, and the pass protection we have almost makes some inevitable.

Harsin seemed to call plays as though he had an experienced quarterback. I thought that more first down runs would have been a better strategy, but if this speeds the development of Ash into a competent qb, I’m all for it. We will probably lose at least two more games. The real key objectives for this year are to continue to improve while developing the young players, and to be eligible for a bowl so we get the extra practice while preparing for the bowl.

We’ll be better next year, but will still be young particularly on the offensive line where physical maturity is most important. Everyone needs to manage their expectations until 2013 when this team should be ready to roll.

by longhorn charlie on Oct 16, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Basically agree unilaterally

I think we’ll have a shot at competing for the conference title next year though mainly because of a very weak conference. Lot of players leaving after this season.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Landry Jones is a done deal to leave after this season. Weeden thank goodness will be gone.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Blackmon

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on Landry Jones

If Jones goes to the NFL, the conference will be wide open. If not, OU will be a heavy favorite.

by longhorn charlie on Oct 16, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boys and Girls - you are all so wrong!

Texas will be LOADED next year. Our systems will have a years experience behind them and our kids will show this. In addition, our COACHES will have a years experience behind them and will be ready for bear.
Our big weak spot, QB, will have an experienced player with a dynamite freshman back up. We will have our OL problems straightened out with EVALUATED and talented freshmen and immense talent coming in. We will have TWO exceptional running backs (one of whom appears to be talent special on a plane with VY). We will have, arguably, the best defensive backfield, not only in the conference but in the nation and with a superior linebacker core to augment them.

Furthermore, Ash will have learned more about reads and will actually start finding his receivers who will, also, be some of the best in the conference.

F..k OU and the bob Stoops they rode in on – there is going to be a new sheriff in town.

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Adrian Phillips

Has a minor shoulder injury. Should be fine for Kansas.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 10:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh thank god

Where did you see that?

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

OB

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh jeez

Shoulder dislocation problems. I know a friend who’s shoulder has popped out like 20 times—it’s just a continual problem that doesn’t go away, especially if you don’t rest it.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 16, 2011 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it sounds like something he’ll be dealing with most of career.

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by billfromlaketravis on Oct 16, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

generally has to do with those shoulder ligaments

once they stretch, they dont stretch back. gotta strengthen the muscle around it and hope for the best. being young helps and occasionally surgery, but you are rarely the same afterwards.

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by dukeoforange on Oct 17, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Phew!

A collective one from all Texas fans on that news.

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by kriess on Oct 16, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is good news about Phillips

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by Snide Aside on Oct 16, 2011 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it just me?

Or does Ash seem to have a footwork issue. Could also be cause of piss poor pass protection but he really seems to be on his back foot more times that not. I know he has the arm strength but at times he is just trying to ease the ball into the pocket.

Brown needs to get 25 carries against Kansas. Let’s see what he can do pounding the line for 4 quarters.

by shnsajax on Oct 16, 2011 10:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Mack getting a bit irritated with Manny's blitzing schemes?

I’m not sure where i saw it, it could have been on LHN or post game after the OU game but i saw Mack tell a reporter something like …" if the blitz ain’t working then we gotta stop doing it and keep players back…etc…"

I remember Urban criticized Manny’s all out blitz schemes to Mack during spring ball too.

After giving up now 3 long td runs… do you think Mack will start to reel in the leash with Manny or continue to let him do what he wants?

by jtdoes on Oct 17, 2011 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Thing is

Most of Manny’s blitzes don’t bring that many people. Most of them only bring 5, or even 4, because we are generally dropping a DE from somewhere. The biggest problem is that if they run to the side we drop the DE on we are screwed because there’s nobody there. Or if they pass to the spot vacated by the blitzers and the DE can’t get there quickly enough. It’s generally (not always) less about not having numbers and more about putting our players in uncomfortable positions (DEs having to cover and read the QB; DBs trying to run over OL en route to a sack).

When I say I think our blitz isn’t working, I think it’s more that we seem to have more success playing a base set and just letting our guys try to do what they do. At least in those cases we were collapsing the pocket some, while the blitzers are either going to get direct pressure or none at all (DBs and LBs are generally not going to blow back OL).

Just my thoughts on the fire zone.

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 17, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

TE

Bill, with all the talk about 2012, will we have a quality TE?

by Joseph P Stultz on Oct 17, 2011 12:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Likely not yet

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by GoHornsGo90 on Oct 17, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game commentators

said Ash could be another Tebow.

I’m sure the coaches don’t want him running all that much.
If he got hurt we would have only one QB and Fozzy.

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